Footballfirst Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I've just been told that Jason has been called up to the Scotland U21 squad. Well done to Jason, but I think it reflects poorly on recent managers that he hasn't been seen in the Hearts 1st team squad more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Well done young man. I might be way off on the players in that squad and how much game time they get, but is that not some jump from playing at Riccarton every other week to playing for Scotland Under 21's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Well done young man. I might be way off on the players in that squad and how much game time they get, but is that not some jump from playing at Riccarton every other week to playing for Scotland Under 21's? Good point GA Would be interesting to know how many of the U21 squad actually get first team game time at their clubs. Good Luck to the young lad by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawick Jambo Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Great news, another Scotland internationalist. Well done Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Good point GA Would be interesting to know how many of the U21 squad actually get first team game time at their clubs. Good Luck to the young lad by the way Here is the original squad. I'm guessing that someone has dropped out allowing Jason to be called up. Goalkeepers Grant Adam (Rangers) Marc McCallum (Dundee United) Mark Ridgers (Heart of Midlothian - on loan to East Fife) Defenders Callum Booth (Hibernian) Darren Cole (Rangers) Paul Hanlon (Hibernian) Ryan Jack (Aberdeen) Ross Perry (Rangers) Lewis Toshney (Celtic)Danny Wilson (Liverpool) Midfielders Scott Allan (Dundee United) Stuart Armstrong (Dundee United) Tom Cairney (Hull City) Liam Kelly (Kilmarnock) Liam Palmer (Sheffield Wednesday) Peter Pawlett (Aberdeen) David Wotherspoon (Hibernian) Gregg Wylde (Rangers) Forwards Leigh Griffiths (Wolverhampton Wanderers - on loan to Hibernian) Alexander MacDonald (Burnley) Jordan Rhodes (Huddersfield Town) Johnathon Russell (Dundee United) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapes Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Scotland facebook page earlier said that Tom Cairney and Liam Kelly were out due to injuries so i'm guessing that's why Jason has been called up. Well done Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Here is the original squad. I'm guessing that someone has dropped out allowing Jason to be called up. Goalkeepers Grant Adam (Rangers) Marc McCallum (Dundee United) Mark Ridgers (Heart of Midlothian - on loan to East Fife) Defenders Callum Booth (Hibernian) Darren Cole (Rangers) Paul Hanlon (Hibernian) Ryan Jack (Aberdeen) Ross Perry (Rangers) Lewis Toshney (Celtic)Danny Wilson (Liverpool) Midfielders Scott Allan (Dundee United) Stuart Armstrong (Dundee United) Tom Cairney (Hull City) Liam Kelly (Kilmarnock) Liam Palmer (Sheffield Wednesday) Peter Pawlett (Aberdeen) David Wotherspoon (Hibernian) Gregg Wylde (Rangers) Forwards Leigh Griffiths (Wolverhampton Wanderers - on loan to Hibernian) Alexander MacDonald (Burnley) Jordan Rhodes (Huddersfield Town) Johnathon Russell (Dundee United) Good for Jason, if it's accurate what you've been told. There are a lot of very good players in that squad... and David Wotherspoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Good for Jason, if it's accurate what you've been told. There are a lot of very good players in that squad... and David Wotherspoon It's a reliable source - John Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I've just been told that Jason has been called up to the Scotland U21 squad. Well done to Jason, but I think it reflects poorly on recent managers that he hasn't been seen in the Hearts 1st team squad more often. when I saw Cairney and Kelly had dropped out I did think that out of the under 19s midfielders he was the best and most likely to be called up. Great credit to him and I agree he should have had more game time for the first team then he has had. I do hope that Sergio has a plan to bring him into the first team as he will be a big player for us if given time and patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 IF and it's a big IF we as fans along with the 'boss' were willing to forego one season we could develop a very talented squad with some of the talent we have and will have very shortly. We could play Robinson, Holt, Ridgers, (Craig Thomson -- controversial I know), Prychynenko, McGowan, Novikovas, G Smith, Walker, D Smith along with a few others as well as a few of the younger first team squad. We may never know just how they may develop given the size of our first team squad as a whole. Would we be willing to take that risk for alonger term benefit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123kid Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 But when are we going to see this lad get some game time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hanlon and Wotherspoon have been utterly humpty every single time I have seen them play football... What the **** are they doing playing international football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboron Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 IF and it's a big IF we as fans along with the 'boss' were willing to forego one season we could develop a very talented squad with some of the talent we have and will have very shortly. We could play Robinson, Holt, Ridgers, (Craig Thomson -- controversial I know), Prychynenko, McGowan, Novikovas, G Smith, Walker, D Smith along with a few others as well as a few of the younger first team squad. We may never know just how they may develop given the size of our first team squad as a whole. Would we be willing to take that risk for alonger term benefit ? He should never again be associated with Hearts, he brought the club shame with his actions, CONTROVERSIAL is an understatement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Well done to Jason, but I think it reflects poorly on recent managers that he hasn't been seen in the Hearts 1st team squad more often. You can't mean Csaba if Jason is only 18 now. Paulo is just in the door so you can't be having a dig at him so you must mean JJ. Not many guys get their game for Hearts when they are 17/18 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Here is the original squad. I'm guessing that someone has dropped out allowing Jason to be called up. Goalkeepers Grant Adam (Rangers) Marc McCallum (Dundee United) Mark Ridgers (Heart of Midlothian - on loan to East Fife) Defenders Callum Booth (Hibernian) Darren Cole (Rangers) Paul Hanlon (Hibernian) Ryan Jack (Aberdeen) Ross Perry (Rangers) Lewis Toshney (Celtic)Danny Wilson (Liverpool) Midfielders Scott Allan (Dundee United) Stuart Armstrong (Dundee United) Tom Cairney (Hull City) Liam Kelly (Kilmarnock) Liam Palmer (Sheffield Wednesday) Peter Pawlett (Aberdeen) David Wotherspoon (Hibernian) Gregg Wylde (Rangers) Forwards Leigh Griffiths (Wolverhampton Wanderers - on loan to Hibernian) Alexander MacDonald (Burnley) Jordan Rhodes (Huddersfield Town) Johnathon Russell (Dundee United) Cheers FF Looking at that list it appears most of them have certainly played in their respective first teams. Like any young lad coming through the Tynie ranks will be good to see them perform in the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosr1985 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Delighted for the lad. Could this put Saturdays under 19 game in jeopardy ff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 IF and it's a big IF we as fans along with the 'boss' were willing to forego one season we could develop a very talented squad with some of the talent we have and will have very shortly. We could play Robinson, Holt, Ridgers, (Craig Thomson -- controversial I know), Prychynenko, McGowan, Novikovas, G Smith, Walker, D Smith along with a few others as well as a few of the younger first team squad. We may never know just how they may develop given the size of our first team squad as a whole. Would we be willing to take that risk for alonger term benefit ? Absolutely not. At any time over the last 10 years we have folk foaming over the latest crop of youngsters and you are lucky if one or two actually make a decent breakthrough. If they are good enough, they will find their way into the squads and starting 11's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hearts confirming what has already been said http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20111003/jason-called-up_2241384_2471540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross21 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Delighted for the lad. Could this put Saturdays under 19 game in jeopardy ff? Would be surprised given that there are no other Hibs/Hearts u19s in that squad. Not so sure if the Scotland 19s squad have any tho assume Hamilton, Smith & Tapping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Delighted for the lad. Could this put Saturdays under 19 game in jeopardy ff? I guess it could, but that would probably be John Murray's and Darren Murray's call. I know that Chris Tobin missed Saturday's game with a knee injury (not serious), so that may be a factor in any final decision. All the other teams U19 games have been called off this weekend, so it wouldn't surprise me if the "wee derby" was also called off. If it was postponed, then there is no guarantee that Jason would be available for the new date as he may have been called up to the 1st team squad by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 How has Jamie Walker been playing on his recent return from long term injury FF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 How has Jamie Walker been playing on his recent return from long term injury FF? He is getting better with each game. Initially he wasn't able to train between games, but there's been no reaction after the last couple so he is getting back to being able to take a full part agian. The physios have rightly been taking it slowly. He looks sharp and is looking for the ball which is always a good thing. The talent is definitely still there. I would guess that if he stays fit that he will end up as the U19s leading scorer at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He is getting better with each game. Initially he wasn't able to train between games, but there's been no reaction after the last couple so he is getting back to being able to take a full part agian. The physios have rightly been taking it slowly. He looks sharp and is looking for the ball which is always a good thing. The talent is definitely still there. I would guess that if he stays fit that he will end up as the U19s leading scorer at the end of the season. That's good to hear, certainly at U15 & U17 level Jamie was by far the best young player in that age group, Jason Holt has obviously progressed steadily as predicted and is now ahead of Jamie who obviously hasn't made much progress over the last 15 months or so due to long term injury but provided he can stay fit we have 2 tremendous prospects. Fingers crossed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 IF and it's a big IF we as fans along with the 'boss' were willing to forego one season we could develop a very talented squad with some of the talent we have and will have very shortly. We could play Robinson, Holt, Ridgers, (Craig Thomson -- controversial I know), Prychynenko, McGowan, Novikovas, G Smith, Walker, D Smith along with a few others as well as a few of the younger first team squad. We may never know just how they may develop given the size of our first team squad as a whole. Would we be willing to take that risk for alonger term benefit ? I reckon Ridgers will see more game time next season. Balogh, Kello and MacDonald all up at the end of their contracts. Can see Balogh going regardless, Kello I reckon will be looked at by a few clubs I reckon so he may go and Jamie Mac will probably be kept on as number 1 and Ridgers back up. At least I can see that happening. With the number of players at the end of their contracts it is a chance to let these guys have a go. Sign at least 4 or 5 good first team players and play these guys in and around them. I reckon G.Smith, Novi, McGowan, Ridgers and Robinson are assured a lot more game time in the coming few years, Holt and the rest will be on loan next year, probably in and around the 1st and 2nd division. Seems to have worked for McGowan, MacDonald, Ridgers and Smith so hoping it works for the others. Taking a risk like that is a big one if a club doesn't have a nucleus of established players in the side. By that I mean older players, with experience who can help play a role in player development, like Man Utd with guys like Giggs, Fletcher, Scholes, Ferdinand and to an extent Rooney around the place. I'd say we could try that as we've got Kyle, Skacel, Stevenson, Driver, Webster and Jonsson about the team. Just be a case of fitting the squad in around them. But I doubt you'll see that happening any time soon. But most of these guys should end up in the squad with the exodus of players I can see at the end of this season, just hope they live up to their expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahgrassyshoes Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 IF and it's a big IF we as fans along with the 'boss' were willing to forego one season we could develop a very talented squad with some of the talent we have and will have very shortly. We could play Robinson, Holt, Ridgers, (Craig Thomson -- controversial I know), Prychynenko, McGowan, Novikovas, G Smith, Walker, D Smith along with a few others as well as a few of the younger first team squad. We may never know just how they may develop given the size of our first team squad as a whole. Would we be willing to take that risk for alonger term benefit ? I don't think it is necessary to forego a whole season. I think we should be giving the youngsters time when we are 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 up with 20 mins to go. Give them trust and responsibility in small doses. This would still possibly cost us a few points over the course of the season, but nothing like foregoing a whole season. The fact is, we still need the revenue from finishing top 6, possible European games and cup runs etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribery's Face Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 How's temps not been called up for the 21's? When he's been playing well at first team and Jason plays u19's. I know he's a great player and well done too him, it just bemused me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 How's temps not been called up for the 21's? When he's been playing well at first team and Jason plays u19's. I know he's a great player and well done too him, it just bemused me! Temps is 22 so is ineligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heerts Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Aye welldone Jason Holt great wee player,good news for him and hearts they must be doing something right at the academy,although i reckon there should be more hearts players in the 21,s a bit dissapointing seeing that we have done okish over the last couple of seasons yet other clubs who have not done to well seem to get preffered strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Anyone know what that boy Tom Cairney is like in real life. All I know is that he develops into a playmaker extraordinaire on FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross21 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Anyone know what that boy Tom Cairney is like in real life. All I know is that he develops into a playmaker extraordinaire on FM. Pretty sure he made his debut at Hull whilst still in EPL & was wanted internationally by England. Quite a prospect by sounds of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Ell Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm sure Cairney scored against Everton when Hull were in the Prem. He certainly played against them at Goodison Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123kid Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Really getting frustrated about not seeing more of this kid. Im sure PS will be more willing to bring him through than a Scottish manager as he realises football isn't about brute force. But at 18 going on 19 you would really want to be seeing him getting some game time. The cream should be break through by then, especially as we play in a barely professional league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Jason missed out on selection for both the starting line up and the bench for tonight's game against Luxembourg. That would suggest that it is unlikely that he will feature in Monday night's game at home to Austria either. Scotland are 4-0 up after 70 minutes, with a hat-trick from Jordan Rhodes (English born Huddersfield striker) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Finished 5-1 to Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I think the pitch is likely to be the cause of any call off on saturday, The Heriot Watt ground staff are useless, they neither fork or roll the pitch. They are supposed to but get away with murder ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I think the pitch is likely to be the cause of any call off on saturday, The Heriot Watt ground staff are useless, they neither fork or roll the pitch. They are supposed to but get away with murder ! thats a good point as last friday i was playing there on the outdoor pitches and had to go a collect a ball from one of tghe grass pitches and it was almost waterlogged even though we had all that warm weather for days before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Well done young man. I might be way off on the players in that squad and how much game time they get, but is that not some jump from playing at Riccarton every other week to playing for Scotland Under 21's? It depends on the opposition they are up against I suppose. Looking at the squad though, it is absolutely honking and I think most of them will be out of their depth - far too many of them nowehere near their first teams and another example of how weak Scottish football is these days. We used to have good U21 squads with lots of players getting regulat first team action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 It depends on the opposition they are up against I suppose. Looking at the squad though, it is absolutely honking and I think most of them will be out of their depth - far too many of them nowehere near their first teams and another example of how weak Scottish football is these days. We used to have good U21 squads with lots of players getting regulat first team action. They were out of their depth right enough, they only won 5-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 It depends on the opposition they are up against I suppose. Looking at the squad though, it is absolutely honking and I think most of them will be out of their depth - far too many of them nowehere near their first teams and another example of how weak Scottish football is these days. We used to have good U21 squads with lots of players getting regulat first team action. Actually out of the whole 18 players named there, only 3 haven't had games for their club this season (Grant Adam, Danny Wilson and Darren Cole.) The rest have been first team starters or at least a few apperances off the bench so far this season. Ryan Jack and Peter Pawlett are regulars for Aberdeen. Paul Hanlon, Callum Booth and David Wotherspoon all have been regulars for Hibs this season, Stuart Armstrong, Johnny Russell and Scott Allan have played a number of games for Dundee United (with Allan producing a number of MotM performances,) Ross Perry has actually played for Rangers in a few games and has done well at the back, while Gregg Wylde has established himself as Rangers left winger, Liam Palmer has made 8 league apperances for Sheffield Wednesday so far in this league campaign, Jordon Rhodes has scored 4 goals in 8 league games so far, Alex MacDonald has made 4 league apperences for Burnley this season, Mark Ridgers has been number 1 while on loan at East Fife and Leigh Griffths has been making a few apperances since he moved on loan to Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dik Mar Van Nostrilboy Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Griffiths put something on facebook how he is sick of international football or something along those lines as I saw somebody post in the pub, could anybody shed any light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross21 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Griffiths put something on facebook how he is sick of international football or something along those lines as I saw somebody post in the pub, could anybody shed any light on this? Posted saying 'defo thinking about chucking International Football' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB1874 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Posted saying 'defo thinking about chucking International Football' He's an absolute tube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosr1985 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Booth and Wotherspoon are not in Hubs starting 11 at moment. Wonder if Jason will get dispensation to play on Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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