Boab Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The problem was there were no police on duty inside the ground. Something that the Club has now corrected for all matches. Agreed, T. We don't need that width if the Cat A games are whole Roseburn. That's another story....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I am really positive about the way everything is taking shape but I still wish we could have added another row or two of seats to keep the capacity over 20k WITH segregation. Surely at the end of the day the costs would not have been significantly higher and a round figure attendance looks better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Save it for Euro trip,won't be long.hopefully mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Like the look of the crest in monobloc. Would have really liked a replica of the original one from outside the old tollbooth too. TBH I am happy for there to be just one original 'Heart of Midlothian' mosaic on the Royal Mile. Our unique Club badge and wonderful name are woven into the very fabric of our great City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Except that one is nothing to do with the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Except that one is nothing to do with the club Except for the fact that our famous Club badge is based on it! It is also known as "the Heart of Midlothian" - a tenuous connection right enough. Edited September 20, 2017 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 TBH I am happy for there to be just one original 'Heart of Midlothian' mosaic on the Royal Mile. Our unique Club badge and wonderful name are woven into the very fabric of our great City. All fair enough. Just something I would have quite liked. No biggie. Maybe once we raise enough money to change the glass at a later date, we could do some more tarting up at the same time. Statues and more monoblock art for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 All fair enough. Just something I would have quite liked. No biggie. Maybe once we raise enough money to change the glass at a later date, we could do some more tarting up at the same time. Statues and more monoblock art for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Only half kidding. I'm sure you said that the reasons the architect went for that grey stripe look included the tight deadline for work starting, the amount of natural light, heating, and cost? Think you also said that the glass didn't cost anything near a million when someone suggested that. Seems like it might be worthwhile going for something a bit better looking in the future, once we have the funds and no time constraints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Except for the fact that our famous Club badge is based on it! It is also known as "the Heart of Midlothian" - a tenuous connection right enough. I am well aware of the history but the poster was saying the mosaic on the High Street should be the first and only club badge. It was never ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I am well aware of the history but the poster was saying the mosaic on the High Street should be the first and only club badge. It was never ours. Erm... I didn't really say that. I just said that I would have quite liked a reproduction of it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Attendance is dissapointing tbh, was wanting over 20k after segregation. Thought the club would have made sure that was the case as other posters have mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 Attendance is dissapointing tbh, was wanting over 20k after segregation. Thought the club would have made sure that was the case as other posters have mentioned. It will only be disappointing if we get sell outs every week and fans are missing out. Don't think we're there yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbrown76 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 More photos today Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Really starting to take shape now. One observation though (unless the angle is deceiving) is that if the police box is staying put several fans aren't going to be able to see the Gorgie Road end goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Really starting to take shape now. One observation though (unless the angle is deceiving) is that if the police box is staying put several fans aren't going to be able to see the Gorgie Road end goals. The plans show a police/surveillance room within the new stand. When the fit out is complete there is speculation the existing police box will be either removed or reduced in size. Edited September 20, 2017 by Bad Religion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Really starting to take shape now. One observation though (unless the angle is deceiving) is that if the police box is staying put several fans aren't going to be able to see the Gorgie Road end goals. Its being scaled back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I am well aware of the history but the poster was saying the mosaic on the High Street should be the first and only club badge. It was never ours. I think the poster has now corrected you. The point I was making is that our name and badge are woven into the historical fabric of Edinburgh - we ARE the team of Auld Reekie. Our famous badge is based on that historic landmark on the Royal Mile, and although our unique Club name came from a dance hall, it is shared by the above landmark and with a renowned novel by the incomparable Sir Walter Scott "Heart of Midlothian". Makes me proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Only half kidding. I'm sure you said that the reasons the architect went for that grey stripe look included the tight deadline for work starting, the amount of natural light, heating, and cost? Think you also said that the glass didn't cost anything near a million when someone suggested that. Seems like it might be worthwhile going for something a bit better looking in the future, once we have the funds and no time constraints. The system can be reglazed relatively easily, however there would be quite an expense for labour and access plant - not to mention more expensive glass. TBH I think the Club will have many more priorities to spend money on rather than replacing glass. I would hope that when the development is fully complete and the facade is viewed in the finished setting the vast majority of Hearts fans will be happy with it. Edited September 20, 2017 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think the poster has now corrected you. The point I was making is that our name and badge are woven into the historical fabric of Edinburgh - we ARE the team of Auld Reekie. Our famous badge is based on that historic landmark on the Royal Mile, and although our unique Club name came from a dance hall, it is shared by the above landmark and with a renowned novel by the incomparable Sir Walter Scott "Heart of Midlothian". Makes me proud. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The system can be reglazed relatively easily, however there would be quite an expense for labour and access plant - not to mention more expensive glass. I'm sure we could spend a small percentage of our Champions League money on it. Once our team can't be improved any further, we'll be on the look-out for little projects like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Its being scaled back... Not sure how you would do that given its structure and the rather large roof support through the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Not sure how you would do that given its structure and the rather large roof support through the middle. My email from Eric Hogg, 31/07/17: "...There is a plan to look at reducing the size (height and width) of the 'Police Box' to allow full unrestricted viewing but this will be in Phase 2. All efforts at the minute are on getting Phase 1 operational. For info however, the room is actually the central control room for the stadium - it happens to double as the police viewing box on match days. It houses the control of all of out video surveillance cameras, our security system for stadium, the fire control system, the turnstile systems, PA system for stadium, control of all TVs in all of the suites and a computer hub. So as you can see, knocking it down is not a straightforward option!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 My email from Eric Hogg, 31/07/17: "...There is a plan to look at reducing the size (height and width) of the 'Police Box' to allow full unrestricted viewing but this will be in Phase 2. All efforts at the minute are on getting Phase 1 operational. For info however, the room is actually the central control room for the stadium - it happens to double as the police viewing box on match days. It houses the control of all of out video surveillance cameras, our security system for stadium, the fire control system, the turnstile systems, PA system for stadium, control of all TVs in all of the suites and a computer hub. So as you can see, knocking it down is not a straightforward option!" Interesting, but I still can't think how you could shrink it and keep it useable. Roll on phase 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 My email from Eric Hogg, 31/07/17: "...There is a plan to look at reducing the size (height and width) of the 'Police Box' to allow full unrestricted viewing but this will be in Phase 2. All efforts at the minute are on getting Phase 1 operational. For info however, the room is actually the central control room for the stadium - it happens to double as the police viewing box on match days. It houses the control of all of out video surveillance cameras, our security system for stadium, the fire control system, the turnstile systems, PA system for stadium, control of all TVs in all of the suites and a computer hub. So as you can see, knocking it down is not a straightforward option!" Doesn't fill me with confidence that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Doesn't fill me with confidence that statement. Confidence about what? It will go - but in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Doesn't fill me with confidence that statement. I think they'll scale it back, but he was just explaining that there's more to it than just swinging a sledgehammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think they'll scale it back, but he was just explaining that there's more to it than just swinging a sledgehammer.Yeah seemed a bit coy BB ,hopefully as we progress it becomes more of a priority as the more important things are completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm sure we could spend a small percentage of our Champions League money on it. Once our team can't be improved any further, we'll be on the look-out for little projects like this.Do you think our club would be stupid enough to sanction unnecessary glass replacement because some dopey fans fancied a change, bearing in mind the club will be owned by the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Attendance is dissapointing tbh, was wanting over 20k after segregation. Thought the club would have made sure that was the case as other posters have mentioned. Considering we are spending a lot of money to improve the capacity as far as possible within the constraints placed upon the club, your complaint is specious and comes across as just a means to justify yet another dig at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think they'll scale it back, but he was just explaining that there's more to it than just swinging a sledgehammer. It will happen in "phase 2 works" - it has to, as right now the last 4 row of seats do not have view of the Gorgie Road goals. I believe that equates to around 200 seats that currently are unsaleable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetboy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Unrelated point but would people like to see the removal of the hearts badge in the seat arrangements? all maroon seating would look perfect imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Unrelated point but would people like to see the removal of the hearts badge in the seat arrangements? all maroon seating would look perfect imo. No I like the badges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Unrelated point but would people like to see the removal of the hearts badge in the seat arrangements? all maroon seating would look perfect imo. Starting a petition to 'save the 8-bit crests'. To be honest they do look fairly pish. Cant be seen though as we actually sell our tickets unlike the team we unfortunately have to share our city with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidthebaw Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Unrelated point but would people like to see the removal of the hearts badge in the seat arrangements? all maroon seating would look perfect imo. Tbh and it is a minor one.... Get the old faded seats replaced would suit me. But thats another phase anyway, i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbrown76 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 It will happen in "phase 2 works" - it has to, as right now the last 4 row of seats do not have view of the Gorgie Road goals. I believe that equates to around 200 seats that currently are unsaleable. Thanks to yourself and others who have helped with my question regarding Police Box and restricted viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 It will happen in "phase 2 works" - it has to, as right now the last 4 row of seats do not have view of the Gorgie Road goals. I believe that equates to around 200 seats that currently are unsaleable.Lower steelwork begins on Monday a believe so be interesting to see if they start doing something then with police box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 No I like the badgesPretty certain I'm correct in saying seats in new stand will be all maroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernardbresslawsarmchair Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Lower steelwork begins on Monday a believe so be interesting to see if they start doing something then with police box Tbh and it is a minor one.... Get the old faded seats replaced would suit me. But thats another phase anyway, i believe. On the subject of next projects i see shrewsbury are installing safe standing ?62,500 for 574 seats i reckon we could do the bottom of the gorgie for about ?200,000 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Lower steelwork begins on Monday a believe so be interesting to see if they start doing something then with police box No works planned on the police box until the stand is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 No works planned on the police box until the stand is complete.That being case it probably be next summer then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbrown76 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 It will happen in "phase 2 works" - it has to, as right now the last 4 row of seats do not have view of the Gorgie Road goals. I believe that equates to around 200 seats that currently are unsaleable. Following your reply I returned to the photo and something else is now bothering me. The Police Box if it survives in its current form will mean the lower tier cannot be built as far along as the upper tier as the Police Box will be in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Following your reply I returned to the photo and something else is now bothering me. The Police Box if it survives in its current form will mean the lower tier cannot be built as far along as the upper tier as the Police Box will be in the way.Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 No works planned on the police box until the stand is complete. Someone told me December. Apparently Daltons have already been in having a look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 No works planned on the police box until the stand is complete. So do you think that the first few games in the new stand will see some ST holders with restricted view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Rothstein Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On the subject of next projects i see shrewsbury are installing safe standing ?62,500 for 574 seats i reckon we could do the bottom of the gorgie for about ?200,000 ? Seems a terrible use of ?200k to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbrown76 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Correct Surely were not going to build around the Police Box shortly and then remove the Police Box a few months later!!!! That would look terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Surely were not going to build around the Police Box shortly and then remove the Police Box a few months later!!!! That would look terrible. Lower steelwork begins on Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidthebaw Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On the subject of next projects i see shrewsbury are installing safe standing ?62,500 for 574 seats i reckon we could do the bottom of the gorgie for about ?200,000 ? Would love standing. I feel higher up would be better for atmosphere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 So do you think that the first few games in the new stand will see some ST holders with restricted view? I would doubt the Club are selling these particular seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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