Jammy T Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Notwithstanding the fact that Hibs fans behaved like assholes... It's amusing as feck to see the bleating greeting Rangers persecution complex cranking up into overdrive. Poor wee lambs. They can't believe Hibs aren't getting slaughtered. They are aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 To say they were too scared to come out for their losers medals is childish. They appear to have used the crazy behaviour of the Hibs thugs to avoid being in the spot light as a team who threw a cup final away. The police had the place under control. They haven't got any better at being gracious in defeat since the reincarnation. On yesterday's evidence, they better get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Can't stand Rangers. Worse than septic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 To say they were too scared to come out for their losers medals is childish. They appear to have used the crazy behaviour of the Hibs thugs to avoid being in the spot light as a team who threw a cup final away. The police had the place under control. They haven't got any better at being gracious in defeat since the reincarnation. On yesterday's evidence, they better get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I think they are spot on. Imagine if Hibs had won in 2012 and done that to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Rangers are correct in that there are a lot of people who should be making statements re the invasion that are not/have been silent. They should have countered it with having a go at the songs/flares their own fans contributed to the day. I still think Scottish Football should be happy that for the most part the Rangers fans showed restraint or were unaware that their players were being attacked. Nothing wrong with Rangers asking questions tbh as long as they realise questions need to be answered by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Can't stand Rangers. Worse than septic I struggle to seperate the both of them. Two cheeks of the same erse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Rangers are in the right here no matter what we think of their fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Can't stand either off them but I think that's a great statement from Rangers tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy1874 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Absolutely incredible that more folk aren't condemning outright the disgraceful behaviour of these thugs - utter scum. That Hibs haven't condemned it outright says everything about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sturgeon letting herself and country down by praising Hibs but not condemning violence at all. Could this be because her husband is one of the vermin himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 They'd have a point if they had condemned their own fans first for fighting, running on the pitch, signing secterian songs and battering their wives. But they don't so they can shut the **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfWestLothian Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Can't stand either off them but I think that's a great statement from Rangers tbh. I thought the same. If Hibs fans had attacked our players I would expect our club to respond the same way. Hibs are surely looking at a huge fine coming their way? Rangers however should be encouraging their own fans to report anyone they know who went onto the pitch to fight. These scenes are embarrassing for our game, to think only a couple of years ago Jim Murphy was asking why can't Scottish football fans get a drink at the game!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Jarman Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 They've gone nuclear. It's hilarious. As far as I've seen, everyone (barring Petrie with his wishy washy pish) has condemned Hibs fans for attacking Rangers players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 They'd have a point if they had condemned their own fans first for fighting, running on the pitch, signing secterian songs and battering their wives. But they don't so they can shut the **** up. Where did they batter their wives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. I'd say they are trying to prejudice the investigation tbh, Hibs fans definitely did things which go above and beyond unacceptable but that statement is nothing more than a PR exercise. Clearly someone at rangers fancies being the SFA VP. No mention of the audible sectarian singing and they are seriously playing down the amount of rangers fans on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Well, well I think everybody has condemned the actions of the Hibs support apart from Petrie, however, the actions of a significant number of Sevco supporters is up there with that of the vermin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Where did they batter their wives?Usually after an old firm game. Do pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Usually after an old firm game. Do pay attention. Evidence please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 And trying to kidnap bairns. Almost forgot about that. Not a peep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Evidence please http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10324172/Domestic-violence-almost-doubles-during-Old-Firm-matches.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 And trying to kidnap bairns. Almost forgot about that. Not a peep. Didn't you enjoy your celebrations today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 That statement looks like the first draft of an angry email that you write when you are absolutely furious. But then if you are a sensible person you go for a cuppa, calm down and edit it before hitting send. For once they actually were the less guilty in something but the ranting tone of entitlement is pathetic. Arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10324172/Domestic-violence-almost-doubles-during-Old-Firm-matches.html Wow amazing stats. What's the % from each team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Didn't you enjoy your celebrations today?I'm a hibby cause I detest the huns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcap Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Wow amazing stats. What's the % from each team? Since I'm a hibby you MUST be a hun for sticking up for them. Going be your weird logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. Really. This is the people that purport to be the same club who's fans wrecked Manchester and had the European Cup Winners Cup presented in a dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I'm a hibby cause I detest the huns? No cos I said you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Since I'm a hibby you MUST be a hun for sticking up for them. Going be your weird logic. I'm sticking up for the team in this situation that I feel are the innocent ones. The whole thing is about what happened yesterday. You're the one dragging up historical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Rangers are in the right here no matter what we think of their fansYes but some on here can't accept that. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noidletalk81 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 And trying to kidnap bairns. Almost forgot about that. Not a peep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dm4o-SmLT8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The problem with that statement is they don't condemn their own fans. The "they were provoked" is not a defence and that passage undermines the overall effectiveness of the statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Where did they batter their wives?I assume this refers to Gascoigne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I assume this refers to Gascoigne. No he's on about hospital cases of domestic violence when the old firm meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockmac Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Totally agree with Rangers stance on this, their statement doesn't miss anyone. Imagine how we would feel if they attacked our players and fans, we would feel exactly the same as them. Would Hearts fans have stood back watching Hearts players and staff being attacked if in the same circumstances? In fact I'm a bit surprised that there wasn't more Rangers fans involved, considering for a period of time, the Police had lost control to protect the Rangers players and staff. Blame for this lies totally with the Hibs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Totally agree with Rangers stance on this, their statement doesn't miss anyone. Imagine how we would feel if they attacked our players and fans, we would feel exactly the same as them. Would Hearts fans have stood back watching Hearts players and staff being attacked if in the same circumstances? In fact I'm a bit surprised that there wasn't more Rangers fans involved, considering for a period of time, the Police had lost control to protect the Rangers players and staff. Blame for this lies totally with the Hibs fans. I actually don't think the Rangers fans realised their players were subject to attacks or I believe a lot more of them would have made their way on to confront the hibs fans and that's where I think this whole thing would have got really messy and Petrie et all would have nowhere to hide then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. https://youtu.be/3J-zqtgw-5E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dm4o-SmLT8 Why was that kid even there. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was moving the kid out the way, but looks a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 https://www.change.org/p/scottish-football-association-ban-hibernian-fc-from-european-competition-and-scottish-competition-season-2016-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Must say I'm astonished that Hibs haven't issued a statement condeming the behaviour and apologising. Proabably self-protection. Scared to admit liability. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. It's an horrendous statement. Poor wee Rangers indeed. Vlad would be proud no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. Poorly constructed response - that last sentence , Christ. The personal attacks. Sevco just can't help themselves. Any chance to have a go at the SFA & Petrie . " Rangers fully expects ...." just reeks of arrogance and is totally unnecessary. It's an inflammatory response. It's plain to see who the guilty parties are and this statement just fans the flames. All we need now is for the SFA to flame the Hibs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 That statement looks like the first draft of an angry email that you write when you are absolutely furious. But then if you are a sensible person you go for a cuppa, calm down and edit it before hitting send. For once they actually were the less guilty in something but the ranting tone of entitlement is pathetic. Arseholes. Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincon Premier Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sevco are getting worse than Celtic for being victims. No mention from them about the vile songs, flares and why their fans invaded the pitch after a loss. Hibs fans I can understand after 114 years over excitement does take hold, but why invade after a defeat. Personally think it's possible it was Sevco fans who attacked their own players after such an insipid display. Before casting judgement, I will wait until those videos showing the assaults and those who perpetrated them to be identified before pointing the finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I think they are spot on. Imagine if Hibs had won in 2012 and done that to usMake no mistake it would have happened then. The beasting they got that day seems even more satisfying in hindsight. Scum of the earth. Decent people among them. Maybe so but guilt by association when it happens in such enormous numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sevco are getting worse than Celtic for being victims. No mention from them about the vile songs, flares and why their fans invaded the pitch after a loss. Hibs fans I can understand after 114 years over excitement does take hold, but why invade after a defeat. Personally think it's possible it was Sevco fans who attacked their own players after such an insipid display. Before casting judgement, I will wait until those videos showing the assaults and those who perpetrated them to be identified before pointing the finger. Did they apologise for the siege we suffered at Ibrox? The statement is quite correct but with an extremely short memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sevco are getting worse than Celtic for being victims. No mention from them about the vile songs, flares and why their fans invaded the pitch after a loss. Hibs fans I can understand after 114 years over excitement does take hold, but why invade after a defeat. Personally think it's possible it was Sevco fans who attacked their own players after such an insipid display. Before casting judgement, I will wait until those videos showing the assaults and those who perpetrated them to be identified before pointing the finger. Ha ha ha. You're at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Very good statement from Rangers, Okay they are not totally innocent here but they are right to call out Hibs and Petrie aswell as the media for not acknowledging anything. Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian?s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday?s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club?s supporters. There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday?s final. No matter how many times Hibernian?s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday?s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked. It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA?s security procedures failed when Hibernian?s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers? disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club. We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club?s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed. These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium ? all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club?s supporters. It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian?s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives. Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie?s comments to be ?balanced? and others speak of a ?minority? of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans? reaction. We will not endure this insult. So, let everyone be clear on one thing ? Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated. To be fair they have got a valid point, just wish they added in that their own supporters song book and use of smoke bombs was unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Dreadful statement that has all the bombast and lack of introspection that's so typical of the likely author - Jim Traynor. Let the investigation take place and the facts be determined. Hibs haven't anywhere to hide and they know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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