Bunny Munro Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 13/04/2024 at 01:45, Pasquale for King said: You are right obviously but we have to get the free kicks in the first place, we don’t usually get many opportunities for Kingsley now so the two new guys are unlikely to prosper unfortunately. The big issue is we don't have any midfielders who can score from outside the box. Teams know if they mark Shankland they'll probably be safe as our midfielders will try and find him. We need a Walker/Stevenson/Rudi type that makes the CBs have to push up to mark them when they get within 25 yards, this opens up space in the box and leads to fouls on the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: Could become our very own Declan Rice. Rice was once regarded as a CB... Doesn't look dynamic or agile enough to me for that kind of role. Could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Gordons left glove said: Never knew anything about his contract situation or his wages, just thought it would be a brilliant signing. Thanks for letting me know though 👍 I'm sure he'd be a fantastic signing aye. Would absolutely love to have him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: The big issue is we don't have any midfielders who can score from outside the box. Teams know if they mark Shankland they'll probably be safe as our midfielders will try and find him. We need a Walker/Stevenson/Rudi type that makes the CBs have to push up to mark them when they get within 25 yards, this opens up space in the box and leads to fouls on the edge. You mean like Dhanda and Spittal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Bunny Munro said: The big issue is we don't have any midfielders who can score from outside the box. Teams know if they mark Shankland they'll probably be safe as our midfielders will try and find him. We need a Walker/Stevenson/Rudi type that makes the CBs have to push up to mark them when they get within 25 yards, this opens up space in the box and leads to fouls on the edge. You mean like this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, Chimp said: You mean like Dhanda and Spittal? 😂👆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 46 minutes ago, Chimp said: You mean like Dhanda and Spittal? Or Neuwenhof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Why are the media and even other managers so desperate for good players to give to the OF? https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/missed-lawrence-shankland-rangers-transfer-32584802 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Bunny Munro said: The big issue is we don't have any midfielders who can score from outside the box. Teams know if they mark Shankland they'll probably be safe as our midfielders will try and find him. We need a Walker/Stevenson/Rudi type that makes the CBs have to push up to mark them when they get within 25 yards, this opens up space in the box and leads to fouls on the edge. Exactly why Dhanda and Spittal have been signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) On 13/04/2024 at 00:31, Bongo 1874 said: Humphrys fully fit and mindset correct would be an asset to us,different forward option all together from Shankland. Brophy would be my Boyce replacement. Bair would replace Shankland. Humphrys Is an extra forward. If Shankland goes. Bair,Humphrys, Brophy,Tagawa, Get the young ones like Kirk,and Wilson loaned out. Brophy can't get a game at county. Bair is no where near as good as Shankland. Humphrys would add nothing If they 4 are our forward options next season we'd have taken a huge step backwards. Edited April 15 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Trophy can't get a game at Killie. Bair is no where near as good as Shankland. Humphrys would add nothing If they 4 are our forward options next season we'd have taken a huge step backwards. If Brophy is trying to get a game at Killie then he has big problems. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: If Brophy is trying to get a game at Killie then he has big problems. 😄 St mirren... Ross county.... Edited April 15 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Trophy can't get a game at Killie. Bair is no where near as good as Shankland. Humphrys would add nothing If they 4 are our forward options next season we'd have taken a huge step backwards. did Naismith not get rid of Humphrys when he first came in? Seem to remember him going back down the road same time as Snodgrass left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Bazzas right boot said: St mirren... Eamonn Brophy (born 10 March 1996) is a Scottish professional footballer who plays for Ross County, as a striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, HopeDiouf said: did Naismith not get rid of Humphrys when he first came in? Seem to remember him going back down the road same time as Snodgrass left? He did, Humphrys I'm assuming would also command a fairly large wage. He liked a dig, but added very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, davemclaren said: Eamonn Brophy (born 10 March 1996) is a Scottish professional footballer who plays for Ross County, as a striker. Ross county? Big ejjit isn't playing, whoever he's at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Ross county? Big ejjit isn't playing, whoever he's at! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Chimp said: Doesn't look dynamic or agile enough to me for that kind of role. Could be wrong though He's a lot more mobile than Haring is/was. Granted Haring had some more experience when he played the role for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 11 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: did Naismith not get rid of Humphrys when he first came in? Seem to remember him going back down the road same time as Snodgrass left? They said he left due to wages not being paid at that time at Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 21 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Brophy can't get a game at county. Bair is no where near as good as Shankland. Humphrys would add nothing If they 4 are our forward options next season we'd have taken a huge step backwards. Huge? Gargantuan, you mean. Brophy can't even get on the pitch ahead of Simon Murray ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 11 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Ross county? Big ejjit isn't playing, whoever he's at! He’s 5 foot 9” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: He's a lot more mobile than Haring is/was. Granted Haring had some more experience when he played the role for us. To be fair when Haring first arrived he was mobile. Used to bomb up and down the park defending then contributing with goals. Neilson just looks to have the perfect build for CB rather than DM but would be interesting to see if he's used there and how he gets on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 With those mentioning they'd like to see us go for Bair, I'd be cautious he may just be a one season wonder. Never been prolific before and did nothing at St Johnstone previously so I'd probably like to see how he gets on next season. His contract is up next summer so could potentially get him on a free if he impresses again. I certainly wouldn't be paying money for him just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 22 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said: He’s 5 foot 9” He's still a big ejjit. You can be a small or average person in height and be a big ejjit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 24 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Huge? Gargantuan, you mean. Brophy can't even get on the pitch ahead of Simon Murray ffs! Imagine if we binned Boycey and Shankland, got a fee for Shankland and went with Bair, Brophy and Humphrys as opshuns next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, HopeDiouf said: did Naismith not get rid of Humphrys when he first came in? Seem to remember him going back down the road same time as Snodgrass left? There was something about needing to sort out his situation at Wigan. Might not have been entirely about not rating him. Also the squad has developed so could be seen as more of an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Bunny Munro said: The big issue is we don't have any midfielders who can score from outside the box. Teams know if they mark Shankland they'll probably be safe as our midfielders will try and find him. We need a Walker/Stevenson/Rudi type that makes the CBs have to push up to mark them when they get within 25 yards, this opens up space in the box and leads to fouls on the edge. That is an issue, but can easily be fixed by playing a quick striker ahead of Shankland to stretch teams and create space for him to shoot from outside the box. We would then get more fouls around that area as CBs and DMs struggle to cover that space, the way we play at the moment wont doesn’t create any space in between the opposition’s defence and midfield no matter who plays where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: There was something about needing to sort out his situation at Wigan. Might not have been entirely about not rating him. Also the squad has developed so could be seen as more of an asset. I think that was just an excuse, the same situation had existed all season so I’m not sure what being there in person was going to do to help the owners pay the players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 54 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Huge? Gargantuan, you mean. Brophy can't even get on the pitch ahead of Simon Murray ffs! He’s having a great season, could do a job 😜?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, Pasquale for King said: I think that was just an excuse, the same situation had existed all season so I’m not sure what being there in person was going to do to help the owners pay the players? I think it's an excuse too. I've seen it used 4 or 5 times now. As you say what's him going back down the road going to do? Naismith emptied him, the same way he emptied Snodgrass, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: You mean like this guy? Hes not going to be facing that GK anymore though 😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I think it's an excuse too. I've seen it used 4 or 5 times now. As you say what's him going back down the road going to do? Naismith emptied him, the same way he emptied Snodgrass, end of. Exactly. How was he going to force a Hong Kong based owner to pay them when the rest of the staff there hadn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: Brophy can't get a game at county. Bair is no where near as good as Shankland. Humphrys would add nothing If they 4 are our forward options next season we'd have taken a huge step backwards. Brophy is back up and has 5 goals contributions, In 21 games for county. Bair has 17 goal contributions in 33 games for well. Humphrys has 13 goals contributions for Wigan,and I'm sure he scored two against us in a friendly. According to you it doesn't get better than Bob ? But we are about to smash his points record, with Celtic&Rangers in the same league. And let's be honest,Naismith has been nowhere near backed as much as Neilson or Levein. Leave this next level to me,because according to you I'm deluded and we can't do it,but it's taken 1 full season for a rookie manager to prove me right 🤔. Ohh and to let you know that manager you say is shite 😉 he's about to win the League 😉 Fly the Flag,Fly the Flag!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 A bit of revisionism here regarding Humphrys who more than did his bit whislt at the club and was almost universally popular among the support. I'd prefer we looked forward instead of to past players though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Homme said: A bit of revisionism here regarding Humphrys who more than did his bit whislt at the club and was almost universally popular among the support. I'd prefer we looked forward instead of to past players though. Humphrys offers value for money,pre contract available player. We aren't getting Millions and Millions to spend,our recruitment needs to be smart. Edited April 15 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Homme said: A bit of revisionism here regarding Humphrys who more than did his bit whislt at the club and was almost universally popular among the support. I'd prefer we looked forward instead of to past players though. Totally agree. He was unfortunate with that foot injury he got and if it wasn't for that he would have contributed even more. Was rapid, powerful and skilful with a decent eye for goal. Not the finished article but certainly did well for us and offered us something completely different. I think people have selective memory and are quick to forget that, and only remember him for the last month or so at the club. The way he went back to Wigan left a bad taste in our mouths understandably. His attitude may be the only thing lacking which is probably the only reason I wouldn't like to see him return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Normally, I'm against signing "squad players", but if Shankland stays we'll struggle to get anyone close to his level to compete for his spot. So, we're looking for someone who can cover when Shanks is out, or who can come on for the last 20 mins when needed. Humphrys could do that job and would be an upgrade on Tagawa, imo. (Boyce might be the man for that for next season, but I don't think we should count on it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, Pingu said: Normally, I'm against signing "squad players", but if Shankland stays we'll struggle to get anyone close to his level to compete for his spot. So, we're looking for someone who can cover when Shanks is out, or who can come on for the last 20 mins when needed. Humphrys could do that job and would be an upgrade on Tagawa, imo. (Boyce might be the man for that for next season, but I don't think we should count on it.) Thanks 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valois No1 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I quite liked Humphries. Quite direct and liked a dig. Dunno why but hit the feeling he wasn’t liked in the changing room but that could be nonsense. I would probably prefer to look elsewhere if I’m honest. As many have said a new CB and RB are a must and get the feeling that with dhanda and Spittal coupled with McKay (if fit) we will see more goals from midfield and they will help the strikers score a good level of goals if shanks leave. We need to get a striker that will score a minimum of say 15 spfl goals which would be roughly in the region of what De vries, Mcswegan and I think Velika scored. Obviously more than that is most welcome but a good return would be 15 ish min Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 14 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: I think that’s his position. He’s not a CB imo. Positionally struggles imo. CDM Same with Toby imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Humphrys will not be coming to us. We did not like his attitude and was bit of a fallout. If we keep shankland, would expect another vargas type signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pingu said: Normally, I'm against signing "squad players", but if Shankland stays we'll struggle to get anyone close to his level to compete for his spot. So, we're looking for someone who can cover when Shanks is out, or who can come on for the last 20 mins when needed. Humphrys could do that job and would be an upgrade on Tagawa, imo. (Boyce might be the man for that for next season, but I don't think we should count on it.) I doubt if Humphreys would be happy playing second fiddle to Shankland,we would need to pay him top dollar too, and yes dont count on Boyce. Edited April 15 by Pasquale for King Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: I doubt if Humphreys would be happy playing second fiddle to Shankland, and yes dont count on Boyce. Squad rotation, he could play just infront of Shankland. I personally would go with four Strikers next season. We pick up many injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Right. I like Simon Murray . There said it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Hector Riva said: Right. I like Simon Murray . There said it . You’ve still got time to edit it. We can’t just sign all the players at lesser clubs who have had a good season. He’s too old and isn’t good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 54 minutes ago, Homme said: A bit of revisionism here regarding Humphrys who more than did his bit whislt at the club and was almost universally popular among the support. I'd prefer we looked forward instead of to past players though. I think the revisionism is folks pretending Naisy didn't send him packing just a year ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Squad rotation, he could play just infront of Shankland. I personally would go with four Strikers next season. We pick up many injuries. He could play there, not that it really worked last time. The manager is unlikely to do that and play Dhanda/McKay/Spittal/Vargas though. Four strikers absolutely, especially with Boyce injured all the time, thats what we have this season. Humphreys isn’t coming back here, we can’t afford him, he had “a bad loan” last time and the manager couldn’t wait to get rid of him. Lets talk about guys that are able to wait on a chance to shine or replace Shankland if he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GinRummy said: You’ve still got time to edit it. We can’t just sign all the players at lesser clubs who have had a good season. Agreed it's like guys marrying their very first girlfriends, might or might not work out but they looked good and did the business for a year beforehand🤣🤣 Edited April 15 by joondalupjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Hector Riva said: Right. I like Simon Murray . There said it . Beat you to it hours ago 😆, 32 and would do a job for a lot of teams, not us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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