RustyRightPeg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Sounds like your humble opinion rather than fact. Is that right? Jimmy summed it up for me. I'll flip it, why are you so convinced Clark's leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Sounds like your humble opinion rather than fact. Is that right? Just about everything I’ve ever posted on here is my humble opinion. For the facts on Clark leaving you’d have to ask Clark Naismith or Savage. What’s your humble opinion on Clark staying or leaving ? Anyway, most of what I said was factual Edited May 6 by JimmyCant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 14 hours ago, iainmac said: Never heard of this guy, haven't seen him play but came across his stats on Twitter. 21 year old CDM with impressive numbers. I have heard of him, as he's a distant relative! Only really watched him against us and I think the other game I watched of theirs was maybe Dundee Utd? Can't say he stood out but those are some unreal stats so he's got to be worth a look. Edited May 6 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 29 minutes ago, JamboAl said: It still shows that SN was unwilling to go with one goalie plus a rookie which might be the case if Clark leaves. Yes, which is why I said I suspect we'll bring in another experienced keeper if Clark leaves! What I would say is that I think the level of keeper we'd bring in (if Clark does leave) would probably tell us a lot about how Stone is now rated within the club. I'd say he's at the age now where he has to be considered ready to play in our first team if called upon, or he's never going to be. And I don't necessarily mean he should be able to establish himself as first choice ahead of Gordon, but he needs to be seen as ready to be played if Gordon gets injured, suspended, or just has a shocker of a form slump. If we were to sign another McGovern type, i.e. very experienced but clearly a backup with absolutely no chance of actually pushing to be first choice, I'd say it'd tell us that Stone is still highly rated and will at least be 2nd keeper to Gordon and hopefully push him for 1st choice. If, however, we sign another Clark level keeper, that's obviously coming in to be, or challenge for, 1st choice, I'd say that indicates that Stone is no longer seen as likely to reach the level we need, in which case he may well move on permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 The Zander Clarke chat sums up why threads like this can become crazy. At this moment in time I'd be amazed if Hearts or Clarke were wanting a move. However say an English Championship club offers £3.5m in the summer.... he'll be off. That doesn't mean the people who are saying he'll be off were correct its just the situation has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Harrison Burrows would be a like for like replacement for Cochrane. Can also fill in, in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: We can compete much better locally now (which is why we’re attracting good players from our own league) but we’re blown out the water if any club from the top 3 leagues in England take an interest yeah agree to an extent Jimmy , but we need to consider that the talent available locally isn’t what it was. Most of the talent is snaffled up well before they feature in the SPFL or lower leagues. Marc Leonard is a great example, every team in Scotland has been stripped of talent to some extent if Davie Weir, Neil McCann or Colin Cameron we’re breaking through today they’d already be in England. If course there are exception Players that good simply wouldn’t be at Raith, Dundee or Falkirk for us to sign. we can compete better, for a lower quality of player. Edited May 6 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 13 minutes ago, Daveandal said: The Zander Clarke chat sums up why threads like this can become crazy. At this moment in time I'd be amazed if Hearts or Clarke were wanting a move. However say an English Championship club offers £3.5m in the summer.... he'll be off. That doesn't mean the people who are saying he'll be off were correct its just the situation has changed. Fair point, but we’ve a couple of players you just wouldn’t sell under any circumstances UNLESS we had a replacement ready on a done deal. Clark, Shankland, Kent, maybe a couple of others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 49 minutes ago, Rods said: Maybe I am just dreaming but I feel we have 05 vlad level windows coming in the near future ( Skacel, Bednars etc) Well we ain't going to be signing (recent) Champions League and European Championships winning players, that's for sure! Some of these guys were reportedly on around £8k per week, which adjusted for football wage inflation since then probably equates to around £20-25k per week these days. Gordon was widely reported to have been given a £12k per week basic with scope for another £6k in bonuses! We won't be going anywhere near the equivalent wages now. Having said that, I do think we'll see at least one or two signings each year from now on that are at a level where we can be genuinely confident that they're likely to prove to be among the best players in the squad, rather than just guys that at best are likely to bring weaker areas of the squad up to the level the other areas are already at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 48 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: ha ha . Admire the optimism but I’m a negative nel re Scottish football mate.. I think our competitive spending power is massively reduced despite ourselves being wealthier than we’ve ever been. Football inflation has got away from us God only knows what a peak McCann, Cameron or Davie Weir would cost. The thing is, I don't think we really signed them at their peaks, I think we managed to get them at a point where they'd shown a lot of potential, but I don't think they peaked until they were with us (or maybe after). I think we're probably now in a position financially where we could go for at least one or two of that sort of calibre player at that stage of their careers again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Daveandal said: The Zander Clarke chat sums up why threads like this can become crazy. At this moment in time I'd be amazed if Hearts or Clarke were wanting a move. However say an English Championship club offers £3.5m in the summer.... he'll be off. That doesn't mean the people who are saying he'll be off were correct its just the situation has changed. The chat is that celtic have decided they want him with Hart retiring. To be honest, I'd be very surprised if there's any truth in them being interested, but if they were after him, I'd also be very surprised if he didn't want to go to them, and I'd also be surprised if we weren't willing to accept a substantial offer. I don't actually think Clark is particularly great, I think he's a good keeper by Scottish football standards but not outstanding, and I don't think it would be all that difficult to find someone else at a similar level. He's definitely nowhere near the calibre of a younger CG, Antti Niemi, or even Marian Kello IMO. I actually think if we really want to progress as a team, we need to be looking to try to get a better keeper than Clark anyway, whether we sign one or if Stone or McFarlane are capable of developing to that standard relatively soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: Jimmy summed it up for me. I'll flip it, why are you so convinced Clark's leaving? I'm not convinced - because I didn't say he was leaving. I said IF he leaves which was in the follow-up to a poster suggesting Celtic might be interested, given that Hart is retiring. Can Jimmy now sum why you and he are so definite he is staying. Is this a fact or merely your humble opinion being presented as such? Let's assume Celtic came in with a crazy offer, are you still adamant he will be staying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valois No1 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Clark is ok at a certain level but he is never the the level the old firm are looking at ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 43 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: The chat is that celtic have decided they want him with Hart retiring. To be honest, I'd be very surprised if there's any truth in them being interested, but if they were after him, I'd also be very surprised if he didn't want to go to them, and I'd also be surprised if we weren't willing to accept a substantial offer. I don't actually think Clark is particularly great, I think he's a good keeper by Scottish football standards but not outstanding, and I don't think it would be all that difficult to find someone else at a similar level. He's definitely nowhere near the calibre of a younger CG, Antti Niemi, or even Marian Kello IMO. I actually think if we really want to progress as a team, we need to be looking to try to get a better keeper than Clark anyway, whether we sign one or if Stone or McFarlane are capable of developing to that standard relatively soon. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, Valois No1 said: Clark is ok at a certain level but he is never the the level the old firm are looking at ffs. Exactly, snap their hand off for £1m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 17 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I'm not convinced - because I didn't say he was leaving. I said IF he leaves which was in the follow-up to a poster suggesting Celtic might be interested, given that Hart is retiring. Can Jimmy now sum why you and he are so definite he is staying. Is this a fact or merely your humble opinion being presented as such? Let's assume Celtic came in with a crazy offer, are you still adamant he will be staying? Because he's been one of our better players this year. Our improvement defensively has had a lot to do with him and a settled defence in front of him. I don't think we'll be entertaining offers for him, unless something ludicrous comes our way, which I don't think it will. Clark isn't Scott Bain, he's better and won't waste his prime years sitting on a bench. What's this humble opinion pish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Because he's been one of our better players this year. Our improvement defensively has had a lot to do with him and a settled defence in front of him. I don't think we'll be entertaining offers for him, unless something ludicrous comes our way, which I don't think it will. Clark isn't Scott Bain, he's better and won't waste his prime years sitting on a bench. What's this humble opinion pish? Firstly where did I say it was pish? The rest of your diatribe confirms that you don't actually know whether he is staying or not - you just THINK something might/might not happen. It's a pity you hadn't used the word THINK earlier instead of saying he's not going which seemed so definite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I think folk are bored already, and I dont blame them, this season has been pretty smooth since December, a couple of disheartening defeats to the OF whilst gently meandering to third under little pressure is causing minds to become agitated. I look forward to all manner of pish over the next 12 weeks, whilst management calmly wander down the path they have done for 12 months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Firstly where did I say it was pish? The rest of your diatribe confirms that you don't actually know whether he is staying or not - you just THINK something might/might not happen. It's a pity you hadn't used the word THINK earlier instead of saying he's not going which seemed so definite. You keep saying humble opinion, why? It's patronizing as feck. If only I had as much time to sit and pick up on everyone's punctuality and sentence construction as you. Happy bank holiday - sooner you're back at work the better. If I was a betting man, I'd be very comfortable wagering Clark is our #1 come August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: I suspected the same a couple of seasons ago and unfortunately it never came to pass. (Obviously in hindsight Shankland has been a excellent signing that was made that window, but we never really made any proper statement signings that window) I’d love to have a signing that we don’t just hope will elevate us, but that looks like they would before they even put on the strip. We need to start investing in quality to take us to the next level this window, but to save myself disappointment I’m going to assume it will be a slow and steady window like a couple of years ago. Solidifying and securing 3rd again I imagine. Yeah I am not expecting big signings like I was two seasons ago as I felt badly burned by that window (I thought we signed good players on the whole but it was not the next level player I thought we were going to sign, as you say Shankland is a bit different, at least in perspective at the time.) I am more just talking rumours which get you excited (even if you know they wont happen.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 51 minutes ago, Valois No1 said: Clark is ok at a certain level but he is never the the level the old firm are looking at ffs. I'd be incredibly surprised if either of them were interested in ZC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 15 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: You keep saying humble opinion, why? It's patronizing as feck. If only I had as much time to sit and pick up on everyone's punctuality and sentence construction as you. Happy bank holiday - sooner you're back at work the better. If I was a betting man, I'd be very comfortable wagering Clark is our #1 come August. Oh dear. It's not your punctuality (punctuation?) or sentence construction at issue, it's that you were so definite Clark was staying and I have never claimed otherwise. I was merely following up on a scenario put forward by another poster that Celtic might be interested since Hart is retiring. As regards your last sentence what difference does it make if you're comfortable or not? You're getting your knickers in a twist for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Other teams may be looking at Clark the same way we did originally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 19 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I think folk are bored already, and I dont blame them, this season has been pretty smooth since December, a couple of disheartening defeats to the OF whilst gently meandering to third under little pressure is causing minds to become agitated. I look forward to all manner of pish over the next 12 weeks, whilst management calmly wander down the path they have done for 12 months now. I know what you are saying, 2024 on the whole has been us on track to get third with little risk of us not getting it, so not quite as panicked from fans so get bored. but I do think this summer is going to be different from last summer in regards to bordem on the fact that we have signed 3 players already who on the whole show a reason to be excited about and see change happening. So there is not as much boredom as you can already start thinking about how we will be in next season. Last summer there was a real grind, it took over a week and half from the last game to announce the new manager (though looking at that I thought it took a lot longer.) Our recruitment took a long time relatively to others who were snapping players up and our signing was 21st of July (we were first linked with Nieuwenhof on the 16th July.) That was a summer with nothing on, people worried about the new manager and the direction we were in after the previous seasons collapse. This summer people will still be wanting to know all the time who is coming in, though I think the Euros will help stem the boredom a bit. That and having a bit more faith in the recruitment team this summer than last sumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Valois No1 said: Clark is ok at a certain level but he is never the the level the old firm are looking at ffs. ditto... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 42 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yeah I am not expecting big signings like I was two seasons ago as I felt badly burned by that window (I thought we signed good players on the whole but it was not the next level player I thought we were going to sign, as you say Shankland is a bit different, at least in perspective at the time.) I am more just talking rumours which get you excited (even if you know they wont happen.) I’ll take left field signings like Vargas and Tagawa any day of the week. Okay Tagawa hasn’t shown (yet) what he can do, but Vargas has worked out. And if we was Scottish and playing for Motherwell we’d be priced out of a move. Foreign signings get way too much snobbery from some for me, written off as projects or somehow less professional or hardworking as Scottish or English players, but if we’re going to get next level quality at a price we can afford, that’s the route we’ll need to go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 48 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: I’ll take left field signings like Vargas and Tagawa any day of the week. Okay Tagawa hasn’t shown (yet) what he can do, but Vargas has worked out. And if we was Scottish and playing for Motherwell we’d be priced out of a move. Foreign signings get way too much snobbery from some for me, written off as projects or somehow less professional or hardworking as Scottish or English players, but if we’re going to get next level quality at a price we can afford, that’s the route we’ll need to go down. Think for some, including me, foreign signings (and by foreign, i mean from somewhere the culture is vastly different) can take longer to settle into Scottish football and our culture. Where as the PCA signings we've made, theoretically, should have a better chance of hitting the ground running. Quite happy if we sign another Japanese/Cuban (or wherever) player if they are top quality, but reckon it would be risky to sign too many in case they don't settle in. It's all about getting the balance right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 17 minutes ago, Hansel said: Think for some, including me, foreign signings (and by foreign, i mean from somewhere the culture is vastly different) can take longer to settle into Scottish football and our culture. Where as the PCA signings we've made, theoretically, should have a better chance of hitting the ground running. Quite happy if we sign another Japanese/Cuban (or wherever) player if they are top quality, but reckon it would be risky to sign too many in case they don't settle in. It's all about getting the balance right. It does require balance. Something I think we are doing now as three signings so far are established Premiership players. However we should not rule out foreign signings who make take slightly longer to adapt if they can be big players for us. Nieuwenhof is an example of that. 1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said: I’ll take left field signings like Vargas and Tagawa any day of the week. Okay Tagawa hasn’t shown (yet) what he can do, but Vargas has worked out. And if we was Scottish and playing for Motherwell we’d be priced out of a move. Foreign signings get way too much snobbery from some for me, written off as projects or somehow less professional or hardworking as Scottish or English players, but if we’re going to get next level quality at a price we can afford, that’s the route we’ll need to go down. Yup, there is something I like about foreign signings who can feel quite left field and unknown. As I say you need the balance right of where players come from but I do think people shouldn't shy away from foreign signings because they might not hit the ground running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Every signing is a risk. Players from England are often caught out by the speed of the game here. Domestic signings from Scotland can be overwhelmed by the size of the club and the demands of the support. Its 2024 not 1984 I think the cultural difference thing is used to much. Its Edinburgh, a very international city by any standard's. We're not asking people from Rio De Janiero to move to the Shetland Islands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwalter Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 minutes ago, Daveandal said: Every signing is a risk. Players from England are often caught out by the speed of the game here. Domestic signings from Scotland can be overwhelmed by the size of the club and the demands of the support. Its 2024 not 1984 I think the cultural difference thing is used to much. Its Edinburgh, a very international city by any standard's. We're not asking people from Rio De Janiero to move to the Shetland Islands. Actually there's a wonderful and touching account to be found concerning some Brazilians who went to play in the Faroes once upon a time..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 hours ago, OTT said: As would I. At our level we cannot afford a team of 11 rockstars. We need to have players that are reliable if unspectacular that know their role, limitations and what they do well. I would take a basic and uninteresting defence if it meant we could spend a bit more to get in quality attacking talent - since we have a limited pool of money to spend. This is the thing some peeps are not getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hansel said: Think for some, including me, foreign signings (and by foreign, i mean from somewhere the culture is vastly different) can take longer to settle into Scottish football and our culture. Where as the PCA signings we've made, theoretically, should have a better chance of hitting the ground running. Quite happy if we sign another Japanese/Cuban (or wherever) player if they are top quality, but reckon it would be risky to sign too many in case they don't settle in. It's all about getting the balance right. It makes sense that foreign signings would take longer to settle than domestic based, we’ve seen that with Oda, Vargas and Nieuwenhof who many on here had written off early. But the thing is, if all those players were playing for teams lower than us in the league and were Scottish we wouldn’t have a chance at getting them as we’d be priced out of the running by English Championship and League One sides. We’ve already tied up 3 domestic based players and will have one returning from loan likely to feature next season, plus youth players knocking on the door. So we’ve got plenty of room for players based abroad to come over and acclimatise. And if we splash the cash a bit we can get players whose talent alone will help them hit the ground running, as there will be regions with talent like that which is affordable for us where domestically it isn’t. 39 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: It does require balance. Something I think we are doing now as three signings so far are established Premiership players. However we should not rule out foreign signings who make take slightly longer to adapt if they can be big players for us. Nieuwenhof is an example of that. Yup, there is something I like about foreign signings who can feel quite left field and unknown. As I say you need the balance right of where players come from but I do think people shouldn't shy away from foreign signings because they might not hit the ground running. It’s all about value for money. Aberdeen got Miovski for about the same we got Shankland. Neither of us would be able to get a player of a similar standard domestically for even twice what we paid. (Shankland went to Belgium for around £1 million, how much do you think United would have wanted to sell him to a domestic rival? We got him for what we did because he himself took a while to acclimatise in Belgium and we signed him from there) Edited May 6 by BackOfTheNet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: It makes sense that foreign signings would take longer to settle than domestic based, we’ve seen that with Oda, Vargas and Nieuwenhof who many on here had written off early. But the thing is, if all those players were playing for teams lower than us in the league and were Scottish we wouldn’t have a chance at getting them as we’d be priced out of the running by English Championship and League One sides. We’ve already tied up 3 domestic based players and will have one returning from loan likely to feature next season, plus youth players knocking on the door. So we’ve got plenty of room for players based abroad to come over and acclimatise. And if we splash the cash a bit we can get players whose talent alone will help them hit the ground running, as there will be regions with talent like that which is affordable for us where domestically it isn’t. It’s all about value for money. Aberdeen got Miovski for about the same we got Shankland. Neither of us would be able to get a player of a similar standard domestically for even twice what we paid. (Shankland went to Belgium for around £1 million, how much do you think United would have wanted to sell him to a domestic rival? We got him for what we did because he himself took a while to acclimatise in Belgium and we signed him from there) Aberdeen lucked out on Miovski. They weren't looking at him - they were watching Ramadani (at the same club). When watching Ramadani, they also saw Miovski and managed to basically arrange a "twofor" - getting the guy they really wanted, but throwing Miovski in as part of the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: yeah agree to an extent Jimmy , but we need to consider that the talent available locally isn’t what it was. Most of the talent is snaffled up well before they feature in the SPFL or lower leagues. Marc Leonard is a great example, every team in Scotland has been stripped of talent to some extent if Davie Weir, Neil McCann or Colin Cameron we’re breaking through today they’d already be in England. If course there are exception Players that good simply wouldn’t be at Raith, Dundee or Falkirk for us to sign. we can compete better, for a lower quality of player. I know it’s probably been done to death but one of the ‘joys’ of Brexit is that UK clubs can’t sign 16-18 year olds from across the channel. Meaning that English clubs are now hoovering up more young Scottish talent than previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 27 minutes ago, BRY said: Aberdeen lucked out on Miovski. They weren't looking at him - they were watching Ramadani (at the same club). When watching Ramadani, they also saw Miovski and managed to basically arrange a "twofor" - getting the guy they really wanted, but throwing Miovski in as part of the deal Lucky *******s, Ramadani was pish and ****knows how they got decent money from an Italian club for him 🤦🏽?!?! But there is obviously decent players from that area that we might be better looking at than other places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 29 minutes ago, BRY said: Aberdeen lucked out on Miovski. They weren't looking at him - they were watching Ramadani (at the same club). When watching Ramadani, they also saw Miovski and managed to basically arrange a "twofor" - getting the guy they really wanted, but throwing Miovski in as part of the deal That’s how we signed Zico from nitten star. I’m sure we were looking at their no.9. Ended up with their RB. A brilliant piece of business regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said: The thing is, I don't think we really signed them at their peaks, I think we managed to get them at a point where they'd shown a lot of potential, but I don't think they peaked until they were with us (or maybe after). I think we're probably now in a position financially where we could go for at least one or two of that sort of calibre player at that stage of their careers again. I think that's still true, but definitely harder; our team is the biggest draw outside OF at the moment for young Scottish talent that doesn't get drafted into an english youth team early doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 43 minutes ago, BRY said: Aberdeen lucked out on Miovski. They weren't looking at him - they were watching Ramadani (at the same club). When watching Ramadani, they also saw Miovski and managed to basically arrange a "twofor" - getting the guy they really wanted, but throwing Miovski in as part of the deal I’m not bigging up Aberdeen’s scouting system (although Ramadani was also good and has been good in Serie A), the point is what sort of talent you can get in certain countries and for what value compared to what we’d have to pay for an in contract domestic player of the same level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, Valois No1 said: Clark is ok at a certain level but he is never the the level the old firm are looking at ffs. He's Scottish and better than bain, so maybe they want the best Scottish 'keeper that would sign for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valois No1 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: He's Scottish and better than bain, so maybe they want the best Scottish 'keeper that would sign for them Yeah perhaps. If they were signing him for a no2 then maybe but he’s not a no1 for either of the old firm. I think he is steady and a decent keeper but he’s not even as good as Jon Mclaughlan imo. You may be right tho it may be a no2 they are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, Valois No1 said: Yeah perhaps. If they were signing him for a no2 then maybe but he’s not a no1 for either of the old firm. I think he is steady and a decent keeper but he’s not even as good as Jon Mclaughlan imo. You may be right tho it may be a no2 they are looking for. I meant more about needing Scottish players for Europe really; Mclaughlin was absolutely outstanding for us, the entire Season, only Gordon has had a better Season than that, that's true If we get a good offer and he wants to go, great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: I meant more about needing Scottish players for Europe really; Mclaughlin was absolutely outstanding for us, the entire Season, only Gordon has had a better Season than that, that's true If we get a good offer and he wants to go, great Think McLaughlin is being freed by Rangers if we need another keeper… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just now, LarrysRightFoot said: Think McLaughlin is being freed by Rangers if we need another keeper… What age is he now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valois No1 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: I meant more about needing Scottish players for Europe really; Mclaughlin was absolutely outstanding for us, the entire Season, only Gordon has had a better Season than that, that's true If we get a good offer and he wants to go, great 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 6 hours ago, Valois No1 said: Clark is ok at a certain level but he is never the the level the old firm are looking at ffs. I don’t know. Celtic signed Joe Hart and he’s pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 57 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: What age is he now? Will be 37 in September https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_McLaughlin_(footballer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Will be 37 in September https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_McLaughlin_(footballer) 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I’ve not seen tons of him and I don’t think he’s one we will be interested in but every time I have saw him Luke Molynuex at Doncaster has impressed me. A real throw back of a tricky winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, LarrysRightFoot said: I’ve not seen tons of him and I don’t think he’s one we will be interested in but every time I have saw him Luke Molynuex at Doncaster has impressed me. A real throw back of a tricky winger. Think we were linked with him a couple of years ago. https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-update-on-in-demand-hartlepool-united-forward-luke-molyneux-3705605 nothing much came of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 hours ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Think McLaughlin is being freed by Rangers if we need another keeper… I don't think that would be a bad move TBH - Assuming Zander goes. If he doesn't then quite happy with Gordon & Zander competing for #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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