qferryjam Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Kit, hiring parks, washing the kits, travel, league membership fees, fines, coaches fees, etc. It doesn't all just happen for free. There have been numerous threads and all these arguments were debunked, Hearts ladies / girls WERE-self financed through subs sponsorships and people giving time for free (Bonds Clinic is a sponsor )all prior to hearts involvement. Hearts have/ will integrate ladies / girls into the set up , so there may actually be a financial benefit to hearts as a whole depending how future sponsorship is actually structured. English ladies football has just secured Barclays as the main sponsor for super league of £10 million over 3 years that’s on par with the men’s game here . If the women’s game here can get the right people involved at the top it could really push it forward quickly ( Ann or Leanne ) would be my bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: As the game develops in Scotland I also think it needs to be largely self-sustaining. If it grows to the point where crowds of 5,000 or more are generated for some games and sponsors are found, there is no reason why some clubs at least can't become semi-professional. I earnestly hope that if our final game at Tnecastle has the league championship at stake, a crowd of 2,000 plus will be generated. For the sake of comparison, the average attendance in the WSL last season was 833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said: Yes , yes I am ,as I said umpteen times , the only person directly employed is K Murphy and he gets input into the boys teams too . Employing him , did that help in getting Meshi ???? Now I’m not sure if what I type is coming out on this website in Vulcan or something BUT THE WOMENS AND GIRLS FOOTBALL TEAMS UP TO THIS CURRENT DATE ARE SELF FUNDED through , subs , sponsorships and fund raising . Now this is me just speculating but the mysterious benefactor might have stipulated that for Hearts to receive any backing it has to be all exclusive . If spending £100k gets the whole club a hell of a lot more money would it be worth it then? Maybe the benefactor has young females in his/her family and wants them to get a chance and that’s a reason as well? Regardless I’m sure the custodians have done the diligence on the cost and see it as no threat to the men’s team ( something I’d hope they have done) You're obviously privy to Ann Budge's investment (or lack of as it now appears) so I'll bow to your superior knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, McCrae said: I was shocked when I saw the advertisement for this position. Did it say they were getting paid? There is no way that is someone's full time job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Hungry hippo said: Did it say they were getting paid? There is no way that is someone's full time job. yes it was advertised as a full time paid job. At the same time they advertised for about another 4 or 5 part time paid jobs. Mostly paid coaching positions for the girls teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, McCrae said: yes it was advertised as a full time paid job. At the same time they advertised for about another 4 or 5 part time paid jobs. Mostly paid coaching positions for the girls teams. Cheers. I know you're not lying so assume there must be some sort of misunderstanding. I still can't believe we'll be paying someone 35 hours a week to manage the Twitter, Facebook and Instagram accounts purely for the women's team. I use all and there aren't many updates on the girls - most days zero. Edited October 26, 2019 by Hungry hippo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, McCrae said: yes it was advertised as a full time paid job. At the same time they advertised for about another 4 or 5 part time paid jobs. Mostly paid coaching positions for the girls teams. That can't be true. We've been told on this thread that Hearts don't give the ladies team a penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: You're obviously privy to Ann Budge's investment (or lack of as it now appears) so I'll bow to your superior knowledge. Another assumption you’re making , I only know what I pay -despite my daughters sponsorship- along with all the other parents involved . All for a discussion on the subject my friend but don’t make things up eh, I think you’re a better person than that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis87 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 hours ago, McCrae said: The staff associated with the women’s game are paid. We even employ a full time social media person to support the women’s game. Maybe you missed the long list of paid positions for the women’s game the club recently advertised? https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/girls-academy-and-women-first-team-vacancies We would like to invite applications for the following positions: Hearts Women First Team Goalkeeping Coach Girls Academy and Women’s Lead Physiotherapist Hearts Girls Academy Coach Hearts Girls Academy Goalkeeping Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: Another assumption you’re making , I only know what I pay -despite my daughters sponsorship- along with all the other parents involved . All for a discussion on the subject my friend but don’t make things up eh, I think you’re a better person than that . Clear as mud. First of all you tell us Ann Budge has invested nothing and now you tell us you only know what you've paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambali Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Well done Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: Another assumption you’re making , I only know what I pay -despite my daughters sponsorship- along with all the other parents involved . All for a discussion on the subject my friend but don’t make things up eh, I think you’re a better person than that . Don’t know why you bother mate. Even 100k when we have double our previous turnover is a drop in the ocean. Not like you or other parents have to subsidise your kids is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, sadj said: Even 100k when we have double our previous turnover is a drop in the ocean. Not like you or other parents have to subsidise your kids is it. This post makes no sense. Our costs have also more than doubled. If you look at our profits our investment in women’s football is a massive %. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Clear as mud. First of all you tell us Ann Budge has invested nothing and now you tell us you only know what you've paid? If Ann Budge has been paying in , we wouldn’t need to be paying subs , not that difficult to grasp is it . Tell you what tho as you’re just clearly arguing for argument sake go and do it with someone who has the time for it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, sadj said: Don’t know why you bother mate. Even 100k when we have double our previous turnover is a drop in the ocean. Not like you or other parents have to subsidise your kids is it. You’re right , I’m going to post the scores and do my best to ignore the negativity on here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: You’re right , I’m going to post the scores and do my best to ignore the negativity on here . Please do - always happy to read about a successful part of the Hearts community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 minute ago, scott herbertson said: Please do - always happy to read about a successful part of the Hearts community 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: Please do - always happy to read about a successful part of the Hearts community this. @3fingersreid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Lewis87 said: https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/girls-academy-and-women-first-team-vacancies We would like to invite applications for the following positions: Hearts Women First Team Goalkeeping Coach Girls Academy and Women’s Lead Physiotherapist Hearts Girls Academy Coach Hearts Girls Academy Goalkeeping Coach Perhaps they can find the right man along a corridor somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 C'mon Hearts Ladies. Let's get the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: If Ann Budge has been paying in , we wouldn’t need to be paying subs , not that difficult to grasp is it . Tell you what tho as you’re just clearly arguing for argument sake go and do it with someone who has the time for it . Still no clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Gaz Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 24/10/2019 at 12:34, Ray Gin said: Top of the league, great to see the investment paying off. There's no way it's only £100k per year. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Any score reports v Killie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Any score reports v Killie? Trailing 0-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Trailing 1-0 not playing well at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 HT 1-0 down goal disallowed which was debatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Two home games to come. Equaliser could be gold. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 26/10/2019 at 01:15, Kiwidoug said: As the game develops in Scotland I also think it needs to be largely self-sustaining. If it grows to the point where crowds of 5,000 or more are generated for some games and sponsors are found, there is no reason why some clubs at least can't become semi-professional. I earnestly hope that if our final game at Tnecastle has the league championship at stake, a crowd of 2,000 plus will be generated. It will be semi pro if we get sponsorships and an attendance of 100-200 a paying fans week. The majority of the teams in the East of Scotland 1st division get paid and most don’t have more than 50/100 at games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 1-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: 1-1 Yes... how longs left? Was it a little 3fingers pearler again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 good news - how long to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 26/10/2019 at 09:57, jambopilms said: I find it hard to believe that have a full time person to send a few tweets a week for an amateur team. I am sure the employees remit is fairly wide ranging and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they are also tasked with working on JKB. The company needs to divide and conquer to protect their position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 No Rachel again , about 15 to go plus ref time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 7628mm said: I am sure the employees remit is fairly wide ranging and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they are also tasked with working on JKB. The company needs to divide and conquer to protect their position. so Hearts employee someone to join jkb and post positive things? Divide and Conquer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: No Rachel again , about 15 to go plus ref time She’s another baller 🙌🏻🙌🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Full time 1-1 not the best performance but still 3 clear 2 games to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 57 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: Full time 1-1 not the best performance but still 3 clear 2 games to go Great. Thanks for the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 26/10/2019 at 16:48, 3fingersreid said: You’re right , I’m going to post the scores and do my best to ignore the negativity on here . Hopefully you can be assisted by the powers that be, in this. The thread is being totally ruined by the existential debate and it makes it barely readable. Thanks for keeping us posted though, appreciated. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Hopefully you can be assisted by the powers that be, in this. The thread is being totally ruined by the existential debate and it makes it barely readable. Thanks for keeping us posted though, appreciated. 👍 Hey, look who's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, martoon said: Hey, look who's back. Hello. Nice to be back. Hope you are well, mate. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, Icon of Symmetry said: Hello. Nice to be back. Hope you are well, mate. 👍 I'm fine, bud. As long as I don't think about football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo647 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I was at Livingston yesterday and Rugby Park today, today’s game was a far more enjoyable experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, martoon said: I'm fine, bud. As long as I don't think about football. Yeah, not great is it. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jambo647 said: I was at Livingston yesterday and Rugby Park today, today’s game was a far more enjoyable experience I'd be there as well if I could. I see Hamilton also drew today so the league really is ours to lose now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sadj Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lewis87 said: Number 2 looked rather pissed off at the Killie goal @3fingersreid i hope she gave the goalie a mouthful that was a horrendous goal to concede. Rachel with another well taken goal , (even with a sight deflection) 2games ours to lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, sadj said: Number 2 looked rather pissed off at the Killie goal @3fingersreid i hope she gave the goalie a mouthful that was a horrendous goal to concede. Rachel with another well taken goal , (even with a sight deflection) 2games ours to lose What the highlights failed to show was their goal came from our free kick 10 yards inside the killie half and we gave the ball away . Hopefully the nerves were settled today and replaced with determination . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Really hope Hearts will go all out on Facebook etc to encourage as many as possible along to the Tynecastle game next month. Hope for good weather and a trophy to be collected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Aye they might get at least 250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: Aye they might get at least 250. More than many senior men’s teams get, and comparable to the bottom tier of our professional set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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