Absolute Scenes Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 With the transfer thread into turmoil, I thought it would be a good distraction to discuss Gino. A lot of noise about him potentially not being good enough, moving him on etc maybe an unpopular opinion but I think he still has a place in this team. I’m interested to see how he will fare against European opponents as I feel they play a different style of football to Scottish. His pace is obviously his strongest asset but his final third delivery has not been great. However, in and out of the first team does mean he maybe never had a full run at maintaining his place. He secured us a number of points including his brilliant display as striker against Perth farmers at home and has cropped up with a number of goals. I personally think he’s going to have a good season with us, think he may surprise a few open to discussing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Only reason he should be going anywhere is if we can upgrade on him. I def think he has something to offer as part of our squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Absolute Scenes said: With the transfer thread into turmoil, I thought it would be a good distraction to discuss Gino. A lot of noise about him potentially not being good enough, moving him on etc maybe an unpopular opinion but I think he still has a place in this team. I’m interested to see how he will fare against European opponents as I feel they play a different style of football to Scottish. His pace is obviously his strongest asset but his final third delivery has not been great. However, in and out of the first team does mean he maybe never had a full run at maintaining his place. He secured us a number of points including his brilliant display as striker against Perth farmers at home and has cropped up with a number of goals. I personally think he’s going to have a good season with us, think he may surprise a few open to discussing though Clearly a confidence player and he's been up & down over the season but has pace to burn. I'd still keep him as an impact sub coming on against tired legs late in the game. If he could improve his crossing and chip in with a few more goals, I'd be delighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 There’s 3 attacking players who always come up in this kind of conversation. Ginelly GMS & Mceneff. Of those 2 Ginelly is the only one worth keeping and only on the grounds that he has real pace and has an impact now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgieshed Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Ginelly has pace and can be a bit unpredictable for defenders (and himself at times). Long season ahead and I see no reason why he won't be called upon. Given, he wouldn't make our strongest team but certainly handy player to have in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, RS86 said: Only reason he should be going anywhere is if we can upgrade on him. I def think he has something to offer as part of our squad This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 He missed a fair bit of last season due to a combination of catching Covid and having to isolate more due to not getting vaccinated. That disruption will have been a big factor in him not doing more last season. That may also cause him issues getting to certain countries to play in Europe. I think he's a good player and offers something different. He can be inconsistent at times but that's the norm for most wingers. I hope we can get a bit more out of him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Would make a great title for a follow up reality TV show spun off from our Inside Tynecastle documentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, number-16 said: He missed a fair bit of last season due to a combination of catching Covid and having to isolate more due to not getting vaccinated. That disruption will have been a big factor in him not doing more last season. That may also cause him issues getting to certain countries to play in Europe. I think he's a good player and offers something different. He can be inconsistent at times but that's the norm for most wingers. I hope we can get a bit more out of him this year. Yeah didn’t appear to be very happy even when playing last Season I know only too well the damage Covid can cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Imagine he'll play a good few Sundays up to Christmas at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: With the transfer thread into turmoil, I thought it would be a good distraction to discuss Gino. A lot of noise about him potentially not being good enough, moving him on etc maybe an unpopular opinion but I think he still has a place in this team. I’m interested to see how he will fare against European opponents as I feel they play a different style of football to Scottish. His pace is obviously his strongest asset but his final third delivery has not been great. However, in and out of the first team does mean he maybe never had a full run at maintaining his place. He secured us a number of points including his brilliant display as striker against Perth farmers at home and has cropped up with a number of goals. I personally think he’s going to have a good season with us, think he may surprise a few open to discussing though Not good enough, move him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 One year left. Last chance saloon. More consistent or move him on. Showed glimpses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams bird Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I thought it was about his house 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I definitely feel he has something to offer, but probably low on confidence at the moment. If he can get a wee run of games at take defenders on, and beat them, he would still be an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 We don’t use him properly, if we did with him what Hibs did with Boyle he would be more productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, jonesy said: Good point. His crossing is so poor - and I assume we work on it in training - that he's much better if needing to shoot. He's taken the goals he has scored very well. Get him running past the last huddie with a ball over the top v teams like St Mirren and Ross County rather than tapping the ball about in front of their back 8. Problem is these team sit deep against us and this tactic doesn't work on that basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 imo Gino should only be used as an impact sub as a 2nd or 3rd choice central striker. He has pace but he is not a winger, he is very one dimensional out wide, he gets the ball and he stands the defender up before going on the outside and trying to get a cross in. His final ball is poor and defenders had him figured out after a few weeks. As a central striker he is a better option and he is actually a pretty decent finisher when he can use his pace to get in behind. I would keep him as an option of the bench as a striker but not as a creative winger/wide forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I've been quite critical of Gino but forgot that he and Smiffy had covid. Unless we are able to upgrade he is somebody to keep as an option though. Just not as a winger. Through the middle with a partner for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 13 hours ago, JimmyCant said: There’s 3 attacking players who always come up in this kind of conversation. Ginelly GMS & Mceneff. Of those 2 Ginelly is the only one worth keeping and only on the grounds that he has real pace and has an impact now and again. He should’ve started the final. Bit baffled why he didn’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Powder puff of a player IMO. Doesn’t look interested and very lightweight. Would love him to prove me wrong but double he’d make any impact in Europe. Edited June 24, 2022 by Apache Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 hours ago, number-16 said: He missed a fair bit of last season due to a combination of catching Covid and having to isolate more due to not getting vaccinated. That disruption will have been a big factor in him not doing more last season. That may also cause him issues getting to certain countries to play in Europe. I think he's a good player and offers something different. He can be inconsistent at times but that's the norm for most wingers. I hope we can get a bit more out of him this year. I like Gino and would keep him this season. My frustration is not that he made the decision not to get vaccinated, its a personal choice and so be it, but that he got Covid 3 times. It’s crazy. My frustration is that he must of missed so much of the season(s) due to this. Weeks isolating and then getting his fitness back I hope his immune systems is super strong and he remains healthy and fit this season. 💪🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts are rampant Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 A good signing when he first arrived as we were crying out for pace and wide players (so possibly seemed better than he was). The fact he was only on loan meant he was possibly trying a lot harder and more eager to please. The quality of the squad has improved since he first arrived, so possibly it’s not that he’s worse or become a bad player, more guys like McKay have shown type of standard we can get and rest of team have moved on from level were at before. You obviously can’t train to suddenly have pace so that’s a huge asset he has. However, he really does need to train and work on his finishing and final ball. Nowhere near a first pick but a useful player to have as a sub and on fringes. Offset of that is we could likely have youth players who could do that and by the age Ginnelly is will have a good final ball and finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Keep. aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 If he starts more than ten games next season, we've not improved enough, imo. Decent bench player but very limited ability. We need better in those positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holtie Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 He’s got pace, full stop! No awareness of what is going on round about him whatsoever - he doesn’t have a footballers brain ( you can’t teach that) and, worst of all, he has zero composure. He’s not a game changer and simply makes up the numbers…….! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 He’s shite. Might be a good option away from home in Europe though so he can run about. That’s all he can do really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Keep for games v Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Gino will be a useful squad player and if we are only to keep 1 out of mceneff, gms and him, it's got to be gino for me, although inconsistent I think he is capable of having really good performances, unlike the other two where I haven't seen either of them perform above average for us, he has a huge attribute, which is his pace, if he can work on scoring more/converting more chances or getting more shots on target, I think he could develop into a top player, It's up to him really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I think we’ll keep GMS - not sure he has really earned it but Robbie wants as many of the squad as possible to have had Euro experience. I think only him and Gordon have (excluding internationalists) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I'd have a lot more time for him if he got vaccinated. Yes, it's a personal choice. It's also the choice of the club to loan him out to Cowdenbeath because he's not maintaining his health properly. He turned a couple of games last season for us. Yes, he could disappear at times, but that's the way pacey strikers can be. I agree that I like him more centrally than on the wing. Not a bad squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: I'd have a lot more time for him if he got vaccinated. Yes, it's a personal choice. It's also the choice of the club to loan him out to Cowdenbeath because he's not maintaining his health properly. He turned a couple of games last season for us. Yes, he could disappear at times, but that's the way pacey strikers can be. I agree that I like him more centrally than on the wing. Not a bad squad player. Yea its a personal choice He , personally , chooses to make it very likely he won't be able to turn up for his work . Also while , very possibly , infecting his workmates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 He was terrible last season let’s not sugar coat it. A couple of moments here and there but did anyone actually notice when he wasn’t there, or think we could really do with Gino in this game? He needs to get his head down and work hard or We won’t see much of him again in a Hearts jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Definitely worth keeping and seeing if he can be worked on. He’d be a very good player at this level if he just knew how to use his pace. Just need to look at Martin Boyle. As a footballer he’s pretty awful and for 2-3 years at Hibs he was just that. Suddenly he learns how to use his pace and he’s their best player sold for millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Would keep Good finisher and puts the work in even when he's having a poor game, that is rare in a winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 23/06/2022 at 18:23, Absolute Scenes said: With the transfer thread into turmoil, I thought it would be a good distraction to discuss Gino. A lot of noise about him potentially not being good enough, moving him on etc maybe an unpopular opinion but I think he still has a place in this team. I’m interested to see how he will fare against European opponents as I feel they play a different style of football to Scottish. His pace is obviously his strongest asset but his final third delivery has not been great. However, in and out of the first team does mean he maybe never had a full run at maintaining his place. He secured us a number of points including his brilliant display as striker against Perth farmers at home and has cropped up with a number of goals. I personally think he’s going to have a good season with us, think he may surprise a few open to discussing though I think he is one of those players that may well benefit from having some sessions with our Sports Psychologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, wavydavy said: I think he is one of those players that may well benefit from having some sessions with our Sports Psychologist. Definitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 17 hours ago, Rudy T said: He was terrible last season let’s not sugar coat it. A couple of moments here and there but did anyone actually notice when he wasn’t there, or think we could really do with Gino in this game? He needs to get his head down and work hard or We won’t see much of him again in a Hearts jersey. Actually there were loads of games where we could have done with bringing the real Gino on. We’ve not seen it very often but on his game his pace is electric and he’s very hard to deal with. Problem was we often got the 50% Gino who just couldn’t get himself into the game, even against tired legs. If he could just produce a bit more often from the bench. Walker had a knack of coming on and changing the game and that’s what we need from Gino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 24/06/2022 at 09:16, Holtie said: He’s got pace, full stop! No awareness of what is going on round about him whatsoever - he doesn’t have a footballers brain ( you can’t teach that) and, worst of all, he has zero composure. He’s not a game changer and simply makes up the numbers…….! Gino has good composure when in on goal and is a good finisher. We should try playing him behind the main striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, JimmyCant said: Actually there were loads of games where we could have done with bringing the real Gino on. We’ve not seen it very often but on his game his pace is electric and he’s very hard to deal with. Problem was we often got the 50% Gino who just couldn’t get himself into the game, even against tired legs. If he could just produce a bit more often from the bench. Walker had a knack of coming on and changing the game and that’s what we need from Gino. It’s appears to be symptomatic of Ginos career has the tools to be a very good player, unable or unwilling to sustain a run of good performances then seems to just drift away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7PNJ4 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 He had a disjointed season but I believe one with more consistent game time will lead to positive results. Pace like that doesn't exist anywhere else in our squad and if Gino can improve on his delivery/decision making then he could be a very dangerous player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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