Bigsmak Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 It looks like there might be a consultation by the government to see if we should return to imperial measurements. Is this a fad to try and keep the Brexiters on side or does it actually have any merit? Why would we use imperial over metric? Are we right to keep a little bit of a mix? EG - we use miles on the road because its what we are used to - but we buy food in KG rather than pounds and ounces! Found this simple site that explains (its from a school I think) https://www.houseofmaths.co.uk/2017/01/which-is-better-metric-or-imperial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Absolute lunacy to return to imperial measurements. Backward thinking at it's worst. Nothing but a sop to the hard of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Britain should have been fully metric long before now, given that schools have taught the metric system since the mid 1960s. I guess that the retention of certain imperial measures, e.g. pints and miles, was down to political expediency, a distrust of Europeans and the conversion cost at the time. No government since then appears to want to upset even a small proportion of their voters by pushing through the change. The current proposals are just a kite flying exercise aimed to appeal to the "imperialists", aka Britnats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 It's a form of isolationism and with tendancies of supremacy. Perhaps even leaning towards radicalism. It's not the kind of thought that has any place or business for a (still) important western democracy and leading diplomatic power. It's not about the trivial specifics. It's about the backwards ideology that presents itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I'm sure that 99.99% of the population are far more interested in how much things cost as opposed to how they're measured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cade said: I'm sure that 99.99% of the population are far more interested in how much things cost as opposed to how they're measured. Exactly this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Metric is miles better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Changing things is always a good excuse to raise prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Boof said: Metric is miles better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I'm not fussed was taught in both. Just like I was in pounds shillings and pennies, and then decimal money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Case closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mister T said: Case closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Imperial, the correct way. None of this swarthy Johnny Foreigner nonsense. God save The Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 If it ain't broke don't fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, Boof said: Metric is miles better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, Boof said: Metric is miles better. Certainly easier to work with, still weigh myself in stones and pounds 😀. metric better for working out an area for wooden flooring, tiles, can use both for fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 6 or 15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share Posted June 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Certainly easier to work with, still weigh myself in stones and pounds 😀. metric better for working out an area for wooden flooring, tiles, can use both for fuel. The same Distance = Miles Golf course = yrds + inches Hight = Foot and Inches Weight = Stone and pounds (although starting to get the metric equivalent) BUT - if I was to buy anything from Ikea, measure a table or a bit of wood needing cut, anything bought from the butchers or asda - Its metric - Metric is so much easier to work with - multiply up, divide down - so easy.. I couldn't tell you how many yrd or feet there are in 8 miles but instantly know how many meters are in 8km Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bigsmak said: The same Distance = Miles Golf course = yrds + inches Hight = Foot and Inches Weight = Stone and pounds (although starting to get the metric equivalent) BUT - if I was to buy anything from Ikea, measure a table or a bit of wood needing cut, anything bought from the butchers or asda - Its metric - Metric is so much easier to work with - multiply up, divide down - so easy.. I couldn't tell you how many yrd or feet there are in 8 miles but instantly know how many meters are in 8km 14,080 yards in 8 miles. 1760 yards in a mile. 8 x 1760 = 14,080. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Morgan said: 6 or 15? Had to think about that. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: If it ain't broke don't fix it Ill take 568 mils of Guinness ta’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Metric is just so elegant. Originally, 1 metre was 1 ten-millionth of the distance between the north pole and the equator. 1 litre was the volume of water in a 10cmx10cmx10cm cube. The mass of that water was 1 kilogram. The amount of energy to raise 1 gram of water by 1 degree celsius was 1 calorie. Celsius itself was simple. Water freezes at 0 (at sea level) and boils at 100 (again, at sea level). Imperial measurements are just bonkers, based on the dimensions of human body parts or on averages of random weighting units created by the peasantry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Metric is more precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just keep the system we have now, seems to work fine, so don't go fully back to imperial but have a half and half, like it is. Of course for many metric is all they know, so that's the measurements that they'll swear by, other folks who have used both imperial & metric will often have a different view point. I could never imagine going into a pub and asking for a half litre of beer, nah a pint of best or lager, or babies weights, I could tell you every one of my childrens weight at birth in Ibs & oz's but I don't have a clue what they would have been in kg without working it out, same with height, someone is 5ft 10in, haven't a clue what that is in metres. However if I measure something I do it in mm or cm never in inches, mm is much more exact. So I'm happy to just stay the way things are using a combination of imperial & metric, I have no wish or desire to go back fully to imperial, equally I don't fancy going fully metric either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Ill take 568 mils of Guinness ta’ They’ll just round it to 500ml and charge the same price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Use a mixture. Taught in mls and grams but have no idea how much a kilo "feels". Would weigh myself in stone and lbs. Similarly have no idea how far KMs are composted to miles. Same thing for a speedometer in a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Use a mixture. Taught in mls and grams but have no idea how much a kilo "feels". Would weigh myself in stone and lbs. Similarly have no idea how far KMs are composted to miles. Same thing for a speedometer in a car. A kilo is 2lbs 2oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatonjambo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) Most if not all people taught and brought up on the imperial system will be 6 foot under by 2030 so why change Edited June 3, 2022 by heatonjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, John Findlay said: A kilo is 2lbs 2oz. 2oz 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 What's next, back to auld money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: 2oz 🤷♂️ 21 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: 2oz 🤷♂️ A kilo is basically the Weight of a bag of sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: 2oz 🤷♂️ Just under 60 grams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside jambo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 When I served my time as a joiner in the 70s sheets of plywood were in inches or feet but plasterboard was metric in width but imperial in length timber was in inches for width 4x2 ect but came in metric lengths 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 This isn’t rocket science. Although it probably should be. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/1110mars-climate-observer-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Seaside jambo said: When I served my time as a joiner in the 70s sheets of plywood were in inches or feet but plasterboard was metric in width but imperial in length timber was in inches for width 4x2 ect but came in metric lengths 🤦♂️ Ply still comes in imperial so an 8x4 is actually 2.4m x 1.2m. Possibly as a lot of timber stock comes from Canada and their main market will be the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside jambo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tazio said: Ply still comes in imperial so an 8x4 is actually 2.4m x 1.2m. Possibly as a lot of timber stock comes from Canada and their main market will be the US. Yes plywood is 2.440mm long & 1.220 mm wide would mostly come from Brazil or Malaya plasterboard is now 2.400mm long & 1.200mm wide don’t use a lot of timber in the trade now , well in new houses anyway MDF is king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, heatonjambo said: Most if not all people taught and brought up on the imperial system will be 6 foot under by 2030 so why change “1.829m under” I think you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatonjambo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, gjcc said: “1.829m under” I think you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Had to learn both when I did my apprenticeship Metric is much easier to use especially for dummies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, gjcc said: “1.829m under” I think you mean. Or just ashes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Morgan said: 6 or 15? 15 or 38? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 It doesn't matter a jot to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Morgan said: 6 or 15? 6 or 15? Hah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Keep it mixed. We moved to km on the roads in 2004, and we're well used to it now. Irish people still think in miles per gallon (older people at any rate), whereas I'm inclined to think in litres per hundred kilometres (higher is bad). A lot of older people use imperial for weights and heights. I use metric for weights and imperial for heights - for some reason, the difference between being 1.63m and 1.78m high just doesn't register with me, but the difference between 81 and 92 kilogrammes does. If you're in a normal height range, your weight in kilogrammes should give an accurate indicator of your waist size in centimetres, and vice versa. It can be out by a couple of centimetres or kg, but no more than 2 (normally). So if fat prat Johnson is 111 kg, his waist size is likely to be 111 cm. In imperial measurements, if his weight is 17 stone 7, his trouser waist size should be 44. I ask for "half a kilogramme or thereabouts" of meat at the butchers. They give me a funny look, and say they'll give me a pound, and then offer me in or around 500 grammes. We're also still using some American measurements in the house for recipes (cups and the like). Don't forget that American pints and gallons are smaller than their UK counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 What do they call a quarter pounder with cheese in Paris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Hansel said: What do they call a quarter pounder with cheese in Paris? 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, frankblack said: 👌 I took the kids to McDonald's today and that question was on their app, I didn't realise the link to Pulp Fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pap Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 What weight is a £7.50 bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Hansel said: What do they call a quarter pounder with cheese in Paris? Garbage, probably. That would be gar-baaaj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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