Deodato Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Reading on JKB some reports of trouble with Dundee fans and Google (mis)sent me to this clip from 1984. Brutal scenes from Tannadice, it looks totally out of control. Was anyone at this game? First hand reports appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 To be honest that’s fairly tame for the time, I was there that night, and nothing that night was particularly out of the ordinary for many away games in that era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGlynn The Money Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, Deodato said: Reading on JKB some reports of trouble with Dundee fans and Google (mis)sent me to this clip from 1984. Brutal scenes from Tannadice, it looks totally out of control. Was anyone at this game? First hand reports appreciated. I have it on good authority that @Morganwas there, windmilling ***** left, right and centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I miss the Maroon and White caps that supporters wore in those days. Never had one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 ‘Riot’, ‘brutal scenes’, ‘totally out of control’. Looks like a good sway and some folk on the pitch to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I remember as a young lad on one of my first away trips it all kicking off at Killie. Fair to say I was shiting myself suddenly being in the middle of a full on pagger between grown adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Was at the game , that was the norm back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire_At_The_Disco Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Easter Road around the same time was brutal, the games like above were just used as warm ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdav Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Th Good Old Days 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The slope under that shed was treacherous. Forward movement of any kind and you moved down 20 steps at speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts151 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Based on this.. assuming it's the same game based on the score the commentator mentioned and the year.. it does sound like it was pretty tame going by other games in this book lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, hearts151 said: Based on this.. assuming it's the same game based on the score the commentator mentioned and the year.. it does sound like it was pretty tame going by other games in this book lol What book is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts151 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Mars plastic said: What book is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Always found killie and Morton quite tasty back then although the “gorgie agro” where up for a scuffle anywhere to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) Never really noticed. Though perhaps didn't notice as that was normal then. Reminded below of the Police hat, that was more memorable. Edited October 25, 2021 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverwolf Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I was at that game. Was standing near the corner flag so only saw glimpses of the trouble. Once it had all calmed down, there was a lot of police in front if the Hearts fans and someone nicked a police hat and it was tossed around in the crowd. He never got it back. We were escorted on mass back to the station for the “football special”. This consisted of an ancient set of railway coaches that still has gas lamps installed and no electricity or heating. The return journey took an age as we were constantly put in sidings in order to let the express and regular trains keep their time slots. Some numb nut decided to let his testosterone get the better of him and smashed one of the windows in our coach. As you can imagine, it was a chilly journey back to Haymarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I was there but can't remember it being as bad as it looks on camera. Maybe just a sign of how things were then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: The slope under that shed was treacherous. Forward movement of any kind and you moved down 20 steps at speed Used to hate going there cause as you say the slope was terrible. I’d end up in hospital nowadays if got involved in a sway on that terracing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Always found killie and Morton quite tasty back then although the “gorgie agro” where up for a scuffle anywhere to be fair Remember walking to the ground, after getting off the train at Haymarket - with my old man. Can’t remember the exact year but we were playing Morton at home and there must have been about hundred Morton casuals followed right at the back of us all the way up. They looked and sounded like they were right up for it 👀 I was only a wee laddie at the time. Remember just thinking, just get to the ground and don’t look back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just normal for these times. Don't think it was this game but remember one time at Tannadice talking to a Hearts fan near the fence. Turned to discuss the political situation in the Middle East with one of the Arab fans then turned back to find my pal gone. Actually he was at my feet after being knocked out by a golf ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad the Sailor Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Not a patch on away trips to Airdrie in the 70s where the bus regularly became a convertible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sinbad the Sailor said: Not a patch on away trips to Airdrie in the 70s where the bus regularly became a convertible Forgot about Airdrie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The only crowd trouble I remember from that time around the early 80s was Police fighting with Celtic fans in the home end. As said a bit of fighting between fans was just normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Viertel Hearts Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, JimmyCant said: The slope under that shed was treacherous. Forward movement of any kind and you moved down 20 steps at speed That's the answer looks worse than actuality. For example, THE 3 nil game on TV was great as giant Hearts support was swaying all over the place. Then it went pear shaped a few weeks later. : ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, JimmyCant said: The slope under that shed was treacherous. Forward movement of any kind and you moved down 20 steps at speed First time I stepped on it as a teen I'd though I'd panic and fall off. Another degree or two more and it would have been like standing on ridge halfway up a cliff. Edited October 25, 2021 by martoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans von Luck Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Great times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I blame the steep terracing - it had a domino effect. A lot of pushing and shoving which resulted in fans getting pissed off with each other as you could go down 6 or 7 steps like shit off a shovel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Killie away, might have been the season we didn’t get promoted also panned the camera towards the Hearts support kicking off. Remember sitting watching it the next day with my old man and being terrified he would see me in the midst of it. Thankfully tvs didn’t freeze frame or rewind in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under the floodlight Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 There was stuff being thrown as usual over the fence, police decided to charge into hearts fans from the back some police weilding batons, a few punches thrown and police and fans fell down terraces,a few police got kicked on the ground. Just part and parcel back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Killie away, might have been the season we didn’t get promoted also panned the camera towards the Hearts support kicking off. Remember sitting watching it the next day with my old man and being terrified he would see me in the midst of it. Thankfully tvs didn’t freeze frame or rewind in those days. There was a guy at my school who was clearly shown on the TV - he just stood there with his arms folded ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Tannadice was always a ground where there was a lot of trouble. The terracing was very steep and there were usually as many away fans as home fans. The fence was attracted all the dafties. Worst one I recall was the League Cup semi final although there was a lot of bother in both matches the season we were newly promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Radge Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Kilmarnock in the 70s was an adventure. Their fans called themselves the brolly boys as if they were Clockwork Orange extras and chased a group of us from Rugby Park to the train station. I can’t run as fast as that now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Bill Leckie must have been crying under his bed in those days given how big and bad he finds football now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11_2NL Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Tannadice trips were the highlight of the away games for me. Loved the steep terracing and mince rolls in the pub at the top of the road before the game. The Dundee polis were always the worst of the bunch for me. Didn't like us one wee bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck Berry Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Two incidents I remember. Home v Rangers sometime around 82-83 (might have been the LC semi as it was midweek), resulted in a Rangers boy chucked through a chip shop window on Gorgie Road. Second was 87-88 ish, midweek at Parkhead, after the game there was a running battle on the wasteground where our buses were parked, a window got panned in and boys were coming in with cut heads from bricks being chucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said: Two incidents I remember. Home v Rangers sometime around 82-83 (might have been the LC semi as it was midweek), resulted in a Rangers boy chucked through a chip shop window on Gorgie Road. Second was 87-88 ish, midweek at Parkhead, after the game there was a running battle on the wasteground where our buses were parked, a window got panned in and boys were coming in with cut heads from bricks being chucked. If that's the night at Parkhead I'm thinking of there were loads of bus windows smashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, GinRummy said: If that's the night at Parkhead I'm thinking of there were loads of bus windows smashed. That's it, it was chaos for a while as it was obviously dark and the wasteground where the buses were wan't lit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGlynn The Money Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 7 hours ago, hearts151 said: Based on this.. assuming it's the same game based on the score the commentator mentioned and the year.. it does sound like it was pretty tame going by other games in this book lol Love the juxtaposition of wanton, mindless violence and the results of the games that were taking place at the same time. "I came home with a ruptured spleen and my balls hanging by a thread but a lovely Jimmy Bone strike ensured that the boys on the park took all three points back to Tynecastle." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said: That's it, it was chaos for a while as it was obviously dark and the wasteground where the buses were wan't lit. Yeah, I was only 17. Was the last time I was on the Blackburn and Whitburn bus before moving back to Edinburgh. Always remember it. Edited October 25, 2021 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Wallace Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: There was a guy at my school who was clearly shown on the TV - he just stood there with his arms folded ! Was that the game there was say 65 Hearts fans arrested ?? yep 65 or there about All over the Sunday papers Think the headline was Maroon Morons Out there for those that can check these things Sure yrs later there was something like a hundred Hearts fans arrested/charged at Hampden when we played the Sheep Not even a fight in sight Certain the Glasgow Police had to back track and apologise for the over handed behaviour towards our support and many charges were dropped later Sounds funny numbers but im sure i aint that far off the mark with these mental stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Yeah, I was only 17. Was the last time I was on the Blackburn and Whitburn bus before moving back to Edinburgh. Always remember it. I was on the same bus and the same age! had just moved to England as parents had moved south for my dads work and this was one of the few games I made that season. Never actually been back to Parkhead for a Hearts game since that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Scenes like that were fairly common back then. Hearts were nutty as ****. Me and my old boy used to travel with the old Ace of Hearts bus which ran from the old RAF club on Slateford Road (now the Shandon Snooker Centre) and I remember a boy on the bus on the way to Firhill saying "at least if the game is shite, the fight afterwards will make the trip worthwhile". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said: I was on the same bus and the same age! had just moved to England as parents had moved south for my dads work and this was one of the few games I made that season. Never actually been back to Parkhead for a Hearts game since that day. Small world. Was a crazy night alright. Don't really like going to parkhead, been a few times since then though but not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Small world. Was a crazy night alright. Don't really like going to parkhead, been a few times since then though but not many. I refuse to give the OF my money, last time at Ibrox for a Rangers game was maybe 1991-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, Drew Wallace said: Was that the game there was say 65 Hearts fans arrested ?? yep 65 or there about All over the Sunday papers Think the headline was Maroon Morons Out there for those that can check these things Sure yrs later there was something like a hundred Hearts fans arrested/charged at Hampden when we played the Sheep Not even a fight in sight Certain the Glasgow Police had to back track and apologise for the over handed behaviour towards our support and many charges were dropped later Sounds funny numbers but im sure i aint that far off the mark with these mental stats I'm sure that was the 1996 Scottish Cup semi. Plenty of arrests for both sets of fans, and as you said, hardly a fight to be seen. Me and my mates, when getting into queen Street for our train home, we were singing the hearts song. This weegie copper came up to us and said "anymore of that singing from you Edinburgh ^^^^s, you'll be banged up for the effing night". We just said no worries and shut our mouths, we seen what the polis had been like all day. Another guy comes injust behind us, again singing the hearts song, and he got the same welcoming speech from said copper. He said no problem officer and proceeded to board a train that was just about to leave. As he got on, he sticks his head out the door and started singing at full pelt. 2 cops jumped on the train to lift him. Just as the doors were about to close, said guy jumps off from the next set of doors. Train then pulls away with the 2 polis on board, including the nice guy who politely welcomed us to the station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Chuck Berry said: Two incidents I remember. Home v Rangers sometime around 82-83 (might have been the LC semi as it was midweek), resulted in a Rangers boy chucked through a chip shop window on Gorgie Road. Second was 87-88 ish, midweek at Parkhead, after the game there was a running battle on the wasteground where our buses were parked, a window got panned in and boys were coming in with cut heads from bricks being chucked. our bus came back with hardly a window left and our driver got hit by a rock , pure mayhem that night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, been here before said: 😆😆classic👏🏼👏🏼🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 That semi-final against the sheep was the worst display of policing I have ever witnessed. Waiting in the queue to get in a wee laddie buys a Hearts flag then the copper at gate immediately takes it off him rips the cane from it and hands the flag part back to the wee guy. The boy's dad then politely asks the cop why he is allowing the flag seller to sell them yards from where he is standing if they are deemed dangerous with the cane on them. His reply was something like " if you moan again you are getting lifted". By this time the wee lad is crying his eyes out. There was a guy next to us at the Hearts end lifted without any warning for standing in the aisle talking to his mate at half time. I am eternally grateful to my great pal who is no longer with us for grabbing me and keeping me in my seat as I was going to try and let the guy know I would be a witness for him if the case came to court. Without a doubt I would have been lifted at the same time. Utter madness and a very strange day only saved by our last minute winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Chuck Berry said: Two incidents I remember. Home v Rangers sometime around 82-83 (might have been the LC semi as it was midweek), resulted in a Rangers boy chucked through a chip shop window on Gorgie Road. Second was 87-88 ish, midweek at Parkhead, after the game there was a running battle on the wasteground where our buses were parked, a window got panned in and boys were coming in with cut heads from bricks being chucked. I was at that League Cup game. It was a right old carry on walking back to the car my dad had cunningly parked near the rangers buses🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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