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They say you need 8 hours, how many do YOU need? 

 Let's hear about your dreams as well, mine have been feckin mental recently. 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

They say you need 8 hours, how many do YOU need? 

 Let's hear about your dreams as well, mine have been feckin mental recently. 

 

 

 

 

For a person my age I do good, I generally get a good seven hours of sleep. I generally go to bed between 9.40 and 10.00pm, and can get up any time between 4.30am and 5.00am. We spent in life a lot of time travelling in the States by car. I dream often we are on a trip with some old friends and are having problems getting rooms, and spending time in Casinos, there always seems to be someone trying to give us trouble.

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Governor Tarkin

For the past couple of years or so I'lI get about five or six hours maximum - usually broken down into two hour blocks, awake for half an hour or so, then asleep again.

I must admit that it doesn't wipe me out like it used to, but I look ****ing haggard in the mirror.

Probably need around 7 or 8 hours straight to operate at peak.

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I’ve always been a really good sleeper. Get a good 8 hours every night. If I’m tired I go to bed and wake up without an alarm. Usually between half 6 and 7 but recently between 7 and 7.30.

 

I remember most of my dreams including a number of reoccurring dreams. Had one this week involving golf balls. Changes slightly each time but generally I’m on a golf course and looking for my ball in the rough. I find a ball and pick it up only to discover a load more underneath. As I pick these up I discover hundreds of balls under the ground sometimes in bags. 
 

There’s another reoccurring dream that usually comes as part of the golf ball dream where I’m standing on the T but can’t find anywhere to put the ball down in order to hit it. There’s always something obstructing me.

 

Had a cool dream last night where I can take off like a helicopter just by putting my hands out sideways and pushing down. To me in the dream it’s perfectly normal but people in the dream can’t work out how I manage it.

 

I also talk, sing, howl and make weird noises whilst I’m asleep.

 

Theres an app called “dream recorder”.  It records any noises you make whilst asleep and saves them as files to your phone.

 

One night I had over 40 separate recordings!!

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20 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

For the past couple of years or so I'lI get about five or six hours maximum - usually broken down into two hour blocks, awake for half an hour or so, then asleep again.

I must admit that it doesn't wipe me out like it used to, but I look ****ing haggard in the mirror.

Probably need around 7 or 8 hours straight to operate at peak.

This is the problem I am having at the moment and it's killing me. Wake up feeling like shit and the day gets worse from there on in!

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William H. Bonney

I pee 2-3 times during the night due to a kidney disease. Probably get around 5-6 hours if I’m lucky. 
 

I had a dream last night I kept farting at work and some other guy kept taking the blame for it, something he enjoyed. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Furious Styles said:

I pee 2-3 times during the night due to a kidney disease. Probably get around 5-6 hours if I’m lucky. 
 

I had a dream last night I kept farting at work and some other guy kept taking the blame for it, something he enjoyed. 
 

No wonder you're furious!

 

Sleep's interesting, they reckon your sleep pattern is in roughly 90 minute segments, and to try and sleep in 90 minute increments. So 6 hours is good, 7 and a half is good, etc.

 

Waking up from the wrong part of sleep is what makes you feel that groggy way, so in actual fact 7 and a half should leave you feeling better than 8.

 

But we're all different and our cycles are slightly different lengths, so I recommend a sleep clock app. They monitor your movement and breathing during the night and wake you during the light sleep period closest to your getting up time. You wake easily in my experience. 

 

So, to answer the question, either around 6 or around 7 and a half hours, depending on how poshe I'm feeling.

 

By the way, its only a fairly recent thing that we sleep right through the night. Before household lighting 2 sleeps were common, in medieval times it was normal to go to bed early, get a few hours in, wake up for a couple of hours, maybe tend to the fire and try it on with the wife, then away for second sleep.

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maroonlegions

Sleep like a bairn,  always have done.

 

Dreams well.....  Constellations of stars, bright colours, pinks , purples , golden.  images like those captured from NASAs  deep space Hubble telescope. Love it when i wake up, sometimes its there in full detail sometimes its just fragments . One person/entity is always there, no fear from it, feel warmth and kindness.Covered in a sort of golden light. Cant make out any features.

 

Had messages from this entity in my dreams, one i still remember was one on  "reincarnation" and a "karmic", karma record that every soul accumulates in their life. One message was that the "earth" is a "school", not school as we know it but a vast learning and experience physical dimension , one we all need to experience in ordered  to  advance and understand the next non physical dimension. 

 

There are some in the scientific community that  are of the opinion that we share other dimensions around us and that our dimension is just one of others.  Quantum Mechanics is one such discipline that shares this outlook. 

 

What one does in this life and more importantly how one treats others is the main factor of were you go once you depart the mortal coil.  You attract what you become, you make your heaven or hell, "birds of a feather" is a better description. There are NO saviours. Saviours are fir those who shun responsibility for their actions, and for those who are  in essence insecure.

 

Reminds of that scene in that film Ghost when he goes towards the light, while others are dragged down by dark entities, karmar. 

 

Was given a message that i am a "old" soul in a new physical body.

 

Have been through 1000s of reincarnations, in  short my challenge in this life  is against my own "individuality" and to not give a feck what anyone thinks of my view of this life on the dense physical dimension we call earth.      

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33 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

For the past couple of years or so I'lI get about five or six hours maximum - usually broken down into two hour blocks, awake for half an hour or so, then asleep again.

I must admit that it doesn't wipe me out like it used to, but I look ****ing haggard in the mirror.

Probably need around 7 or 8 hours straight to operate at peak.

Sounds like my sleep pattern, not the haggard bit always look good😂, always had nightmares

of folk chasing me, stuck on a bus.

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3 minutes ago, Harry Potter said:

Sounds like my sleep pattern, not the haggard bit always look good😂, always had nightmares

of folk chasing me, stuck on a bus.

 

I've gone from boyish good looks to Zelda from Terrahawks in around a year. :(

 

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maroonlegions

I know some people hear music in their dreams, or even dream of being at gigs ect..

 

This particular song has surfaced more than once, amongst others in my dreams, sometimes just a few lines, sometimes longer, and on several dreams about constellations of stars.

 

 

    

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The Real Maroonblood

Crap sleeper .

For a long period when I could sleep I was always dreaming that I was shooting Japanese soldiers.

Then suddenly it all stopped. Must have killed them all.

I wasn’t even born during the war.

 

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52 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

I've also dreamed about playing for Hearts on many occasions and I'm always struggling to get any power into a kick or header. I have kicked the wife trying to shoot quite a few times (no laughing up the back😀).

played for Hearts once, cup final, lol, scored the winner, no crowd though😦

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I get 5-6 hrs sleep a night. My body clock is ****ed after years of nightshift so I often stay up until 1-2 in the morning get get up between 6 and 7 with the dog. I often have nightmares about being haunted and wake up shouting 😂

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My last dream I was in a plane crash. 

I've also had ones where I've driven off a cliff. 

One dream that seemed very real at the time, I woke up in my bed surrounded by crows. 

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1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

I've gone from boyish good looks to Zelda from Terrahawks in around a year. :(

Not familiar with it.

I assume you mean the horrible one on the left.

 

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55 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

I need 8 hours, I can function on 4-8, but I really need 8 hours or I will be looking to get that sleep back with a nap during the day. 
 

I used to be a terrible insomniac it was due to not being able to shut my mind down from pressures of work etc. However, I despite being a terribly restless sleeper am in a good habit nowadays around sleep. 
 

I go to bed and rise the same time irrespective of weekends of holidays, try to eat well and exercise. I also practice some mindful techniques to empty mind or change thought process. 
 

I have been having this reoccurring dream of running up the snowy hill, but when I get to the top someone there grabs to help me get over the top but then all of sudden let’s me go and start changing the incline of the hill and the depth the snow until all I can do is slide to the bottom of hill. I then wake up.
 

The person at the top of the hill as got a smug evil/look on their face as there plan to get me to the top and turn the incline and snow on and watch me perish. 
 

I know this person but outside of the dream I can’t recall. 
 

Had it 3-4 in last couple of weeks. 

 

Any amateur analysis welcome. 

 

 

 

You maybe need to either stop or reconsider  any old habits that are not beneficial to you.

 

Dreams deal with the subconscious and signs always manifest as "images" in your dreams.

 

Take this one, a man encounters a  crocodile in his dreams, the crocodile wants  to  devours him, he frantically panics and resists.  Now what if that crocodile is a symbolic manifestation of necessary evil, in the sense its telling him to change his old ways , give in and be devoured , easy said than done. 

 

Most dreams deal with symbolism, in fact its how the subconscious operates and communicates with our waking mind ,(consciousnesses).

 

Take the workings of Carl Jung.  His main "archetypes";

 

 

 

"Archetypes are universal, inborn models of people, behaviours, or personalities that play a role in influencing human behaviour. They were introduced by the Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung, who suggested that these archetypes were archaic forms of innate human knowledge passed down from our ancestors.1""

 

"In Jungian psychology, the archetypes represent universal patterns and images that are part of the collective unconscious. Jung believed that we inherit these archetypes much in the way we inherit instinctive patterns of behaviour".

 

Our daily life and our actions and stimuli to it is always affecting our subconscious, in fact our daily thoughts no matter what they are, manifest through in symbolic forms in our dreams, hopes ,fears ect. Understanding the hidden meaning through the symbolism manifesting in our dreams is the key.     

 
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Sawdust Caesar

My last dream was me running, something I haven't been able to do for years due to health problems. I got cramp in my left leg in the dream and woke up to find I actually had cramp in my left leg.  

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I’m one of the lucky people that can sleep for hours if I get the chance but if needed can manage on very little sleep. I’d hate to be the type of person that must have a specific time to get to sleep and get up. This also has the side benefit that I’ve never really suffered from jet lag to any great degree when doing long foreign trips, but I’ve travelled with regular 9-5 people who’ve had a hellish time with it. Though I’m generally asleep before the plane even takes off. 
I am however very prone to hypnic jerks if I nod off in the chair at home. Or in other words when just as you’re getting into a deeper sleep you do the thing where in your dream you feel as if you’re stepping off something higher than expected and shock yourself awake. 

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I need between 8 and 10. I don't get more than 3 hours undisturbed unless it's an afternoon sleep and even then time limits it to 4 hours max.

 

My sleep is basically prohibited by kids and work. My alarm sometimes has to go off before 1am. I sleep at work, on the train, basically anywhere and anytime to try and keep functioning. I've been caught sleeping standing up before.

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4 hours ago, BarneyBattles said:

I've also dreamed about playing for Hearts on many occasions and I'm always struggling to get any power into a kick or header. I have kicked the wife trying to shoot quite a few times (no laughing up the back😀).

My ex tried to wake me from a nightmare years ago, I only just missed her with a haymaker, thinking she was a werewolf.

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5 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Crap sleeper .

For a long period when I could sleep I was always dreaming that I was shooting Japanese soldiers.

Then suddenly it all stopped. Must have killed them all.

I wasn’t even born during the war.

 

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About 7 hours for me.  Up once nightly for a slash, usually around an hour or so before getting up for the day.

 

Dreams seem very vivid at the time, most have been forgotten by the time I’m fully awake.

 

 

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I've read for a good nights sleep you need 7 hours (I always thought 8 but it seems 8 is too much). I normally sleep 5-6 hours. I don't seem to dream as often as I used to. Last dream in had involved the cat. I had quite a bad dream a short while ago where I was being chased by an unseen assailant to the point I could feel his breathe on the back of my neck. I woke feeling quite shaken and out of breathe as if it happened for real. 

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Like Marvin said 7 hours is peak for me (39yr). I rarely get that to be honest. I usually kick the arse out it on a Saturday (at home) and go to bed at 2030 on a Sunday. Which means Monday/Tuesday after the worst nights for sleeping

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Hard to say for me, usually in bed by 11pm but can take a while to get to sleep. On the weekends, or if the kids are away, I feel like I could sleep until midday easily. Just feel physically shattered all the time. 
 

As for dreams, if it’s not my estranged family trying to hurt my kids I’m usually dreaming of playing fives again - something I used to do regularly but can’t anymore. 

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When im on back shift I sleep well, too well actually. 10 hours, sometimes more. When im on early starts Im lucky if i get 5 hours, usually broken several times as I always dream ive missed my alarm and wake up. 

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Sleep wise I usually stay up til 4am and start work at 8 (although today has evidently been much worse... work will be joyous in an hour or so), and then spend the weekends with a long lie til 11 or so.

 

Been that way since I was a kid. If I need to get up early on weekends it's a nightmare, as I find I still can't sleep til 4am the next day regardless of how tired I am. 

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1 minute ago, jambostuart said:

Sleep wise I usually stay up til 4am and start work at 8 (although today has evidently been much worse... work will be joyous in an hour or so), and then spend the weekends with a long lie til 11 or so.

 

Been that way since I was a kid. If I need to get up early on weekends it's a nightmare, as I find I still can't sleep til 4am the next day regardless of how tired I am. 

That sounds horrendous.

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2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

That sounds horrendous.

 

It can be like, especially the hours of lying in bed with everything off trying desperately to sleep, but I think my body has gotten used to it now. Absolutely will hit me hard when I'm older I think, but I still manage to work at a relatively normal level and thankfully my job doesn't require I drive or operate heavy machinery!

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4 minutes ago, jambostuart said:

 

It can be like, especially the hours of lying in bed with everything off trying desperately to sleep, but I think my body has gotten used to it now. Absolutely will hit me hard when I'm older I think, but I still manage to work at a relatively normal level and thankfully my job doesn't require I drive or operate heavy machinery!

You sound pretty positive considering what you have to deal with.

Good luck.

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19 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

I need 8 hours, I can function on 4-8, but I really need 8 hours or I will be looking to get that sleep back with a nap during the day. 
 

I used to be a terrible insomniac it was due to not being able to shut my mind down from pressures of work etc. However, I despite being a terribly restless sleeper am in a good habit nowadays around sleep. 
 

I go to bed and rise the same time irrespective of weekends of holidays, try to eat well and exercise. I also practice some mindful techniques to empty mind or change thought process. 
 

I have been having this reoccurring dream of running up the snowy hill, but when I get to the top someone there grabs to help me get over the top but then all of sudden let’s me go and start changing the incline of the hill and the depth the snow until all I can do is slide to the bottom of hill. I then wake up.
 

The person at the top of the hill as got a smug evil/look on their face as there plan to get me to the top and turn the incline and snow on and watch me perish. 
 

I know this person but outside of the dream I can’t recall. 
 

Had it 3-4 in last couple of weeks. 

 

Any amateur analysis welcome. 

 

 

:interehjrling:

 

Oedipus complex imo.

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9 hours ago, Jamie Walker Tash said:

When im on early starts Im lucky if i get 5 hours, usually broken several times as I always dream ive missed my alarm and wake up. 

 

I've done that, jumped out of bed started to get ready to realise its its 3.30am and your alarm won't sound for a further 2 hours yet.  :(

 

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Had some weird dreams last night as I suspected I might.

 

Got involved in a sniper V sniper contest as part of some weird conflict. We exchanged shots but neither could hit the other.

 

A truce was called and we were allowed into the enemy compound for talks. Table was set for dinner and we were made to feel very welcome. I needed the bathroom and was directed out to another part of the compound.

 

It was evident they were planning a celebration as there was a DJ and bottles of champagne. A huge pile of PD 5’s and mobile phones.

 

I realised it was a set up and we were getting ambushed so legged it back to warn our team. We decided to call in long range bombers and blow their compound to bits. Looking up to the sky we could select our targets visually. Then a load of birds flew over and our guys started shooting them rather than the bad guys.

 

Dream ended then. 

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Went to sleep at 3am, woke up at 5am after a dream about cats trying to kill everyone. I managed to kill one with a homemade shotgun, then a white wolf appeared, shot it twice with my last bullets and ran back to the castle.

loads of folk milling about almost like it's a wedding, I'm screaming at them to get inside but they're not bothered. chucked my shotgun into the wolfs gob and woke up. 

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13 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

Went to sleep at 3am, woke up at 5am after a dream about cats trying to kill everyone. I managed to kill one with a homemade shotgun, then a white wolf appeared, shot it twice with my last bullets and ran back to the castle.

loads of folk milling about almost like it's a wedding, I'm screaming at them to get inside but they're not bothered. chucked my shotgun into the wolfs gob and woke up. 


Thats a beauty!!!

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All roads lead to Gorgie

I feel best after about 7-8 hours solid sleep but right now I seem to be waking up a lot more around 4am and finding my mind racing a bit and it takes a while to get back to sleep. It's probably mostly to do with the situation we all face right now. 

A lot of nostalgic dreams happening for me right now with people long gone appearing in them rather than the scary bad situation ones. 

I used have occasional dreams where I would be working in somewhere really exciting like Alaska, I don't seem to get those now sadly. Even Dreams have travel bans in place it seems.

 

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5 hours ago, Marvin said:

 

I've done that, jumped out of bed started to get ready to realise its its 3.30am and your alarm won't sound for a further 2 hours yet.  :(

 

Strange thing is I've never missed my alarm but somehow have fear of doing so.

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My nephew reckons he has lucid dreams where he is aware he is dreaming and is able to control what he does and what happens in his dreams.

 

Ive not tested the practicality or the process which involves counting the fingers on your hands many times during the day. Obviously the number is 10 unless you have had an unfortunate accident.

 

Apparently doing this a number of times during the day tricks your brain into doing the same whilst dreaming.

 

When in dream state your brain confirms something (numbers of fingers on hands 10) as correct from your awaken state you begin to lucid dream and are in fact able to control it fully.

 

Im no expert on the matter but it sounds plausible?

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10 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said:

My nephew reckons he has lucid dreams where he is aware he is dreaming and is able to control what he does and what happens in his dreams.

 

Ive not tested the practicality or the process which involves counting the fingers on your hands many times during the day. Obviously the number is 10 unless you have had an unfortunate accident.

 

Apparently doing this a number of times during the day tricks your brain into doing the same whilst dreaming.

 

When in dream state your brain confirms something (numbers of fingers on hands 10) as correct from your awaken state you begin to lucid dream and are in fact able to control it fully.

 

Im no expert on the matter but it sounds plausible?

 

I've been able to control my dreams in the past, can't say I ever counted my fingers during the day though. 

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1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said:

My nephew reckons he has lucid dreams where he is aware he is dreaming and is able to control what he does and what happens in his dreams.

 

Ive not tested the practicality or the process which involves counting the fingers on your hands many times during the day. Obviously the number is 10 unless you have had an unfortunate accident.

 

Apparently doing this a number of times during the day tricks your brain into doing the same whilst dreaming.

 

When in dream state your brain confirms something (numbers of fingers on hands 10) as correct from your awaken state you begin to lucid dream and are in fact able to control it fully.

 

Im no expert on the matter but it sounds plausible?

Sounds quite mad. However, I used to have dreams where I could fly and I was conciously making myself do so. Others where I've realised I was dreaming and I've chose to run around the street copping a feel of as many tits and ******s as I can. 

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2 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

I've been able to control my dreams in the past, can't say I ever counted my fingers during the day though. 


Neither have I however apparently it’s the trigger mechanism to enable you to enter lucid dream state.

 

 

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My mate had a job with NetworkRail.     He said he a was a great sleeper.

 

As for me.  If I wake up in the morning I am happy.  If the bed is still dry, it is a bonus!

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5 hours ago, Vlad Magic said:

My nephew reckons he has lucid dreams where he is aware he is dreaming and is able to control what he does and what happens in his dreams.

 

Ive not tested the practicality or the process which involves counting the fingers on your hands many times during the day. Obviously the number is 10 unless you have had an unfortunate accident.

 

Apparently doing this a number of times during the day tricks your brain into doing the same whilst dreaming.

 

When in dream state your brain confirms something (numbers of fingers on hands 10) as correct from your awaken state you begin to lucid dream and are in fact able to control it fully.

 

Im no expert on the matter but it sounds plausible?

 

I've heard when walking passed objects you see every day, ask "is this real?" Like counting your fingers its supposed to enable you to control what happens. Have never tested this theory though.

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44 minutes ago, Marvin said:

 

I've heard when walking passed objects you see every day, ask "is this real?" Like counting your fingers its supposed to enable you to control what happens. Have never tested this theory though.


Very similar theory.

 

All about training the brain to ask itself is this a dream or is it reality.

 

 

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