gashauskis9 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 **** me, what a player this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboj Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Next in a long line of English wonderkids who look good and then achieve mediocrity by age 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, jamboj said: Next in a long line of English wonderkids who look good and then achieve mediocrity by age 22 Haven’t seen an English player kick a ball like that since Rooney in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwaterwoodwelder Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Sign him up. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 He's pretty good. England's fronlline, Sterling, Kane, Greenwood, Sancho and Foden in behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa-mundial Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 England have an abundance of unbelievable talent coming through right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cruyff said: He's pretty good. England's fronlline, Sterling, Kane, Greenwood, Sancho and Foden in behind. Absolutely, with Rashford to come off the bench as well. Just a shame their Keeper and Centre Halves are utter horseshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizla Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: Absolutely, with Rashford to come off the bench as well. Just a shame their Keeper and Centre Halves are utter horseshit. Wait till Pope gets the call then they will have a very good keeper between the sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, gashauskis9 said: Absolutely, with Rashford to come off the bench as well. Just a shame their Keeper and Centre Halves are utter horseshit. They don't need defenders. Could go 3-2-5 just need to get Kevin Keegan out of retirement. Henderson Maguire Trent Chilwell Dele Alli Foden Sancho Sterling Greenwood. Rashford Kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, Cruyff said: They don't need defenders. Could go 3-2-5 just need to get Kevin Keegan out of retirement. Henderson Maguire Trent Chilwell Dele Alli Foden Sancho Sterling Greenwood. Rashford Kane Dele is rank but apart from that some amount of talent Greenwood looks absolutely minted a super composed finisher he is going to be a star for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cruyff said: They don't need defenders. Could go 3-2-5 just need to get Kevin Keegan out of retirement. Henderson Maguire Trent Chilwell Dele Alli Foden Sancho Sterling Greenwood. Rashford Kane Dele Alli could be replaced by James Maddison as he is now the weak link of that team. The last golden generation were nothing special at international level.This generation should do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rizla said: Wait till Pope gets the call then they will have a very good keeper between the sticks. Was great when Jesus scored against Pope a few months back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizla Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: Was great when Jesus scored against Pope a few months back. Pope would never dream of stopping a Jesus thunderbolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, benny said: Dele Alli could be replaced by James Maddison as he is now the weak link of that team. The last golden generation were nothing special at international level.This generation should do better. The lad at Everton (Davies) looks the part as well. Would expect him to be in Southgate’s thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 England's talent is crazy, wish we could get 10% of the young talent they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_74 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said: England's talent is crazy, wish we could get 10% of the young talent they have. Funny thing is, if Scottish Football was run competently we probably could. Roughly ten percent of the population of England, so why not. Big problem is the competence thing I mentioned though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Greenwood, Sancho and Foden. 3 world class talents coming through at England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, Cruyff said: They don't need defenders. Could go 3-2-5 just need to get Kevin Keegan out of retirement. Henderson Maguire Trent Chilwell Dele Alli Foden Sancho Sterling Greenwood. Rashford Kane Alli would struggle to get in the Scotland side. 😂 The guy Saka at Arsenal looks to be useful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I thought Alli was one of their superstars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwaterwoodwelder Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Everything he hits is a rocket. Keepers have no chance normally with this young star. Im a Man U 2nd team armchair fan and it’s exciting watching them play at the moment. still a few seasons behind Liverpool and City unfortunately but they hopefully get 3rd next season and start to catch up on the top two. next season is going to be a cracker in the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 And England will still trip up. Bearing in mind when I criticise its top-ish level we’re talking about. I think Kane is a poser. Never an England captain. Great finisher but isn’t combative, never rolls the sleeves up and lifts his team.(at Spurs) Rashford is another who can look indifferent one game then a world beater the next. They are all too inconsistent. I do think the lads Greenwood, Sancho and Foden have a grit about them that’ll ally well with their ability. They may well become players who can genuinely make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said: Alli would struggle to get in the Scotland side. 😂 The guy Saka at Arsenal looks to be useful too. Great shout re Saka. No danger Arsenal will be able to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Mount and Cantwell can be added too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, copa-mundial said: England have an abundance of unbelievable talent coming through right now. Unfortunately. Foden is the best midfielder Ive seen for a while - up there with iniesta and xavi (if he continues) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: Mount and Cantwell can be added too. Yeah there is so much talent. No mention yet of Hodson-Odoi, Wan-Bissaka, Rice who are England capped players under 23. You then have other talented young players such as Rhian Brewster (on loan at Swansea from Liverpool, who has scored 8 goals in 16 in the Championship.) Curtis Jones who looks very skillful when he has come on for Liverpool, Max Aarons who looks good at Norwich, Dwight McNeil who is one of Burnley's best players, Ryan Sessegnon may not have had as big a season in his first year at Tottenham but has made 132 appearances at the age of 20. So much riches, and they are still taking Scottish youngsters into the English youth teams, greedy bassas 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, jambo_74 said: Funny thing is, if Scottish Football was run competently we probably could. Roughly ten percent of the population of England, so why not. Big problem is the competence thing I mentioned though.... You are spot on with this. So frustrating. We’ve got the raw talent up here. Look at Billy Gilmour, not a chance he’d be at that level if he was still up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Debut 4 said: And England will still trip up. Bearing in mind when I criticise its top-ish level we’re talking about. I think Kane is a poser. Never an England captain. Great finisher but isn’t combative, never rolls the sleeves up and lifts his team.(at Spurs) Rashford is another who can look indifferent one game then a world beater the next. They are all too inconsistent. I do think the lads Greenwood, Sancho and Foden have a grit about them that’ll ally well with their ability. They may well become players who can genuinely make a difference. I agree with you about Kane and Rashford. Great strikers in their own way, but also have deficiencies as you highlight. Neither of them compares to Shearer, who was a consistent top class finisher who could also more than stand up for himself against defenders, he was never going to be bullied out of a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 hours ago, LeftBack said: Unfortunately. Foden is the best midfielder Ive seen for a while - up there with iniesta and xavi (if he continues) He really is special. Helps having Guardiola as your coach right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, RobNox said: I agree with you about Kane and Rashford. Great strikers in their own way, but also have deficiencies as you highlight. Neither of them compares to Shearer, who was a consistent top class finisher who could also more than stand up for himself against defenders, he was never going to be bullied out of a game. Definitely. I think a lot of these players benefit from the EPL hype and propaganda. Shearer was a terrific centre. Had everything. Edited July 10, 2020 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Cruyff said: They don't need defenders. Could go 3-2-5 just need to get Kevin Keegan out of retirement. Henderson Maguire Trent Chilwell Dele Alli Foden Sancho Sterling Greenwood. Rashford Kane Why is Trent Alexander-Arnold simply referred to as "Trent"? Why don't we just refer to Kane as "Harry", or would that get confusing with Harry Maguire? Edited July 10, 2020 by Jambos_1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambos_1874 said: Why is Trent Alexander-Arnold simply referred to as "Trent"? Why don't we just refer to Kane as "Harry", or would that get confusing with Harry Maguire? it is easier to say Trent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, RobNox said: I agree with you about Kane and Rashford. Great strikers in their own way, but also have deficiencies as you highlight. Neither of them compares to Shearer, who was a consistent top class finisher who could also more than stand up for himself against defenders, he was never going to be bullied out of a game. that is potentially why the delay to the euros might have hindered englands chances. yes they say that delaying it will mean kane and rashford will be fit for it. i think if they were not fit they would have played ings who works hard for the team and rolls up his sleeves and is a great finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Debut 4 said: Definitely. I think a lot of these players benefit from the EPL hype and propaganda. Shearer was a terrific centre. Had everything. Worst example of the EPL hype recently is Bruno Fernandez, very good player but every single commentator is trying their hardest to ride the boy. Last night he conned a penalty and all they could talk about was the brilliant way he stood on the ball before turning into the defender. there were also quite a few occasions where he could have played a simple ball on the ground in behind the full back for wan bisakka to run onto but instead played a chipped pass over the full back which by the time it got to wan bisakka and he controlled it then the full back was across to cover, no mention of it being the wrong pass just more creaming over Fernandez who is seemingly going to have ManU challenging for the title next year all by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ribble said: Worst example of the EPL hype recently is Bruno Fernandez, very good player but every single commentator is trying their hardest to ride the boy. Last night he conned a penalty and all they could talk about was the brilliant way he stood on the ball before turning into the defender. there were also quite a few occasions where he could have played a simple ball on the ground in behind the full back for wan bisakka to run onto but instead played a chipped pass over the full back which by the time it got to wan bisakka and he controlled it then the full back was across to cover, no mention of it being the wrong pass just more creaming over Fernandez who is seemingly going to have ManU challenging for the title next year all by himself. Fernandez has completely changed that United team. The form since he arrived is no coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Fernandez has completely changed that United team. The form since he arrived is no coincidence. I'm not denying that he's a very good player, just that the creaming over him is over the top and had united not been so bad with so many disinterested, average players in their side before Fernandez arrived then he wouldn't have stood out anywhere near as much. Is it that hard to improve on/look better than the likes of Herrera and Mata? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ribble said: Worst example of the EPL hype recently is Bruno Fernandez, very good player but every single commentator is trying their hardest to ride the boy. Last night he conned a penalty and all they could talk about was the brilliant way he stood on the ball before turning into the defender. there were also quite a few occasions where he could have played a simple ball on the ground in behind the full back for wan bisakka to run onto but instead played a chipped pass over the full back which by the time it got to wan bisakka and he controlled it then the full back was across to cover, no mention of it being the wrong pass just more creaming over Fernandez who is seemingly going to have ManU challenging for the title next year all by himself. Lol....I’ve been saying things like that too. Gary Neville sounds like he wants to pump any player that does something brilliant. Martin Tyler needs to pack in. He’s just become so boring, unexciting and has this air of smugness in the way he acts all calm with his commentary. Never gets remotely excited at goals or build up play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ribble said: I'm not denying that he's a very good player, just that the creaming over him is over the top and had united not been so bad with so many disinterested, average players in their side before Fernandez arrived then he wouldn't have stood out anywhere near as much. Is it that hard to improve on/look better than the likes of Herrera and Mata? Bit harsh on those two tbh. Mata is obviously a bit over the hill and I thought Herrera was a very good player for United. FWIW I'd say Fernandez is one of the best midfielders in the Premier League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 The English, although they have a much larger pool to pick from looked at their youth set up years ago and are now reaping the benefits of updating and modernizing their academy system at the national level. Sadly it looks like only a matter of time before they are seriiously challenging for a world cup. The Scots not so much. Too busy ensuring the status quo at league level is kept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, DG_HMFC said: He really is special. Helps having Guardiola as your coach right enough. True... At 44 do you think pep would help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Jambos_1874 said: Why is Trent Alexander-Arnold simply referred to as "Trent"? Why don't we just refer to Kane as "Harry", or would that get confusing with Harry Maguire? Is it not obvious? He'd have ****ed up my shape. What a silly question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Fernandez has completely changed that United team. The form since he arrived is no coincidence. Totally agree, he's different class. He's dragged them up a level. Now they've got Pogba, Martial etc playing with confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Totally agree, he's different class. He's dragged them up a level. Now they've got Pogba, Martial etc playing with confidence. With the right additions, United will certainly be in the mix next season. Definitely need a CB, holding midfielder and a wide player. Have to admit, I like what Solskjaer is doing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo9 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 16 hours ago, gashauskis9 said: Haven’t seen an English player kick a ball like that since Rooney in his prime. This 100%. He can hit a ball just as clean on either foot. Still think Foden is the one who'll do the best out of this current crop of English players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: Is it not obvious? He'd have ****ed up my shape. What a silly question. Ha ha fair dos. Just find it so cringey when I hear them refer to "Trent' on match of the day etc, probably because of all of the cringey pally "Doddsy", "Thommo" and "Mikey" you hear in Scotland which I associate with the small-mindedness of Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 19 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: England's talent is crazy, wish we could get 10% of the young talent they have. I've said it before, but I blame Doncaster. His one job is to secure a decent TV deal and he can't do that. The result of that is that our youngsters don't want to hang around. At 18/19 when they are looking promising some English team comes along and swallows them up and thats the last we see of them till their 23 and get released with their development having been stunted or even regressed. If the SPFL could secure more investment in the league we might see more clubs able to afford to hang onto the kids that extra year or two to maximise their development that little bit more. The knock on effect this would have on our national team would be huge. England are also not scared about giving the most talented kids recognition at International level. Us on the other hand...Gilmour is still waiting. We lost Harry Souttar to Australia.. Who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Thought this was a scarf above head moment😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deodato Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 09/07/2020 at 21:06, gashauskis9 said: **** me, what a player this is. The real deal. No question. Echo the comments above, England's international team is going to improve through competition for places. Where did they finish last time round? Semi-finalists. Next time ... er, now it gets scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 10/07/2020 at 09:17, AlimOzturk said: it is easier to say Trent TAA would work as easily, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 09/07/2020 at 23:45, jamboinglasgow said: Yeah there is so much talent. No mention yet of Hodson-Odoi, Wan-Bissaka, Rice who are England capped players under 23. You then have other talented young players such as Rhian Brewster (on loan at Swansea from Liverpool, who has scored 8 goals in 16 in the Championship.) Curtis Jones who looks very skillful when he has come on for Liverpool, Max Aarons who looks good at Norwich, Dwight McNeil who is one of Burnley's best players, Ryan Sessegnon may not have had as big a season in his first year at Tottenham but has made 132 appearances at the age of 20. So much riches, and they are still taking Scottish youngsters into the English youth teams, greedy bassas 🤪 That's the only hope for talented young Scots with real desire to be the best they can be. Staying in Scotland will ruin their careers sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: TAA would work as easily, no? Yeah suppose. As long as you know who they are on about don’t think it really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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