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13 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Presume with the UK Government support package for sport announced today including Leagues 1 and 2, that money will be coming from the Scottish Government soon. 

 

BBC report says the EFL are excluded. Football money starts at the National League level.

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44 minutes ago, JamboGraham said:

 

BBC report says the EFL are excluded. Football money starts at the National League level.


The Scottish Gov’ will get to decide how to distribute. 

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3 hours ago, Last Laff said:

The Scottish Gov’ will get to decide how to distribute. 

 

Indeed but the poster suggested that League 1 and 2 was to receive UK government funding which is not correct based on reports today.

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Cormack wittering on about a plan for fans return again, he doesn't want govt. handouts. 

 

Try not spending 90 pence of every pound you earn on wages.

Try cutting your squad.

Try planning for the covid tsunami in March not ****ing November.

Try not expelling the third biggest club in Scotland from your corrupt covid league.

Try voting for reconstruction when it mattered.

Try stopping your players going out on the piss when infection rates in Aberdeen were peaking.

 

Of course we needed a plan Cormack, but a joint plan with all Scottish clubs could have happened 8 months ago but you joined the "looking after our own interests" group. 

 

Do one.

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, HMFC01 said:

Cormack on sportsound. Talking about debt and no fans to recover. 


Maybe they can get their fans to pledge the value of their Scottish cup final tickets. 

£0.00 will go a long way. 

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8 hours ago, SE16 3LN said:

Cormack wittering on about a plan for fans return again, he doesn't want govt. handouts. 

 

Try not spending 90 pence of every pound you earn on wages.

Try cutting your squad.

Try planning for the covid tsunami in March not ****ing November.

Try not expelling the third biggest club in Scotland from your corrupt covid league.

Try voting for reconstruction when it mattered.

Try stopping your players going out on the piss when infection rates in Aberdeen were peaking.

 

Of course we needed a plan Cormack, but a joint plan with all Scottish clubs could have happened 8 months ago but you joined the "looking after our own interests" group. 

 

Do one.

 

 

 

 

 

Lots of valid points there. I look forward to Dick Gordon raising them in a hard-hitting (stop sniggering at the back) interview with the Aberdeen supremo.

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Scotland U21 players and staff isolating after three positive Covid-19 cases - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55028971?fbclid=IwAR1ehR2r90JbIwB02vpDXine5bBAd6Y81_Th6v3Sv6dmxHqU4FnvZYdFvK8

 

11 U21 players needing to self isolate, 3 positive cases.

 

On Sportsound on Monday, Darryl Broadfoot was saying how much team spirit in the full team camp because the all players moved their chairs together for the night, that no doubt had been set socially distant.

 

Clubs going mental with the SFA apparently however, I bet some of the clubs going radge also aren't following protocols properly in and around their own dressing rooms.

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Couple of Motherwell players missing their game today in line with protocols.

 

1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said:

Turnbull of celtic tests positive - hope Mayo who played against us last night was ok !

 

Was just going to say joeblack on twitter had posted a Celtic player had been sent home from their Edinburgh hotel.

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6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Turnbull of celtic tests positive - hope Mayo who played against us last night was ok !

Apparently has tested negative.

 

However, some of the other players tested negative a few days ago, but on return tested positive.

 

Could be incubation, could be the NHS test which is of a higher standard?

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SPFL clubs could go bust in January, warns Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy, as the Scottish government is again urged to offer financial help. 
 

gutted for them , NOT .

 

totally against govt money being used to bail out clubs/chairmen 

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On 21/11/2020 at 14:19, neilnunb said:

Couple of Motherwell players missing their game today in line with protocols.

 

 

Was just going to say joeblack on twitter had posted a Celtic player had been sent home from their Edinburgh hotel.

Joe Black is a know-nothing Rangers twat. Followed him for the arbitration and literally everything he said would happen, didn't. 

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29 minutes ago, Sarah O said:

Joe Black is a know-nothing Rangers twat. Followed him for the arbitration and literally everything he said would happen, didn't. 

 

 

Tbf, that was pretty much like on here 😁

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5 hours ago, 3fingersreid said:

SPFL clubs could go bust in January, warns Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy, as the Scottish government is again urged to offer financial help. 
 

gutted for them , NOT .

 

totally against govt money being used to bail out clubs/chairmen 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55073217

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says football cannot be treated "in isolation" amid the SPFL's renewed attempts to hasten the return of fans.

Ms Sturgeon was responding to league chief executive Neil Doncaster's request for an emergency meeting.

Amid different Covid regulations in each UK country, England will permit up to 4,000 spectators at outdoor events in lowest-risk areas next month.

Only 300 are permitted in stadia in Scotland's two lowest lockdown tiers.

Sturgeon said: "However much Neil Doncaster, for reasons I understand, is only looking at football, we can't see any sector or any part of society in isolation because there is only so much we can do overall to keep the virus under control."

Doncaster had warned the lock-out of supporters will "sound the death knell" for some clubs if it continues.

He added: "Every major club in Scotland has very detailed, well-founded plans in place for safely returning fans back to stadiums.

"If it's good enough for English fans, it must be good enough for Scottish fans.

"If the First Minister refuses to allow football fans all over Scotland to watch their beloved teams in carefully-regulated, limited numbers, complete with track and trace, she will have to explain to them the clinical difference between Scottish fans and English fans."

 

...oooo tough talk from dungcatser! Mind you, he's only spouting what lawwell tells him to.

 

Are they thick? I mean, when fans are allowed to return it will be in reduced numbers - no profit there. And those that are permitted to return will be ST holders who have already paid - no additional profit there. In fact, there will be overheads to cover eg. policing, stewards etc. - no profit there... in fact, allowing fans back will incur costs to clubs. We ALL know this! So what is duncaster/lawwell after here? Do they really believe that ALL fans should be able to fill all stadia throughout Scotland!?... because that is the ONLY way clubs will turn any sort of profit. 

 

FTHSPFL FTSFA FTH

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"If the First Minister refuses to allow football fans all over Scotland to watch their beloved teams in carefully-regulated, limited numbers, complete with track and trace, she will have to explain to them the clinical difference between Scottish fans and English fans."

 

That is Lawell  100% talking, All the rhetoric from donkey has never been that agressive.  It stinks of Clarifucashun.

 

Here is the diference:  Weegies, celtic flavoured ones in particular

 

But in all seriousness, England are idiots if they go all relaxed.  its 5 times worse in Hull than Glasgow and in the north east 10 worse than West Lothian, which is in L4. 

 

Doncaster:  We demand an urgent talk...NOW

FM:  ehhhh  Naw,  Frank get the door!

Lawell:  what did she say? did you tell her what I said for  yiz tae say?

Doncaster:  I did I demanded urgent talks:

Lawell: D.O.B!

 

 

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On 20/11/2020 at 11:33, SE16 3LN said:

Cormack wittering on about a plan for fans return again, he doesn't want govt. handouts. 

 

Try not spending 90 pence of every pound you earn on wages.

Try cutting your squad.

Try planning for the covid tsunami in March not ****ing November.

Try not expelling the third biggest club in Scotland from your corrupt covid league.

Try voting for reconstruction when it mattered.

Try stopping your players going out on the piss when infection rates in Aberdeen were peaking.

 

Of course we needed a plan Cormack, but a joint plan with all Scottish clubs could have happened 8 months ago but you joined the "looking after our own interests" group. 

 

Do one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts. 

 

 

You missed " do one, prick". 

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1 hour ago, Rogue Daddy said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55073217

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says football cannot be treated "in isolation" amid the SPFL's renewed attempts to hasten the return of fans.

Ms Sturgeon was responding to league chief executive Neil Doncaster's request for an emergency meeting.

Amid different Covid regulations in each UK country, England will permit up to 4,000 spectators at outdoor events in lowest-risk areas next month.

Only 300 are permitted in stadia in Scotland's two lowest lockdown tiers.

Sturgeon said: "However much Neil Doncaster, for reasons I understand, is only looking at football, we can't see any sector or any part of society in isolation because there is only so much we can do overall to keep the virus under control."

Doncaster had warned the lock-out of supporters will "sound the death knell" for some clubs if it continues.

He added: "Every major club in Scotland has very detailed, well-founded plans in place for safely returning fans back to stadiums.

"If it's good enough for English fans, it must be good enough for Scottish fans.

"If the First Minister refuses to allow football fans all over Scotland to watch their beloved teams in carefully-regulated, limited numbers, complete with track and trace, she will have to explain to them the clinical difference between Scottish fans and English fans."

 

...oooo tough talk from dungcatser! Mind you, he's only spouting what lawwell tells him to.

 

Are they thick? I mean, when fans are allowed to return it will be in reduced numbers - no profit there. And those that are permitted to return will be ST holders who have already paid - no additional profit there. In fact, there will be overheads to cover eg. policing, stewards etc. - no profit there... in fact, allowing fans back will incur costs to clubs. We ALL know this! So what is duncaster/lawwell after here? Do they really believe that ALL fans should be able to fill all stadia throughout Scotland!?... because that is the ONLY way clubs will turn any sort of profit. 

 

FTHSPFL FTSFA FTH

 

0_Celtic-v-Rangers-Ladbrokes-Scottish-Pr

 

This is the problem: a couple of hundred filth outside the ground, social distancing not even considered, and Glasgow's finest just stand there and watch.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rogue Daddy said:

 

"If the First Minister refuses to allow football fans all over Scotland to watch their beloved teams in carefully-regulated, limited numbers, complete with track and trace, she will have to explain to them the clinical difference between Scottish fans and English fans."

 

Sounds like Doncaster is trying to threaten the government, that's bound to go down well. That shit might work with the likes of St Mirren and Brechin, but with politicians, not so much.

Celtic started this with tens of millions in the bank, but will have burned through most of it by now. Obviously squealing like a pig is beneath Lawwell, but it must be getting serious if he's having to send his sock puppet out to do his bidding.

 

:pleasing:

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56 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

"If the First Minister refuses to allow football fans all over Scotland to watch their beloved teams in carefully-regulated, limited numbers, complete with track and trace, she will have to explain to them the clinical difference between Scottish fans and English fans."

 

That is Lawell  100% talking, All the rhetoric from donkey has never been that agressive.  It stinks of Clarifucashun.

 

Here is the diference:  Weegies, celtic flavoured ones in particular

 

But in all seriousness, England are idiots if they go all relaxed.  its 5 times worse in Hull than Glasgow and in the north east 10 worse than West Lothian, which is in L4. 

 

Doncaster:  We demand an urgent talk...NOW

FM:  ehhhh  Naw,  Frank get the door!

Lawell:  what did she say? did you tell her what I said for  yiz tae say?

Doncaster:  I did I demanded urgent talks:

Lawell: D.O.B!

 

 

The bit missed from liewell/Doncaster is the allowance of fans into games in England is tier dependant. Up to 4000 in lowest tier and up to 2000 in second tier. None in highest tier. Iirc in Scotland the two lowest tiers can have fans so some differences but still similar

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If Nicola ever does agree to meet with dungcatcher the first question she should ask is why do you think SPL clubs should get a government handout when they've spent thousands(millions in some cases) in transfer fees 

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Reads exactly like one of Liewell’s rousing speeches.

 

Can’t wait for some of these shithouse teams to start going bust. 

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30 minutes ago, Zico said:

Reads exactly like one of Liewell’s rousing speeches.

 

Can’t wait for some of these shithouse teams to start going bust. 

Cancer on the game is Law well. I might have said that before

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They were too busy with their other scheming, during the summer, to give a thought to the possibility of Covid knocking out spectators attending for the entire season.

They could have reconstructed the league divisions, with clubs mothballing if they thought it best for their circumstances. The rest could have made up a couple of bigger divisions, with less games so more time to deal with postponements due to testing issues.

Did the Premiership clubs really think that they were going to have a normal season, with full grounds for the visits of the bigoted duo? Equally, did the Championship clubs really think that Hearts fans would be coming to fill their grounds?

 Their spite and determination to hurt 3 clubs, and show nothing but self interest, blinded them to the possibility of what is coming to them.

We hardly see Doncaster these days. What he doing to justify his inflated salary for being a secretary?

As for Petrie and Dempster’s JRG 😂

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1 hour ago, The Treasurer said:

If Nicola ever does agree to meet with dungcatcher the first question she should ask is why do you think SPL clubs should get a government handout when they've spent thousands(millions in some cases) in transfer fees 

It's just not justifiable - agree completely with your point and the worst if it is certain clubs have investing heavily during Covid - why should the taxpayer be compensating clubs for taking that risk?  The games governance has been completely inept which is another reason the taxpayer shouldn't be footing the bill.    It would piss me off if Hibs and Dundee Utd in particular received a handout.

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Doncaster must have something in his contract whereby he has to say something. 

 

He's not coming across very well. Is it his failure if fans don't get back in? 

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22 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

They were too busy with their other scheming, during the summer, to give a thought to the possibility of Covid knocking out spectators attending for the entire season.

They could have reconstructed the league divisions, with clubs mothballing if they thought it best for their circumstances. The rest could have made up a couple of bigger divisions, with less games so more time to deal with postponements due to testing issues.

Did the Premiership clubs really think that they were going to have a normal season, with full grounds for the visits of the bigoted duo? Equally, did the Championship clubs really think that Hearts fans would be coming to fill their grounds?

 Their spite and determination to hurt 3 clubs, and show nothing but self interest, blinded them to the possibility of what is coming to them.

We hardly see Doncaster these days. What he doing to justify his inflated salary for being a secretary?

As for Petrie and Dempster’s JRG 😂


I think there was a strong belief fans would be back in some way by October, hence why the old firm got pushed back as late as possible. 

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3 hours ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

"If the First Minister refuses to allow football fans all over Scotland to watch their beloved teams in carefully-regulated, limited numbers, complete with track and trace, she will have to explain to them the clinical difference between Scottish fans and English fans."

 

 

 

Perhaps the PM could explain that clinical difference ?

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2 hours ago, milky_26 said:

The bit missed from liewell/Doncaster is the allowance of fans into games in England is tier dependant. Up to 4000 in lowest tier and up to 2000 in second tier. None in highest tier. Iirc in Scotland the two lowest tiers can have fans so some differences but still similar

I think that's a great point!

 

Will anyone ask Doncaster this though?

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9 hours ago, 3fingersreid said:

SPFL clubs could go bust in January, warns Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy, as the Scottish government is again urged to offer financial help. 
 

gutted for them , NOT .

 

totally against govt money being used to bail out clubs/chairmen 

 

:yas:

 

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1 minute ago, Boris said:

I think that's a great point!

 

Will anyone ask Doncaster this though?

 

Tom English might as he has a brain.

 

But he will be accused of having an agenda against these turds.

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Just now, jonnothejambo said:

 

Tom English might as he has a brain.

 

But he will be accused of having an agenda against these turds.

I hope he does. Not least to hear the response.

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35 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

They were too busy with their other scheming, during the summer, to give a thought to the possibility of Covid knocking out spectators attending for the entire season.

They could have reconstructed the league divisions, with clubs mothballing if they thought it best for their circumstances. The rest could have made up a couple of bigger divisions, with less games so more time to deal with postponements due to testing issues.

Did the Premiership clubs really think that they were going to have a normal season, with full grounds for the visits of the bigoted duo? Equally, did the Championship clubs really think that Hearts fans would be coming to fill their grounds?

 Their spite and determination to hurt 3 clubs, and show nothing but self interest, blinded them to the possibility of what is coming to them.

We hardly see Doncaster these days. What he doing to justify his inflated salary for being a secretary?

As for Petrie and Dempster’s JRG 😂

Agree 100 percent. Even the sight of Doncaster and the Raith Chairman on the  BBC documentary on Monday restored my anger to quite unhealthy levels. ONLY HEARTS.

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4 minutes ago, Boris said:

I hope he does. Not least to hear the response.

I know people like English. But when it really matters he's as much of the problem as everyone else covering the game here. Else he would be ostracized

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21 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


I think there was a strong belief fans would be back in some way by October, hence why the old firm got pushed back as late as possible. 

 

 

In March / April yes, but surely tae **** by the time August came around it was clear there would be no large gatherings anytime soon. 

Thick as pig shit. 

 

They had the chance to make structural schange and plan for a worse case back in March time. 

 

They refused, clubs all looked after themselves and very few thought medium or longer term. 

 

As you say all hopes where pinned on big crowds returning, now that hope is gone they have no plan b so are flailing about desperately and will start to blame other folk. 

 

Utter shitehawks. 

 

 

 

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Doncaster et al have been belligerent and confrontational since the start of this crisis. Their attitude coupled with the lack of leadership shown over the early issues relating to Aberdeen and Celtic would result, IMO, in the SG having very little confidence in them. This is why Scottish football is on a pretty short leash these days. Which is a shame.

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7 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

In March / April yes, but surely tae **** by the time August came around it was clear there would be no large gatherings anytime soon. 

Thick as pig shit. 

 

They had the chance to make structural schange and plan for a worse case back in March time. 

 

They refused, clubs all looked after themselves and very few thought medium or longer term. 

 

As you say all hopes where pinned on big crowds returning, now that hope is gone they have no plan b so are flailing about desperately and will start to blame other folk. 

 

Utter shitehawks. 

 

 

 

You are forgetting ND is a very able man

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27 minutes ago, johnthomas said:

Perhaps the PM could explain that clinical difference ?

Two words : Green Brigade.

 

A bunch of clowns that have incurred the wrath of UEFA numerous (a dozen ?) times and who Celtic have been proven to be incapable of controlling even in Parkhead. 

The idea that Scottish football fans won't get pissed up, ignore social distancing in the  toilets & at the food kiosks is just laughable. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Doncaster must have something in his contract whereby he has to say something. 

 

He's not coming across very well. Is it his failure if fans don't get back in? 

 

 

It's his failure and the members failure to have planned for a worse cause scenerio. 

 

When they were all stamping on ours and Patrick's throats to get the sky money they never considered the pandemic lasting as long as it has. 

If clubs go bust it really is on them, short sighted doesn't do it justice. 

 

Media folk even had the audicity to criticise us as we dealt with the pandemic and forced demotion. Tits. 

 

No one cared about Partick, Falkirk, Stranraer and the Highland clubs all being denied opportunity and in fact voted to make certain clubs worse off. 

 

Now that some might go bust they are whining like pigs. 

 

**** them all. 

 

Hibs spent money on transfer fees while advocating wage reductions. 

 

Rangers spent about £5m on transfers, Celtic the same. 

 

Dundee voted to promote their rivals and not have a chance at a play off. 

 

**** them all. 

 

Feel sorry for the clubs that voted for change and admin staff, but half of these clubs need to play at senior or junior level anyway, starting with that fudd's club who wanted to save bus fares and a packed lunch. ****ing idiot. 

 

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3 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Two words : Green Brigade.

 

A bunch of clowns that have incurred the wrath of UEFA numerous (a dozen ?) times and who Celtic have been proven to be incapable of controlling even in Parkhead. 

The idea that Scottish football fans won't get pissed up, ignore social distancing in the  toilets & at the food kiosks is just laughable. 

 

It's almost a question of stunted evolution

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16 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

In March / April yes, but surely tae **** by the time August came around it was clear there would be no large gatherings anytime soon. 

Thick as pig shit. 

 

They had the chance to make structural schange and plan for a worse case back in March time. 

 

They refused, clubs all looked after themselves and very few thought medium or longer term. 

 

As you say all hopes where pinned on big crowds returning, now that hope is gone they have no plan b so are flailing about desperately and will start to blame other folk. 

 

Utter shitehawks. 

 

 

 

 

That is why no Hearts fan should entertain these utter shitehawks when it comes to their PPV.

 

They can all go down the shitter as far as I'm concerned. 

 

Feck them all. Only Hearts.

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6 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

It's his failure and the members failure to have planned for a worse cause scenerio. 

 

When they were all stamping on ours and Patrick's throats to get the sky money they never considered the pandemic lasting as long as it has. 

If clubs go bust it really is on them, short sighted doesn't do it justice. 

 

Media folk even had the audicity to criticise us as we dealt with the pandemic and forced demotion. Tits. 

 

No one cared about Partick, Falkirk, Stranraer and the Highland clubs all being denied opportunity and in fact voted to make certain clubs worse off. 

 

Now that some might go bust they are whining like pigs. 

 

**** them all. 

 

Hibs spent money on transfer fees while advocating wage reductions. 

 

Rangers spent about £5m on transfers, Celtic the same. 

 

Dundee voted to promote their rivals and not have a chance at a play off. 

 

**** them all. 

 

Feel sorry for the clubs that voted for change and admin staff, but half of these clubs need to play at senior or junior level anyway, starting with that fudd's club who wanted to save bus fares and a packed lunch. ****ing idiot. 

 

 

A belter of a post. 

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Geoff Kilpatrick

Wait! Is this the same Stenhousemuir twat who said at the start of the season they had budgeted for no fans and could just about survive?

 

Oh well. Chortle.

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9 hours ago, 3fingersreid said:

SPFL clubs could go bust in January, warns Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy, as the Scottish government is again urged to offer financial help. 
 

gutted for them , NOT .

 

totally against govt money being used to bail out clubs/chairmen 

 

Are the lower league clubs crying wolf just a little too often? As of now no club has filed for administration nor have the media really been suggesting club a, b or c is at the door of admin. 

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