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Dawnrazor

Anyway, back on morbid topic, she apparently hanged herself😔

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Alex Kintner
4 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

''Well liked''... by people who struggle to get off the couch and perhaps should seek goals in life and better employment. :rofl:


Is it possible to have a well paid profession, a fantastic young family and active social life and still enjoy watching Davina on Million Pound Drop and This Time Next Year? 

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Irufushi

Hi guys, I’m BoD. Let’s have fun. 
 

:rofl:🚀

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NANOJAMBO

Well he didn't last long over there. :rofl:

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Mauricio Pinilla

The name of that other forum used to (might still) get starred out on here :lol: someone sent me a pm about it once and I had no idea what they were on about. 

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Cade
14 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said:

Never knew about that other Hearts forum but I do recognize many usernames.  I assume its for folk that got emptied from here? 

 

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1971fozzy
14 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


It would also need an overhaul of the way celebrities use the media to promote themselves when it suits.


100%

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AlphonseCapone
On 17/02/2020 at 17:40, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


There are literally no credible suggestions that the blood was from self harming.

 

Words of the woman herself that the blood was hers. Of course she isn't exactly an impartial observator but then nor are the newspapers. 

 

Full unpublished post she wrote but was advised not to publish for anyone interested;

 

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/caroline-flack-unpublished-instagram-post-she-wrote-before-death-1-6520870

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I P Knightley
10 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said:

I’d happily post the link in here, but I’m not sure the Mods would like it. Since the fora in question is included in the swear filter. 
 

But if anyone’s interested in reading it, they can just google “Inter-fora sandy”. Starts about page 7. 

Some folk invest way too much emotion in their football discussion forum, with an unhealthy passion for being proved to have the right opinion. Apparently, two different discussion boards discussing the same matter can be "rivals".

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i8hibsh

How sad are these attention seekers that go to someone's house they did not know and lay flowers just because the death is a 'famous' one.  Wonder if they laid flowers on the other 250,000 people who died on Saturday.

 

 

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i8hibsh

I was a very young man when 'Princess' Diana died.  That nauseating, self fulfilling, faux grieving and over indulgent Tsunami was enough to put me of not just celebrities but people in general.  That shit changed my outlook.

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Phil Dunphy
27 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

How sad are these attention seekers that go to someone's house they did not know and lay flowers just because the death is a 'famous' one.  Wonder if they laid flowers on the other 250,000 people who died on Saturday.

 

 


What a weird thing to expect. 
 

“People paying their respects? What a shower of arseholes.”

 

Change the record fs. 

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I P Knightley
23 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

I was a very young man when 'Princess' Diana died.  That nauseating, self fulfilling, faux grieving and over indulgent Tsunami was enough to put me of not just celebrities but people in general.  That shit changed my outlook.

I don't know why 'Princess' is in quote marks - didn't she retain her title until death?

 

But I agree with you. I actually know some people who went off to Kensington or wherever to sign a book of condolence and lay some flowers. I urged them to save their money at to take me out for a beer or two; doing so would have been at least as beneficial a use of their money. I also got thoroughly pissed off when someone from the BBC contacted asking why we were going ahead with business as usual on the day of her funeral, almost demanding that I and my colleagues and all our customers (none of whom had been invited to the funeral) join in with the mawkishness.

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Nookie Bear
10 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said:


What a weird thing to expect. 
 

“People paying their respects? What a shower of arseholes.”

 

Change the record fs. 


 But why are they leaving flowers for someone they did not know? That’s the point he is making. 
 

It is utterly bizarre behaviour. 

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Lord BJ
22 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


 But why are they leaving flowers for someone they did not know? That’s the point he is making. 
 

It is utterly bizarre behaviour. 


It’s simply people feel a connection to her for whatever reason whether it’s they are fans, can relate to the situation or whatever. 
 

It’s not that uncommon an action and you often see it in the sporting world for example when  deaths, fans laying scarfs for players never met and even things like disasters with people paying ‘respects’ in a variety of ways. 
 

It’s not something I would do personally but It’s just people paying their respects I guess.

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Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
37 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


 But why are they leaving flowers for someone they did not know? That’s the point he is making. 
 

It is utterly bizarre behaviour. 

They'll be part of the problem and are the sun's target readership.

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Phil Dunphy
58 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


 But why are they leaving flowers for someone they did not know? That’s the point he is making. 
 

It is utterly bizarre behaviour. 


Paying respects to someone you didn’t know is bizarre behaviour? Really?

 

What a dreadfully cynical world you must live in. 

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Cade
19 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said:


Paying respects to someone you didn’t know is bizarre behaviour? Really?

 

What a dreadfully cynical world you must live in. 

empathy
noun
  1. the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.
     
    sociopath
    noun
     
    1. a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour.

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dobmisterdobster

Are there really people suggesting the press shouldn't have reported on her allegedly assaulting her boyfriend?

 

RIP Caroline

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sadj
29 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

Are there really people suggesting the press shouldn't have reported on her allegedly assaulting her boyfriend?

 

RIP Caroline


I think they should have but the way they did is what should be looked at. Changing that would change the foundations of how these papers work though. Carolines Law shouldn’t just be about Celebs plenty of non-famous people get the same treatment. Social Media is full of abuse and trolling. 
 

Never really known much about her , however the blaming of the CPS is awful. To say they shouldn’t have adjudged that there is enough to take it to trial is ridiculous and something like that is why a minority of domestic violence cases see the violent partner arrested , tried and found guilty. Everyone has seen the girl smacked by the bf in the street. Go to help and she turns on you. People in that situation will go through it for a good period of time before escaping , if they ever do. CPS have to push on with these things to try and change that. 

 

Having read her unpublished post it seemed a cry for help but also a nod towards she had behaved inappropriately. That is the tragic part that she felt there was no other way out. 

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Nookie Bear
1 hour ago, Phil Dunphy said:


Paying respects to someone you didn’t know is bizarre behaviour? Really?

 

What a dreadfully cynical world you must live in. 


Don’t get me wrong, It’s desperately sad, but surely buying flowers is something you do for someone you know as a friend or a family member. 
 

And @Cade you can be empathetic without publicly displaying it in a way that suggests the deceased was something more than just a person on the tv.  

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Phil Dunphy
36 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


Don’t get me wrong, It’s desperately sad, but surely buying flowers is something you do for someone you know as a friend or a family member. 
 

And @Cade you can be empathetic without publicly displaying it in a way that suggests the deceased was something more than just a person on the tv.  


Like Lord BJ says, it’s not an uncommon occurrence for sporting heroes or musicians so it’s not that strange for a TV personality really. I wanted to take the day off to pay my respects to Dave Mackays funeral cortège but couldn’t, despite the fact I never met him. 
 

At the very least, things like this might be of a small comfort to her family. 

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fancy a brew

I read Caroline Flack is the 4th person associated with Love Island to take their own life.

I think it's no coincidence that reality TV and showbiz in general attracts people with fragile mental health. They are seeking something that is unlikely to be found in fame, ie self esteem. If you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs most people have their basic needs met, but in today's fragmented society struggle with the higher ones. They then seek to boost their psychological needs by getting their 15 minutes of fame. Or as was mentioned above, over investing their sense of self worth on social media in general, or football forums in particular...

 

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Smithee
5 hours ago, Nookie Bear said:


 But why are they leaving flowers for someone they did not know? That’s the point he is making. 
 

It is utterly bizarre behaviour. 

 

Why does it need i8's approval and understanding to be validated?

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Nookie Bear
Just now, Smithee said:

 

Why does it need i8's approval and understanding to be validated?


I never said it did. I was just agreeing with his point. 

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Smithee
4 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


I never said it did. I was just agreeing with his point. 

 

Fair enough.

They feel something you don't, if you're not into it what else is there to really say about it?

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annushorribilis III
1 hour ago, fancy a brew said:

I read Caroline Flack is the 4th person associated with Love Island to take their own life.

I think it's no coincidence that reality TV and showbiz in general attracts people with fragile mental health. They are seeking something that is unlikely to be found in fame, ie self esteem. If you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs most people have their basic needs met, but in today's fragmented society struggle with the higher ones. They then seek to boost their psychological needs by getting their 15 minutes of fame. Or as was mentioned above, over investing their sense of self worth on social media in general, or football forums in particular...

 

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I'd suggest it attracts narcissists but the problems begin when their needs for attention/adoration is no longer met. I doubt that is the case with Flack (she's had a successful career spanning 20 years on TV/media) - it seems like she was struggling with the realisation that her career was about to collapse given the impending court case. 

 

I don't want to get into this too much - I did work with a female who committed suicide by hanging. She had a very successful career, was an adoring mother and was about to embark on a new relationship. I worked with her most days and I knew her very well. I never suspected there was anything "wrong" , ever. 

 

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Alex Kintner
On 16/02/2020 at 18:19, shaun.lawson said:

 

There's this basic tenet we all live by in a civilised society. It's called innocent until proven guilty. Without that basic tenet, we get mob rule by a pack of hyenas. We also get things like gangs of brain-dead morons attacking paediatrician's homes because they don't understand the difference between 'paediatrician' and 'paedophile'.

 

Every time I see people leap to conclusions about someone's innocence or guilt before a trial's even taken place, I always wonder to myself how they'd feel if they were ever charged with a crime they didn't commit. Or even, charged with a crime they did commit. Judge the action, not the person. 

 

There's people on this forum who openly boast about having lost their virginity before they reached the age of consent; openly boast about having used drugs; and openly boast about getting falling down incapable on a regular basis. In the first two cases, they broke the law. In the last case, they behaved with reckless irresponsibility and think doing so is hilarious. Then there's those who regularly drive over the speed limit, or drive while talking on a hands-free mobile, or whatever. To put it another way: everyone makes mistakes and everyone does stupid things all the time.

 

But so many just can't admit to that. Instead, their idea of 'empathy' is "well I wouldn't have done that in the same situation" (actually, you don't have the faintest idea what you would have done given you weren't that person in that situation); and whose response to the above will be "well I never beat up my partner!", as though that somehow negates their own illegal and/or irresponsible behaviour. And they're desperate to negate it, because they're desperate to look down on and attack others.

 

My own view is that people whose every last move is covered by the tabloid press - denied any kind of privacy or personal life - are much, much more likely to have dysfunctional relationships and end up with mental health problems. The way famous people are treated by our culture is disgusting and inhuman. Incredibly, what happened to Diana - and there's people on this very thread who thought jokes about her death were hilarious too - changed nothing. So much so that the same tabloid press which chased her to her death then started harassing her own son's wife. Kudos to her for getting the hell out of dodge with her husband and child.

 

It's grotesque. It isn't normal; there's only a few countries in the world with a press this feral, this disgusting. And the hateful, judgemental, pious, moralising (except when boasting about their own debauchery, of course - BECAUSE THAT'S DIFFERENT) British public just lap it up.


Are those who hound and harrass celebs on Twitter as equally reprehensible as the press? 🤔

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AlphonseCapone
11 hours ago, Nookie Bear said:


 But why are they leaving flowers for someone they did not know? That’s the point he is making. 
 

It is utterly bizarre behaviour. 

 

It's certainly not something I'd do for a stranger. 

 

That said, I also find the fact people on the Internet can get annoyed at the behaviour of strangers that has zero impact on there lives, utterly bizarre behaviour. 

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Mauricio Pinilla
9 hours ago, Alex Kintner said:


Are those who hound and harrass celebs on Twitter as equally reprehensible as the press? 🤔

 

People who hound and harrass anyone on twitter are as bad as the press. 

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Alex Kintner
5 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

People who hound and harrass anyone on twitter are as bad as the press. 


Indeed, defamatory posts all over the place. Thankfully one well-known troll on Twitter has decided to take a self-imposed break from that platform following yet another meltdown. Hope the rest follow suit. 

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