Latest FOH email - have your say on supermajority

[Jambo-Fox]

7 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Have you read the recent email? Your comments seem at complete odds with the course of action it describes.

Perhaps it does but SaintJambo is correct!

 

A vote can be cast by the chairperson on behalf of a member. It’s nothing new and has been happening in the FOH since inception ... I always vote at meetings BUT never attend them!!

Edited February 24, 2020 by Jambo-Fox

[pettigrewsstylist]

4 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

That makes sense, how it should be and how I thought it would be!

 

The FOH communicators need to stop ambiguous messages that can be misread and misunderstood and they should not assume that people know the obvious! 

Agreed. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

2 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Perhaps it does but SaintJambo is correct!

 

A vote can be cast by the chairperson on behalf of a member. It’s nothing new and has been happening in the FOH since

inception ... I always vote at meetings BUT never attend them!!

Good stuff, thanks. Presumably announced clearly at calling notice for GM.

Edited February 24, 2020 by pettigrewsstylist

[Section Q]

13 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Anyway this vote confirms that 75% ( if approved) is the correct decision .... because it actually shows how hard it might be to get something that makes sense to the majority approved by 75% or more!! 

And also how a small band of nutters can go off rail. 

[o1djambo]

13 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Anyway this vote confirms that 75% ( if approved) is the correct decision .... because it actually shows how hard it might be to get something that makes sense to the majority approved by 75% or more!! 

Also could be an indication of less members required to be in favour of selling out if only the 75 per cent are needed instead of the 90 per cent. 

[o1djambo]

4 minutes ago, Section Q said:

And also how a small band of nutters can go off rail. 

I must agree with you. 

[Poseidon]

In the unlikely event I am able to go to the meeting I'm happy to vote on behalf of others against the proposal if they are unable to attend and happy to fill in the form naming me as their proxy.

[o1djambo]

Interestingly I had a conversation at the last home game about the Foh email and out of six members I was the only person who had reacted and cast a vote. Rather worrying as the club could be sold owing to lethargy of our support. People must pay attention in class. 

[davemclaren]

7 minutes ago, o1djambo said:

Interestingly I had a conversation at the last home game about the Foh email and out of six members I was the only person who had reacted and cast a vote. Rather worrying as the club could be sold owing to lethargy of our support. People must pay attention in class. 

...or not be sold owing to lethargy in our support. 

[Footballfirst]

1 hour ago, Jambo-Fox said:

That surely can’t be correct? It must be possible to instruct the chairperson of the meeting  to vote on your behalf as you want ...... surely?

 

if not democracy is dead ... 

PS it surely means 75% of the votes cast at the meeting including those proxied to the chairperson in advance of the meeting?

You would think so, but the email doesn't make that clear. I think getting a quorum may be the bigger issue.

[sac]

Poll result in

[davemclaren]

2 minutes ago, sac said:

Poll result in

Peebles? 😄

[pettigrewsstylist]

9 hours ago, Poseidon said:

In the unlikely event I am able to go to the meeting I'm happy to vote on behalf of others against the proposal if they are unable to attend and happy to fill in the form naming me as their proxy.

May well PM you once calling notice is out 👍

[Tasavallan]

For me, 90% or 75% was never the issue.  It was, as proved, the %age that actually voted.  How many of the 8000+ FOH members are actually members of JKB and were aware of the vote.  How many FOH members have incorrect contact details and were never contacted.

 

A 20% turnout is very low but maybe it reflects poor administration by FOH.  Has FOH sent an email out to all its members recently to obtain updated contact details.   I only found out about the vote  through the thread on JKB.

[Jambo-Fox]

19 minutes ago, Tasavallan said:

For me, 90% or 75% was never the issue.  It was, as proved, the %age that actually voted.  How many of the 8000+ FOH members are actually members of JKB and were aware of the vote.  How many FOH members have incorrect contact details and were never contacted.

 

A 20% turnout is very low but maybe it reflects poor administration by FOH.  Has FOH sent an email out to all its members recently to obtain updated contact details.   I only found out about the vote  through the thread on JKB.

You obviously never got the e mail ..... which would suggest they do not have the correct one for you (or perhaps it went to your junk mail). 

I’d also suggest the individual is responsible for ensuring personal details are correct rather than the organisation holding them.

Edited February 25, 2020 by Jambo-Fox

[davemclaren]

55 minutes ago, Tasavallan said:

For me, 90% or 75% was never the issue.  It was, as proved, the %age that actually voted.  How many of the 8000+ FOH members are actually members of JKB and were aware of the vote.  How many FOH members have incorrect contact details and were never contacted.

 

A 20% turnout is very low but maybe it reflects poor administration by FOH.  Has FOH sent an email out to all its members recently to obtain updated contact details.   I only found out about the vote  through the thread on JKB.

If FoH have the wrong/old email address then the member won’t get any email anyway to get new email details. 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

21 hours ago, o1djambo said:

Interestingly I had a conversation at the last home game about the Foh email and out of six members I was the only person who had reacted and cast a vote. Rather worrying as the club could be sold owing to lethargy of our support. People must pay attention in class. 

 

They didn't send out a reminder email as far as I can recall. People need prodded to do things like this. Generally, communication seems poor.

[Mister Dee]

This doesn’t sit well with me. 
We did all this to be a fan owned Club -the idea of another nut job owner getting their hands on us, is worrying.
It’ll be interesting to see how this pans out. 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

2 minutes ago, Mister Dee said:

This doesn’t sit well with me. 
We did all this to be a fan owned Club -the idea of another nut job owner getting their hands on us, is worrying.
It’ll be interesting to see how this pans out. 

 

It's not done and dusted yet, but anything that makes it easier to sell the club should be a big worry IMO, especially if we get relegated as "investors" might sense they can get us at a cutdown price and fans might be worried enough to chance it.

Edited February 25, 2020 by ToqueJambo

[Jambo-Fox]

23 hours ago, o1djambo said:

Interestingly I had a conversation at the last home game about the Foh email and out of six members I was the only person who had reacted and cast a vote. Rather worrying as the club could be sold owing to lethargy of our support. People must pay attention in class. 

People have VERY short memories... I was once involved with training 350 people over a 48 hour period on safety ... 24 hours later we were audited and only 15% of those interviewed said they had received any safety training over the previous 6 months!! 😂  

People 🤷‍♂️

[hughesie27]

Wrong thread. Worth a bump tho?

Edited May 30, 2024 by hughesie27