Suso Santana Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 How is that even legal? Why do we need to pay the BBC to watch any live tv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Because it's right. The BBC is ****ing fantastic despite how shit the Scottish sport section of it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Glottis said: Because it's right. The BBC is ****ing fantastic despite how shit the Scottish sport section of it is. The documentaries are second to none. Occasionally decent drama The rest shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Who pays for a license in this day and age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 It's amazing value for money. BBC 1, 2, 3 and 4, BBC Scotland, Alba, CBBC, Cbeebies, News, Parliament, S4C, iplayer plus all the radio channels (10 national, 6 regional and 40 local) plus the BBC owns half of the UKTV network (Alibi, Dave, Drama, Eden, Gold, W and Yesterday) 18 TV channels, at least 17 radio stations and their online streaming service for £13 a month. If the license fee was scrapped and your normal cable/satellite package put up by £13 a month you'd barely notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 It's a racket. It's great value for money...if you want to watch what they show live. For those of us who don't, but want to watch other 'live tv' then it's a total con. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jee Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 It's all about giving you the option to not pay it. It's 2020 like, surely they can self fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Gaz Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Time to scrap it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Berwick Jambo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Biased, outdated pish , definitely not worth the money & I long for the day it disappears altogether in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I'd pay the money just for 6Music. The thought of just having commercial radio available is frightening. TV, radio, website; it's fantastic value for money IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 We all pay for commercial television whether you watch it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: Who pays for a license in this day and age? People who aren’t blasé about breaking the law and who appreciate what a public service broadcaster does. And people who have seen TV in other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The BBC is one of the most decent things produced in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Nothing wrong with the licence. BBC is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Cade said: It's amazing value for money. BBC 1, 2, 3 and 4, BBC Scotland, Alba, CBBC, Cbeebies, News, Parliament, S4C, iplayer plus all the radio channels (10 national, 6 regional and 40 local) plus the BBC owns half of the UKTV network (Alibi, Dave, Drama, Eden, Gold, W and Yesterday) 18 TV channels, at least 17 radio stations and their online streaming service for £13 a month. If the license fee was scrapped and your normal cable/satellite package put up by £13 a month you'd barely notice. Correct, outstanding value for money. TV & Radio without adverts is worth the licence fee alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Bet Lineker and his £1.5M appreciates it. I haven't had a license for years. I don't watch the BBC. Edited February 4, 2020 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Correct, outstanding value for money. TV & Radio without adverts is worth the licence fee alone. This is correct for those who want it, but what about those who don't? I don't see why I need to pay the BBC just because I stream live football on bt sport and sky sports. 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: This is correct for those who want it, but what about those who don't? I don't see why I need to pay the BBC just because I stream live football on bt sport and sky sports. 🤷🏻♂️ Yep. What if they made you pay for Sky, even if you didn't watch it? It's pretty much the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) The BBC are a bunch of bloated, money wasting, out-of-touch, self aggrandising, overpaid shitehawks but the licence fee is probably reasonable value for enough of the content to be found amongst all the utter shite it produces. It is remarkable that the BBC can be so horrendously wasteful and yet still produce an adequate public service in most areas within the funding model. Edited February 4, 2020 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scallywag Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I dont watch BBC, but do listen to the football on the radio. Dont really watch live TV anymore. Their documentaries are often excellent but dont miss much else, particularly the political stuff and news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Victorian said: The BBC are a bunch of bloated, money wasting, out-of-touch, self aggrandising, overpaid shitehawks but the licence fee is probably reasonable value for enough of the content to be found amongst all the utter shite it produces. It is remarkable that the BBC can be so horrendously wasteful and yet still produce an adequate public service in most areas within the funding model. I heard they just hire loads of women and pay them less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 People who like to think they’re edgy boast about not paying the licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Monty Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, Tazio said: People who like to think they’re edgy boast about not paying the licence. This. If something that costs about £12 a month? is bothering you, you probably have more serious problems in your life/mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Tazio said: People who like to think they’re edgy boast about not paying the licence. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Lovecraft said: Yep. What if they made you pay for Sky, even if you didn't watch it? It's pretty much the same thing. Does Sky have adverts? If so we do all pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Zlatanable said: I am proud to pay the License fee, I am happy to pay the License fee, I will continue to pay the License fee Are you proud to pay any other household bills? That seems a bit strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: Are you proud to pay any other household bills? That seems a bit strange. Not proud to pay it but would be embarrassed not to pay it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Cade said: It's amazing value for money. BBC 1, 2, 3 and 4, BBC Scotland, Alba, CBBC, Cbeebies, News, Parliament, S4C, iplayer plus all the radio channels (10 national, 6 regional and 40 local) plus the BBC owns half of the UKTV network (Alibi, Dave, Drama, Eden, Gold, W and Yesterday) 18 TV channels, at least 17 radio stations and their online streaming service for £13 a month. If the license fee was scrapped and your normal cable/satellite package put up by £13 a month you'd barely notice. Value for money? Possibly. If there was no license fee would I pay extra to add it onto my Sky package? Probably not. None of the above is the point though. I turn my TV on and use Netflix. I watch movies on Sky Cinema, I watch football on Sky Sports. I CHOOSE to pay for all that and if I don't pay for it then I don't get nasty letters or a court summons, they just don't let me watch it anymore. The BBC are operating a non volountary subscription service in a time where it's possible for them to block their channels from those that don't want to pay. The TV license shouldn't be funding radio channels either. You don't need a TV license or a radio license to listen to the radio (domestically). This debate isn't about what the BBC provides. It's about a forced "subscription". It's literally a tax on TV. If the BBC was state run and impartial and the government actually called it a tax it would be more palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, Lemongrab said: Are you proud to pay any other household bills? That seems a bit strange. Hey now. I'm proud to pay my gas bill. 💨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Justin Z said: Hey now. I'm proud to pay my gas bill. 💨 I bet you've got your first one framed. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Lemongrab said: I bet you've got your first one framed. 😂 🤦🏻♂️ Why didn't I think of that? I only ever framed my first council tax bill. Hung it up in my office next to my VAT return collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Correct, outstanding value for money. TV & Radio without adverts is worth the licence fee alone. Surely you would record commercial television and fast forward through the adverts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 We pay £7 every two weeks for our licence. Not really worth getting your knickers in a twist over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Suso Santana said: How is that even legal? Why do we need to pay the BBC to watch any live tv? Paying twice for it as it comes with a virgin package or sky, rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I don't pay mine. Never have. My parents recently got a Firestick and phoned up to cancel their TV Licence. The TV Licence guys couldn't have been more helpful, cancelled it without issue and refunded them £70. You'd have to be mad to pay it north of the border. Especially since they pretty much don't bother enforcing it in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: You'd have to be mad to pay it north of the border. Especially since they pretty much don't bother enforcing it in Scotland. But the TV detector vans....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Costanza said: I'd pay the money just for 6Music. The thought of just having commercial radio available is frightening. TV, radio, website; it's fantastic value for money IMO. This and some late shows on radio scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, OmiyaHearts said: I don't pay mine. Never have. My parents recently got a Firestick and phoned up to cancel their TV Licence. The TV Licence guys couldn't have been more helpful, cancelled it without issue and refunded them £70. You'd have to be mad to pay it north of the border. Especially since they pretty much don't bother enforcing it in Scotland. Mad or respect the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I watch a heck of a lot on Iplayer. I listen daily to Radio 2 and 5live. I watch live football on BBC. I use their website everyday. I have no issues in paying for it. I respect the views of others but the BBC produce some of the finest nature and history programmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORTHCLYDE Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 My mother died a number of years ago and her house was empty. The house was empty of all fixtures and fittings. But the BBC threatened to break down the door to get in as the did not believe there was no TV. Unfortunately as I did not live there I couldn't welcome them with a pickaxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, FORTHCLYDE said: My mother died a number of years ago and her house was empty. The house was empty of all fixtures and fittings. But the BBC threatened to break down the door to get in as the did not believe there was no TV. Unfortunately as I did not live there I couldn't welcome them with a pickaxe. Thats shocking bud, what a shower of insensitive clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 19 hours ago, Lovecraft said: Bet Lineker and his £1.5M appreciates it. I haven't had a license for years. I don't watch the BBC. Lineker paid 10 times that. Most is undeclared as done through a private company. Mark Chapman not far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Folk acting like those who grudge paying an extra £14 a month like it's the spare change in their pocket are doing something wrong show some signs of being out of touch with reality. The only live BBC I could say I regularly watch is the 20 minutes I catch Breakfast before work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20 hours ago, FWJ said: People who aren’t blasé about breaking the law and who appreciate what a public service broadcaster does. And people who have seen TV in other countries. I just don't watch BBC at all, plus I aint paying for state propaganda news. Plus, they must have about 100 weather presenters on their books going by the regions. Absolute nuts. BBC...Get in the sea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suso Santana Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 hours ago, IronJambo said: Value for money? Possibly. If there was no license fee would I pay extra to add it onto my Sky package? Probably not. None of the above is the point though. I turn my TV on and use Netflix. I watch movies on Sky Cinema, I watch football on Sky Sports. I CHOOSE to pay for all that and if I don't pay for it then I don't get nasty letters or a court summons, they just don't let me watch it anymore. The BBC are operating a non volountary subscription service in a time where it's possible for them to block their channels from those that don't want to pay. The TV license shouldn't be funding radio channels either. You don't need a TV license or a radio license to listen to the radio (domestically). This debate isn't about what the BBC provides. It's about a forced "subscription". It's literally a tax on TV. If the BBC was state run and impartial and the government actually called it a tax it would be more palatable. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: I just don't watch BBC at all, plus I aint paying for state propaganda news. Plus, they must have about 100 weather presenters on their books going by the regions. Absolute nuts. BBC...Get in the sea! May I ask where you get your news from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennedy Bakircioglu Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 It's great value. Anyone who doesn't pay it is a scaff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewjambo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Lineker paid 10 times that. Most is undeclared as done through a private company. Mark Chapman not far behind. Lineker is paid £15m by the BBC!!! I don't believe that for a second - got any links that back up your claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, andrewjambo said: Lineker is paid £15m by the BBC!!! I don't believe that for a second - got any links that back up your claim? He gets paid the majority of it through his production company "Goalhanger Films". I thought his huge cut from the BBC was common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewjambo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, IronJambo said: He gets paid the majority of it through his production company "Goalhanger Films". I thought his huge cut from the BBC was common knowledge. I can't find any links that quote his £15m per year salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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