Nessjambo67 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Read he has been omitted from officiating in any way this weekend . Good to see that his performance last weekend has been noticed . Was it not Clancy that awarded the non penalty at St Johnstone last season in the 2 2 draw? Or was it son of Dallas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nessjambo67 said: Read he has been omitted from officiating in any way this weekend . Good to see that his performance last weekend has been noticed . Was it not Clancy that awarded the non penalty at St Johnstone last season in the 2 2 draw? Or was it son of Dallas ? Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 None were penalties But maybe Celtic complained and at least half the time they get their own way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 games in a row he has been shit, thankfully didn't cost us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Celtic shud have had a penalty. But then I hate celtic so is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Peter Lawwell has obviously had a word with Peter Lawwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Alan Muir for us. Clueless if unbiased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He's dreadful. Him and Madden started out pretty fair then for whatever reason they both turned into arrogant over officious *****. Collum started out the opposite. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Clancy is one of the poorest referees in Scotland and that takes some doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Bring back Craig Thomson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I'll bet the Hibs welt still gets shit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just as well for him that there aren’t any highlights of Betfred games. The non-decision when Considine rugby tackled Uche was probably the worst call in a Hearts game so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I’m sure someone posted on here that 10/12 premier league refs are from Glasgow. Absolutely no coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Dannie Boy said: Clancy is one of the poorest referees in Scotland and that takes some doing. For a while he was the best but since last season I agree he has been poor but surely no worse than Beaton and Madden(ing)? McLean is probably the best these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7 hours ago, tcjambo said: For a while he was the best but since last season I agree he has been poor but surely no worse than Beaton and Madden(ing)? McLean is probably the best these days. I thought Clancy was decent at first too but now seems one of the worst. I think he has had the poor attitude drummed into him by the referees body. Madden is annoying AF and a poor referee to boot but Beaton is far worse in my opinion. As for McLean, he is diabolical. Not the worst but certainly not the best (not that that is a particularly high standard). not exactly sure who that leaves but Alan Muir is down right incompetent and Andrew Dallas is the worst of the lot with an awful attitude. Nick Walsh I haven’t seen much of although seems to have given a number of harsh decisions against us. Don Robertson seems ok. Collum is usually good if he isn’t called upon to make a major decision. so not exactly an embarrassment of riches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Sir Gio said: Alan Muir for us. Clueless if unbiased That's probably as good as you can hope for from the current crop of Lanarkshire (sorry Scottish) referees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Never seen Clancy have what you would consider to be a fair match ever at Tynecastle for years. When he first appeared on the scene he was pretty good and scrupulously fair - some one at Hampden obviously had a word in his ear though because in our games he is completely gash and has been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Mort said: I’m sure someone posted on here that 10/12 premier league refs are from Glasgow. Absolutely no coincidence. I think Levein said that at the HMSA meeting when talking about Uche's treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I was stood waiting on the lift to the club deck at Ibrox last season for a European match and also in the que for that lift was a tall baldy Scottish ref....... 12 hours ago, Mort said: I’m sure someone posted on here that 10/12 premier league refs are from Glasgow. Absolutely no coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, Deevers said: Never seen Clancy have what you would consider to be a fair match ever at Tynecastle for years. When he first appeared on the scene he was pretty good and scrupulously fair - some one at Hampden obviously had a word in his ear though because in our games he is completely gash and has been for years. Why would people at Hampden have a word with a ref to give decisions against Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texia Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 It's a shite state of affairs when Willie Collum is the best top flight referee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 This just proves even further that Celtic run Scottish football, if any other club had made the complaint against Clancy, they'd be facing disciplinary hearings and punishments, don't get me wrong, he's an absolutely horrendous referee, but it takes decisions against the darlings of Scottish football before anything is done, corrupt to the core! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 hours ago, Nessjambo67 said: Read he has been omitted from officiating in any way this weekend . Good to see that his performance last weekend has been noticed . Was it not Clancy that awarded the non penalty at St Johnstone last season in the 2 2 draw? Or was it son of Dallas ? It doesn't really matter which one it was they are every bit as bad as each other. Let's face it for donkey's years non old firm fans have had to put up with their bias and it will never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Why would people at Hampden have a word with a ref to give decisions against Hearts? They wouldn't. But it's a comfort blanket for crap Hearts performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Why would people at Hampden have a word with a ref to give decisions against Hearts? It's not so much giving decisions against Hearts as giving decisions in favour of the OF. Like it or not, the Arse Cheeks generate substantially more money and the SFA would prefer Rangers and Celtic to be competing at the top of the league than say Hearts or Aberdeen, and so would sponsors because of the crowds. Same applies in cup finals. Rangers v Celtic will have a world wide TV appeal whereas a St Johnstone v Ross Co crowd will barely fill a stand, thus creating a poor image on TV. What is a bit hypocritical is that UEFA try to promote fair play rules but allow this ref fiasco to continue in Scotland where all the big games here go the Lanarkshire/Glasgow brigade overseen by John Fleming. It is beyond belief that Fleming thinks Sotland cannot produce even 1 or 2 good referees from Edinburgh, Perth, Fife, Aberdeen etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, JamboAl said: It's not so much giving decisions against Hearts as giving decisions in favour of the OF. Like it or not, the Arse Cheeks generate substantially more money and the SFA would prefer Rangers and Celtic to be competing at the top of the league than say Hearts or Aberdeen, and so would sponsors because of the crowds. Same applies in cup finals. Rangers v Celtic will have a world wide TV appeal whereas a St Johnstone v Ross Co crowd will barely fill a stand, thus creating a poor image on TV. What is a bit hypocritical is that UEFA try to promote fair play rules but allow this ref fiasco to continue in Scotland where all the big games here go the Lanarkshire/Glasgow brigade overseen by John Fleming. It is beyond belief that Fleming thinks Sotland cannot produce even 1 or 2 good referees from Edinburgh, Perth, Fife, Aberdeen etc Are referees from those areas putting themselves forward for the top jobs? And if it is a glass ceiling do you not think we would've heard the east coast referees complain about it by now if they kept being rejected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 He was little short of crap at the the Aberdeen game, him being benched this week is well deserved imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said: Are referees from those areas putting themselves forward for the top jobs? And if it is a glass ceiling do you not think we would've heard the east coast referees complain about it by now if they kept being rejected? Unless things have changed, they don't put themselves forward. They are (supposedly) watched and vetted. I was not specifically talking about east coast refs (that's your Rangers favour showing again) but the whole of Scotland, hence the "etc" at the end of my post, but if they railed against it, that would finish them completely. Are you saying that these weegie refs currently making an arse of themselves are the best Scotland can offer? A simple YES or NO will do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, WheatfieldWarrior said: He was little short of crap at the the Aberdeen game, him being benched this week is well deserved imo. You're right but he wasn't benched because of his performance in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Unless things have changed, they don't put themselves forward. They are (supposedly) watched and vetted. I was not specifically talking about east coast refs (that's your Rangers favour showing again) but the whole of Scotland, hence the "etc" at the end of my post, but if they railed against it, that would finish them completely. Are you saying that these weegie refs currently making an arse of themselves are the best Scotland can offer? A simple YES or NO will do? From the guy who thinks anybody west of Harthill is a weegie. Save me the geography lesson because yours is horrendous. Onto the point, if east coast refs were being excluded purely on where they come from do you not think something would have been made of it by now? Have a think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Clancy was our ref v Motherwell was he not? And he was ****ing awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 sadly I also thought Clancy was a very good ref first time I saw him years ago.....but has moprhed onto the same standard as the others. baffling decisions - often for us as well as against Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, JamboAl said: It's not so much giving decisions against Hearts as giving decisions in favour of the OF. Like it or not, the Arse Cheeks generate substantially more money and the SFA would prefer Rangers and Celtic to be competing at the top of the league than say Hearts or Aberdeen, and so would sponsors because of the crowds. Same applies in cup finals. Rangers v Celtic will have a world wide TV appeal whereas a St Johnstone v Ross Co crowd will barely fill a stand, thus creating a poor image on TV. What is a bit hypocritical is that UEFA try to promote fair play rules but allow this ref fiasco to continue in Scotland where all the big games here go the Lanarkshire/Glasgow brigade overseen by John Fleming. It is beyond belief that Fleming thinks Sotland cannot produce even 1 or 2 good referees from Edinburgh, Perth, Fife, Aberdeen etc Why didn't Clancy give Celtic that obvious penalty v Hibs then? Why did the apparent pro-hun Beaton give a red card to Ryan Jack v Hibs last season for nothing? I'm not saying Celtic & Rangers don't get more decisions in their favour at home (like majority of 'bog' clubs) but can explain how the above two decisions would fit into your conspiracy theory? All teams get decisions for and against them in football, we generally only see Hearts games in full, so I appreciate that's why people made radical claims like in your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said: From the guy who thinks anybody west of Harthill is a weegie. Save me the geography lesson because yours is horrendous. Onto the point, if east coast refs were being excluded purely on where they come from do you not think something would have been made of it by now? Have a think about it. I said the Lanarkshire/Glasgow brigade and simply used weegie as a short cut. As it happens a couple of the Lanarkshire ones are Glasgow born. I have had a long think about it and nothing has changed for some years. Only 3 Ediburgh refs have reffed the Scottish Cup final in nearly 150 years and my geography lessons have taught me Edinburgh is the capital of Scotland. That's some coincidence. Who was the last referee outside Glasgow/Lanarkshire to referee a S C final, excluding Ctaig Thomson from Paisley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Willie Collum is a Lanarkshire referee but is a member of the Glasgow association of referees. That fact alone should have barred him from refereeing the Scottish cup final. No not in Scotland. Collum to referee the Celtic v Hibs league cup semi final. Beaton/Madden to referee our game against Sevco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Scott Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I am new here but have always believed that Scotland is too small and parochial to have senior referees. The way forward is to do away with the top tier of referees and the various supervisors, assessors, etc. saving a fair amount of money and spend it on referees from other counties e.g. England, Scandinavia, etc. These referees would be impartial and less likely to suffer from the "we know where you live" threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, Colin Scott said: I am new here but have always believed that Scotland is too small and parochial to have senior referees. The way forward is to do away with the top tier of referees and the various supervisors, assessors, etc. saving a fair amount of money and spend it on referees from other counties e.g. England, Scandinavia, etc. These referees would be impartial and less likely to suffer from the "we know where you live" threats. And how much would it cost to fly these officials in every week, pay them their match fees and put them up in the best hotels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Clancy comes across a smarmy **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Fort Vallance said: You're right but he wasn't benched because of his performance in that game. No, but I can only base my opinion on games I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Jim Panzee said: sadly I also thought Clancy was a very good ref first time I saw him years ago.....but has moprhed onto the same standard as the others. baffling decisions - often for us as well as against I agree on this - I used to think he and Madden were both pretty decent. They have both gone downhill in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Only one of the OF could get him into trouble though. If a non-OF club complaining about him they'd get told to shut it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Colin Scott said: I am new here but have always believed that Scotland is too small and parochial to have senior referees. The way forward is to do away with the top tier of referees and the various supervisors, assessors, etc. saving a fair amount of money and spend it on referees from other counties e.g. England, Scandinavia, etc. These referees would be impartial and less likely to suffer from the "we know where you live" threats. Are there a lot of top quality referees sitting around twiddling their thumbs, waiting for the phone to ring? Surely if they're good enough that we want them over our own refs, they already have a gig? Edited October 4, 2019 by Smithee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessjambo67 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Sad as it may seem I’ve got my tin hat on but I think collum is probably the best ref just now .i would never had of said such a thing a couple of years ago what with his past history with us but I really don’t anyone better right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 03/10/2019 at 21:08, Dannie Boy said: Clancy is one of the poorest referees in Scotland and that takes some doing. Agreed. He's even worse than Beaton and that takes some amount of effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 03/10/2019 at 19:28, Smoked-Glass said: Celtic shud have had a penalty. But then I hate celtic so is fine They also should have had a red card!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Nessjambo67 said: Sad as it may seem I’ve got my tin hat on but I think collum is probably the best ref just now .i would never had of said such a thing a couple of years ago what with his past history with us but I really don’t anyone better right now Unbelievably I have reached that conclusion - at least we get an even break from him now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 When Collum gives himself a chance to think, he is a better referee. Running around with his fingers already on the red card is when he is at his worst. Remember, he was the referee when we beat Celtic 4-0. I’m fairly sure that Clancy is the referees’ spokesman/union guy. If so, it’s surprising they’ve benched him, unless Lawwell wants to send a message to referees that any bad decisions against Celtic, that threatens 10 in a row, won’t be tolerated, and nobody is untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: anybody west of Harthill is a weegie. That's obviously wrong. It's Livingston in fact maybe even Ratho Station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Get VAR introduced, that would sort the clowns/ refs out, never happen though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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