VivaObua Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Hopefully by the end of the week the squad will also have our Japanese creative midfielder so on paper it's a pretty big squad not massive amounts of quality but we must be looking to shift a few on either perm or loan deals..what we thinking Lee def going to be gone. Quote
Jason Dufner Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Would expect Lee will go, hopefully Bozanic to follow. Wouldn’t shock me to see Brandon shipped out and potentially loan deals for Cochrane & Keena. Quote
VivaObua Posted August 14, 2019 Author Posted August 14, 2019 Thinking a loan deal for Keena to a prem club would be great if someone would take him like St J or St Mirren be great for him and us. Same could go for Morrison and Irving. Cochrane should be looking at championship level. Quote
19/05/2012 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, VivaObua said: Thinking a loan deal for Keena to a prem club would be great if someone would take him like St J or St Mirren be great for him and us. Same could go for Morrison and Irving. Cochrane should be looking at championship level. Agree with that Zanatta and Keena have proven they can do it in the championship, if they are not going to get game time here we should be looking at a loan to premier league and if they handle it they would likely be starters for us next season. Would be good if we could get the likes of Cochrane, Smith and McDonald all to the same club playing with each other week in week out in a competitive league Quote
Eno Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, VivaObua said: Thinking a loan deal for Keena to a prem club would be great if someone would take him like St J or St Mirren be great for him and us. Same could go for Morrison and Irving. Cochrane should be looking at championship level. Think these guys would benefit from a loan deal in spl. Wouldn't give St.Mirren the steam off my p155 though. Edited August 14, 2019 by Eno Spelling Quote
RudiHMFC Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, VivaObua said: Thinking a loan deal for Keena to a prem club would be great if someone would take him like St J or St Mirren be great for him and us. Same could go for Morrison and Irving. Cochrane should be looking at championship level. They'd have to want him first, to be honest I don't think any prem teams are going to come calling for a striker that can't get in our team. Quote
baxterd1974 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Expect a good few out on loan, wouldn't have thought we would have Gary as loans manager unless the numbers are significant Quote
Eno Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Think these guys would benefit from a loan deal in spl. Wouldn't give St.Mirren the steam off my p155 though. Quote
gashauskis9 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) Out: Lee, Zlamal Loan (in addition to those already loaned out): Brandon, Burns, Cochrane, Currie, Henderson, C. Smith In: Meshino, New RB I reckon Zanatta, Keena, McDonald, Morrison and Irving will remain here and in and around the match day squad to cover for injuries. Bozanic and MacLean will be retained as experienced squad players who can help see certain games out. Wighton will leave on loan or permanently in Jan. Edited August 14, 2019 by Gashauskis9 Quote
BarneyBattles44 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, baxterd1974 said: Expect a good few out on loan, wouldn't have thought we would have Gary as loans manager unless the numbers are significant Well spotted its becoming obvious partnerships are brewing between Hearts and others. Quote
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, VivaObua said: Thinking a loan deal for Keena to a prem club would be great if someone would take him like St J or St Mirren be great for him and us. Same could go for Morrison and Irving. Cochrane should be looking at championship level. I'm the opposite, I think the best place for Harry and Irving is spending as much time training and playing with Naismith, Damour and Whelan as possible. Edited August 14, 2019 by ToqueJambo Quote
Mr Elwood P Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Out: Lee, Zlamal Loan (in addition to those already loaned out): Brandon, Burns, Cochrane, Currie, Henderson, C. Smith In: Meshino, New RB I reckon Zanatta, Keena, McDonald, Morrison and Irving will remain here and in and around the match day squad to cover for injuries. Bozanic and MacLean will be retained as experienced squad players who can help see certain games out. Wighton will leave on loan or permanently in Jan. Don’t know if we need a right back. Don’t we have a young right back about ages with Hickey? Quote
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, VivaObua said: Thinking a loan deal for Keena to a prem club would be great if someone would take him like St J or St Mirren be great for him and us. Same could go for Morrison and Irving. Cochrane should be looking at championship level. Not heard much about Morrison recently. Presume he is still recovering from last seasons injury? Quote
VivaObua Posted August 14, 2019 Author Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: I'm the opposite, I think the best place for Harry and Irving is spending as much time training and playing with Naismith, Damour and Whelan as possible. Well with the development loans these guys can do half and half and would hopefully be involved every weekend in proper mens football rather than our reserves. Quote
gashauskis9 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Don’t know if we need a right back. Don’t we have a young right back about ages with Hickey? Yep, Cammy Logan. Would he be ready to step up though? I reckon Hickey was a one off. Quote
kingantti1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Not a bad idea but .. help stmirren Na.. Quote
Midloth_Iain Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Can young guys loaned out still play for the Hearts colts in the Tunnocks Champions League ? (or whatever it is called) Can see us helping out Robbo/ICT .... Quote
Mr Elwood P Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Yep, Cammy Logan. Would he be ready to step up though? I reckon Hickey was a one off. Michael Smith likely to play every game if fit. Brandon can cover. Aidy White maybe be able to play right back if required? Halkett definitely could, defensively at least. Quote
upgotheheads Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Cochrane, Keena, Irving and Zanatta (if he's going to make it given his age) should really be staying with the first team squad and given game time whenever possible imo, but we certainly do have a lot of players needing to be loaned out. Suddenly the introduction of Gary Naismith as a loan coach makes more sense. Quote
Getintaethem Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) Zlamal Doyle Pererira Smith White Halkett Souttar Berra Dikamona Brandon Hickey Gurrucio Burns Harring Bozanic Clare Whelan Dacour Cochrane Irving Walker Mulranney Lee McDonald Moore Morrison Zanatta C.Smith Ikpeazu Washington Naismith McLean Wighton Keena Currie Henderson Thats some size of a squad, would like to think there will be a few out on loan and at least a couple out the door. Edited August 14, 2019 by Getintaethem Quote
Debut 4 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Getintaethem said: Zlamal Doyle Pererira Smith White Halkett Souttar Berra Dikamona Brandon Hickey Gurrucio Burns Harring Bozanic Clare Whelan Dacour Cochrane Irving Walker Mulranney Lee McDonald Moore Morrison Zanatta C.Smith Ikpeazu Washington Naismith McLean Wighton Keena Currie Henderson Thats some size of a squad, would like to think there will be a few out on loan and at least a couple out the door. In my opinion, there’s as many as 11 players who could go on loan, leave or aren’t really good enough. The 11 includes 1 keeper. You’ve also got two long term injuries there to add, so the squad is potentially down to 23 worthy members. Probably space there still for another bit of quality. Edited August 14, 2019 by Debut 4 Quote
Famous 1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Getintaethem said: Zlamal sell Doyle Pereria Smith White Halkett Souttar Berra Dikamona Brandon sell Hickey Garuccio Burns loan Haring Bozanic sell Clare Whelan Dacour Cochrane loan Irving Walker Mulraney Lee sell MacDonald Moore loaned Morrison loan Zanatta keep/loan/sell? C.Smith loan Ikpeazu Washington Naismith McLean sell Wighton Keena Currie loan Henderson sell Thats some size of a squad, would like to think there will be a few out on loan and at least a couple out the door. Things in bold is what I would do along with bringing in another right back, winger/attacking midfielder and striker. Quote
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 44 minutes ago, Kid Creole said: Can young guys loaned out still play for the Hearts colts in the Tunnocks Champions League ? (or whatever it is called) Can see us helping out Robbo/ICT .... The Euro Wafer Cup I heard Quote
jamboveg Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Don’t know if we need a right back. Don’t we have a young right back about ages with Hickey? Hickey can play rightback aswell. Two footed Quote
Mr Elwood P Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, jamboveg said: Hickey can play rightback aswell. Two footed Any good up front? Quote
Jean Louis Valois Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 We really need to trim that squad. A lot of players who could move on without being missed. Quote
Borders Jambo Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Things in bold is what I would do along with bringing in another right back, winger/attacking midfielder and striker. I agree with your sentiments but in order to sell someone, do we not need a buyer. I suspect some of the players you have listed to sell, will simply play out the remainder of their contract. Quote
Kiwidoug Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, Kid Creole said: Can young guys loaned out still play for the Hearts colts in the Tunnocks Champions League ? (or whatever it is called) Can see us helping out Robbo/ICT .... It is called the Tunnochs Champions League and it's a brilliant tournament. Every time 8 teams get knocked out another 8 come in. The final is at Murrayfield on 5th April 2025. The winners get a month's supply of biscuits. Quote
Ronald Villiers Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Eno said: Think these guys would benefit from a loan deal in spl. Wouldn't give St.Mirren the steam off my p155 though. Send them to Livi. Probably got the lowest budget in the league and it's not far away. Quote
heartsfc_fan Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Lee, McLean and Zlamal out. Should trim a fair bit off the wage bill. Loan out Burns, Cochrane, Henderson and Currie. Quote
tcjambo Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: Out: Lee, Zlamal Loan (in addition to those already loaned out): Brandon, Burns, Cochrane, Currie, Henderson, C. Smith In: Meshino, New RB I reckon Zanatta, Keena, McDonald, Morrison and Irving will remain here and in and around the match day squad to cover for injuries. Bozanic and MacLean will be retained as experienced squad players who can help see certain games out. Wighton will leave on loan or permanently in Jan. I agree with the bulk of this. Bozanic will stay and improve with better players around. He is good back up. Zanatta has to break through by Xmas or I there is no point in him being here. Wighton will go on loan once he returns from injury but MacLean can leave now IMO if he can find a club. Currie, Henderson and possibly Brandon and Burns may be released barring a spectacular loan spell like Zanatta last year. Quote
PhoenixHearts Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Getintaethem said: Doyle Pererira Smith White Halkett Souttar Berra Dikamona Brandon Gurrucio Harring Bozanic Clare Whelan Dacour Walker Mulraney Morrison Ikpeazu Washington Naismith McLean Keena Cleaned it up a bit. All the names I've scrubbed should either be sent on loan or allowed to leave (Lee, Bobby). Time for Cochrane to get some consistent first team action at a smaller club. He won't get that here. Not with Damour, Walker, Whelan and not to mention Haring coming back. Quote
Pasquale for King Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Michael Smith likely to play every game if fit. Brandon can cover. Aidy White maybe be able to play right back if required? Halkett definitely could, defensively at least. Smith misses games every season, Hickey can play RB too. Might take a bit of coaching but turning Zanatta into a RB could be an idea if they thinks he’s not going to make it as a winger. I would think most of the young guys under 20 who have played first team games will go out on loan. Zlamal, Lee, Bozanic, Wighton and Maclean would be no loss. Edited August 15, 2019 by Pasquale for King Quote
Mr Elwood P Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Smith misses games every season, Hickey can play RB too. Might take a bit of coaching but turning Zanatta into a RB could be an idea if they thinks he’s not going to make it as a winger. I would think most of the young guys under 20 who have played first team games will go out on loan. Zlamal, Lee, Bozanic, Wighton and Maclean would be no loss. Michael Smith has played between 20 and 43 League games every season for the last 10 years. He is very dependable both in terms of both performances and fitness. Zanatta concerted to right back??? That’s a 3am bevy post if ever there was one. We’ve got Logan breaking through. Zanatta won’t make it at Hearts as a forward, definitely not as a right back! Quote
DH1986 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Zlamal, Lee, Bozanic, McLean and Wighton are 100% surplus to requirements as far as I’m concerned. Clare and Uche could also leave tomorrow and I doubt the performances or results would be affected. There are also a handful of other fringe players like Zanatta who are unlikely to ever make it at Hearts and would be better moved on. Quote
CloustonHMFC Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Jason Dufner said: Would expect Lee will go, hopefully Bozanic to follow. Wouldn’t shock me to see Brandon shipped out and potentially loan deals for Cochrane & Keena. From what I heard Brandon asked to leave and was told no. Quote
Mr Kipling Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 5 hours ago, PhoenixHearts said: Cleaned it up a bit. All the names I've scrubbed should either be sent on loan or allowed to leave (Lee, Bobby). Time for Cochrane to get some consistent first team action at a smaller club. He won't get that here. Not with Damour, Walker, Whelan and not to mention Haring coming back. I think Hickey should remain. If White gets injured, we suddenly have a left back problem again. Quote
OmiyaHearts Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 4 hours ago, DH1986 said: Zlamal, Lee, Bozanic, McLean and Wighton are 100% surplus to requirements as far as I’m concerned. Clare and Uche could also leave tomorrow and I doubt the performances or results would be affected. There are also a handful of other fringe players like Zanatta who are unlikely to ever make it at Hearts and would be better moved on. I concur, with the exception of Clare. I'm still hopeful we'll see more from him with Whelan & Damour behind him. Offering Ikpezu an extension after doing virtually nothing in his first 6 months was ridiculous. Quote
mitch41 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Getintaethem said: Zlamal SELL Doyle SELL Pererira Smith White SELL Halkett Souttar Berra Dikamona Brandon SELL Hickey Gurrucio SELL Burns SELL Harring Bozanic SELL Clare SELL Whelan Dacour Cochrane Irving Walker SELL Mulranney Lee SELL McDonald SELL Moore SELL Morrison SELL Zanatta SELL C.Smith Ikpeazu SELL Washington Naismith McLean SELL Wighton SELL Keena SELL Currie SELL Henderson SELL Thats some size of a squad, would like to think there will be a few out on loan and at least a couple out the door. Am i being too harsh. obviously most would be freed as you'd get next to nothing for them. Edited August 15, 2019 by mitch41 Quote
Cruyff Turn Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Am i being too harsh. obviously most would be freed as you'd get next to nothing for them. Yes Quote
heartsfc_fan Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Am i being too harsh. obviously most would be freed as you'd get next to nothing for them. Sell Walker? When we've only just signed him? Quote
Sierra Delta Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Am i being too harsh. obviously most would be freed as you'd get next to nothing for them. Maybe a little... Quote
jambo19 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) With the English window shut where would Lee move to ? Wighton, Henderson, Morrison and Garuccio coming back from injury so 6 month loans for them would help get them match sharp. Brandon, Zanatta, Smith, Currie, Cochrane all on development loans. Punt Zlamal, Bozanic and MacLean Edited August 15, 2019 by jambo19 Quote
mitch41 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, heartsfc_fan said: Sell Walker? When we've only just signed him? I know Quote
soonbe110 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Debut 4 said: In my opinion, there’s as many as 11 players who could go on loan, leave or aren’t really good enough. The 11 includes 1 keeper. You’ve also got two long term injuries there to add, so the squad is potentially down to 23 worthy members. Probably space there still for another bit of quality. Might need a loans manager if there’s that many Quote
soonbe110 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, jambo19 said: With the English window shut where would Lee move to ? Wighton, Henderson, Morrison and Garuccio coming back from injury so 6 month loans for them would help get them match sharp. Brandon, Zanatta, Smith, Currie, Cochrane all on development loans. Punt Zlamal, Bozanic and MacLean League 1/2 where he came from Quote
Debut 4 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, soonbe110 said: Might need a loans manager if there’s that many Haha...more loans than TSB Quote
jambo19 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, soonbe110 said: League 1/2 where he came from Even though the English window is shut and he has 2 years remaining on his deal so we won't let him go for nothing ? Quote
Pasquale for King Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Michael Smith has played between 20 and 43 League games every season for the last 10 years. He is very dependable both in terms of both performances and fitness. Zanatta concerted to right back??? That’s a 3am bevy post if ever there was one. We’ve got Logan breaking through. Zanatta won’t make it at Hearts as a forward, definitely not as a right back! Yes and he misses games every season he has been with us, which is all I said. Not even being able to see the potential for Zanatta to be a foraging RB if he could be coached into how to defend says it all really, worked for Paterson but he didn’t learn how defend. Quote
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