gordiegords Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I parked at Aldi's for the cowdenbeath game and now ive just received through the door a penalty charge, £70, £40 if i pay now, did anyone get this charge or just me for being daft and thinking i would get away with it. Also, should i pay it? Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Ignore it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gordiegords said: I parked at Aldi's for the cowdenbeath game and now ive just received through the door a penalty charge, £70, £40 if i pay now, did anyone get this charge or just me for being daft and thinking i would get away with it. Also, should i pay it? Thanks for any advice. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets/ Good Luck! Edited July 26, 2019 by iainmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, gordiegords said: I parked at Aldi's for the cowdenbeath game and now ive just received through the door a penalty charge, £70, £40 if i pay now, did anyone get this charge or just me for being daft and thinking i would get away with it. Also, should i pay it? Thanks for any advice. Happened to me at Lidls dalry road a few years ago . Didn't pay then got threatened with CCJ . Decided as that was English law not to pay . Never heard from them again . Things may have changed but good chance , because of Scottish law , you won't be liable Edited July 26, 2019 by johnthomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, gordiegords said: I parked at Aldi's for the cowdenbeath game and now ive just received through the door a penalty charge, £70, £40 if i pay now, did anyone get this charge or just me for being daft and thinking i would get away with it. Also, should i pay it? Thanks for any advice. Long story short ignore it. In England the ticket can be enforced to the registered owner of the car but in Scotland they have to determine who was driving so dont reply under any circumstances. You’ll get reminders and chasers and threats for a few then it will stop. Unless its a letter from a court its bullshit no matter what it threatens regarding CCJ or credit files. They get your DVLA details and try it on as many as possible who fold. Oh and be prepared for moaning arses telling you its your own fault on private land blah blah selfish blah blah. Edited July 26, 2019 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 My mate parked in the same car park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Ignore and do not engage at all. Wife's managed to do it a couple of times at the Aldi in Bathgate. Couple of letters through the door then you'll never hear from them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I got 8 letters for one of these invoices. Never replied, never heard anything since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Wee roll of black electrical tape and adjust your number plate before entering or leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Keep it in case you run out of bog roll bud. All it’s good for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 thanks folks very handy to know, i'll hopefully see it through and ignore all the ones comeing through my letterbox, hope i dont crumble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 How did Aldi play ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, gordiegords said: thanks folks very handy to know, i'll hopefully see it through and ignore all the ones comeing through my letterbox, hope i dont crumble! You might also get letters, supposedly from debt collectors. Ignore these too, it's just a ploy some parking companies use. I've had a few of them over the years, and there's never any follow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col1874 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Seeking legal advice from an online football related firm isn't really a wise idea. Chances are, you'll not hear anything, but court action is possible if you ignore threats - take a look at this case where the driver ended up having to pay £24k because of a parking ticket. https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=a48631a7-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7 The signs clearly states the car park rules and a time limit and that is enough of a defence for the parking firm to take court action. They probably won't take action but only you can decide if that is a risk worth taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Col1874 said: Seeking legal advice from an online football related firm isn't really a wise idea. Chances are, you'll not hear anything, but court action is possible if you ignore threats - take a look at this case where the driver ended up having to pay £24k because of a parking ticket. https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=a48631a7-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7 The signs clearly states the car park rules and a time limit and that is enough of a defence for the parking firm to take court action. They probably won't take action but only you can decide if that is a risk worth taking. Having skimmed the opinion I'm guessing the parking company were able to account for 245 days the person had parked there at £100 per day and that's why they came to the figure of £24,500. The defender even agreed to that amount if she were found liable, which I personally find to be an insane position to take, legally speaking. Anyway, your example was cost-effective to pursue through the courts, and that's why there's a case for it. I find it hard to imagine £70 would be. You're right though, that a risk, however small it may be when we're talking of a single, two-figure charge, does exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 14 hours ago, Jamboelite said: Long story short ignore it. In England the ticket can be enforced to the registered owner of the car but in Scotland they have to determine who was driving so dont reply under any circumstances. You’ll get reminders and chasers and threats for a few then it will stop. Unless its a letter from a court its bullshit no matter what it threatens regarding CCJ or credit files. They get your DVLA details and try it on as many as possible who fold. Oh and be prepared for moaning arses telling you its your own fault on private land blah blah selfish blah blah. I would moan if someone parked on my driveway which is private land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Col1874 said: Seeking legal advice from an online football related firm isn't really a wise idea. Chances are, you'll not hear anything, but court action is possible if you ignore threats - take a look at this case where the driver ended up having to pay £24k because of a parking ticket. https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=a48631a7-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7 The signs clearly states the car park rules and a time limit and that is enough of a defence for the parking firm to take court action. They probably won't take action but only you can decide if that is a risk worth taking. it was over 200 tickets they got her for not one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I've had quiet a few if these and usually after 1 or 2 letters they give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Col1874 said: Seeking legal advice from an online football related firm isn't really a wise idea. Chances are, you'll not hear anything, but court action is possible if you ignore threats - take a look at this case where the driver ended up having to pay £24k because of a parking ticket. https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=a48631a7-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7 The signs clearly states the car park rules and a time limit and that is enough of a defence for the parking firm to take court action. They probably won't take action but only you can decide if that is a risk worth taking. The problem with that case was the lady in question didn't follow the advice given in this thread. She identified herself as the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I would moan if someone parked on my driveway which is private land. You could moan, but likely wouldn’t be able to do much, if anything, about it. You certainly couldn’t enforce a charge on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, gjcc said: You could moan, but likely wouldn’t be able to do much, if anything, about it. You certainly couldn’t enforce a charge on them. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Correct. Definitely be keeping an eye out for them returning though. Or parking so they can’t get out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Write "NOT AT THIS ADDRESS, RETURN TO SENDER" on the envelope and chuck it back in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Good article, dated 2017, from Thompsons Solicitors: 'The law on private parking tickets in Scotland' https://www.thompsons-scotland.co.uk/blog/36-road-traffic-accident/2614-private-parking-tickets-in-scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hmmm, when I received the fine through the post I noticed there was photos of the car attached, am I being naive here but it seems they’re serious about this. Maybe I should just pay it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, gordiegords said: Hmmm, when I received the fine through the post I noticed there was photos of the car attached, am I being naive here but it seems they’re serious about this. Maybe I should just pay it. Not uncommon to have photos on these things. As said above, ignore it and any subsequent comms from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 In future, maybe not park like a dick and you won't have the stress of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRib Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Unless it’s been issued by the police or local council then just ignore it. They’ll send you a few more but just keep ignoring them then they’ll give up trying to contact you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 9 hours ago, IronJambo said: In future, maybe not park like a dick and you won't have the stress of it No need for that, he's said he was daft, so why put the boot in to him when he's down ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: No need for that, he's said he was daft, so why put the boot in to him when he's down ? I'm not sticking the boot in, I'm just telling it like it is. The parking conditions are made clear at those places so a conscious choice is made to park there. Being hit by a charge isn't a surprise. Choices are simple. Pay the fine or stress every time a letter comes in the door. Both avoidable by not parking like a George Hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, IronJambo said: I'm not sticking the boot in, I'm just telling it like it is. The parking conditions are made clear at those places so a conscious choice is made to park there. Being hit by a charge isn't a surprise. Choices are simple. Pay the fine or stress every time a letter comes in the door. Both avoidable by not parking like a George Hunt. He knows how it is - he took a chance and I think he has learnt his lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Keeper liability is likely to come to Scotland soon as closing the loophole and putting us in line with england is being thought about by the Scottish Government and advocated by politicians such as Murdo Fraser and Pete wishart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 14 hours ago, gordiegords said: Hmmm, when I received the fine through the post I noticed there was photos of the car attached, am I being naive here but it seems they’re serious about this. Maybe I should just pay it. It no doubt says in the letter that they are sending it to you as the registered keeper of the vehicle. And they will be asking you to name the driver and get them to pay the 'fine'. You are under no legal obligation to declare who the driver is. It is up to them to prove who the driver was and enforce the contract they claim the driver entered into when they parked. If you don't say you were the driver then they can't charge you the fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 Thanks everyone for your helpful and friendly replies I’ll keep and eye on this over the coming weeks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 20 hours ago, gordiegords said: Hmmm, when I received the fine through the post I noticed there was photos of the car attached, am I being naive here but it seems they’re serious about this. Maybe I should just pay it. I've got a couple of cracking pics of (parkingeye) my car entering and leaving an empty car park at the airport whilst waiting to pick up another another poster for the CF, they got dingeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 7 hours ago, SUTOL said: It no doubt says in the letter that they are sending it to you as the registered keeper of the vehicle. And they will be asking you to name the driver and get them to pay the 'fine'. You are under no legal obligation to declare who the driver is. It is up to them to prove who the driver was and enforce the contract they claim the driver entered into when they parked. If you don't say you were the driver then they can't charge you the fine. Recently got one (now on fourth letter) but I wasn’t driving the car, and I have evidence to prove that. Part of me wants to respond to tell them that (genuinely to save them the time and effort of pursuing action against the wrong person) but simply don’t want to engage with them to give them anything to use to go after the actual driver. See them in court, I guess 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 27/07/2019 at 23:21, gordiegords said: Hmmm, when I received the fine through the post I noticed there was photos of the car attached, am I being naive here but it seems they’re serious about this. Maybe I should just pay it. Hey - this happens often. They take photos as part of the number plate recognition in order to then get your address from the DVLA. Look over the info provided by other posters and make a decision that you feel happy about - I wouldn't pay it. It is also worth noting that the story someone posted where someone was taken to court was won by the parking company because they were able to show that (time after time) the person had been warned (through letters) and they chose to ignore all requests to stop parking. A one off isn't worth their time taking you to court, if you are racking up tens of thousands in their "charges" they will chase you, this is a one off and hence why I would not pay it. When you get a letter from them - read it, take a few seconds and remember that the letter is written with language that is intended to panic and manipulate you. Don't fall for their con trick with threats. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Surely having to go to Aldi, Cowdenbeath is punishment enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 28/07/2019 at 19:57, FinnBarr Saunders said: I've got a couple of cracking pics of (parkingeye) my car entering and leaving an empty car park at the airport whilst waiting to pick up another another poster for the CF, they got dingeed I can't name the poster I was picking up as he hasn't posted on this thread but he may have a Molenbeek badge as his avatar. Garry mate, I've ignored the £60 prompt payment fine on your behalf and I've ignored the £100 fine for you too, hey, thats what mates are for but now a kid-on Debt Recovery (owned by Parkingeye) are onto you and the fine has risen to £170. Not sure if you want to pay this or brazen it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: I can't name the poster I was picking up as he hasn't posted on this thread but he may have a Molenbeek badge as his avatar. Garry mate, I've ignored the £60 prompt payment fine on your behalf and I've ignored the £100 fine for you too, hey, thats what mates are for but now a kid-on Debt Recovery (owned by Parkingeye) are onto you and the fine has risen to £170. Not sure if you want to pay this or brazen it out! So....Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlabalaba Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I've just had a letter through the door , parking at Tesco , in at 10.15 , out at 16.50 , shows a photo of me and my boy , only stay 2 minutes away , looks like I can't shop twice in one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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