Debut 4 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 7 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said: To be fair, that's the only knees most people have! You just Baracked, Barack, with that joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim747 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jambo-Fox said: Why have Hearts had so many injuries this season? Is it the fault of the; medical dept nutritionists physios training regime too hard physically weak players artificial surfaces at training centre mentally weak players players throwing a ‘sickie’ or just bad luck???? Physios most likely I sometimes wonder if the boots are to blame, never heard of so many injured players, maybe Blades instead of Studs might have something to do with it, who knows. Something isn't right. Another way out thought... plastic or synthetic boots instead of the old fashioned leather, combined with plastic or hybrid pitches. Is it possible that static electricity could be causing problems with leg muscles etc? Just a thought. Edited April 19, 2019 by jim747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I never knew there was so many medical experts on JKB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Injury news today re cup final probably works in our favour. Keena and Morrison our for us and Christie now def out for them. Christie probably a bigger miss for them than Morrison and Keena for us based on contribution this season. We just need USA to call up Weah for u-20 tournament as reported yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACK TO THE FUTURE Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Fort Vallance said: Not suggesting it's related to training. But the number of non contact injuries, particularly knee injuries is a concern. Surely needs to be looked at. I have said this for ages,the amount of non contact injuries is very worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, been here before said: The training pitches at the Oriam. Are they natural or hybrid? Swamp with broken bottles and holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Injury news today re cup final probably works in our favour. Keena and Morrison our for us and Christie now def out for them. Christie probably a bigger miss for them than Morrison and Keena for us based on contribution this season. We just need USA to call up Weah for u-20 tournament as reported yesterday. Christie out means Rogic will play. Fabby. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dee Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 The Club must have done some kind of statistical analysis on the amount and type of injuries we've been getting. Calling us 'unlucky', doesn't work. Definitely a question for the AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambosdad Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Morrison was injured playing in reserve game. Not aware of where Keena picked up injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, Mister Dee said: The Club must have done some kind of statistical analysis on the amount and type of injuries we've been getting. Calling us 'unlucky', doesn't work. Definitely a question for the AGM. The question was asked at the last AGM and Levein went into great detail about all the injuries; every one different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 We need to sign another 22 players this summer. If 17 of them get injured then at least we can add 5 to the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 There is still 5 games to go before cup final as well ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Craig Wighton will step up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva hate Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Ryan Christie out for the season as well. Limits their options a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, viva hate said: Ryan Christie out for the season as well. Limits their options a bit. As someone has already alluded to,Rogic to come in.Better player in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) Somebody recently ran a list of how this is nothing to do with our training methods due to the manner in which the majority of the injuries have occurred I find it genuinely bizarre that fans of a club are so keen to so regularly try and stick a knife in the back of the club they support. Weird Edited April 19, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatlad Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Laughable anyone saying this is down to training or the ability of of medical staff. This is real life, every injury has been different and hardly any during training. Factor of football stop trying to dig out negatives within the clubs set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 hours ago, reaths17 said: jimmy dunne got injured before he left Everyone is talking about non contact injuries and the way we train being the cause of injuries. I can't speak for all of the injuries on the list or claim to know what caused them (like the experts on here ). I do know Dunne was injured in training by an overzealous challenge in by one of our younger players. Uche was injured when a Motherwell player stood on his foot and he turned one way and the Motherwell player turned the other thus damaging the top of his foot with the stud of his opponents boot. Lots of people still think it was the challenge with the Motherwell keeper but it wasn't. Haring had a hernia issue (possibly before he signed for us?). Berra tore a hamstring which we all saw in the Celtic game and he was clearly lunging to try to block a shot at goal. So without having any real knowledge of the rest of the injuries can anyone else break them down into what they were and if they were definitely non contact and caused by training please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, viva hate said: Ryan Christie out for the season as well. Limits their options a bit. Thumb could be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Queensferry - somebody already did on another anti-club conspiracy thread and proved the conspiracy theorists were talking bullshit. Cant remember the thread properly but I’m sure that poster will be along soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Clerry Jambo said: Thumb could be back He hasn’t done so well against us recently and he’ll be massively out of match fitness. Not as worried about Thumb as I used to be. Edited April 19, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, The Treasurer said: I never knew there was so many medical experts on JKB This, its hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Barack said: What, in the blue monkey's cock...? Roll up David Vanecek & Malaury Martin... Is he finally going to redeem himself...? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-e-a-r-t-s Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 With Naismith and Keena ruled out for the final, the script is written for Vanecek to score his first goal for Hearts in the dying minutes of the final to lift the trophy Hearts 2 - 1 Celtic Lee (44), Vanecek (89), Brown (56) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Christie out means Rogic will play. Fabby. ? Yet to prove he is over his injury but the more they have out the merrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18Jambo_dave74 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Whilst I probably wouldn't have either player in a first choice team at the moment it is a blow to lose them both as they both offer a bit of pace/energy that we sorely lack in the squad. Would have been useful to have them on the bench to call on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Somebody recently ran a list of how this is nothing to do with our training methods due to the manner in which the majority of the injuries have occurred I find it genuinely bizarre that fans of a club are so keen to so regularly try and stick a knife in the back of the club they support. Weird Yes, part and parcel of a growing issue we have. Flares, coins, trouble in N and G, bother at away matches, supposed self-inflicted injuries (by the manager), continual negativity on here etc. Hard to believe changing the manager will sort out all or any of those medium to long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavman81 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Levein is quoted today that we are going to review our training processes to see if there is an underlying issue.... I’ve never heard of anything like this before so would appear that the club are now genuinely concerned and that there could, and I stress could, be a problem behind the scenes. If true, incompetence doesn’t even begin to cover it and we may have contributed to our own downfall this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Too much time on the Orium pitch??? Only saying as we hear how players can't play on the plastic pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, h-e-a-r-t-s said: With Naismith and Keena ruled out for the final, the script is written for Vanecek to score his first goal for Hearts in the dying minutes of the final to lift the trophy Hearts 2 - 1 Celtic Lee (44), Vanecek (89), Brown (56) When was naismith ruled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: Everyone is talking about non contact injuries and the way we train being the cause of injuries. I can't speak for all of the injuries on the list or claim to know what caused them (like the experts on here ). I do know Dunne was injured in training by an overzealous challenge in by one of our younger players. Uche was injured when a Motherwell player stood on his foot and he turned one way and the Motherwell player turned the other thus damaging the top of his foot with the stud of his opponents boot. Lots of people still think it was the challenge with the Motherwell keeper but it wasn't. Haring had a hernia issue (possibly before he signed for us?). Berra tore a hamstring which we all saw in the Celtic game and he was clearly lunging to try to block a shot at goal. So without having any real knowledge of the rest of the injuries can anyone else break them down into what they were and if they were definitely non contact and caused by training please? Contact or no contact makes little difference. A poor training regime makes a player liable to pick up any type of injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It doesn’t even shock me anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Get Vanecek playing every game til final -- and don't give him any time off - he needs to work his arcse off to get back in the team and make it up to the fans who ultimately pay his wages. Ban him from social media too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japanjambo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, jambosdad said: Morrison was injured playing in reserve game. Not aware of where Keena picked up injury. Keena picked up the injury in the semi final last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 59 minutes ago, h-e-a-r-t-s said: With Naismith and Keena ruled out for the final, the script is written for Vanecek to score his first goal for Hearts in the dying minutes of the final to lift the trophy Hearts 2 - 1 Celtic Lee (44), Vanecek (89), Brown (56) Woah woah, what have I missed. Naismith ruled out for the final? Levein said last week he could be back for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Fort Vallance said: Not suggesting it's related to training. But the number of non contact injuries, particularly knee injuries is a concern. Surely needs to be looked at. Morrison picked his injury up in a reserve game not sure where Keena got his though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 How people are still of the delusion that it has nothing to do with medical team or coaching staff is beyond me. It is like everyday 30 people eat at the same restaurant and people keep getting food poisoning and no-one is even questioning the restaurant, chef or food. It's the stuff they buy outside the restaurant that is making them ill ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Morrison picked his injury up in a reserve game not sure where Keena got his though. Might be a long term issue Keena was subbed due to injury on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: How people are still of the delusion that it has nothing to do with medical team or coaching staff is beyond me. It is like everyday 30 people eat at the same restaurant and people keep getting food poisoning and no-one is even questioning the restaurant, chef or food. It's the stuff they buy outside the restaurant that is making them ill ffs! Absolute shite as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Absolute shite as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, fatlad said: Laughable anyone saying this is down to training or the ability of of medical staff. This is real life, every injury has been different and hardly any during training. Factor of football stop trying to dig out negatives within the clubs set up Just because the injuries are different doesn't mean something else isn't increasing people's likelihood to pick up injuries. Surely you know that yourself in your own life; if you overtrain, have a poor diet or insufficient recovery you start to pick up more injuries and they are not always the same. What might usually be a couple of days off with bruising can turn into long terms set backs if not handled correctly or recovery when training was poor; the number of these injuries that are turning into long periods out should be of concern. That being said, I think this is just bad luck but it would be unprofessional for the club not to look into it to see if something was increasing our players susceptibility to injuries. Which I'm sure they have done. Edited April 19, 2019 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: That must be you because I know they medical and physio team are excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: That must be you because I know they medical and physio team are excellent. As the saying goes "the proof is in the pudding". The pudding is constantly injured. Even at youth level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, i8hibsh said: As the saying goes "the proof is in the pudding". The pudding is constantly injured. Even at youth level. You are talking absolute bollox as usual and yet again trying to blame the club. You should just sod off and whine about another sport. You clearly hate HMFC and football (not that you know much about either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, Seymour M Hersh said: You are talking absolute bollox as usual and yet again trying to blame the club. You should just sod off and whine about another sport. You clearly hate HMFC and football (not that you know much about either). Yeah, you got me - I hate HMFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, i8hibsh said: Yeah, you got me - I hate HMFC. Anyone reading your gash posts over the years would be hard pressed to think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Anyone reading your gash posts over the years would be hard pressed to think otherwise. I just criticise when due and compliment when due. Imo the medical staff and the coaching staff are not fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Imo the medical staff and the coaching staff are not fit for purpose. And I will ask again as you disappeared after posting similar on a previous thread. Which similar resourced club, in your opinion, have medical and coaching staff fit for purpose and what specifically have you observed them doing which we should replicate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, JamboGraham said: And I will ask again as you disappeared after posting similar on a previous thread. Which similar resourced club, in your opinion, have medical and coaching staff fit for purpose and what specifically have you observed them doing which we should replicate? I would say most as no-one seems to have our 'bad luck'. Bad luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I would say most as no-one seems to have our 'bad luck'. Bad luck It looks like you have attached an image instead of an answer by mistake. Do you need me to rephrase? Edited April 19, 2019 by JamboGraham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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