Cade Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) The methods of registering to vote. The methods of actually voting. The methods of collecting those votes. The methods of counting those votes. The method of calculating how many members of Congress represent how many people. The method of calculating how many members of the Senate represent how many people. The method of how the Electoral College works in choosing a President. The method of calculating how many College votes a state gets. The method of how the President appoints Supreme Court members based on political allegiance. The entire US political system is complete bollocks from grass roots to the Oval Office. Edited November 5, 2020 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, Justin Z said: We Yanks are propagandised from birth to conflate capitalism with democracy and socialism with totalitarianism. Some of us eventually open our eyes. Alfa has no such excuse, he's just . . . special. Has Alfa ever claimed to be American? I genuinely don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: Omg 🤯 I hope she gets help I hope she gets help I hope she gets help I hope she gets help I pray she gets help I pray she gets help I hope she gets help I pray she gets help 🤪 She should strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, until she gets the help she needs. Seriously though, that's not a prayer, that's deluded ranting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: Has Alfa ever claimed to be American? I genuinely don't know. No I don't think so. I want to say he talked about getting radicalised by going and seeing Billy Graham in Scotland in the 70s or 80s, but I may be remembering another poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: Has Alfa ever claimed to be American? I genuinely don't know. Has he ever claimed to be human?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luckyBatistuta Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, tian447 said: She should strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, until she gets the help she needs. Seriously though, that's not a prayer, that's deluded ranting. You feel like you’re watching someone unraveling before your eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 It's quite concerning that despite everything Trump has said and done. He still got about 48/49% of the vote. That said, America seems to vote on the basis of, 'they don't like the other guy' . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Cade said: The methods of registering to vote. The methods of actually voting. The methods of collecting those votes. The methods of counting those votes. The method of calculating how many members of Congress represent how many people. The method of calculating how many members of the Senate represent how many people. The method of how the Electoral College works in choosing a President. The method of calculating how many College votes a state gets. The method of how the President appoints Supreme Court members based on political allegiance. The entire US political system is complete bollocks from grass roots to the Oval Office. Absolute shitefest of a democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Justin Z said: No I don't think so. I want to say he talked about getting radicalised by going and seeing Billy Graham in Scotland in the 70s or 80s, but I may be remembering another poster. OK, that would make sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cruyff said: It's quite concerning that despite everything Trump has said and done. He still got about 48/49% of the vote. That said, America seems to vote on the basis of, 'they don't like the other guy' . Hes he not also increased his vote amongst ethnic voters and women, on the newd it said the only group he hasn't increased his vote in is white men? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Cade said: The methods of registering to vote. The methods of actually voting. The methods of collecting those votes. The methods of counting those votes. The method of calculating how many members of Congress represent how many people. The method of calculating how many members of the Senate represent how many people. The method of how the Electoral College works in choosing a President. The method of calculating how many College votes a state gets. The method of how the President appoints Supreme Court members based on political allegiance. The entire US political system is complete bollocks from grass roots to the Oval Office. Might be while the U.S is classed as a flawed democracy in the Democracy Index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, JJ93 said: No probs! I am still not sure who will win. I think Trump will win Georgia, PA, Alaska, and NC. He might win Arizona too. Will we find out today? Tomorrow? If Trump loses there will be a recount most likely. You're off your rocker if you genuinely think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The gap in Penn state has gone from 174k to 141k, it was at 600k, its going to flip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Hes he not also increased his vote amongst ethnic voters and women, on the newd it said the only group he hasn't increased his vote in is white men? Yeah, I believe that is also the case. What this election shows is how bias the media are in the UK. They've misreported this. Most of us would have expected Biden to win probably a bit more comfortably given how Trump is portrayed by the UK media. Clearly not the case, he's still very popular where it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redjambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said: The gap in Penn state has gone from 174k to 141k, it was at 600k, its going to flip Where are you getting that 141k figure from? I'm seeing about 164k at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, redjambo said: Where are you getting that 141k figure from? I'm seeing about 164k at the moment. Just updated to 141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Phamism Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Gone said: Just updated to 141 2 minutes ago, redjambo said: Where are you getting that 141k figure from? I'm seeing about 164k at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Gone said: Just updated to 141 Ah, changing rapidly. Now 136. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 There's a curve towards Biden winning in Pennsylvania and a curve towards Trump closing the gap in Arizona. Nail biting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, redjambo said: Where are you getting that 141k figure from? I'm seeing about 164k at the moment. multiple sites, CNN just updated that from the 164k just in the last few moments Georgia has 90k votes to count but will call it probably 10:30 ET Arizona has 275k votes to count, that wont be today Nevada has Vegas to count, but will give an update noon ET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Hugh Phamism said: Thanks Hugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Hagar the Horrible said: multiple sites, CNN just updated that from the 164k just in the last few moments Georgia has 90k votes to count but will call it probably 10:30 ET Arizona has 275k votes to count, that wont be today Nevada has Vegas to count, but will give an update noon ET Cheers Hagar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Yeah, I believe that is also the case. What this election shows is how bias the media are in the UK. They've misreported this. Most of us would have expected Biden to win probably a bit more comfortably given how Trump is portrayed by the UK media. Clearly not the case, he's still very popular where it matters. Politics Live was very interesting today, pretty much said the Dem's really need to get a handle on why he's so popular and field a candidate next time that can win from the American heartlands, also pointing at the media's coverage and how the blue collar vote has become tired of being lectured to. Also a similarly interesting piece on CNN saying the same from a (I think) the Democratic Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 As it stands in Penn, there is stil 750k votes, if Biden takes 60% of those he wins the white house at this time yesterday he needed 68% of the remaining count. If I was Trump I would be packing the golf clubs into the back of his Volvo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Phildelphia & Bucks County numbers ticking up. Bucks has just gone red to blue. Dems are now 1/5 on to flip Penn with more postal votes arriving all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Phildelphia & Bucks County numbers ticking up. Bucks has just gone red to blue. thats a 3k reversal, looking at the close calls now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 actually surprised America hasn’t yet had a second civil war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Barack said: Phildelphia & Bucks County numbers ticking up. Bucks has just gone red to blue. Monroe county 2k and 81% LeHigh county 3k and 75% count Also now its a 136K gap in Penn overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Yeah, I believe that is also the case. What this election shows is how bias the media are in the UK. They've misreported this. Most of us would have expected Biden to win probably a bit more comfortably given how Trump is portrayed by the UK media. Clearly not the case, he's still very popular where it matters. That springs off of the US media though, and this sums it up really well . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 have a look at georgia there has been an update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, Cruyff said: It's quite concerning that despite everything Trump has said and done. He still got about 48/49% of the vote. That said, America seems to vote on the basis of, 'they don't like the other guy' . Boris Johnson won a GE last year on similar grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Barack said: Just checked my 270towin prediction. Putting the difference i claimed on here, down to early drinking...😬 This is what I originally guessed at: Georgia might still happen. Most of the uncounted ballots there are around Atlanta, heavily Democratic leaning. The Dems are 7/4 on to win there and Repubs 7/4 against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said: have a look at georgia there has been an update I'm still seeing a 19k difference - what have you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Barack said: Yeah. Think 290 is still on, if even lost Nevada & Arizona. Georgia, Pennsylvania & Maine's 1 gives it 290 too.🤔 I'll take 290 by any permutation. I just want the orange despot out the WH by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I still think Arizona is going to Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Cade said: The methods of registering to vote. The methods of actually voting. The methods of collecting those votes. The methods of counting those votes. The method of calculating how many members of Congress represent how many people. The method of calculating how many members of the Senate represent how many people. The method of how the Electoral College works in choosing a President. The method of calculating how many College votes a state gets. The method of how the President appoints Supreme Court members based on political allegiance. The entire US political system is complete bollocks from grass roots to the Oval Office. Also, America encourages this attitude of thinking that anything which doesn’t quite go your way or isn’t quite as it should be is a flagrant breach of your civil liberties (and either worth campaigning about or going to court over). Does any country in the world refer to the constitution so much? It’s the instant go-to for anyone who isn’t getting what they want. Look at these dicks who observe the poll counts. Yes, they should be allowed in but is it really worth rioting over?* *This has actually been a great example of how Americans react when they feel like they’re about to lose. ‘But but but, the constitution etc’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, tian447 said: She should strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, and strike, until she gets the help she needs. Seriously though, that's not a prayer, that's deluded ranting. "Talking in tongues" I don't remember the exact story in the bible where talking in tongues was a thing but I'm prepared to bet that it wasn't to do with jabbering a bunch of incoherent shite with the "aim" of seeing an offensive orange geriatric get into the most powerful position in the western world. 46 minutes ago, redjambo said: Ah, changing rapidly. Now 136. Cheers. ...with somewhere between 600 and 650k votes to be counted. 61% of them going Biden's way will see him take Pennsylvania. Where's the most up-to-date count available? I've been looking at the Economist and the BBC and have a feeling I'm a couple of hours behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Justin Z said: That springs off of the US media though, and this sums it up really well . . . Yeah, Dems probably thought they had the Latin vote in the bag, given how Trump has addressed the immigration issue. Forgetting that these folk or, their relatives were probably opponents of Socialist Governments in Central America and want to be as far removed as possible from a left leaning candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said: Georgia might still happen. Most of the uncounted ballots there are around Atlanta, heavily Democratic leaning. The Dems are 7/4 on to win there and Repubs 7/4 against. And Savannah as wellI believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, JJ93 said: I still think Arizona is going to Trump. Nope. It's close. Just Yuma really outstanding but he doesn't have enough votes. https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/18/0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Donny's tweeting in ALL CAPS again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cruyff said: ... their relatives were probably opponents of Socialist Governments in Central America and want to be as far removed as possible from a left leaning candidate. I'd argue that they could hardly get much further from a left-leaning candidate even if they voted Biden. Other than the baldy-heided, satsuma-faced arsehole. This entire misconception of 'socialist' absolutely does my nut in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Boof said: I'd argue that they could hardly get much further from a left-leaning candidate even if they voted Biden. Other than the baldy-heided, satsuma-faced arsehole. This entire misconception of 'socialist' absolutely does my nut in! Totally just slightly very slightly more left but def more right than centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Boof said: I'd argue that they could hardly get much further from a left-leaning candidate even if they voted Biden. Other than the baldy-heided, satsuma-faced arsehole. This entire misconception of 'socialist' absolutely does my nut in! That's how they may see it though. But I agree, Biden would be a Tory in this Country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Cruyff said: That's how they may see it though. But I agree, Biden would be a Tory in this Country. Definitely not. I have this conversation a lot with my American friends who say the Dems are like the Tories - they are not. Economically they are so left wing. Although having said that, look at what Boris has done to the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, JJ93 said: Definitely not. I have this conversation a lot with my American friends who say the Dems are like the Tories - they are not. Economically they are so left wing. Although having said that, look at what Boris has done to the private sector. "They are economically left wing". Who the Tories or the Dems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Nope. It's close. Just Yuma really outstanding but he doesn't have enough votes. https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/18/0 I’d be careful using ‘precincts reporting’ as a guide as that probably doesn’t account for absentee ballots. The media has largely stayed away from using that as a measure this time round as it’s so misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Definitely not. I have this conversation a lot with my American friends who say the Dems are like the Tories - they are not. Economically they are so left wing. Although having said that, look at what Boris has done to the private sector. Not since Clinton got in. Edited November 5, 2020 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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