Maple Leaf Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Whilst that would be pleasing to see, it's not exactly what I meant. He's already used words such as 'undemocratic' and 'coup' against the Democrats, just imagine what he'll say if he gets beat, for one he'll not accept the defeat, so it'll depend on what he says and how his base react to what Trump says. If he loses, and it's a toss-up in my opinion, he will not accept defeat. Remember all his wild accusations of voter fraud in 2016? And that was after he won!!! If he loses in 2020, he'll be shrieking like a jilted teenage girl and the security people will have to drag him out of the Oval Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Zlatanable said: Aye, Billy Graham was far left, true enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 There have been times when he has suggested that if he feels things are not right he will not go. If you listen to his campaign rallies he has desire/intent to be as the Chinese did to beome President for life. If the total support he is getting from Republicans in his Impeachment defence remained anything could happen. I would have been the first in the past to say anyone writing this opinion would have to be insane, but the behaviour in the last week by politicians has changed my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) All they have to do is keep applying pressure and eventually he'll have a massive episode. He'll either have a huge heart attack or stroke or be carried out of the white house in a straightjacket. Failing health concerns, he'll eventually say or do something that even the Republicans cannot tolerate. Edited December 21, 2019 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 A recent speech by Trump: "I've never really understood wind." Ahh, I think. This displays a surprising level of humility and truthfulness I don't think I've seen him display before. This is progress. The very next sentence: "I know windmills very much, I've studied it better than anybody." Yep, that's more like it. As for what follows, not enough cornettes can do it justice. It is terrifying that there are people who think this man is fit to lead a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 https://twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/1210673047088308230 Absolutely love this idea. You just know his tiny hands and huge ego wouldn't be able to take the hit--he would have to testify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 #DonnieisweakerthanHillary! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Watched this thread for ....years Nothing against conservative/Republican folk.... Lincoln, Ronnie but Trump is an absolute ......... Emperors clothes song at primary school............. Everyone frightened to say what a Cu... He is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50931195 trump championing a navy person who was demoted and charged with war crimes. trump overturned his demotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 At the beginning of 2019 I predicted that Trump would not end the year as president. I was wrong. In fact, his approval rating has ticked up slightly, from 41.4 on January 1, to 42.6 today. That's a low approval rating, but it might be enough to get him re-elected, depending on the Democrat nominee and any dirt that might surface during the election campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 old their very soul to this 43 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: At the beginning of 2019 I predicted that Trump would not end the year as president. I was wrong. In fact, his approval rating has ticked up slightly, from 41.4 on January 1, to 42.6 today. That's a low approval rating, but it might be enough to get him re-elected, depending on the Democrat nominee and any dirt that might surface during the election campaign. I have said all along he will not finish his first term. In doing so I never believed the Republcan Party and particularly those members who were so critical of candidate Trump would sell their very souls to this man. The good thing is that he is so unwise that the thing that will beat him is his own mouth and his Twitter account. His popularity remains high among his base but he does seem to be slipping in the minds of other less rabid supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I had just finished typing the above post and went through to have breakfast. While doing so I chose to watch the News on MSNBC. The first item raised was Trumps Tweet marathon during his holiday in Florida. One of his Tweets was a criticism of John McCain, a war hero, a man who served his Country for years. I then checked the responses, he has caused himself some serious crap. Claims the he had approved McCains funeral were stated to be complete lies, the funeral and lying in State were a congressional decision, the Cathedral was used on the approval of the Bishop. Anderson Cooper commented on McCains military and public service. Trump states McCain was bottom of his Academy class, McCain himself admits to being fifth bottom. Anderson compares military service in that Trump went to a boarding school where he wore military uniform that was as close as he got to military, McCain served in Vietnam while Trump did not because of bone spurs, McCain spent years as a POW, and refused early release if his comrades did not get the same. Reports so far unsubstantiated say that more Republicans are considering their support for Trump in the Impeachment hearings, sometimes you just have to know or learn when its best to keep your mouth shut. A problem I confess to sharing with Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 25/12/2019 at 13:56, Ray Gin said: A recent speech by Trump: "I've never really understood wind." Ahh, I think. This displays a surprising level of humility and truthfulness I don't think I've seen him display before. This is progress. The very next sentence: "I know windmills very much, I've studied it better than anybody." Yep, that's more like it. As for what follows, not enough cornettes can do it justice. It is terrifying that there are people who think this man is fit to lead a country. Just watched this. What an absolute clown; it's just rambling nonsense. Unfortunately there will be so many absolute morons out there who believe what he is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 As of December 30, Donald Trump has spent 251 days of his presidency on one of his golf courses. That's one day in five. Not too bad considering that, during the election campaign, he said he would be too busy to play golf. He'll have to come up with new misleading slogans for the 2020 campaign. He can't use: - I'll be too busy to play golf - I'll drain the swamp - I'll build a border wall that Mexico will pay for - I'll spend a trillion dollars on American infrastructure - I'll provide medical coverage for everyone at lower costs - I'll ban Muslims from entering the USA - I'll renegotiate the Iran deal I'm sure he'll make other promises, but who'll believe him this time around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I wish him all the worst for 2020. Everytime he goes for a dump I hope it's hedgehog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: As of December 30, Donald Trump has spent 251 days of his presidency on one of his golf courses. That's one day in five. Not too bad considering that, during the election campaign, he said he would be too busy to play golf. He'll have to come up with new misleading slogans for the 2020 campaign. He can't use: - I'll be too busy to play golf - I'll drain the swamp - I'll build a border wall that Mexico will pay for - I'll spend a trillion dollars on American infrastructure - I'll provide medical coverage for everyone at lower costs - I'll ban Muslims from entering the USA - I'll renegotiate the Iran deal I'm sure he'll make other promises, but who'll believe him this time around? I’m guessing you are not a fan.😂 I do know you need a daily fix attacking the trump(et) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: I'm sure he'll make other promises, but who'll believe him this time around? The same 60-odd million mugs as last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: As of December 30, Donald Trump has spent 251 days of his presidency on one of his golf courses. That's one day in five. Not too bad considering that, during the election campaign, he said he would be too busy to play golf. He'll have to come up with new misleading slogans for the 2020 campaign. He can't use: - I'll be too busy to play golf - I'll drain the swamp - I'll build a border wall that Mexico will pay for - I'll spend a trillion dollars on American infrastructure - I'll provide medical coverage for everyone at lower costs - I'll ban Muslims from entering the USA - I'll renegotiate the Iran deal I'm sure he'll make other promises, but who'll believe him this time around? He will change lock her up to lock him up about biden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) I feel the US and UK are now right-wing bolt holes/Strongholds for the next decade, at least. Edited January 1, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 18 hours ago, obua said: I’m guessing you are not a fan.😂 I do know you need a daily fix attacking the trump(et) Seems like it. Before that last post it had been three days, and I was beginning to suffer from withdrawal symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50979463 that’ll be the war started then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50979463 that’ll be the war started then.. If in trouble, go to war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Looks like the US are at war with Iran then. If Iran exact some sort of revenge, Trump will flatten them. Feels like things are on a knife edge right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I'm utterly dumbfounded. I mean, I am and I'm not. This is Trump we're talking about. A unilateral, unconstitutional action taken for his perceived personal benefit with literally zero contemplation of the bigger picture and consequences for America's best interests? Nothing new. I'm still utterly dumbfounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Zero principles, zero ethics. Nothing but sheer and unadulterated self-interest. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260421157201784832 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, cosanostra said: Looks like the US are at war with Iran then. If Iran exact some sort of revenge, Trump will flatten them. Feels like things are on a knife edge right now. He'll try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, Justin Z said: I'm utterly dumbfounded. I mean, I am and I'm not. This is Trump we're talking about. A unilateral, unconstitutional action taken for his perceived personal benefit with literally zero contemplation of the bigger picture and consequences for America's best interests? Nothing new. I'm still utterly dumbfounded. No trade deal for the UK if they don't send people to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 He is part owned by the Saud family and Israel, this was always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Whatever Israel wants trump will do. He is killing off all the main guys who fought against isis just because the zionists cannot bear the idea of a stable Iran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, XB52 said: Whatever Israel wants trump will do. He is killing off all the main guys who fought against isis just because the zionists cannot bear the idea of a stable Iran Amazing how this mob are allowed Nukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Trump you’re an abomination of a Human Being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Not sure what the big deal is we've always been at war with Eastasia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenbo Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Wonder what the Iranian response will be. Strike the closest US based assets to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, Kenbo said: Wonder what the Iranian response will be. Strike the closest US based assets to them? Maybe Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab87 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, Kenbo said: Wonder what the Iranian response will be. Strike the closest US based assets to them? Perhaps activating long rumored sleeper cells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Not sure what the big deal is we've always been at war with Eastasia. China and Japan were wars long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, XB52 said: Whatever Israel wants trump will do. He is killing off all the main guys who fought against isis just because the zionists cannot bear the idea of a stable Iran Tbh I doubt even Israel are ecstatic about this one, they’ll likely be the one that receives the retaliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Tbh I doubt even Israel are ecstatic about this one, they’ll likely be the one that receives the retaliation. The Zionist warhawks within (and outwith) Israel will be over the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Justin Z said: The Zionist warhawks within (and outwith) Israel will be over the moon. Their leader is up on charges, anaw. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Their leader is up on charges, anaw. Coincidence? 🤔 🤔 🤔 Hmm indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 18/12/2019 at 19:17, bobsharp said: Nearly all the President I have lived through have had their deficiencies. It goes with the job. Roosevelt got stuck in a war he really wanted to avoid, unfortunately Japan attaked and they were in. Korea happened, Americans lost a lot of young men, but no alternative. Vietnam a debacle mainly the fault of Johnson and his cohorts, a lot of young men died, others who dodged the draft were criticised. A mistake and lots of misery Nixon, Bush 1 and 2, the father stepped in when Iraq attac ked a neighbour, it had to be done, he stopped when mission accomplished, I feel the son felt his dad had been mischaracterised and when he had the chance which was basically a false pretense WMD's went in and whopped Iraq good. Clinton, Obama, had their moments but not quite so devastating. Now for Trump. There is no doubt he is in Putins pocket. He is kissing the ass of Kim, and more ass kissing of China. He is a proven liar, a serial adulterer a demander of loyalty and returning none. He envies the prenamed Dictators their power and control, and I believe if reelected he will set wheels in motion to become one of them. Even the worst of the previous named including Nixon have had their moments of being Presidential I have never seen one from Trump. I have concerns for the future generations because I feel Trump thinks he will be one of the few, and to gain this he is taking actions that are for self gratification an extreme danger to U.S. security, isolating himself from such as Europe, and even Canada, and will find that people like Putin do not maintain their position by honesty, loyalty, and a desire to have another strong leader, they want what they got an easily manipulated narcissist who revels in being told how good he is, and needs constant ego building. How will it all end, Russia, North Korea mebbe China will gain the nuclear advantage they want and when they get it they will not hesitate to use it. Trump talks a big story but when the baloon goes up, he will go down into the bunker and quake in fear like he did with his bone spurs during Vietnam./ The idea that the Commies (or ex-Commies or Muslim states) are trigger happy when it comes to the use of Nuclear weapons has no real evidence (which is the only state ever to use them?) but drove US policy for most of the period since WW2, with the imaginary "missile gap" used by Kennedy and others to create a massively over-armed US super power intervening all over the globe in defence against an imagined global Commie conspiracy … the idea that Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese etc etc communists were engaged in a common war against the west. And that even left wing socialists in South America, Africa, Asia … even Western Europe, were all part of a grand conspiracy or at least common cause. Trump is dangerous but so too was Kennedy. The US could feel free to put nuclear missiles on the Soviet border but when Russia did the same 90 miles from the US border Kennedy in response took the world to the brink of nuclear war. It was Kennedy with his pledge to "go anywhere, bear any burden and any cost" in defence of (an American version of) freedom that led to Vietnam and drove the North Vietnamese into the arms of Russia and their traditional enemy China. Trump may be uniquely stupid and personally abhorrent (though he has a few rivals there too) but so far he has been far from unique (nor indeed the worst) in the danger he poses to world peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, SE16 3LN said: Maybe Israel Israel would probably want this to give them an excuse to attack Iran Remember just before the Lockerbie disaster a US fighter plane shot down an Iranian passenger plane and the Ayotolla (sp) said it would rain fire on the US. So Iran might have been involved with lockerbie disaster and something like this might happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: The idea that the Commies (or ex-Commies or Muslim states) are trigger happy when it comes to the use of Nuclear weapons has no real evidence (which is the only state ever to use them?) but drove US policy for most of the period since WW2, with the imaginary "missile gap" used by Kennedy and others to create a massively over-armed US super power intervening all over the globe in defence against an imagined global Commie conspiracy … the idea that Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese etc etc communists were engaged in a common war against the west. And that even left wing socialists in South America, Africa, Asia … even Western Europe, were all part of a grand conspiracy or at least common cause. Trump is dangerous but so too was Kennedy. The US could feel free to put nuclear missiles on the Soviet border but when Russia did the same 90 miles from the US border Kennedy in response took the world to the brink of nuclear war. It was Kennedy with his pledge to "go anywhere, bear any burden and any cost" in defence of (an American version of) freedom that led to Vietnam and drove the North Vietnamese into the arms of Russia and their traditional enemy China. Trump may be uniquely stupid and personally abhorrent (though he has a few rivals there too) but so far he has been far from unique (nor indeed the worst) in the danger he poses to world peace. The United States was certainly the first to use an atomic bomb, transported to Japan by a conventional at the time aircraft. Fortunately because of the allied victories in Europe the Germans who were well on the way to a similar weapon were unable to finish their progress though. It was suggested however that the V 2's were going to be their method of delivery. It is to me having lived through a war with heavy bombers traversing over Edinburgh to plaster Glasgow shipyards contemplating the now as Russia has high speed carriers that can by their speed defeat the present defences of particularly the United States. Iran was well into development of nuclear weapons, and stopped when Obama introduced their disarmament deal which Trump cancelled. They allegedly are well into development again.The United States had aircraft on the way to garner restitution for the Irani downing of a drone President Trump faltered and again allegedly lost his nerve and withdrew these aircraft. Having lived through, and having army recruiters trying to get me to serve in their regiments so I could be used as a replacement in that war, I recall it to some extent also. North Korea were the antagonists attacking the newly acclaimed State of South Korea. Who can say but there is no doubt in my mind if they had been nuclear they would have used it. They did not and used the hordes of their ally China to attac k in numbers when related about by veterans was horrific. There is no argument about who has used nuclear weapons, but what I see as the danger is the North Korean,efforts to become nuclear, and their considerable advancements in delivery methods, the ability as they have now seemingly achieved to deliver to the United States. The evidence garnered by intelligence sources would appear to indicate they are working very comprehensively on their explosive weapons and their delivery systems. As have others you suggest Trump has never threatened Global Peace. I disagree with you totally, I do not disregard your hope that this belief causes you to feel the worlds is in fact safe, that would be wonderful, but the facts to me based on actual experience is that pacifism is seen by others as weakness, and should as such be taken advantage of. I realise that age can affect ones thinking, but I truly believe that, Russia, China, and Donald Trump have some form of world domination in their minds, the threat of a nuclear holocaust possibly enough to achieve this, but a small sample on some that is not highly respected by them Country might be enough. North Korea and Kim are a different story, he is just like I was when I was about twelve, I put on a yellow sweater, played in goal and told everyone I bags Jimmy Brown my Hearts hero. Kim and I both wannabees. Edited January 3, 2020 by bobsharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Not sure what the big deal is we've always been at war with Eastasia. I thought we'd always been at war with Eurasia. I'm so behind the times. Edited January 3, 2020 by redjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, ri Alban said: Amazing how this mob are allowed Nukes. What mob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: What mob? I assume ri means Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons#Other_states_believed_to_possess_nuclear_weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Now you see if there was any sincerity in what the man does you could maybe understand it but if Iran said let's do a trade deal in your favour but let us **** Iraq the dick would sign it off. Edited January 3, 2020 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, bobsharp said: The United States was certainly the first to use an atomic bomb, transported to Japan by a conventional at the time aircraft. Fortunately because of the allied victories in Europe the Germans who were well on the way to a similar weapon were unable to finish their progress though. It was suggested however that the V 2's were going to be their method of delivery. It is to me having lived through a war with heavy bombers traversing over Edinburgh to plaster Glasgow shipyards contemplating the now as Russia has high speed carriers that can by their speed defeat the present defences of particularly the United States. Iran was well into development of nuclear weapons, and stopped when Obama introduced their disarmament deal which Trump cancelled. They allegedly are well into development again.The United States had aircraft on the way to garner restitution for the Irani downing of a drone President Trump faltered and again allegedly lost his nerve and withdrew these aircraft. Having lived through, and having army recruiters trying to get me to serve in their regiments so I could be used as a replacement in that war, I recall it to some extent also. North Korea were the antagonists attacking the newly acclaimed State of South Korea. Who can say but there is no doubt in my mind if they had been nuclear they would have used it. They did not and used the hordes of their ally China to attac k in numbers when related about by veterans was horrific. There is no argument about who has used nuclear weapons, but what I see as the danger is the North Korean,efforts to become nuclear, and their considerable advancements in delivery methods, the ability as they have now seemingly achieved to deliver to the United States. The evidence garnered by intelligence sources would appear to indicate they are working very comprehensively on their explosive weapons and their delivery systems. As have others you suggest Trump has never threatened Global Peace. I disagree with you totally, I do not disregard your hope that this belief causes you to feel the worlds is in fact safe, that would be wonderful, but the facts to me based on actual experience is that pacifism is seen by others as weakness, and should as such be taken advantage of. I realise that age can affect ones thinking, but I truly believe that, Russia, China, and Donald Trump have some form of world domination in their minds, the threat of a nuclear holocaust possibly enough to achieve this, but a small sample on some that is not highly respected by them Country might be enough. North Korea and Kim are a different story, he is just like I was when I was about twelve, I put on a yellow sweater, played in goal and told everyone I bags Jimmy Brown my Hearts hero. Kim and I both wannabees. My post was really picking up Tynieman's earlier question about how historically bad Trump's presidency has been in terms of bloodshed, both American and that of American enemies and indeed allies. I certainly did not mean that "Trump has never threatened (to destroy) Global Peace" merely that so far (so far) he has not matched not just the threat but actuality of other Presidents. Unlike some others including the Bushes and to a degree like Obama's his first instinct (it is true liable to superseded by a brain fart) is not to engage … he does not believe it is America's role to be a world policeman imposing its will and ways on the entire world. Also I don't understand your reference to pacifism … I am certainly not one and think the risk of a pacifist America is rather remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: My post was really picking up Tynieman's earlier question about how historically bad Trump's presidency has been in terms of bloodshed, both American and that of American enemies and indeed allies. I certainly did not mean that "Trump has never threatened (to destroy) Global Peace" merely that so far (so far) he has not matched not just the threat but actuality of other Presidents. Unlike some others including the Bushes and to a degree like Obama's his first instinct (it is true liable to superseded by a brain fart) is not to engage … he does not believe it is America's role to be a world policeman imposing its will and ways on the entire world. Also I don't understand your reference to pacifism … I am certainly not one and think the risk of a pacifist America is rather remote. I hadn't actually meant you when I mentioned pacifism I was thinking more as a general term and to Trumps constant efforts such as his relationships with Kim to maintain peace. As has been proven by Kims latest moves statements etc. Trumps efforts would seem to have been unsuccesful. I accept totally the statement that he has not spilled as others have blood in the Middle East,yet, but some of his policies in the States such as the seperation of children from their parents, and the deaths of some of these children encaged in camps is bloody. His failure to take a strong stance on gun control has been considered a contributory factor to the increase of gun violence. I apologise for my ardent feelings about Trump but I just feel he is a vain, unintelligent fraud, who should never be in the position of power he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 throwing his toys out the pram because someone else won the nobel peace prize for something he claimed was mainly his doing, when in fact the us had minimal effect on the outcome https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-51063149 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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