milky_26 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 i'm thinking about getting into photography and getting an entry level DSLR. Any recommendations? Nikon or Canon? any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Both produce very good camera's with good lens's I have a nikon but it depends on what you want it to do and how the camera feels in your hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Nikon = Hearts Canon = Hibs Nikon makes cameras and Lenses Canon make printers and Photocopiers To be honest it varies from camera to camera. I do know that the Nikon entry level cameras are great for learning on, with good displays. In reality it will make little difference. As David Bailey said, "It's not the camera that takes the picture it's the person". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 cheers guys i have been looking at the nikon d3400 as it has been replaced by the d3500 and is at the bottom end of the price range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Have a play around with them in the shops. I went out with the intention of buying a Nikon and came home with Canon. Something to ponder and it may be different now (but I doubt it). When I was buying ten years ago or so I was told that the motor for running autofocus was in the lens for the Canon but runs from the body in the Nikon. The entry level Canons also use cropped lenses (EFS) which will have compatibly issues if you upgrade to a better camera with a full sensor. EF lenses should work with both though. There may be a similar issue with Nikon but I really wouldn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Above all, learn how to use it. No point in them if you're just going to have it on auto all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, H2 said: Nikon = Hearts Canon = Hibs Nikon makes cameras and Lenses Canon make printers and Photocopiers To be honest it varies from camera to camera. I do know that the Nikon entry level cameras are great for learning on, with good displays. In reality it will make little difference. As David Bailey said, "It's not the camera that takes the picture it's the person". You don't seem to realise that Nikon make printers and scanners and other things as well. Commercial/Pharma/Industrial rather than 'domestic', but they don't just make cameras and lenses. I agree a lot of it is down to individual choice and what the end user wants from the camera though, rather than one brand over another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarkus1981 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Ive got a Nikon D3100 that I never use if your interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Pentax and Sony are probably worth a look as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 7 hours ago, IronJambo said: Above all, learn how to use it. No point in them if you're just going to have it on auto all the time. This. Do not buy a decent camera if you're going to have it set on auto every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 17 hours ago, milky_26 said: i'm thinking about getting into photography and getting an entry level DSLR. Your wife? She into a bit photography? Nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 The lens is often more important than the camera. I got one of those bridge cameras that are meant to be a cross between a compact digital camera and a DSLR. Problem is the lens wasn't interchangeable and it relies heavily on digital zoom rather than optical. Binned within a month. Utter shite. Went and bought a proper canon DSLR. Was pretty happy with it. Spent a few hundred quid on a couple of decent lenses but nothing outrageous, they can set you back thousands, now the best thing I've ever owned. Completely changes the game once you get the right equipment to go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 21 hours ago, SUTOL said: You don't seem to realise that Nikon make printers and scanners and other things as well. Commercial/Pharma/Industrial rather than 'domestic', but they don't just make cameras and lenses. I agree a lot of it is down to individual choice and what the end user wants from the camera though, rather than one brand over another. They make spectacle lenses ( I have a pair :-) ), microscopes and numerous other things, it was an attempt a humour, obvioulsy a bad one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 14:06, H2 said: Nikon = Hearts Canon = Hibs Nikon makes cameras and Lenses Canon make printers and Photocopiers Yes. Thats why you see sports photographers using big white lenses all over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, scottishguy said: Yes. Thats why you see sports photographers using big white lenses all over the world. It's humour buddy, are they the beginners ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 hours ago, H2 said: They make spectacle lenses ( I have a pair ? ), microscopes and numerous other things, it was an attempt a humour, obvioulsy a bad one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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80bob Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Very coincidental. ive just googled looking for the same. i do a lot of driving across Scotland and lucky to see some amazing scenery but would like a decent camera to capture it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Bauld said: The lens is often more important than the camera. I got one of those bridge cameras that are meant to be a cross between a compact digital camera and a DSLR. Problem is the lens wasn't interchangeable and it relies heavily on digital zoom rather than optical. Binned within a month. Utter shite. Went and bought a proper canon DSLR. Was pretty happy with it. Spent a few hundred quid on a couple of decent lenses but nothing outrageous, they can set you back thousands, now the best thing I've ever owned. Completely changes the game once you get the right equipment to go with it. Some bridge cameras are great, if you want something smaller with the versitility. The Nikon B600 for example has an equivelant 24 to 1440mm lens (all optical), which is really quite an amazing range. You'd need quite a few interchangable lenses to achieve that range. I accept full frame lenses are superior, but depending on your budget and what you want to do, it is an option. I suspect if you gave David Bailey the Brdge, he'd still produce better result than me with a DSLR. But havign said all that I agree with your statement "Completely changes the game once you get the right equipment to go with it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky999 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Ive been looking at thsi for a while now and having used Nikon all my time, i was looking at a Nikon D7100 which i could get here in Oz for around $500 body only. I've also seen a D7200 which the guy will sell for $700 but it has been bashed against a rock and the sd casing mount has a bit broken off it, still waiting to hear back if it affects the weather sealing or not. To me its an absoloute bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I cant give advise on what to get but I can say that about 6 years ago I asked the same question on KB. Had a Kodak bridge camera (it was a gift) and wanted to move onto DSLR. I enjoyed taking snaps but also scenic photos and buildings or unusual sites. From a young age I have been interested in looking at and taking images. The best advise I received was to got a shop and handle the camera. I had decided on either a specific Nikon or Canon and on paper preferred the Canon. However once handled, the Nikon felt much better. Cant put in to words the difference but it just felt better. The Canon felt more awkward but to others it might not have. Once bought, the quality of photos improved dramatically. I am no expert on photography by any means but took some time to try different settings ect and it made a difference too. The camera s still going strong - havent upgraded yet thought it is bigger and heavier (like its uers) than modern modles. Edited January 21, 2019 by Carl Fredrickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I know someone selling a Canon 450D and a load of other kit for £250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Carl Fredrickson said: I cant give advise on what to get but I can say that about 6 years ago I asked the same question on KB. Had a Kodak bridge camera (it was a gift) and wanted to move onto DSLR. I enjoyed taking snaps but also scenic photos and buildings or unusual sites. From a young age I have been interested in looking at and taking images. The best advise I received was to got a shop and handle the camera. I had decided on either a specific Nikon or Canon and on paper preferred the Canon. However once handled, the Nikon felt much better. Cant put in to words the difference but it just felt better. The Canon felt more awkward but to others it might not have. Once bought, the quality of photos improved dramatically. I am no expert on photography by any means but took some time to try different settings ect and it made a difference too. The camera s still going strong - havent upgraded yet thought it is bigger and heavier (like its uers) than modern modles. I have to admit that I'm still using my Nikon D40 bought in 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) I started on an entry level Nikon but have only used Canon for DSLRs I've had since. I found the Nikon was an easier camera to use and more forgiving when you didn't quite get it set up right (helpful when your learning from scratch). The Canons I've had seemed a little more complex and you really have to get your settings spot on. You take either great photos or rubbish photos with Canon in my experience, there's no "ok" photos. But as other's have have said, go to the shops and handle them and see what you like best. Also I'd spend a bit less on the body and more on the lenses. The difference between a Canon kit lens and a L Series lens is amazing. Edited January 22, 2019 by The Natural Order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, The Natural Order said: I started on an entry level Nikon but have only used Canon for DSLRs I've had since. I found the Nikon was an easier camera to use and more forgiving when you didn't quite get it set up right (helpful when your learning from scratch). The Canons I've had seemed a little more complex and you really have to get your settings spot on. You take either great photos or rubbish photos with Canon in my experience, there's no "ok" photos. But as other's have have said, go to the shops and handle them and see what you like best. Also I'd spend a bit less on the body and more on the lenses. The difference between a Canon kit lens and a L Series lens is amazing. Agree with the advice on lenses. Most DSLR cameras are sold as kits which usually include a zoom lens in something like the 28-80mm range. They will not be particularly bright (size of widest f-stop) and will compromise on sharpness to facilitate the zoom facility. These lenses will be absolutely fine for general use and will return very good results but, when put alongside a, for example, fixed-focus standard lens with a larger aperture, you will definitely see the difference. For Nikon, Ken Rockwell produces a useful review of the range of lenses. He does say to buy FX (full frame) lenses as they work perfectly well on a DX camera (he explains why). https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/10-best.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Continental Op Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 13:13, milky_26 said: i'm thinking about getting into photography and getting an entry level DSLR. Any recommendations? Nikon or Canon? any advice? In my opinion, Canon have the easier (easiest?) menu system to work through and feel more comfortable in the hand. Having said that, I was still learning new thing about my DSLR after owning it for three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Go into a camera shop like WEX and ask to try different makes like Canon, Nikon, Sony or whatever. Ask to try different lenses with all the camera's and see what feels right for you. Different makes focus differently, some clockwise and some anti-clockwise. Try going through the menus and find out whats suits you. Whatever you decide to buy, have fun learning photography and enjoy wanting to buy better and more expensive lenses than you can probably afford??? Edited January 22, 2019 by scottishguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phage Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 21/01/2019 at 10:24, hmfc_liam06 said: I know someone selling a Canon 450D and a load of other kit for £250. This is the camera I have. Sounds like a good deal... maybe great deal depending on the kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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