superjack Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Sitting watching Scotland just now and I've finally realised something, although ok to watch, compared to football rugby is quite tame and boring. 1 team gets the egg, passes about a bit and then kicks it up the park, then the other team does the same. Really miss football on weekends like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 brilliant tries for Scotland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Suprised at the score. Thought we were in for a hammering now we think we're decent at a sport usually happens . South Africa would be a cracking win if we could get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 International rugby is good and club rugby is shite while club football is good and international football is shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diez Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Give me this over that shite in Albania later any day of the week. Great half of Rugby and 2 brilliant tries from Scotland ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Should have watched France v South Africa last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 I'm not saying I dislike rugby, lived in Gala from age 8 to adulthood and used to watch them if I couldn't get up to tynecastle. I just find it not as entertaining. A lit less skill than proper football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops... Some tidy looking wenches though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, been here before said: Wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops, wee bit of play then it stops... Some tidy looking wenches though. Penalty too, for no reason whatsoever. And the scrums, what a farce they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Really like rugby. More a test of strength, energy and sheer power rather than skill and tactics. Football when played correctly is an art. Rugby is a sport. All too often though, football is just turgid these days. Edited November 17, 2018 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diez Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, superjack said: I'm not saying I dislike rugby, lived in Gala from age 8 to adulthood and used to watch them if I couldn't get up to tynecastle. I just find it not as entertaining. A lit less skill than proper football. Possibly. Stuart Hogg’s running and kicking at times I found pretty damn skillfull though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Never really had an interest until my cousin started playing for Edinburgh and Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I'm trying to take more of an interest, my son has started playing since starting High School, he's got really keen. I can watch the odd international but I'll alway be a football man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Rugby players make football players look like utter wimps. Imagine a footballer getting tackled half as hard!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, scottishguy said: Rugby players make football players look like utter wimps. Imagine a footballer getting tackled half as hard!!! I'd imagine if it was an expected part of the game they would bulk up more and get on with it. Imagine having to use the skill that a winger uses when build like rugby player. It would probably result in players breaking their own ankles trying to turn as quick as a footballer whilst weighing 20 stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I like how 10 rugby players can throwing punches at each other and no one mentions it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 What matters I think is this has been a terrific effort. Gave as good as they've got against a far more talented team than us from what I've seen, Scotland have to play like that every game to have any chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 "Some ill mannered booing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: What matters I think is this has been a terrific effort. Gave as good as they've got against a far more talented team than us from what I've seen, Scotland have to play like that every game to have any chance. I thought we were poor, second half especially. Lost the ball from hand, the ground and from foot today. Shows how far we have come that I'm annoyed by a narrow defeat to South Africa but I do feel we are starting to regress slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Taffin said: I thought we were poor, second half especially. Lost the ball from hand, the ground and from foot today. Shows how far we have come that I'm annoyed by a narrow defeat to South Africa but I do feel we are starting to regress slightly. Agree with most of what you say. Disagree about the regression. Problem today was Finn Russell had an absolutely mare. Nothing came off for him and it cost us. Second half also showed up the gulf in class between our top XV and subs. Harris in particular is so far below international level its unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 A recurring theme with Scotland is them being easy to turn over the ball from. Other teams find it easy to turn over and make it stick. Scotland routinely win turn over ball and are turned over again within seconds. But they competed very well there vs a top side. Worryingly all the major 6 nations opponents they will face are no less good and powerful as South Africa. Scotland need further improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Finn van der Russell had a good game for the Bokke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, superjack said: I'd imagine if it was an expected part of the game they would bulk up more and get on with it. Imagine having to use the skill that a winger uses when build like rugby player. It would probably result in players breaking their own ankles trying to turn as quick as a footballer whilst weighing 20 stone. Get waht your saying, but how many rugby players are 20stone? They hit hard and often, where as footballers crumble at anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, scottishguy said: Get waht your saying, but how many rugby players are 20stone? They hit hard and often, where as footballers crumble at anything. Know what you mean, but in rugby it isn't a foul of you clatter into someone and out them on their arse so there is no point in pretending you were fouled. In football, although I totally disagree with it, players will usually make the most of contact to gain an advantage. My comment about rugby players being 20 stone was slightly tongue in cheek, a lot of forwards are as all they are there for is power. To be fair it's probably wrong that we're trying to compare the 2 sports to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Rugby is like wrestling with a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 we lacked a bit of leadership second half , a couple of times we seemed hesitant . Irish still winning with 5 mins to go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I watched Scotland earlier and how frustrating, that game was winnable but we ***ked it up near the end by allowing the Boks to smash our pack. I thought we played well first half but all our composure seemed to go in the second half and we were ground down by a physical but a bit boring South African team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Usual comments from the usual people. Abusing what they don't understand. Thankfully not everyone in Edinburgh was dragged up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: I like how 10 rugby players can throwing punches at each other and no one mentions it? My best friend's 7-year-old son watched his first rugby match on the telly last weekend. So shocked was he at the violence, he started crying, bless him. He was very confused. "Mummy, you tell me this behaviour is wrong - but they're all doing it!" As for Scotland: given I think Vern Cotter is an absolutely phenomenal coach, there's always been a question mark in my head over Gregor Townsend. It seems doubtful to me whether Scotland will properly kick on - or instead, be quite fitful and inconsistent, brilliant one week, mistake-ridden the next. This is still far and away Scotland's best side in at least a generation - but I really wonder what'll happen at the World Cup, where they don't just face rampant Ireland, but hosts Japan too. Edited November 17, 2018 by shaun.lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The interesting thing for me today was that I saw quite a few black South African fans around town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, Barack said: Think Apartheid is over. Probably given passports now, & everything. That Nelson fella did well for himself.?? (I'm being facetious big guy. Don't shoot the messenger. ) Dick You know exactly what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tazio said: The interesting thing for me today was that I saw quite a few black South African fans around town. That's great. And shows that what South African rugby has done since 2007 is really starting to bear fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Ftfy. Not quite. They only brought in quotas for the national team after '07. Prior to that, there was only the odd black player who became Springbok regulars (eg. Habana or Williams). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Taffin said: I thought we were poor, second half especially. Lost the ball from hand, the ground and from foot today. Shows how far we have come that I'm annoyed by a narrow defeat to South Africa but I do feel we are starting to regress slightly. I think we are totally progressing. Played some great stuff, and we kept the ball well. I am no rugby expert but to dominate is quite an achievement, and we did that second half IMO. Class shows and the boks had too much for us rugby wise, they played a very solid game as they always do (what sets South Africa, Australia and the All Blacks apart is their defence) but it was an effort to be proud of before the six nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Barack said: Think Apartheid is over. Probably given passports now, & everything. That Nelson fella did well for himself.?? (I'm being facetious big guy. Don't shoot the messenger. ) Aye not bad for a murderer and terrorist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Some of those springboks guys. Jeezo. Some size them. I like Union Rugby, love watching Scotland doing well in some form of sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 9 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: My best friend's 7-year-old son watched his first rugby match on the telly last weekend. So shocked was he at the violence, he started crying, bless him. He was very confused. "Mummy, you tell me this behaviour is wrong - but they're all doing it!" As for Scotland: given I think Vern Cotter is an absolutely phenomenal coach, there's always been a question mark in my head over Gregor Townsend. It seems doubtful to me whether Scotland will properly kick on - or instead, be quite fitful and inconsistent, brilliant one week, mistake-ridden the next. This is still far and away Scotland's best side in at least a generation - but I really wonder what'll happen at the World Cup, where they don't just face rampant Ireland, but hosts Japan too. Sean you dinnae half slaver some pish ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 15 hours ago, superjack said: Sitting watching Scotland just now and I've finally realised something, although ok to watch, compared to football rugby is quite tame and boring. 1 team gets the egg, passes about a bit and then kicks it up the park, then the other team does the same. Really miss football on weekends like this. Should never be played at the same time as Hearts home games, 5pm like yesterday is the answer. Played rugby at school , was good mixing with the posher kids from heriots, stewart melville. Playing on icy pitches was not a joy though. Used to go to murrayfield as a teenager, over 100,000 at a welsh game once, never been for a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Massive Scotland fan. I get more pride watching the National rugby team for 5 seconds than I have in the past 15 or so years watching our football national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 13 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: My best friend's 7-year-old son watched his first rugby match on the telly last weekend. So shocked was he at the violence, he started crying, bless him. He was very confused. "Mummy, you tell me this behaviour is wrong - but they're all doing it!" As for Scotland: given I think Vern Cotter is an absolutely phenomenal coach, there's always been a question mark in my head over Gregor Townsend. It seems doubtful to me whether Scotland will properly kick on - or instead, be quite fitful and inconsistent, brilliant one week, mistake-ridden the next. This is still far and away Scotland's best side in at least a generation - but I really wonder what'll happen at the World Cup, where they don't just face rampant Ireland, but hosts Japan too. Ireland are imo the favourites but in the grand scheme of things we have the best group out the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 13 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: My best friend's 7-year-old son watched his first rugby match on the telly last weekend. So shocked was he at the violence, he started crying, bless him. He was very confused. "Mummy, you tell me this behaviour is wrong - but they're all doing it!" As for Scotland: given I think Vern Cotter is an absolutely phenomenal coach, there's always been a question mark in my head over Gregor Townsend. It seems doubtful to me whether Scotland will properly kick on - or instead, be quite fitful and inconsistent, brilliant one week, mistake-ridden the next. This is still far and away Scotland's best side in at least a generation - but I really wonder what'll happen at the World Cup, where they don't just face rampant Ireland, but hosts Japan too. ? Its hard to tell whether you're serious or joking or know as much about rugby as you do about football. Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I preferred the amateur rugby days and the old Murrayfield terracing, never much liked that new seated stadium with the daft running track. It all went wrong in the 90s for me, starting off with that grand slam in 90 game. Money took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bad Religion said: ? Its hard to tell whether you're serious or joking or know as much about rugby as you do about football. Japan Yes, Japan. That's exactly the kind of post that'll come back and bite you on the backside. Japan beat South Africa at the last World Cup, which Scotland have never done. Japan led England at half time at Twickenham yesterday; when did Scotland last lead England at Twickenham? And next year, Japan are the host nation. What happens to many host nations at major tournaments? What were your thoughts ahead of Russia-Spain this summer, for example? I wouldn't exactly be doing cartwheels if England had drawn them next year. As it is, they'll be targeting the game against Scotland. That's the match that could turn them into national heroes - and if your players have the same attitude as you do above, bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: Ireland are imo the favourites but in the grand scheme of things we have the best group out the lot. Group favourites? Absolutely. Tournament favourites? Nah. If it was being played in Europe, OK - but it's not, and they've a long long history of messing it up when the chips are down. Assuming they win the group, Ireland will face either South Africa or New Zealand in the last eight. That's a massive challenge against either of them (South Africa in and out of World Cups are two different teams), which they could well fail. Scotland's prospects? Last eight at best. Looking at the draw, my predicted last four are currently: New Zealand Wales Australia South Africa With an All Blacks-Springboks final, won by the latter. A major question for me ahead of the tournament is: will New Zealand's current slight wobble turn into a slump? Edited November 18, 2018 by shaun.lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 20 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: My best friend's 7-year-old son watched his first rugby match on the telly last weekend. So shocked was he at the violence, he started crying, bless him. He was very confused. "Mummy, you tell me this behaviour is wrong - but they're all doing it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Saying take news to a post like his is wrong, maybe be more subtle with a Walter mitty reference in future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 When a try is scored, how is the position of the conversion kick decided? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: When a try is scored, how is the position of the conversion kick decided? in line with where the ball is touched down they can then go back as far as they like as long as it's still in line Edited November 18, 2018 by The White Cockade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, The White Cockade said: in line with where the ball is touched down they can then go back as far as the like as long as it's still in line Thanks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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