reaths17 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Over the last few weeks, there has been a general air of positivity over the new and potential signings - even though some (like me) have expressed reservations over their quality - and the tendency has been to look for the good in players, rather than focus on things like their career paths which are not always impressive. So i think you're reading it wrong. we will see, bauben and walker were always good for getting it, lets see who gets picked out for the treatment this season, the levein haters are wasting their time, he's way to big and clever to take any notice of any abuse thrown at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanHearts Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I quite rate Crawford. No world beater but he might offer something a bit different than some of the midfielders we have brought in so far. Bozanic & Edwards for instance are possibly more orthodox central midfielders. Crawford can play further up and is good at linking attacks, seeing through balls and taking pops at goal. ( could replace Naismith on plastic pitches ! ) He's a bit like Jason Holt but with a more abrasive edge. He's worth having a look at in training to check out his attitude and see if he fits. The fact he's done everything he can to prove us wrong for releasing him is a plus point in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, WageThief said: He's a very nice man when you get to know him. He doesn't care much for grammar but the 'of' thing infuriates him. I kind have understand his point. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-united/674282/dundee-united-Scott-Fraser-why-I-said-no-to-Hearts "It is just the sheer ridiculousness of it. It is one thing using the wrong 'their' or 'to' but it is a whole new low using 'of' instead of 'have'. I can't go there" said Fraser I'm just glad that Bobby Burns didn't read this site before signing. Clever laddie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, reaths17 said: we will see, bauben and walker were always good for getting it, lets see who gets picked out for the treatment this season, the levein haters are wasting their time, he's way to big and clever to take any notice of any abuse thrown at him If Levein is too big and clever to notice any abuse, why are posters saying negative posts will damage the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the light Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, Elmore said: If Levein is too big and clever to notice any abuse, why are posters saying negative posts will damage the club? Because if an opinion/lie/story is said and repeated enough it becomes true. Even worse when it’s spread and repeated all over social media then picked up on and put in the trash media. The knock on effect can be damaging to the feeling around the club. Look at Hibs for the opposite effect, their fans all buy in to myths about flair football, being world beaters and having the best team in Scotland out with Celtic. As much as it’s painful to say it, their fans have been well up for creating an atmosphere more than ours have in recent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macros Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Heard this morning that Crawford is hoping for a move to Blackpool, very unlikely that he'd come to Hearts. Also strong interest in Souttar from Derby County and Lafferty will be staying next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Why would he come on trial with us if he wants to go to Blackpool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874KRM Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Macros said: Heard this morning that Crawford is hoping for a move to Blackpool, very unlikely that he'd come to Hearts. Also strong interest in Souttar from Derby County and Lafferty will be staying next season. Blackpool wanted him but the deal never happened because his knees are ****ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAntiHibee Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, reaths17 said: getting a DD doesn't give you the right to rip the pish outta any of the players your supposed to be supporting, you contribute towards the finances you don't exclusively own the club, which seems to be the the opinion of the god given(paid for) right tae say what they want. Right, pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo19 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Alan_R said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ali-crawford-comes-back-haunt-6352058 The article around the quotes is set up to belittle hearts. Reading the quotes now them in themselves isn't that bad. It wouldn't lead me to think he "hates us" anyway. Plus I'm shocked John Murray is still in a job anyway. Regardless of Crawford's ability I think he's been shown to make a lot of dubious recommendations over the past few years. A couple things to consider though - would Crawford have developed in the same manner by staying at Hearts or moving to Hamilton where he made the first team at a young age, that exposure certainly benefited his development whereas he may not have got that at Hearts. Also would he have even broken into the first team with Hearts given Walker, Holt, Robinson etc at the time were above him? (I may be wrong with the timings but I'm sure he was in or around this group of players). Don't get me wrong he's a decent player but he's not exactly gone on to bigger and better things that we're all losing sleep over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 37 minutes ago, Macros said: Heard this morning that Crawford is hoping for a move to Blackpool, very unlikely that he'd come to Hearts. Also strong interest in Souttar from Derby County and Lafferty will be staying next season. Another ITker, who to believe on this site.. who can you trust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, jambo19 said: A couple things to consider though - would Crawford have developed in the same manner by staying at Hearts or moving to Hamilton where he made the first team at a young age, that exposure certainly benefited his development whereas he may not have got that at Hearts. Also would he have even broken into the first team with Hearts given Walker, Holt, Robinson etc at the time were above him? (I may be wrong with the timings but I'm sure he was in or around this group of players). Don't get me wrong he's a decent player but he's not exactly gone on to bigger and better things that we're all losing sleep over. All fair points I think , jambo19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 47 minutes ago, Macros said: Heard this morning that Crawford is hoping for a move to Blackpool, very unlikely that he'd come to Hearts. Also strong interest in Souttar from Derby County and Lafferty will be staying next season. The Blackpool link was reported LAST week (Google it can't be bothered finding it again myself) Since then he's coming to hearts on trial. So to say it's "unlikely" is nonsense really. I expect whoever you've been speaking to has just picked up on last week's news. Likewise with souttar. That's old hat, though not to share derby won't renew interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Ray has bus pass hooray said: I know iv'e never heard of that but the person i spoke to was adament that was the case. I can tell you that will be nonsense unless some kind of contract has been signed. He's not our employee so we have no responsibility to or for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotea Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 9 hours ago, WageThief said: He's a very nice man when you get to know him. He doesn't care much for grammar but the 'of' thing infuriates him. I kind have understand his point. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-united/674282/dundee-united-Scott-Fraser-why-I-said-no-to-Hearts "It is just the sheer ridiculousness of it. It is one thing using the wrong 'their' or 'to' but it is a whole new low using 'of' instead of 'have'. I can't go there" said Fraser Link broken and link text don't work either. Story been deleted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, jambotea said: Link broken and link text don't work either. Story been deleted? I think it’s someone taking the piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Barack said: And his Mrs doesn't want to leave Motherwell. Apparently. Don't forget that. Although...The Vegas Of The North is tempting... She sounds like a keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotea Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, bazman said: I think it’s someone taking the piss Skim reading got me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, James1874f said: She sounds like a keeper Nah l think she's a right back mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 He seemed to do well in a poorer team ( bit like Templeton) and if he offers us something different then he will be a good addition. If his attitude is considered an issue then a 'trial' seems like a good idea to see how he fits in with squad. Can't see CL letting him take part in pre-season just to keep him fit especially if he so open about not signing for us and considering across the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 10 hours ago, rudi must stay said: Another ITker, who to believe on this site.. who can you trust Nobody, mate. Nobody is ITK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 hours ago, 1874robbo said: Point to me where I’ve said in any of my posts he’s a “class act” my whole point on these posts are posters like yourself getting his knickers all wet because a young player rejected by a club wanted to show them they’d made a mistake. calm down precious ffs this is a hoot coming from a poster like you who is more than happy to have a go at a player who has lost form. If he signs for hearts he will have my support which i give every player, I don't rate him the only thing I really like about him is he can take a decent free kick but if he proves me wrong no one will be happier than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Deviskan said: Just checking, that you're actually 63 years old...? Unbelievable, an adult getting their knickers in a twist because a young footballer said 'slightly' negative things (yet understandable) when he left our club...you know, when we released him and I'd imagine he was completely gutted. Jesus, you're right we should hound him out of his trial...how dare he! calm down son only an opinion , Jesus , I have been hounded on here having a go at people for having an opinion so thought I would put mine, if you don't like it tough you will just have to get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 hours ago, WageThief said: But I thought Kitchen was only good for pointing? From my point of view, the opposite has happened. He has been argued by many to be the "type of player" we should be looking to sign. If Lennon had taken him on trial the view would've been we'd missed a trick, no doubt. As we have taken him on trial, we should now focus on how he is a "gobshite", how angry he was about being released, and a spat (spout?) he had with the legend that is Rudi.......Kitchen. Listen , if he comes in and does well then fine I was expressing how I feel about a player that perhaps may sign for us. on the other side of the lennon comment you know as well as I do if he had gone on trial with hibs some on here would saying he was shite anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Ribble said: When I was in the same company he repeated his comments from 2-3 years ago when he scored against us(sure Paterson was sent off in the same game) basically saying he’d been desperate to score against us, get it up John Murray etc only in person his language was slightly more colourful than what he said to the papers Sounds like exactly the sort of fighter we could do with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: calm down son only an opinion , Jesus , I have been hounded on here having a go at people for having an opinion so thought I would put mine, if you don't like it tough you will just have to get over it Personally I like seeing you give an honest opinion of a player for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macros Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 19 hours ago, rudi must stay said: Another ITker, who to believe on this site.. who can you trust Not claiming to be ITK, the person I spoke to is an old friend who is a parent of one of our players. We were chatting about the upcoming season, when I mentioned Crawford they said as far as they knew going south is his preferred choice and the Blackpool option is still available, but I'm not claiming this is written in stone. 19 hours ago, Alan_R said: The Blackpool link was reported LAST week (Google it can't be bothered finding it again myself) Since then he's coming to hearts on trial. So to say it's "unlikely" is nonsense really. I expect whoever you've been speaking to has just picked up on last week's news. Likewise with souttar. That's old hat, though not to share derby won't renew interest As I said above whilst we were talking about the upcoming season they were quite sure Lafferty will still be a Hearts player next season but weren't so sure about Souttar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: calm down son only an opinion , Jesus , I have been hounded on here having a go at people for having an opinion so thought I would put mine, if you don't like it tough you will just have to get over it It's not me that needs to calm down 'son' (laughable calling someone that in itself)... Tell you what, why don't you toddle off...put your hair in pigtails, maybe grab a skipping rope or a piece of chalk to play hopscotch...and then you can properly act like the 10 year old girl that you're opinion appears to come from. Someone call then WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE! poor old Nicky doesn't like it when nasty Ali Crawford says slightly uncomplimentary things about Hearts. What makes it more amusing, is that he probably said the comments as a slightly immature young man...who would no doubt have felt rejected and therefore lashed out (ironic huh Nicky!). Edited June 22, 2018 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: Listen , if he comes in and does well then fine I was expressing how I feel about a player that perhaps may sign for us. on the other side of the lennon comment you know as well as I do if he had gone on trial with hibs some on here would saying he was shite anyway Fair enough. I totally get why people are moaning about signing Mulraney but moaning about potentially getting Crawford seems like clutching at straws to me. Some people would probably moan about anything. Yes it works both ways - pretending that McGinn is rubbish doesn't really work for me either but I understand that sort of bias. And a lot of it is tongue-in-cheek too. On here, Lennon (quite rightly imo) gets credit for the good job he has done at Hibs whereas people fall over themselves to discredit what Neilson done for us. Jack Ross is another missed trick apparently because he won a piss-poor championship. I dont understand that and I don't think it is tongue-in-cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, maroonnicky63 said: this is a hoot coming from a poster like you who is more than happy to have a go at a player who has lost form. If he signs for hearts he will have my support which i give every player, I don't rate him the only thing I really like about him is he can take a decent free kick but if he proves me wrong no one will be happier than me I’m glad you know my posting history because I know feck all about yours but glad you stalked my previous posts you really are a keeper bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Deviskan said: It's not me that needs to calm down 'son' (laughable calling someone that in itself)... Tell you what, why don't you toddle off...put your hair in pigtails, maybe grab a skipping rope or a piece of chalk to play hopscotch...and then you can properly act like the 10 year old girl that you're opinion appears to come from. Someone call then WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE! poor old Nicky doesn't like it when nasty Ali Crawford says slightly uncomplimentary things about Hearts. What makes it more amusing, is that he probably said the comments as a slightly immature young man...who would no doubt have felt rejected and therefore lashed out (ironic huh Nicky!). I don’t think Nicky will see the irony in his posts tbh. i thought schools were still in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: Sounds like exactly the sort of fighter we could do with. Depends on whether you see it as fighting talk or whinging i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 No Laff at training today. At a funeral. Crawford out there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: No Laff at training today. At a funeral. Crawford out there though. There's a video on Hearts Twitter of the guys jogging. Not sure it's from today. Edited June 22, 2018 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Ribble said: Depends on whether you see it as fighting talk or whinging i suppose What was robbos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: There's a video on Hearts Twitter of the guys jogging. Not sure it's from today. I’m working up next to the pitches just now mate. They’re getting a pummelling! No balls in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: I’m working up next to the pitches just now mate. They’re getting a pummelling! No balls in sight. Good!! I want us fit as feck next season!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Barack said: You sat up there with a wee camping seat, some Tizer, & a couple of sausage rolls or something? Tizer. That’s a throwback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: What was robbos? No idea, in the couple of times I've had the pleasure of meeting Robbo he didn't mention it At times it's not what you say but how you say it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, Barack said: Get some abuse shouted at the new boys. Get them used to it. Bit late with that request. Steve McLean started chasing me but twisted his knee. Blame me if he’s not seen til December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, Ribble said: No idea, in the couple of times I've had the pleasure of meeting Robbo he didn't mention it At times it's not what you say but how you say it! Ok pal I get you don’t like Crawford we’d be as well leaving it at that. agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Debut 4 said: Bit late with that request. Steve McLean started chasing me but twisted his knee. Blame me if he’s not seen til December. Shout at Crawford to feck off because he hates us allegedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightyJambo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Barack said: You sat up there with a wee camping seat, some Tizer, & a couple of sausage rolls or something? He's obviously been to Greggs then. Must be ITK about our next signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Barack said: If you can get Crawford to chase you next, that'll be fine. Preferably for some, into the path of an oncoming car. I don't like him, as he's a niggly little dick. But if he plays in our eam...good. Fed up with teams thinking: "Aww, here comes the cute little Hearts midfield. Let's bully them, shall we boys?" He wouldn't **** about in there. And we need that. I'm not overly-fussed either way, but he has attributes that may help us over a season, if he signed. Bang on Barack!! show me a 15 yr old laddie that is released from a pro team that wouldn’t resent it a bit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Shout at Crawford to feck off because he hates us allegedly He’s like a mini-mini Lennon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Barack said: If you can get Crawford to chase you next, that'll be fine. Preferably for some, into the path of an oncoming car. I don't like him, as he's a niggly little dick. But if he plays in our team...good. Fed up with teams thinking: "Aww, here comes the cute little Hearts midfield. Let's bully them, shall we boys?" He wouldn't **** about in there. And we need that. I'm not overly-fussed either way, but he has attributes that may help us over a season, if he signed. Got to agree. Thing is though, the new buzz phrase for new signings is....”he’s an improvement on” ...such and such. But how much of an improvement? How much a jump in quality? You can categorise players into average, good and great with every player doing something better than others and vice versa. Edited June 22, 2018 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: He’s like a mini-mini Lennon... Ffs don’t tell the Crawford haters that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Barack said: If you can get Crawford to chase you next, that'll be fine. Preferably for some, into the path of an oncoming car. I don't like him, as he's a niggly little dick. But if he plays in our team...good. Fed up with teams thinking: "Aww, here comes the cute little Hearts midfield. Let's bully them, shall we boys?" He wouldn't **** about in there. And we need that. I'm not overly-fussed either way, but he has attributes that may help us over a season, if he signed. My sentiments as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Got to agree. Thing is though, the new buzz phrase for new signings is....”he’s an improvement on” ...such and such. But how much of an improvement? How much a jump in quality? You can categorise players into average, good and great with every player doing something better than others and vice versa. Individually it's hard to tell but a team is more than just the sum of its parts. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 He's a player that would improve our squad. We need to clear out a couple of midfielders though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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