Nucky Thompson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Why does Union Jack and Nazi salute not go in my book:mad:Because the BRITISH defeated the nazis(or Germans) in WW2. I'm confused:wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Didn't see it to be honest but not surprised to hear that there was one. Just as bad as each other unfortunately. There was 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Why does Union Jack and Nazi salute not go in my book:mad:Because the BRITISH defeated the nazis(or Germans) in WW2. I'm confused:wacko: Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the North Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 What did you think of the tri-colours in the flumps end ? Can I start by saying I like you as a poster. But who gives a feck what those goons do? Let them do what they want - we, as you know, are better than them and better than the OF. In my honest opinion - any Hearts fan who brings a UJ to the game, or defends the rights of those who do is worse than a hun? worse because we should know better. as for the ****** doing 'red hand' salutes - honestly, what sort of life does this gimp have. get him banned ffs - what an embarrasment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Eh?I know, I'm on the 2nd bottle of vino:wacko: Nazis and Union Jacks don't go , well in World War 2 they didn't:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Just the type of wannabe Hun barsteward we have to erradicate at this football club. I was raging when I saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I know, I'm on the 2nd bottle of vino:wacko: Nazis and Union Jacks don't go , well in World War 2 they didn't:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Surely Hearts will have access to the setanta footage and will be able to take the appropriate action against the saluter. We dont need cretins at Tynie. If he has done a nazi salute thats fine. Red Hand salute isnt everybodys cup of tea and personally have no wish to see at Tynie. But is it illegal? doubt it What happened to innocent till proven guilty btw? or do we just condemm the man in nazi fashion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1874hmfc Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Easy. The club identify him. Life ban. Easy. Life ban is a bit hefty is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 If it was me do you think I be calling for the club to make an example of myself? No, it was me. You are a hibby no hearts fan would slag us go away:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 If he has done a nazi salute thats fine. Red Hand salute isnt everybodys cup of tea and personally have no wish to see at Tynie. But is it illegal? doubt it What happened to innocent till proven guilty btw? or do we just condemm the man in nazi fashion? Eh? What's a red hand salute? Does such a thing exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinydancer Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Who gives a monkeys FTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 If he has done a nazi salute thats fine. Red Hand salute isnt everybodys cup of tea and personally have no wish to see at Tynie. But is it illegal? doubt it What happened to innocent till proven guilty btw? or do we just condemm the man in nazi fashion? Given that the Nazi salute is indistinguishable from the ulster one, I'm not sure what your argument is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Eh? What's a red hand salute? Does such a thing exist? Does it? yes it does. Im not supporting it btw,just saying there is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 You are a hibby no hearts fan would slag us go away:)I love you doug, you always come in and save the day:smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_the_Jambo Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 You are a hibby no hearts fan would slag us go away:) Twit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I saw two union jacks in section G today and was totally embarrased. I hate to see tricolours when Celtic visit and Union Jacks when the Hun are in town. I find it reprehensible to see Hearts supporters waving union jacks, the red hand just makes it worse in my opinion. I didnt see any royal navy ships in section G, its a union flag unless flown on a navy ship, I still would rather not see it at tynie, but apparently its a free country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Given that the Nazi salute is indistinguishable from the ulster one, I'm not sure what your argument is. Ok.... Im guessing the guy with the Union flag was trying some sort of loyalist jesture towards the Hibs fans. Thats my point. I dont agree with it,but its not a nazi salute,was it aimed against Jose? doubt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the North Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Eh? What's a red hand salute? Does such a thing exist? No. But in the mixed up minds of some hearts fans there is a link between red hands/nazi salutes/union jacks/protestantism/northern ireland/hatred of hibs/celtic/catholicism/ireland/love of chelsea/linfield. Ask these phannies to explain what they actually believe in, or why Tynecastle is the place for them to express it, and they will dry up after 30 seconds. This boy who does 'red hand' salutes is probably a care in the community bam from some ****hole in the sticks. I hate the mini hun element of our support more than i hate supporters of any other club. We should all be above that pish - we are HMFC from Edinburgh for fecks sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 at the very least im sure hearts could find out his seat number from that tv evidence and sent him a politely worded warning to stop acting like a total *****. All the people on here defending someone acting in such a way at a hearts match are ******s as well. There is no place for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinydancer Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I didnt see any royal navy ships in section G, its a union flag unless flown on a navy ship, I still would rather not see it at tynie, but apparently its a free country I will say this again--- If the flying of a national flag offends you then you are the bigot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 No. But in the mixed up minds of some hearts fans there is a link between red hands/nazi salutes/union jacks/protestantism/northern ireland/hatred of hibs/celtic/catholicism/ireland/love of chelsea/linfield. Ask these phannies to explain what they actually believe in, or why Tynecastle is the place for them to express it, and they will dry up after 30 seconds. This boy who does 'red hand' salutes is probably a care in the community bam from some ****hole in the sticks. I hate the mini hun element of our support more than i hate supporters of any other club. We should all be above that pish - we are HMFC from Edinburgh for fecks sake. watch the game instead of our own fans, yes they may be misguided but they're jambos all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I will say this again---If the flying of a national flag offends you then you are the bigot!!! eh? wtf are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 at the very least im sure hearts could find out his seat number from that tv evidence and sent him a politely worded warning to stop acting like a total *****. All the people on here defending someone acting in such a way at a hearts match are ******s as well. There is no place for it. That's right, hearts should send a warning to all fans who don't sit on their hands and politely clap when we score a try...sorry goal:wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Ok.... Im guessing the guy with the Union flag was trying some sort of loyalist jesture towards the Hibs fans. Thats my point. I dont agree with it,but its not a nazi salute,was it aimed against Jose? doubt it? I totally agree. It wasn't aimed at Jose at all. It was aimed at the cameras. The tit was looking right into the lens!!! That's my whole point, he disgraced HMFC today, in front of the nation. Not only the club, he disgraced the fans and the country. He's an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Can I start by saying I like you as a poster. But who gives a feck what those goons do? Let them do what they want - we, as you know, are better than them and better than the OF. In my honest opinion - any Hearts fan who brings a UJ to the game, or defends the rights of those who do is worse than a hun? worse because we should know better. as for the ****** doing 'red hand' salutes - honestly, what sort of life does this gimp have. get him banned ffs - what an embarrasment. I understand what you're saying mate but I'm just playing Devil's Advocate to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobreath Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 But who gives a feck what those goons do? Let them do what they want - we, as you know, are better than them and better than the OF. Excellent point, lets forget about the Hibs supporters and let the dafties amongst their support continue to drag their teams name through the gutter. We should be concentrating on getting our own house in order. The **** doing the red hand salutes is a complete embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 That's right, hearts should send a warning to all fans who don't sit on their hands and politely clap when we score a try...sorry goal:wacko: Do you actually have mental problems? Where in my post did I say anything of the sort? Supporting the team in a productive way is to be applauded, waving a flag about with the deliberate intention of associating hearts with bigotry (you can give me all the ****e about "its our national flag" if you want, but thats what he was using it to represent) and giving red hand salutes (whatever the feck that has to do with anything in modern society, nevermind at a football game) which put the club in a bad light is not on. We are not rangers as much as some people in our support may want us to be, cut this ****e out now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart MacD Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 No. But in the mixed up minds of some hearts fans there is a link between red hands/nazi salutes/union jacks/protestantism/northern ireland/hatred of hibs/celtic/catholicism/ireland/love of chelsea/linfield. Ask these phannies to explain what they actually believe in, or why Tynecastle is the place for them to express it, and they will dry up after 30 seconds. This boy who does 'red hand' salutes is probably a care in the community bam from some ****hole in the sticks. I hate the mini hun element of our support more than i hate supporters of any other club. We should all be above that pish - we are HMFC from Edinburgh for fecks sake. That sums up the situation perfectly. Now if Hearts could just identify the ferkwit and have a word. I didn't see the Setanta coverage, so can't judge on a "life"ban. Certainly some action is needed, judgng by the eyewitness reports here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGaz Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 It was not directed towards the hibe end but at Goncalves or the cameras !! That makes it even worse Oh and Hibee has 2 e's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart MacD Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Why does Union Jack and Nazi salute not go in my book:mad:Because the BRITISH defeated the nazis(or Germans) in WW2. I'm confused:wacko: Obviously. I thought it was the Soviet Union which did the hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinydancer Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 eh? wtf are you on about? wtf am i on about? If you would rather that your national flag was not flown/displayed at Tynie just to appease the gfa then you are as much a bigot as they are!!!!! FTH The Hearts are having a party---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 i never said i had a problem did i? read into it what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 That makes it even worse Oh and Hibee has 2 e's It's posts like that that give you away as a HOBO. *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGaz Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 wtf am i on about?If you would rather that your national flag was not flown/displayed at Tynie just to appease the gfa then you are as much a bigot as they are!!!!! FTH The Hearts are having a party---- I am sorry but you are a prize tit our national flag is the St Andrews Cross not the engurland union jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 wtf am i on about?If you would rather that your national flag was not flown/displayed at Tynie just to appease the gfa then you are as much a bigot as they are!!!!! FTH The Hearts are having a party---- I think we both know the UJ is not flown simply because it is our national flag. It represents so much more to these cretins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I think we both know the UJ is not flown simply because it is our national flag. It represents so much more to these cretins. Spot on. Why don't Hearts lead the way and ban all national flags from the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Do you actually have mental problems? Where in my post did I say anything of the sort? Supporting the team in a productive way is to be applauded, waving a flag about with the deliberate intention of associating hearts with bigotry (you can give me all the ****e about "its our national flag" if you want, but thats what he was using it to represent) and giving red hand salutes (whatever the feck that has to do with anything in modern society, nevermind at a football game) which put the club in a bad light is not on. We are not rangers as much as some people in our support may want us to be, cut this ****e out now! Calm down mate:)Your getting a wee bit heated there. I don't give a toss about the UJ one way or the other, it's the people who have that's got the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinydancer Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I am sorry but you are a prize tit our national flag is the St Andrews Cross not the engurland union jack Aye whatever. The difference is you could fly/display whichever flag you think is YOUR national flag and it wouldn't make one bit of difference to me!! Simple really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Was this thread not about a nazi saluter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 some knob shames us on tv and then there are plenty on here who come on here to defend him its enough to make you weep if you have maroon blood running through your veins and you love the JT's then you don't disgrace the club with all that sectarian gash end of......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGaz Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 It's posts like that that give you away as a HOBO. *****.Get a grip just because i totally disagree with arseholes flying the union jack i am a hobo. I have been too more Hearts games than you have had hot dinners son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 No, there's no such thing as a Red Hand Salute historically. Its just something invented by some mis-guided individuals who are thick enough to also believe it won't be seen as a Nazi salute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 some knob shames us on tv and then there are plenty on here who come on here to defend him its enough to make you weep if you have maroon blood running through your veins and you love the JT's then you don't disgrace the club with all that sectarian gash end of......... true, but didnt this country fight wars to defend the right of self expression, right or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Calm down mate:)Your getting a wee bit heated there. I don't give a toss about the UJ one way or the other, it's the people who have that's got the problem. I am becoming heated, you are right. I just get quite ****ed off when people defend these idiots. What has a UJ got to do with football? Nothing. What has the red hand got to do with football? again, Nothing. I wouldn't expect the actual morons to understand this, but since everyone on here can presumably read and write they should be of a intelligence level that recognises this behaviour is not on at any football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 the police are legally obliged to take a report if a complaint is made if they dont complain to the senior officer today some idiot reported murray for giving a hand signal to the fans when being abused if you dont like it and it infringes a law/rule approach a police officer/steward in a calm manner and report it dont come home and post on kb Why is he an idiot? I find it hard to beleive you never watched a game after you were at it. The semi final perhaps? The final? Do you own the DVD's? Mabye there was a incident he wanted to see again (penalty claim) Plenty reasons to re-watch a game. You're inital argument clearly backfired on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 we fought to stop bigotry and hatred not to support it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holymoly Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Get a grip just because i totally disagree with arseholes flying the union jack i am a hobo. I have been too more Hearts games than you have had hot dinners son. Sorry mate, stupid post, I apologise!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 we fought to stop bigotry and hatred not to support it..... so its bigotry when they dont agree with you then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Spot on. Why don't Hearts lead the way and ban all national flags from the ground? Im sure Pieman did that back in the day, or am I making that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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