dannymack Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A question was put to me regarding the said kit as to why Hearts didn't wear it when Hibs hit us for 7 in 1973 (get over it lads) it was also mentioned that the same kit was officially named as the "Centenery" kit despite it being introduced for 1972/73. After some quick research it was noted that in season 1972/73, Hearts wore the Ajax kit on most occasions only opting for the traditional maroon top when playing the likes of Dumbarton and Airdrie for obvious reasons but when Hearts played Hibs at Fester Rd we wore the Ajax kit and Hibs wore an all green top that day so why the change for New Years Day ? Hearts in actual fact wore three home designed kits that season, the Ajax style, the round neck (early season) and the triangle with collar style, i can only assume the clash of kits for the earlier Dumbarton League Cup game Hearts had to opt for the previous seasons kit (round neck) ????? Anyway i also noted that Hearts used the Texaco Cup final kit on a few occasions and also noted the kit worn for the Dundee Scottish Cup tie in 1975 was a bit different. Anyway if anyone has any info with regards to the queery into the New Years Day decision let me know as i for one have not got a dinky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jbee647 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A question was put to me regarding the said kit as to why Hearts didn't wear it when Hibs hit us for 7 in 1973 (get over it lads) it was also mentioned that the same kit was officially named as the "Centenery" kit despite it being introduced for 1972/73. After some quick research it was noted that in season 1972/73, Hearts wore the Ajax kit on most occasions only opting for the traditional maroon top when playing the likes of Dumbarton and Airdrie for obvious reasons but when Hearts played Hibs at Fester Rd we wore the Ajax kit and Hibs wore an all green top that day so why the change for New Years Day ? Hearts in actual fact wore three home designed kits that season, the Ajax style, the round neck (early season) and the triangle with collar style, i can only assume the clash of kits for the earlier Dumbarton League Cup game Hearts had to opt for the previous seasons kit (round neck) ????? Anyway i also noted that Hearts used the Texaco Cup final kit on a few occasions and also noted the kit worn for the Dundee Scottish Cup tie in 1975 was a bit different. Anyway if anyone has any info with regards to the queery into the New Years Day decision let me know as i for one have not got a dinky. the game was on BBC, and back in 1973 most people still had black and white tv sets, the white sleeves on the Ajax kit would have been similar to Hibs white sleeved style on a black and white tv picture making it hard to distinguish between the two teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 The "Ajax" kit was also described as Hearts' "Floodlight Strip". Easier to see under the gloomy lights of the early 70's maybe. There's a programme pic of Tommy Murray wearing the strip with this description underneath. It's most famous outing was under the lights at Ibrox for the "Tommy Murray sitting on the ball" game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 the game was on BBC, and back in 1973 most people still had black and white tv sets, the white sleeves on the Ajax kit would have been similar to Hibs white sleeved style on a black and white tv picture making it hard to distinguish between the two teams That's an interesting point. Great photos from the OP. Retro-heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 At that time, the home team were the ones to change if there was a clash of colours. As has been mentioned, this would be why Hibs changed into an all green top, with white cuffs and neck, when we visited Easter Road. It was decided by whoever, that both kits having white sleeves would cause a clash, maybe, again as has been mentioned, because many people still has black and white televisions. Particularly as floodlights at the time were not nearly up to the same standard as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 "Floodlight Strip"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Bobby Seith had sanctioned the "floodlight" strip and they wore it for the first time whilst on a pre season tour of Holland being based at Papendal Sports Centre. The Texaco Cup kit Hearts used without the maroon shorts and opting for white shorts looks pretty naff, typical though as we've had a few horrible mixtures in our time. Have to say though the Hearts v Dundee Cup tie would have been a bit of an eye opener, Hearts wearing a red and white stripped top, white shorts and maroon socks with Dundee in their navy blue, white shorts and red socks !!!!!!! The new strip for 11/12 is similar to the Alan Anderson top worn above, obviously no crest, manufacturer emblem and sponsor to show but i'm sure someone with some clout could fix that Never ever liked the idea of Hearts wearing white socks with the home kit though as i noticed they done so in the 1970's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Prefer the short sleeved version of the floodlight kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 The notion that is was the home team who had to change colours further clarifies our original puzzle, so thanks for that insight. Again, thanks again to the OP for uploading his superb pictures. ...but I have to say I do like a home kit with white socks, ala most of 85/86, most of 06/07 and parts of 09/10. Dark maroon top, white shorts and white socks looks fantastic. Happy with maroon socks, but dislike the all-maroon kit look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 No doubt hibs will claim to be the first to have had a floodlight strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmonica Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ahh the Ajax kit, my first ever Hearts strip. Good thread though,some interesting info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Is that the red and white away strip you mentioned they played in against dundee? or is it maroon and white? Some great pics you've posted I'd forgotten Eamon bannon had hair once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Is that the red and white away strip you mentioned they played in against dundee? or is it maroon and white? Some great pics you've posted I'd forgotten Eamon bannon had hair once No mate this away kit may well have been a 3rd kit or used by the reserves in season 1976/77. Not got any evidence of Hearts using it against Aberdeen that season for example. If anyone remembers that kit and if it was used in a first team game. Here's a picture of the red kit against Dundee... PS A massive crowd of over 27 k inside Tynecastle that day and over 22k inside Dens for the replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Taken from the Hearts v Arbroath programme 22nd March 1975.... CHANGE OF STRIP "Many fans were wondering why Hearts were wearing new jerseys during the Scottish Cup clash with Dndee at Tynecastle. Referee Bobby Davidson had thought the normal maroon jersey would clash with the dark blue of Dundee. Earlier when that happened, manager John Hagart had produced white substitute jerseys, but the players didn't like them and on this occasion the boss decided to go for a completely new strip. One player who would have stuck to maroon was Drew Busby who told me: 'They're not bad but i'd rather have the old jerseys - there's nothing to beat them' All very well but it doesn't say where we got them and when the decision was to acually go red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 It's easy to forget how big the enclosure was, and how it complemented the rest of the stand. The current Lower N and T are only a fraction of the size it once was, due to the club moving the pitch eastwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 There's something quite magical about 70s football photos. What was the name of that 70s photography book that Four Four Two used to advertise - the once with George best on the front? Goal or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 The dundee replay at dens park i can still remember the packed hearts end all sitting down (kinda ironic} and singing looking through tommy gemmils nose . Hit song at the time looking through gary gilmores eyes by the adverts check you tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a safe pair of sells Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 No doubt hibs will claim to be the first to have had a floodlight strip. Just to rub their faces in it, we originally wore a maroon version of their kit for floodlit games!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 No mate this away kit may well have been a 3rd kit or used by the reserves in season 1976/77. Not got any evidence of Hearts using it against Aberdeen that season for example. If anyone remembers that kit and if it was used in a first team game. Here's a picture of the red kit against Dundee... PS A massive crowd of over 27 k inside Tynecastle that day and over 22k inside Dens for the replay. A great picture, thanks for that. I never knew we had a red and white shirt. We seem to have a thing about 3rd kits and dundee I remember us wearing a yellow one up there in the mid 1990's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hearts used this kit for the floodlight friendlies and once the novelty wore off re used for training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Freddie Glidden, the open corner and the famous floodlight strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurdie Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I believe the red kit worn in the Dundee cup tie was borrowed from a local club, be it Junior , semi-pro or Juvenile i'm not sure. As for the stripped strip for season 76-77 this was definately worn on a few occasions at home. Give me an hour our two whilst i try to find my programme collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 A great picture, thanks for that. I never knew we had a red and white shirt. We seem to have a thing about 3rd kits and dundee I remember us wearing a yellow one up there in the mid 1990's This effort mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 I believe the red kit worn in the Dundee cup tie was borrowed from a local club, be it Junior , semi-pro or Juvenile i'm not sure. As for the stripped strip for season 76-77 this was definately worn on a few occasions at home. Give me an hour our two whilst i try to find my programme collection I had a quick trawl through mine also mate but couldn't find any action photo's, good luck. Same as the floodlight kit, instead of binning it use it for training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Freddie Glidden, the open corner and the famous floodlight strip. But the question is, whose floodlights was it for ? and was it really for floodlights ? maybe we were trying to emulate the great Hibs team of the 1950's, you know the one, the one that taught the world how to play football The Freddie Glidden picture was taken in 1956, please note, no floodlights at Tynecastle, i'm sure some hobo will be quick to inform us they were first to install floodlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ham Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 remember being at a cup game against stenhousemuir late 70's where there was a clash and we had to change into the candy stripe - great strip - if umbro are in a retro mood, what about the candy stripe for 2012/12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownkg Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Plenty material on this thread for Scotland to be working on hint hint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 But the question is, whose floodlights was it for ? and was it really for floodlights ? maybe we were trying to emulate the great Hibs team of the 1950's, you know the one, the one that taught the world how to play football The Freddie Glidden picture was taken in 1956, please note, no floodlights at Tynecastle, i'm sure some hobo will be quick to inform us they were first to install floodlights I might be wrong, but I thought Stenhousemuir were the first to have floodlights, or was that a scoreboard? I'm amazed to see how many people are packed into the Main Stand back in the 70's, the thing would probably fall sown nowadays with that many in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ycj Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I prefer the yellow strip much more to the stripey effort we have this year, and the past blue and white stripe etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 I prefer the yellow strip much more to the stripey effort we have this year, and the past blue and white stripe etc.. My all time favourite away kit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 My all time favourite away kit.... This. Followed by the silver number we wore early 90's I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonjambo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 But the question is, whose floodlights was it for ? and was it really for floodlights ? maybe we were trying to emulate the great Hibs team of the 1950's, you know the one, the one that taught the world how to play football The Freddie Glidden picture was taken in 1956, please note, no floodlights at Tynecastle, i'm sure some hobo will be quick to inform us they were first to install floodlights Dannymack - I'm sure you know the answer to these questions. Hearts did indeed play a series of floodlit games as "home" games at Easter Road because they had floodlights and we didnt. So, for instance, we played Newcastle in November 1955 at Easter Road for that very reason under floodlights http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/195511071.html The opening of the Tynecastle lights was marked by a game against Hibs in October 1957 http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/195710071.html But as I say, am sure you must know all this, no ? GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Dannymack - I'm sure you know the answer to these questions. Hearts did indeed play a series of floodlit games as "home" games at Easter Road because they had floodlights and we didnt. So, for instance, we played Newcastle in November 1955 at Easter Road for that very reason under floodlights http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/195511071.html The opening of the Tynecastle lights was marked by a game against Hibs in October 1957 http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/195710071.html But as I say, am sure you must know all this, no ? GC Just testing the Kickbackers, wouldn't be any fun in it otherwise but not in a urine extraction way anyway i'm still angling on the fact that Hibs fans insist on informing us they had floodlights first and Hearts "needed" Hibs in order to play such games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage1874 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 A great picture, thanks for that. I never knew we had a red and white shirt. We seem to have a thing about 3rd kits and dundee I remember us wearing a yellow one up there in the mid 1990's This effort mate ? Thats the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonjambo Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Just testing the Kickbackers, wouldn't be any fun in it otherwise but not in a urine extraction way anyway i'm still angling on the fact that Hibs fans insist on informing us they had floodlights first and Hearts "needed" Hibs in order to play such games. Did I pass ? GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurdie Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I had a quick trawl through mine also mate but couldn't find any action photo's, good luck. Same as the floodlight kit, instead of binning it use it for training. Nope. unfortunately I cant Find any evidence. I could have sworn that we played in this strip. Ach well. Memory is a funny thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Did I pass ? GC Top of the class mate but i'll refrain from assuming you attended those games in question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Nope. unfortunately I cant Find any evidence. I could have sworn that we played in this strip. Ach well. Memory is a funny thing. Maybe the case Hurdie, surely someone can help us in our quest ? Nice top though, slightly similar to the away kit we had for the Millenium era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a safe pair of sells Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 A great picture, thanks for that. I never knew we had a red and white shirt. We seem to have a thing about 3rd kits and dundee I remember us wearing a yellow one up there in the mid 1990's This effort mate ? WHEN MOJO EATS A BANANA! That's the only strip he ever wanted to wear by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryheart Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The red and white strip was worn only the once against Dundee and I recall the story about it being borrowed due to a problem with the normal white top. In the good old days when the home team changed strips when there was a clash, Hearts always changed when playing against teams wearing dark coloured tops - Falkirk, Dundee, Aberdeen, Rangers, St. Johnstone and Arbroath for example, TV or no TV. The only time when there was a change against Hibs was when the Ajax strip was introduced. As for the broad stripes, this was frequently used in 1975-76, after which the change top reverted to white and as the photo shows, it was recycled as a training top!. I have clear memories of it being used against Aberdeen (3-3 game) and Stirling (cup)for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 The red and white strip was worn only the once against Dundee and I recall the story about it being borrowed due to a problem with the normal white top. In the good old days when the home team changed strips when there was a clash, Hearts always changed when playing against teams wearing dark coloured tops - Falkirk, Dundee, Aberdeen, Rangers, St. Johnstone and Arbroath for example, TV or no TV. The only time when there was a change against Hibs was when the Ajax strip was introduced. As for the broad stripes, this was frequently used in 1975-76, after which the change top reverted to white and as the photo shows, it was recycled as a training top!. I have clear memories of it being used against Aberdeen (3-3 game) and Stirling (cup)for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ycj Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Nope. unfortunately I cant Find any evidence. I could have sworn that we played in this strip. Ach well. Memory is a funny thing. I'm positive we played in that strip against Aberdeen. 1st game of the season. 1.0 up, lost 1.4, at Tynie. 1979 maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm positive we played in that strip against Aberdeen. 1st game of the season. 1.0 up, lost 1.4, at Tynie. 1979 maybe? Start of the 1978/79 campaign mate, Hearts were wearing the "Umbro Diamonds Down The Sleeves" kit albeit the away one as you say. Hearts were 1-0 up after 4 minutes through Eamonn Bannon, the rest they say is history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex MacDonald Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Start of the 1978/79 campaign mate, Hearts were wearing the "Umbro Diamonds Down The Sleeves" kit albeit the away one as you say. Hearts were 1-0 up after 4 minutes through Eamonn Bannon, the rest they say is history Correct, and Bannon hit the post shortly after scoring. Wouldn't have changed anything, the sales of Bannon & Parkie, & getting John Craig & Dennis McQuade in return from Thistle doomed us to relegation. And what kind of numpty programme editor puts a goal being scored AGAINST Hearts on the cover?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 On the front of the Ayr prog the Stirling defender was their captain Stewart Carr, who lived round the corner from me. I'm going to change my name to "Interesting" now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1959 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Whilst I can't ever recall seeing Hearts in the broad Maroon & White stripes one. I did have one myself. Was in a shop up the southside before the one of the Airdrie semi's in (mid 80's??) and they had racks of dodgy retro hearts tops with club badge. Bought the broad stripe one and wore it to the semi, we got pumped and it never felt like a lucky top so binned shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm positive we played in that strip against Aberdeen. 1st game of the season. 1.0 up, lost 1.4, at Tynie. 1979 maybe? Certain we played Aberdeen in a red candy stripe shirt maybe about 76, about 99% sure of this but I'm at a bad age now so maybe its just my memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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