Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 What exactly does he need to do to get a game? Hes been on the bench for a few months now and hasnt had a look in on any playing time Surely it reaches the stage were that demotivates him I actually think he is a class act and will go to the top of the footballing world (im talking the likes of man utd, liverpool etc) and feel we need to start giving him a chance I reckon once he gets in he will be there for the long shift
Susie-Jambo-66 Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I agree with you he plays really will in Reserves and also for the U19's I think he would be good for the 1st team. I wonder how he will feel tomorrow if Matty Park makes the bench and then gets a game Hope to see Ryan playing 1st Team footy soon
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 I agree with you he plays really will in Reserves and also for the U19's I think he would be good for the 1st team. I wonder how he will feel tomorrow if Matty Park makes the bench and then gets a game Hope to see Ryan playing 1st Team footy soon It wont happen but if it did he should and rightly so walk Park was overtaken by mcgowan about 18 months ago Matty park hasnt really improved since we signed him, it looks like he was one of those players who matured very young then just stops whilst all their team mates overtake him
Hans von Luck Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Perhaps he may get a run out after we bang in the 4th goal................................. Praying
Heres Rixxy Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Defence is not a position you normally make unforced changes in during a game, so it may take an injury to get him off the bench. He is still young, plenty time left yet.
Tazio Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 It's a sad fact that due to the fact you must have an under 21 in the squad for a game he is there as a statistic.
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 It's a sad fact that due to the fact you must have an under 21 in the squad for a game he is there as a statistic. Wallace, Eggert, Elliot and Driver more than make this stance so he is there through choice
Tazio Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Wallace, Eggert, Elliot and Driver more than make this stance so he is there through choice Good point well made. D'oh!
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 Good point well made. D'oh! I think the telling stat will be if he continues to sit on his ass once the reserves and u19s restart If he does then it becomes a real issue as theres no way he will be happy sitting on his ass when he could be playing At least at the moment he wouldnt be playing anyway
wavydavy Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 What exactly does he need to do to get a game? Hes been on the bench for a few months now and hasnt had a look in on any playing time Surely it reaches the stage were that demotivates him I actually think he is a class act and will go to the top of the footballing world (im talking the likes of man utd, liverpool etc) and feel we need to start giving him a chance I reckon once he gets in he will be there for the long shift He's under 21 which is the only reason he is there because the current rules state that you must have a certain number of under 21 players on the subs bench not sure if it is one or two.
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 19, 2008 Author Posted January 19, 2008 He's under 21 which is the only reason he is there because the current rules state that you must have a certain number of under 21 players on the subs bench not sure if it is one or two. No it isnt The rules state you must have 3 (I think) u21 players in the squad We always have eggert, wallace, driver, elliot to choose from to meet this so he isnt there through anything other than choice
wavydavy Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 No it isnt The rules state you must have 3 (I think) u21 players in the squad We always have eggert, wallace, driver, elliot to choose from to meet this so he isnt there through anything other than choice Well if you are right why has he never played?
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 19, 2008 Author Posted January 19, 2008 Well if you are right why has he never played? The whole point of the thread:rolleyes:
wavydavy Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 The whole point of the thread:rolleyes: Exactly he is there because of his age and no other reason otherwise surely he would have been called up from the bench. Jonsson and Elliott both play on a regular basis as does but until recently Wallace has been out of the squad and if you noticed last week when all three of those players were in the squad McGowan was left out of the squad which surely confirms my point.
Ryan Gosling Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 Exactly he is there because of his age and no other reason otherwise surely he would have been called up from the bench. Jonsson and Elliott both play on a regular basis as does but until recently Wallace has been out of the squad and if you noticed last week when all three of those players were in the squad McGowan was left out of the squad which surely confirms my point. Driver?
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 19, 2008 Author Posted January 19, 2008 Exactly he is there because of his age and no other reason otherwise surely he would have been called up from the bench. Jonsson and Elliott both play on a regular basis as does but until recently Wallace has been out of the squad and if you noticed last week when all three of those players were in the squad McGowan was left out of the squad which surely confirms my point. Um no Elliot, Jonnson, Driver, Wallace Last week was because the scottish cup only allows 5 subs McGowan has not been their through necessity so the question is why exactly we dont use him when we choose to include him
Ryan Gosling Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 You need to remember Berra never started getting a regular game until last season. He needs to be broken in gently.
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 19, 2008 Author Posted January 19, 2008 You need to remember Berra never started getting a regular game until last season. He needs to be broken in gently. Granted but he should be at least getting a few fleeting 10-15 minutes appearence Having him on the bench every week cant be doing his motivation much good As for berra, I actually think McGowan is already a lot better than berra ever will be good The boys a class act
Only a Game Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 It wont happen but if it did he should and rightly so walk Your kidding. On the verge of his career in first team SPL football, possibly leading to much much more by all ccounts and you think he should walk if another young player, who doesnt even play in his position, gets in ahead of him ? I certainly hope he's got a bit more sense, patience and determination than that or he'll never make it anywhere, far less at Hearts.
Heres Rixxy Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 You can't afford to give 'fleeting 10-15 minute' appearances to central defenders! Midfield and up front yes, but I don't think, for example, taking Berra or Tall off for McGowan with 10 minutes to go in a close SPL game is a good idea. Do you?
Coco Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 Is he an aggressive player? I think I've only seen his cameo against Barcelona and he looked pretty decent in a very makeshift defence against top players (taking it easy). We need more aggressive defenders who are willing to go in and not be scared of getting hurt (Karipidis).
CornhillHearts Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 Not being part of a defence which concedes 8 goals in a bounce game would be a start.
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 I always thought his favoured postion was CM although he could play CH.
farenheit Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Agreed ! good players select themselves eventually. The experience will harden his resolve. This lad has a good head on his shoulders and won't be deterred.. he'll just try harder until they can't ignore him.
Nookie Bear Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Granted but he should be at least getting a few fleeting 10-15 minutes appearence Having him on the bench every week cant be doing his motivation much good As for berra, I actually think McGowan is already a lot better than berra ever will be good The boys a class act So you would have brought on McGowan for Berra for the last 10 minutes on Saturday??
jambo-rocker Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 frail had the choice between karipidis or mcgowan, he seems to have made the right choice as karpidis has done well so far, i expect to see mcgowan in a few games this season but he ll probably get broke into the team gently
CornhillHearts Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Jesus, Its Prancer heehaws once again, this will take a bit getting used to. .
Samster Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 No it isnt The rules state you must have 3 (I think) u21 players in the squad We always have eggert, wallace, driver, elliot to choose from to meet this so he isnt there through anything other than choice I'm sure the rule is the 3 u21 players have to be on the bench. If you've already got 3 in the starting 11 it's immaterial, you still need another 3 for the bench.
Ryan Gosling Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 I'm sure the rule is the 3 u21 players have to be on the bench. If you've already got 3 in the starting 11 it's immaterial, you still need another 3 for the bench. That's nonsense. It's 3 in the squad.
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