Shaggy2 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I know Mark Kerr made a shop front of it but if I was CL I think I'd just say. "You'll have to ask Kenny Clark how we never won that game." and walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I know Mark Kerr made a shop front of it but if I was CL I think I'd just say. "You'll have to ask Kenny Clark how we never won that game." and walk away. Hope he does. GFA are corrupt and Clarks as bad as McCurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil R Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Missed the incident, what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I would go full scale and rip right in to they feckers. They think Italy is fecking corrupt? When are UEFA going to investigate our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I dont think he will make too much fuss he will have to be diplomatic cause of the occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Mark Kerr made a stupid error, that lost them the game unfortunately. I didn't see it all, what did Clarke do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 When United were winning 1-0 Cuellar literally rugby tackled a Utd player to the ground about 5 yards away from the ball in the box. A clearer penalty you will never see. Even the commentators had to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 That penalty that was never given was an unbelievably biased decision. No referee could have missed that the guy was lifted up and thrown down on his back when clean through. It was a penalty and a red card - clear cut...but as always the SFA bottled the decision and Rangers went on to win it...Perhaps United fans will understand what we?ve been moaning about all this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 That penalty that was never given was an unbelievably biased decision. No referee could have missed that the guy was lifted up and thrown down on his back when clean through. It was a penalty and a red card - clear cut...but as always the SFA bottled the decision and Rangers went on to win it...Perhaps United fans will understand what we?ve been moaning about all this time! Hulk hogan would have been proud of that slam down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 16, 2008 Author Share Posted March 16, 2008 For those that missed it. Dundee United's left back (Kalvenes) catches Cuellar in possession on the edge of Rangers box. Ball breaks in favour of United player and two strides and he would have been in to shoot at goal. Cuellar grabs Kalvenes with two hands and takes a handful of jersey and pushes Kalvenes to the ground. Stonewall penalty and a strong case for a red for Cuellar. This trophy has been "handed" to Rangers by the officials. First the Barlem Globetrotter then Cuellar's two hands today. Lucky these things even themselves out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What do you think Craig Levein should say? Why did my team stop after deservedly going a goal up both times? (hope he is looking into a mirror as he asks the question) *was a stonewaller penalty claim for Utd, but have no sympathy for those who stood back and said nothing when Vlad tried to take them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What do you think Craig Levein should say? Why did my team stop after deservedly going a goal up both times? (hope he is looking into a mirror as he asks the question) Your pathetic efforts to discredit CL are sickening............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 *was a stonewaller penalty claim for Utd, but have no sympathy for those who stood back and said nothing when Vlad tried to take them on. Agreed. Feck them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Your pathetic efforts to discredit CL are sickening............. Not as sick as his players and fans are. A poor poor Rangers team were there for the taking today as Utd showed for the first 35mins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Not as sick as his players and fans are. A poor poor Rangers team were there for the taking today as Utd showed for the first 35mins! So it was ALL Leveins fault, aye very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 ...*was a stonewaller penalty claim for Utd, but have no sympathy for those who stood back and said nothing when Vlad tried to take them on. IMO, it was more the way VR went about it that made others reluctant to publicly agree with him. If only he had went about things differently, maybe he would have had support from other teams. We will never know though. Bloody monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 IMO, it was more the way VR went about it that made others reluctant to publicly agree with him. If only he had went about things differently, maybe he would have had support from other teams. We will never know though. Bloody monkeys. So they are just sitting back waiting until VR goes about it the 'correct way' then? Even less sympathy for them then. Can they not talk for themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambojim52 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 De Vreis pulled down on the halfway line when clear through..Result? Foul to Rankers. DDutd player pulled down in own half, rangers get the foul, take it quick and score( disallowed). Time the rest of the league stand up and say what they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoseLikeMahe Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So they are just sitting back waiting until VR goes about it the 'correct way' then? Even less sympathy for them then. Can they not talk for themselves? What a strange, warped world you live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So they are just sitting back waiting until VR goes about it the 'correct way' then? Even less sympathy for them then. Can they not talk for themselves? I agree, i think the other teams should start making an issue about the OF bias in Scottish football. I also think that if VR hadn't went about like a ****, then maybe things would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 "well lads you done your best and gave it a great shot,Kerr your a ****ing tool,one last thing im off to Hearts see ya oh and De Vries you can come too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So they are just sitting back waiting until VR goes about it the 'correct way' then? Even less sympathy for them then. Can they not talk for themselves? With a 'feck them they never helped us' attitude nowt will ever get done about this. That is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What a strange, warped world you live in. A very very strange little world.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I think he should show Dundee United a bit of respect and stop touting himself for jobs in England. At that again in the papers today. The only jobs he would be going for in England would be in Division 2 or whatever Division 4 is called these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What a strange, warped world you live in. So inside your wee world, you think we should do the talking for other clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon the jambo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 SFA W**K W**K W**K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So inside your wee world, you think we should do the talking for other clubs? The sooner clubs unite against the **** from Glasgow, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So they are just sitting back waiting until VR goes about it the 'correct way' then? Even less sympathy for them then. Can they not talk for themselves? I think it is rubbish that utd sat back after they got the goals ! Utd were still pushing even after the got in front ! When they had the chance to run to the corners they were still trying to find people in the box, not very well but they tried ! MAybe in the 2nd period of extra time they lost out of stamia ! But credit to CL for his team performance today ! I totally agree with you on your point about the other teams being ***** when it comes to sticking up to the GFA ! I have said it many times, they are corrupt to the core and this will never change ! After i saw uefa fix the draw of the CL on friday i don't reckon they will ever do anything to help us ! Fifa, uefa, sfa, fa etc all the same ***** just differnet names ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldreekie1874 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 For those who missed it, it was something like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So inside your wee world, you think we should do the talking for other clubs? I know the question wasn't directed at me but IMO, we shouldn't do the talking for other clubs. Regardless, even if we were to, thanks to the ramblings of VR, no-one would take us seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 16, 2008 Author Share Posted March 16, 2008 "well lads you done your best and gave it a great shot,Kerr your a ****ing tool,one last thing im off to Hearts see ya oh and De Vries you can come too" According to a well known Edinburgh councillor that may well be close to happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 "well lads you done your best and gave it a great shot,Kerr your a ****ing tool,one last thing im off to Hearts see ya oh and De Vries you can come too" a bit too far mate ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 With a 'feck them they never helped us' attitude nowt will ever get done about this. That is a fact. I think this is an opportunity to get United fans onside with us in our quest against bent refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted March 16, 2008 Author Share Posted March 16, 2008 For those who missed it, it was something like this... Lol, that's spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzo Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I know the question wasn't directed at me but IMO, we shouldn't do the talking for other clubs. Regardless, even if we were to, thanks to the ramblings of VR, no-one would take us seriously. At the time of the Andy Davis incident there were no "ramblings". It was George Foulkes who did the talking. Hearts asked about the "integrity" of the decision.. a clever choice of words if the SFA/SPL had actually looked at a dictionary. But they didn't and hammered Hearts. And the rest of the clubs sat back,prepared to win if Hearts changed things...and prepared to see Hearts get hammered if nothing changed. And Craig Levein should say what every non Old Firm fan is thinking tonight. Use the word "cheat". And us fans should have a whip round to pay his fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 *was a stonewaller penalty claim for Utd, but have no sympathy for those who stood back and said nothing when Vlad tried to take them on. Correct on both counts Gambo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 It was one of the most disgraceful non-decisions "never" made and that is really pushing the boat out!!! And there is absolutely no chance of the rest of Scottish Football "getting together" about the corruption in the game - the Hearts fans on this forum are too busy sniping at each other, specifically, as in this case, EVEN WHEN WE AGREE ABOUT SOMETHING - extend that out into the other clubs - and there's not a hope in hell that anything will be done!!! The Bigot Brothers, like the leeches they are, have sucked the life out of the game!!! PS And how anyone can manage to turn this into an anti-Vlad situation should beggar belief - but on here it doesn't - and there, in a nutshell, is why the Old Firm will laugh all the way to their plundered trophies!!! PPS I wonder, if all the stonewall refereeing injustices against teams playing the Ugly Sisters were "taken out" - how many fewer trophies would these cretins have won??? ................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 At the time of the Andy Davis incident there were no "ramblings". It was George Foulkes who did the talking. Hearts asked about the "integrity" of the decision.. a clever choice of words if the SFA/SPL had actually looked at a dictionary. But they didn't and hammered Hearts. And the rest of the clubs sat back,prepared to win if Hearts changed things...and prepared to see Hearts get hammered if nothing changed. And Craig Levein should say what every non Old Firm fan is thinking tonight. Use the word "cheat". And us fans should have a whip round to pay his fine. :clap: Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What do you think Craig Levein should say? Why did my team stop after deservedly going a goal up both times? (hope he is looking into a mirror as he asks the question) *was a stonewaller penalty claim for Utd, but have no sympathy for those who stood back and said nothing when Vlad tried to take them on. I don't think Levein needs lessons in taking on the SFA from anyone, least of all from people who have continually toadied to the man who has successfully made a fool of himself and HMFC over the last three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 So what did he actually say then,the beeb were too busy patting themselves on the back to talk to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans von Luck Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What do you think Craig Levein should say? Why did my team stop after deservedly going a goal up both times? (hope he is looking into a mirror as he asks the question) *was a stonewaller penalty claim for Utd, but have no sympathy for those who stood back and said nothing when Vlad tried to take them on. Have to agree Gambo. Steven Frail is going down the same route as CL with pretty boring percentage football. Yesterday was a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Three certainties in life - death, a nurse, and that Rangers will always get the benefit of a controversial decision when things are going against them. The real pity is the lack of shame inside the SFA at these continuous acts of blatant cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I do feel sorry for them but the brought it upon themselves. They had Rangers on toast but never fully believed, and ultimately paid the price. Teams never get handed cup wins against the grusome twosome, when you have an advantage make full use of it.. sorry to say it but upon reflection I take my hat off to rangers most other teams would simpley have given up and been beaten. It just goes to show the mentality of the OF in many ways it what separates them and most other teams in Scotland.... and of course the odd refereeing decision!!! Defo penalty but they did not need it to win they should have done better by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Pinched from the TA board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Clearly Dundee Utd deserved a penalty for the incident but when was the last time anyone got a penalty against the old firm to possibly make the score 2-0 in an important game. Hedge my bets for never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Three certainties in life - death, a nurse, and that Rangers will always get the benefit of a controversial decision when things are going against them. The real pity is the lack of shame inside the SFA at these continuous acts of blatant cheating. What about taxes? They are a certainty but still come after Rangers' benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What about taxes?They are a certainty but still come after Rangers' benefits. Yeah - forgot about them - four certainties in life!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey05 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I know Mark Kerr made a shop front of it but if I was CL I think I'd just say. "You'll have to ask Kenny Clark how we never won that game." and walk away. no I think he should say. Hey Vlad! I'll take your job!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 The real sad thing about this is that the bias is questionable BEFORE the game even starts. Today we have a referee from Paisley, a couple of miles from Ibrox. Is that fair (I'll not even bother with the question mark). He has to live, go to work tomorrow, socialise and do whatever he does, next door to Ibrox and that would be difficult if he had awarded a pen and/or sent Cuellar off at a critical stage in the game - which is why refs MUST be allocated on a fairer and more open basis. Wee Baz's basketball ref (McCurry) comes from the same place and that helped them beat us 2-0 when neither team were any great shakes. Now I'm not saying they are corrupt........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 The real sad thing about this is that the bias is questionable BEFORE the game even starts.Today we have a referee from Paisley, a couple of miles from Ibrox. Is that fair (I'll not even bother with the question mark). He has to live, go to work tomorrow, socialise and do whatever he does, next door to Ibrox and that would be difficult if he had awarded a pen and/or sent Cuellar off at a critical stage in the game - which is why refs MUST be allocated on a fairer and more open basis. Wee Baz's basketball ref (McCurry) comes from the same place and that helped them beat us 2-0 when neither team were any great shakes. Now I'm not saying they are corrupt........................ I said that earlier to the Mrs when we were watching the game. There's plenty of other refs they could have used. Remember when Liverpool reached the cup final in 2006 the ref was changed from Mike Dean because he comes from The Wirral. That would never happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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