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As a career fat bassa, I recently purchased a cross trainer for the house. Going ok so far, packed the fags in also which helps as I am feeling much better because of that.

 

I did 10k on the cross trainer last night, which took me 25 minutes. I'm assuming that it isn't a real 10k in that time though. As I've got athritis in my knees I can't really go out pounding the streets as they really hurt if I do that. Any training plans that people have would help me achieve my goals of getting back to my fighting weight of 12 and a half stone, which I was when I was playing football in the 90's. I also do 6 miles on my bike on a Sunday morning.

 

Cheers if you could pm me and I will send you my email address.

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Ran 7k in around 50 minutes today; pretty shan time considering that I used to be able to do a half marathon in around twice that, but I haven't been out roadrunning since August and would imagine that I'll be able to step it back up again pretty quickly. Good to be back doing proper cardio again.

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Finally got round to joining a gym over here and it's right by my subway stop on my way home so should encourage me to go straight after work.

 

On Saturday did 20 mins core work, 40 odd minutes on the weights then 5km on the treadmill in 25 mins dead (1.5 percent gradient).

 

Was happy with the running effort as I haven't tried a 'fast' run for months, but I've lost a fair bit of strength having not lifted since September. As it was the first time back went for lighter weights and higher reps just to get the muscles back in the swing of things. I'm a long way from ten pull-ups though.

 

Did another 20 mins core + 35 mins weights yesterday and no real pain today -- apart from a wee twinge in my lower back so may lay-off any back exercises for a few days and throw in some extra stretching.

 

If I can manage three sessions a week + a bit of extra running (or finally find a fives team) over the winter I'll be happy.

 

My diet will remain relatively poor throughout this plan. thumbsup.gif

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Just booked myself on a pilates class. Anyone tried/ do it regular? Any good?

 

It's a free taster session so give me a chance to try before I buy.

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Snake Plissken

Some deep squats followed by the bench press yesterday.

 

I injured my foot on Saturday so cardio is out this week, hope to get back to it next week. In the meantime I'm concentrating on compound workouts at lunchtimes. I'm going to put a lot more into squats and deadlifts, yesterday I was doing 90kg squats (I only weigh about 68) with very strict form.

 

Not sure about today's workout, probably some shoulder work.

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I've lost 4 pounds this year so far and am under 14 stone for the first time in maybe 5 or 6 years. Been playing Badminton with friends at least once a week, went for the first run of the year this morning. And.....And... playing on my x-box Kinect is getting a sweat up a couple times a week.

 

Watching what I eat with regards to Calories and quality of the food is helping a hell of a lot. i.e no chocolate biscuits and excessive snacking.

 

Goal - 12 and a half stone (or less) by July 1st.

 

Started Jan 1st at 14st 3 pounds.

19th Jan - 13 Stone 13

 

On Target!

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I was going to just go tonight and leave the lunchtime workout today but then I caught a glimpse of one of the fat bassas in the office...

 

I'm going in now. ;)

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Loving the gym at the moment. Lost a fair bit of fat since the turn of the year, gained some muscle too. Looking forward to seeing my results at the February. :thumbsup:

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Had a rest day today, which is just as well as my glutes are still hurting from Monday! I reckon that that's part of why I did so poorly in my run yesterday. Hopefully they'll be okay in time for Muay Thai tomorrow, or I may be kicking rather poorly. :lol:

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I don't have the time am too lazy to look through the thread so it may have already been asked/mentioned. Where do folk buy their protein shakes etc from? When I come out the gym I usually buy one from the gym itself but a) I don't think it's the greatest and B) it is quite costly compared to buying a tub.

 

Also what to people recommend as the best. I go to the gym 3/4 a week and do weights but I don't want to get massive. Just add strength and power (I play football) while keeping myself toned.

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I don't have the time am too lazy to look through the thread so it may have already been asked/mentioned. Where do folk buy their protein shakes etc from? When I come out the gym I usually buy one from the gym itself but a) I don't think it's the greatest and B) it is quite costly compared to buying a tub.

 

Also what to people recommend as the best. I go to the gym 3/4 a week and do weights but I don't want to get massive. Just add strength and power (I play football) while keeping myself toned.

 

You from Edinburgh?

 

Pop to Physique and speak to the owner Rab.

 

(who is actually a chemist)

 

He is very, very knowledgeable, doesn't BS you and will match online prices.

 

Protein isn't just protein. Various types etc. He will help explain to you, really helpful, decent bloke.

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I don't have the time am too lazy to look through the thread so it may have already been asked/mentioned. Where do folk buy their protein shakes etc from? When I come out the gym I usually buy one from the gym itself but a) I don't think it's the greatest and B) it is quite costly compared to buying a tub.

 

Also what to people recommend as the best. I go to the gym 3/4 a week and do weights but I don't want to get massive. Just add strength and power (I play football) while keeping myself toned.

 

I get all my supplements (Protein, Creatine, Multi's and Pre-Workout shakes) from this website: http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk

 

I would reccommend for you to get pure Whey Protein, it literally is just protein and 2 shakes a day will give you around 46grams of Protein.

 

Also, if you're looking to add strength and power I would reccommend Creatine, done the job for me. Anyway, have a look around that website as it does great deals and tells you exactly what the product does.

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You from Edinburgh?

 

Pop to Physique and speak to the owner Rab.

 

(who is actually a chemist)

 

He is very, very knowledgeable, doesn't BS you and will match online prices.

 

Protein isn't just protein. Various types etc. He will help explain to you, really helpful, decent bloke.

Nice one. Where about in Edinburgh is it?

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Training partner at Muay Thai today was a nightmare. One of those guys who can't box for shit but thinks he's the bees knees, and therefore tries to blame his poor technique on the way you're holding the pads, even though he's already asked you to hold them in about six different ways and still had shit technique every time.

 

He also kept trying to give me advice when he himself didn't even know how to block a hook. Cheers mate, but I think I'll pass.

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Training partner at Muay Thai today was a nightmare. One of those guys who can't box for shit but thinks he's the bees knees, and therefore tries to blame his poor technique on the way you're holding the pads, even though he's already asked you to hold them in about six different ways and still had shit technique every time.

 

He also kept trying to give me advice when he himself didn't even know how to block a hook. Cheers mate, but I think I'll pass.

 

In the months that I did Muay Thai, I trained at the wicker camp in Sheffield. The place was packed full of people who knew their stuff and schooled you along the way (**** me, did I need some schooling!) Even the fella who ran the place used to chat on to the novices. When I moved away, my next experience was much like you described above - getting preached to by people who were as incompetent as me. I gave it up sadly (although I must confess that I was also struggling to hack the training. Two hours on a Monday and Wednesday night - bloody hell, it was torture).

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Sexton Hardcastle

Two weeks on the Special K and i've shifted 8 pounds

 

Not too bad going. Most of that must be cutting out crisps and juice etc. Just need to keep those out and topping up on exercise.

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In the months that I did Muay Thai, I trained at the wicker camp in Sheffield. The place was packed full of people who knew their stuff and schooled you along the way (**** me, did I need some schooling!) Even the fella who ran the place used to chat on to the novices. When I moved away, my next experience was much like you described above - getting preached to by people who were as incompetent as me. I gave it up sadly (although I must confess that I was also struggling to hack the training. Two hours on a Monday and Wednesday night - bloody hell, it was torture).

 

I actually love the training (short, high intensity workouts are, for me, definitely the best way of improving all round fitness) and have in general been really impressed with the club I'm training at, just had one bad training partner! In general, the standard does vary: there are some guys who're really good and some beginners, but generally everyone has a pretty realistic idea of where they are.

 

High intensity interval training today, purely cardio. In a strange, masochistic way I'm actually looking forward to it.

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High intensity interval training today, purely cardio. In a strange, masochistic way I'm actually looking forward to it.

 

It's the feeling of conquering levels previously thought unreachable that I like about training hard. Walking back down to the office again after a shattering run and feeling invincible, that's why I keep going.

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Finally found a fives team - with a trial tonight.

 

Having not kicked a ball since August I imagine I'll be breathing out my hoop after five minutes, but I'm looking forward to it.

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As a career fat bassa, I recently purchased a cross trainer for the house. Going ok so far, packed the fags in also which helps as I am feeling much better because of that.

 

I did 10k on the cross trainer last night, which took me 25 minutes. I'm assuming that it isn't a real 10k in that time though. As I've got athritis in my knees I can't really go out pounding the streets as they really hurt if I do that. Any training plans that people have would help me achieve my goals of getting back to my fighting weight of 12 and a half stone, which I was when I was playing football in the 90's. I also do 6 miles on my bike on a Sunday morning.

 

Cheers if you could pm me and I will send you my email address.

 

You won't be doing too badly if you ust keep that up.

 

I've said it a few times already on this thread but swimming is the way forward. No impact on your knees and a great all round exercise for weight loss.

 

If you prefer the gym option, try working the major muscles (chest, legs, shoulders, back, core etc) doing 2-3 sets of 12-15 reps.

 

The best training plan depends on whether or not you have access to a gym.

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Cheers mate, I actually don't find it that difficult to stick to as I enjoy everything that I eat! I do give myself a day off every week to 10 days, though, although there's a legitimate reason for that in that it actually speeds up your metabolism by keeping your body guessing. It's generally based around alcohol and takeaways...

 

I'm thinking that I'll move back up to 2,500 calories a day on Sunday. Can't wait!

 

Would've been right up for this if posted a bit earlier! I'm only in Edinburgh four days a week now, though, and I'm doing MT here and using the gym over in Stirling.

 

Still happy to fire you some free passes if you drop me a PM, for when you're here and can't make MT.

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Just booked myself on a pilates class. Anyone tried/ do it regular? Any good?

 

It's a free taster session so give me a chance to try before I buy.

 

Pilates is very good for you and helps build your core strength and improves your flexibility (which is something most men ignore too much).

 

As it doesn't give you the burn or get your heart going it does feel like you haven't done much (especially if you don't do it properly first time you try it) but the stretches are hard work and you will feel it in your stomach the next day when you've been doing the plank....

 

I did it a few times and always had to go for a swim or to the gym afterwards to make myself feel like I'd had a work out but it is a great thing to combine with other exercise.

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Still happy to fire you some free passes if you drop me a PM, for when you're here and can't make MT.

 

Just saw this! That'd be very much appreciated, and I might just take you up on it at some point. Thanks. :)

 

On topic, I'm definitely feeling the benefits of my recent changes to my training programme. I'd been tiring myself out previously by training in two different styles which basically weren't very compatible, whereas now my gym work's complimenting Muay Thai perfectly. Thinking of going to the gym less and Muay Thai more in the next couple of months, though.

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I don't have the time am too lazy to look through the thread so it may have already been asked/mentioned. Where do folk buy their protein shakes etc from? When I come out the gym I usually buy one from the gym itself but a) I don't think it's the greatest and B) it is quite costly compared to buying a tub.

 

Also what to people recommend as the best. I go to the gym 3/4 a week and do weights but I don't want to get massive. Just add strength and power (I play football) while keeping myself toned.

 

Tesco at Hermiston gates got some cracking selections and deals the now, pop in and have a look, its near the entrance about half way up on the left (as if that will help, it the biggest shop in the world :teehee: )

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Yeah, was really surprised when I saw the amount of shakes they sell in there! Doesn't seem so long ago that you could only get them in specialist retailers, now they're on sale in Tesco. Weird.

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Interesting. Do they compare with online prices?

 

I tried superpump250 the other day. Mental stuff and I guess similar to nox. Dunno if I'd like to use it everyday.

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Snake Plissken

After a pretty lazy weekend (I played an hour of 7s in goals on Saturday) I've decided to kick things up a notch for the start of this week.

 

I'm going to do the 300 work out this lunchtime:

 

25 pull ups

50 deadlifts w/60kg

50 press ups

50 box jumps

50 floor wipers

50 clean and press w/18kg kettle bell

25 pull ups

 

:woot:

 

 

I can already tell I'll probably have to take the pull-ups down to 15-20 and probably cut a few reps in some but I'll be trying to adhere to it a closely as I can. I'm going in in 20 minutes and I'll report back afterwards.

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Snake Plissken

Anytime I thought I was tired prior to today I was wrong.

 

Christ on a bendy-bus, that was hard.

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Just got a waterproof mp3 player for swimming with and it's the mutts nuts!

 

On my first swim with it I was listening to the best of Ricky Gervais' Podcasts and have downloaded lots of other funny ones. I just about drowned laughing and the hour swimming flew by!

 

Can't wait to get into the pool again - it's a great motivational tool!

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Ok. In attempt to be the flab, I have almost got the eating sorted to lose weight. But now need to tone the stomache muscles.

 

My plan is wiifit and swimming, because I hate the gym (and have a few joint issues). was on the wiifit thursday night, going on it in a few minutes, with a swim planned for this afternoon (20 lengths and build from there)

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Over the course of five days in Paris, I've managed to put on 5lbs despite running two 10ks and doing three fairly intense bodyweight circuits whilst there. :lol: Not a major worry as I'm in absolutely no danger of getting fat, although next week's my first back at uni so will probably be another heavy one. Sticking rigidly to the regime at all other times!

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Bannatyne's update - found out today that you have to pay ?1 to borrow a towel. This on top of ?99 a month fee. It's a day charge apparently. Note to bannatynes - you're not a waterpark. I never go to the gym for the day. Membership ends next month, can't wait

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3 x 12 pull ups followed by a barbell complex today:

 

Bent over row x 8

Standing row x 8

Military press x 8

Good morning x 8

Split squat x 8

Split squat (other side) x 8

Squat to thrust x 8

Romanian deadlift x 8

 

90 second rests between the pull up sets and 60 second rests between the complexes (none between the individual lifts: you aren't allowed to let go of the bar at all during the complex).

 

Good to be back into the swing of things!

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wot are the best exercises for losing a fat face? that's my biggest problem. i'm being serious

 

lol

 

You cant loose fat in specific areas, it all comes off as a whole. Just get on a low carb / high protein diet with cardio and after a while your BF% should drop and you may notice a difference in the facial area.

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wot are the best exercises for losing a fat face? that's my biggest problem. i'm being serious

 

Shake your head about as hard as you can mate. 3 sets, 20 reps.7

 

My training has been a bit of a mare recently. Have to go and see a knee specialist as I can't get rid of the swelling when I run. Seething.

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My friend was 200lbs of fat... done what I mentioned.... he's now 180lb's lean...

 

lol

 

It still wasn't healthy...you need carbs in your diet...more than 2g of protein per kg bodyweight is useless anyway...

 

lol

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It still wasn't healthy...you need carbs in your diet...more than 2g of protein per kg bodyweight is useless anyway...

 

lol

 

Obviously you need carbs, I didn't say you don't need carbs.

 

And per kg? I think you mean lb.

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Obviously you need carbs, I didn't say you don't need carbs.

 

Carbs should make up at least 50% of your daily intake. 'Low carb, high protein' diets are for people who don't know how to calculate macronutrient levels.

 

And per kg? I think you mean lb.

 

Do you really?

 

You think wrong. I mean per kg. You need about 1-1.5g per lb if you want to measure it that way.

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Carbs should make up at least 50% of your daily intake. 'Low carb, high protein' diets are for people who don't know how to calculate macronutrient levels.

 

 

 

Do you really?

 

You think wrong. I mean per kg. You need about 1-1.5g per lb if you want to measure it that way.

 

I weigh 180lb's (81kg), I should be taking around 300g of protein per day.

But according to your theory I should only be taking around 160g? (81kgx2).

You're wrong mate, do some research please. A quick google will do, or even check a few fitness forums. Ta.

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Earlier you said more than 2g of protein per Kilo is useless. Yes?

 

I weigh around 80 Kilos so according to this theory you have, anymore than 160g of protein per day is useless for me?

 

Just lol, broscience really is something.

 

Please research before you come out with statements like these.

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I weigh 180lb's (81kg), I should be taking around 300g of protein per day.

But according to your theory I should only be taking around 160g? (81kgx2).

You're wrong mate, do some research please. A quick google will do, or even check a few fitness forums. Ta.

 

:laugh:

 

You're an idiot.

 

You should only be taking around 160g per day. More won't do any harm (within reason), but it certainly won't do any good either.

 

1g protein = 4 kcal

1g carbohydrate = 4 kcal

1g fat = 9 kcal

 

I'm not trying to gain, I'm trying to lose after my holiday to get back down to the lightweight division, so I'm taking on 2,000 kcal a day. Given that I weigh around 64kg at the moment, that means I need around 128g protein. 128 x 4 = 512 kcal, but there'd be no point in being that anal about it, so I bump it down to 125g. That's 500 kcal, or 25% of my daily intake. I aim to get 20% from fat, which is 400g. 400/9 = 44.4, so that's 44.4g fat a day. That leaves 55% to come from carbs, or 1,100 calories. 1100/4 = 275g. So 125g protein, 275g carbs, 44.4g fat.

 

Given that you weigh 80kg and should be aiming for around 3,000 kcal a day to gain weight, your 2g per kg of bodyweight would be 160g daily, which is 640 calories or 21.3% of your intake. I'd bump that up to 165g daily, which is 660 kcal or 22%. 20% fat = 3000 x 0.2 = 600 kcal. 600/9 = 66.7g. That leaves 58% to come from carbs. 3000 x 0.58 = 1740. 1740/4 = 435g carbs. So what you'd be taking on per day if you were less stupid would be 165g protein, 435g carbs and 66.7g fat to gain lean bulk.

 

Basically, you know **** all about nutrition and aren't interested in learning. That's why you're always on about supplements and 'high protein diets'. Do some research, please.

 

Edit: wow, two separate answers. It's almost like you want to publicise how ******* stupid you are or something.

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:laugh:

 

You're an idiot.

 

You should only be taking around 160g per day. More won't do any harm (within reason), but it certainly won't do any good either.

 

1g protein = 4 kcal

1g carbohydrate = 4 kcal

1g fat = 9 kcal

 

I'm not trying to gain, I'm trying to lose after my holiday to get back down to the lightweight division, so I'm taking on 2,000 kcal a day. Given that I weigh around 64kg at the moment, that means I need around 128g protein. 128 x 4 = 512 kcal, but there'd be no point in being that anal about it, so I bump it down to 125g. That's 500 kcal, or 25% of my daily intake. I aim to get 20% from fat, which is 400g. 400/9 = 44.4, so that's 44.4g fat a day. That leaves 55% to come from carbs, or 1,100 calories. 1100/4 = 275g. So 125g protein, 275g carbs, 44.4g fat.

 

Given that you weigh 80kg and should be aiming for around 3,000 kcal a day to gain weight, your 2g per kg of bodyweight would be 160g daily, which is 640 calories or 21.3% of your intake. I'd bump that up to 165g daily, which is 660 kcal or 22%. 20% fat = 3000 x 0.2 = 600 kcal. 600/9 = 66.7g. That leaves 58% to come from carbs. 3000 x 0.58 = 1740. 1740/4 = 435g carbs. So what you'd be taking on per day if you were less stupid would be 165g protein, 435g carbs and 66.7g fat to gain weight.

 

Basically, you know **** all about nutrition and aren't interested in learning. That's why you're always on about supplements and 'high protein diets'. Do some research, please.

 

Edit: wow, two separate answers. It's almost like you want to publicise how ******* stupid you are or something.

 

 

I have seen some quite breath-taking ownages in my time here but this one is right up there.

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Yep, I think your stats mentioned earlier speak for itself, 140lbs i think it was?

 

My goal is to gain muscle yes, something I've done very well over the past 2 years. The ideal amount of protein for gaining muscle is 1.5-2g per pound of bodyweight. If I have been taking 160g per day as you think is suitable, no way would I have seen such gains.

 

And always on about supplements? My theory has always been Food > Any supplement. What's wrong with reccommending supplements to people?

 

Go on any fitness forum and you will see the ideal amount of protein to gain muscle is 1.5-2g per pound

 

Another one of the keyboard gangsters thinking they know about nutrition etc, annoying.

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Can't believe you're actually saying for gaining muscle I would only have to take 160 grams of protein. Please visit any forum even a ******* google for a last resort.

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Yep, I think your stats mentioned earlier speak for itself, 140lbs i think it was?

 

My goal is to gain muscle yes, something I've done very well over the past 2 years. The ideal amount of protein for gaining muscle is 1.5-2g per pound of bodyweight. If I have been taking 160g per day as you think is suitable, no way would I have seen such gains.

 

And always on about supplements? My theory has always been Food > Any supplement. What's wrong with reccommending supplements to people?

 

Go on any fitness forum and you will see the ideal amount of protein to gain muscle is 1.5-2g per pound

 

Another one of the keyboard gangsters thinking they know about nutrition etc, annoying.

 

'Keyboard gangster'? :lol: Seriously, switch the computer off and stop making a fool of yourself.

 

Can't believe you're actually saying for gaining muscle I would only have to take 160 grams of protein. Please visit any forum even a ******* google for a last resort.

 

You keep telling me to Google this. Okay, here you go:

 

http://findarticles....20/ai_n6002944/

http://weighttrainin...ein_howmuch.htm

http://www.bodybuild...m/fun/maki1.htm

http://www.rice.edu/...yn/protein.html

 

Do some research, please.

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