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Newest issue of Smithsonian's Air and Space magazine;

 

 

This first i have ever seen something of this nature from them,"Smithsonian's Air and Space" magazine and the sources from which it originates are considered very main steam and contain respected professionals who contribute various up to date space and avionics information ect.I was somewhat surprised to see that almost every single article is UFOs, odd crashes and disappearances, and Area 51.There is an article in there about gravitational capture and fly by anomalies experienced by space craft. Apparently the acceleration effect is maximized by a slow low angle approach into the gravity well followed by a quick steep climb out? Some researchers even feel Einstein's equations might be proven false, absolutely scandalous!ML. :geek:

 

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Here are some links from the articles they are covering this is a first for a magazine of this reputation;

 

 

 

The Truth is Out There

A veteran reporter describes his search for the aircraft of Area 51.

By William B. Scott http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/The-Truth-is-Out-There.html

 

Lost In Space

Microgravity's mysterious side effect: Stuff disappears

By Tom Jones

http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/Lost-In-Space.html

 

 

Cold Case

A new team sets out to solve old disappearances.

By Michael Behar

http://www.airspacemag.com/how-things-work/Cold-Case.html

 

 

Department of Flying Saucers

Hello? UFO Desk? I'm calling to report a ...

By Craig Mellow

http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/Department-of-Flying-Saucers.html

 

 

Checking In...

...on the Missing Persons File

By The Editors

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/Checking-in.html

 

 

The Curse of the Cargomaster

Readied to transport the first U.S. ICBMs, the Douglas C-133 had a peculiar habit. It kept crashing.

By John Sotham

 

The Force Is With Them

What changes the speed of spacecraft flying by Earth?

By Sam Kean

http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/The-Force-Is-With-Them.html

 

 

What Made Yuri Fall?

Igor Kuznetsov reopened the Gagarin inquest to find out.

By Andrew Osborn

http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/What-Made-Yuri-Fall.html

 

 

The 727 that Vanished

A case pursued by the FBI, the CIA, the U.S. Departments of State and Homeland Security, CENTCOM, and the sister of Ben Padilla.

By Tim Wright

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/The-727-that-Vanished.html

 

The Curious Case of Edgar Mix

The celebrated aeronaut found Earth-bound life difficult to navigate.

By Rebecca Maksel

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/Curious-Case-of-Edgar-Mix.html

 

 

Cause Unknown

What brought down these five airplanes?

By Lester A. Reingold

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/Cause-Unknown.html

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Self-Healing Autonomous Material Comes to Life; :ermm:

 

 

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"You've seen it in movies: the human-like, robot assassin quickly regenerates its structure after being damaged beyond recognition. This "Terminator" scenario is becoming less far-fetched as recent advances in structural health monitoring systems have led to a variety of ways to identify damage to a structural system".

 

"Now, in the Journal of Applied Physics, researchers at Arizona State University have created a material that may be able to not only sense damage in structural materials, such as cracking in a fiber-reinforced composite, but to even heal it. The aim of developing "autonomous adaptive structures" is to mimic the ability of biological systems such as bone to sense the presence of damage, halt its progression, and regenerate itself"

 

 

The article, "Autonomous Materials with Controlled Toughening and Healing" by Michael Garcia, Yirong Lin, and Henry Angelo Sodano appears in the Journal of Applied Physics. See:

http://link.aip.org/link/japiau/v108/i9/p093512/s1

 

Journalists may request a free PDF of this article by contacting [email protected]

 

 

 

This is some discovery, they was supposed to be material an extraordinary metal that was found among the debris that came from the supposed UFO that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in July of 1947--It was so thin, you could bend it and it would spring back into its original shape, but so touch that a bullet couldn't be fired through it. Now these scientists are close to making the same or close too the same supposed Roswell metal themselves!Extraordinary times we are living in i feel.ML. B)

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ARE FLYING SAUCERS REAL? By J. Allen Hynek

 

 

 

"Dr. Josef Allen Hynek (May 1, 1910 ? April 27, 1986) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist.[1] He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947?1949), Project Grudge (1949?1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969). For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs."[2]

 

 

 

 

 

J. Allen Hynek - Saturday Eve. Post (1966)

 

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In the following 12/17/66 Saturday Evening Post article, Dr. Hynek speaks about his years examining the UFO phenomena.

 

 

Quote from J. Allen Hynek;

 

"For years the Air Force has dismissed them as hoaxes, hallucinations or misidentifications. Now the Air Force's own scientific consultant on unidentified flying objects declares that many of the sightings cannot be so easily explained.

 

"On August 25, 1966, an Air Force officer in charge of a missile crew in North Dakota suddenly found that his radio transmissions was being interrupted by static. At the time, he was sheltered in a concrete capsule 60 feet below the ground. While he was trying to clear up the problem, other Air Force personnel on the surface reported seeing a UFO--an unidentified flying object high in the sky. It had a bright red light, and it appeared to be alternately climbing and descending. Simultaneously, a radar crew on the ground picked up the UFO at 100,000 feet".

 

"So begins a truly puzzling UFO report--one that is not explainable as it now stands by such familiar causes as a balloon, aircraft, satellite or meteor. "When the UFO climbed, the static stopped," stated the report made by the base's director of operations. "The UFO began to swoop and dive. It then appeared to land ten to fifteen miles south of the area. Missile-site control sent a strike team (well-armed Air Force guards) to check".

 

 

Quotes from Dr. J. Allen Hynek's forward to the "UFO Cover-Up"

http://www.cohenufo.org/ocr.3b.html#HynekGreenwood'>http://www.cohenufo.org/ocr.3b.html#HynekGreenwood

 

 

Fascinating stuff from the former scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947?1949), Project Grudge (1949?1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969.He gradually came to the conclusions that SOME cases defied explanations in the mundane sense.He then went on to study more cases independently and the deeper he went the complexity of some cases seemed to contain real levels of a very high strangeness.

 

 

 

 

Click here if you're not familiar with:

 

http://www.cohenufo.org/condon.html

 

 

The opinion Hynek expressed in the next to last paragraph changed somewhat with the releases of certain FOIA documents by the government in 1979 & '81.

 

See: Hynek quotes throughout his career.http://www.cohenufo.org/ocr.3b.html#anchor75480

 

 

 

To see part of the reason he changed his mind:

The 1979 FOIA governmental releases: http://www.cohenufo.org/ocr.3b.html#HynekGreenwood

 

 

The 1981 FOIA governmental releases: http://www.cohenufo.org/frnt.sci.81.html

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When will you ******* learn that nobody wants to read a copy and pasted all over the place article. Get the key points. Tell us and provide a link for further reading should the person want to. It makes it much easier for all involved.

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When will you ******* learn that nobody wants to read a copy and pasted all over the place article. Get the key points. Tell us and provide a link for further reading should the person want to. It makes it much easier for all involved.

 

 

There is several quotes from different articles that are clearly highlighted with the corresponding links provided mate.You want everything spoon fed to you then that's your problem.When you start to use a abusive tone its clear you have issues, tell me where i have NOT provided a link for further reading in my last post should anyone want to follow that particular article up.I give a snippet of an article and then provide the corresponding link for further reading tell me how is that difficult not to see in my last post.Have you learned anything new from these articles? are you even interested in what information they contain mate, if you are out to gain any rule breaking responses from me to gain getting this thread closed due to infighting hand bags at two paces then i suggest you pick on a subject you are clued up on, aint gonnae work on me.

 

Now what IF any articles in my last post you genially thought interesting but need further assistance with ?let me know and i will be happy to help. B)

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MUFON Request for FOIA,(FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT),Radar Data Denied/Cases of freedom of information data REQUESTS won and lost;

 

I will in this post provide snippets from articles and then provide the links to that article for anyone interested enough to gain more information on that particular article.The below articles cover some UFO requests under the freedom of information act that have been successful and some not.Some judges have given this reason as a justification of rejecting requests through the F.O,I.A.ML; B)

 

'the continued need for secrecy far out weighed the public's right to know.'

 

 

 

 

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Photo Info: "Fuzzy and ambiguous -- true. But the FAA is thwarting a researcher's attempt to review radar records that might shed light on whatever got caught on cell-phone camera last year outside Kansas City"/CREDIT: MUFON

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Snippet case 1.

 

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"the Federal Aviation Administration HQ in Washington gave final notice that his request for radar data surrounding several 2009 UFO incidents could take a hike". :whistling:

 

"No biggie ? records are protected all the time, right? Except the denials are part of a trend curve running in the exact opposite direction of President Obama?s January 2009 executive order directing federal agencies to err on the side of transparency".

 

"According to the Department of Transportation?s recent summary of FOIA requests, last year the FAA snubbed 105 of 6,294 requests based on legal exemptions, versus 73 denials of 7,202 FOIAs in 2008".

 

link; http://www.ufocasebook.com/2010/mufondenied.html

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Snippet case 2;

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"Sometimes lawsuits had to be initiated to gain access to withheld and censored documents. The CIA tried to resist releasing their files to the public but, in a headlined court case in 1979, they were ordered to give up nearly 900 pages of records to a UFO organization, Ground Saucer Watch".

link; http://www.project1947.com/bg/ufogov.htm

 

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"On October 26, 2007, NASA agreed to search for those records after being ordered by the court. The judge, who had tried to move NASA along for more than 3 years, angrily referred to NASA's previous search efforts as a "ball of yarn" that never fully answered the request, adding, "I can sense the plaintiff's frustration because I'm frustrated."

link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

 

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snippet 4;

if my FOIA request is denied, what can I do?

 

"If your FOIA request is denied in whole or in part, the Bureau or Office that made the decision will notify you of the denial of your request and of your right to file an administrative application for review".

link; http://www.fcc.gov/foia/

 

 

One particular UFO researcher Peter Gersten was denied on a case "effectively 'forever denied him legal access' to the classified UFO documents which are still being withheld".ML.

 

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"In 1977 New York attorney Peter A. Gersten brought suit in the US District Court of the District of Columbia on behalf of Ground Saucer Watch, an Arizona based UFO organization. The lawsuit was against the Central Intelligence Agency pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act. Gersten demanded the release of classified UFO related documents. Pursuant to the lawsuit, the CIA in 1979 released over 900 pages of documents relating to the UFO phenomenon. But they refused to release 57 documents, claiming national security considerations".

 

link; http://www.ufodisclosure.com/main.html

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Here is one case that bared some fruit or was won partially;Thejudge who was handling this case had some interesting comments too;

 

snippet 6;

 

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"On October 26, 2007, NASA agreed to search for those records after being ordered by the court. The judge, who had tried to move NASA along for more than 3 years, angrily referred to NASA's previous search efforts as a "ball of yarn" that never fully answered the request, adding, "I can sense the plaintiff's frustration because I'm frustrated."

 

link;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

 

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Snippet 7;

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"The lengthy process of the NASA lawsuit highlights the problems inherent to the Freedom of Information Act for the average citizen, and shows that much of our history is not available to public researchers. When we sent our first FOIA request to NASA with a list of five specific search items, the agency replied that it had no documents responsive to our request. This simply wasn?t true, as was shown later. It was only through the pressure of our appeal and then a federal lawsuit that hundreds of documents ? responsive to our initial request and therefore rightfully ours under the law :thumbsup: ? were provided"

 

link; http://www.freedomofinfo.org/foi/NASA_lawsuit_conclusion.pdf

 

 

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This case below was successful in getting radar evaluations data released again quote snippet and link for further reading provided;ML;

 

 

Snippet 8;

 

MUFON radar evaluations show UFOs aimed at Bush?s Crawford ranch.

 

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"The Mutual UFO Network has released its findings concerning FAA radar records recorded at the time of some of the sightings of unidentified aerial objects seen during the recent Stephenville/Dublin flap.

 

Of particular interest is a Jan. 8 radar track, which shows one of the objects making a beeline for President Bush's Crawford ranch. The object's radar signature was apparently detectable for more than an hour, indicating that whatever it was was in no hurry to get where it was going".

 

link;

MUFON -Special UFO Research Report - Stephensville, Texas (pdf file); http://www.mufon.com/documents/MUFONStephenvilleRadarReport.pdf

 

Here is a news report on a Police witness from that case;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhKXW4tdXc

 

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Snippet nine also deals with the Bush case and is taken from the American chronicle news story;ML;

 

 

snippet 9;

BUSH RANCH AT CRAWFORD;

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"Ever since news of the multiple sightings by highly-credible witnesses in areas around Stephenville and nearby Dublin, there has been speculation that the military jets seen in the area at the same time as the UFOs could be related to security for the Bush Ranch at Crawford, about 40 miles to the south-east".

 

"Larry King asked about this on his show. Angelia Joiner, the former local newspaper reporter whose articles first caught the attention of the mainstream media, noted that many local people had wondered if there was some connection to the Bush ranch. But she indicated she had no specific information".

link; http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/68094

 

 

As one can see from the relative small selection of cases one and lost the FAA decision appears to represent a tacit reversal of its response to MUFON?s request for Stephenville data in 2008. Back then, the FAA supplied researchers with 2.5 million radar hits that plotted not only the UFO?s course to President Bush?s Crawford ranch, but also charted the flight paths of military jets as they shadowed the object, which approached a no-fly zone without a transponder.A transponder is legally required to be fitted on every plane, be they private or commercial air craft, this "transponder" sends out a signal to air traffic controllers at air ports so they can identify all air craft.This particular object had no identity "transponder" and was according to released radar data was apparently shadowed by military jets.Secret military craft maybe??.ML; B)

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Argentine Air Force announces committee to study UFO phenomenon;

 

 

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"The Air Force of Argentina on Dec. 23, 2010 formally announced the formation of a committee to study the UFO phenomenon".

 

"The Argentinean Air Force?s action to form a UFO investigation unit was confirmed by Sylvia Perez Simondini of the CEFORA (Argentinean Republic Committee for UFO Phenomena Studies), "an organization formed by various UFOlogy groups in Argentina. The main purpose is the declassification of all related UFO phenomena in Argentina. It was formed by serious Argentinean UFOlogists in Victoria, Entre Rios during a conference.?

 

In a public statement, Ms. Perez Simondini says,

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"The Argentinean Air Force has just announced the formation of a commission to investigate the UFO phenomenon.

link; http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/breaking-news-argentine-air-force-announces-committee-to-study-ufo-phenomenon-1'>http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/breaking-news-argentine-air-force-announces-committee-to-study-ufo-phenomenon-1

 

 

quote;

"The Director of Institutional Relations of the Argentinean Air Force confirmed on Telefe Newscast that it has recorded two UFO sightings it cannot account for by normal explanations".

 

link; http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/breaking-news-argentine-air-force-announces-committee-to-study-ufo-phenomenon-1

 

 

Looks like the Argentine authorities are treating some intrusions into their air space as a serious matter for further study.Can only be a good thing, the more country's take a serious look at this subject the better it will be in finding out the true nature and origins of the cases that cannot meet conventional explanations.ML. B)

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ML ... do you honestly read all the stuff you post on here ? ... hats off to you if that's true. In fact it may be more prudent for you to start your own website, then just post a link to it here periodically

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ML ... do you honestly read all the stuff you post on here ? ... hats off to you if that's true. In fact it may be more prudent for you to start your own website, then just post a link to it here periodically

 

 

Yes hmfc_steve i do read the information to the links i post on this thread.As you may have gathered i have a very keen interest in this subject.As for creating a web site its a good point and i have often considered it but its time consuming shifting through material or new information let alone creating a web site and raising three young kids.I am lucky in a sense that i have a wife that recognises my interest or hobby and we have an agreed time limit.

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Here is a site that has full length movies for believer and sceptic.Below are two films from that site.Not saying that all these films are believable but the below two are interesting.

 

 

The Secret - Evidence We Are Not Alone - Full movie;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzwTlf73xsk

 

 

 

UFO Secret - MJ-12 - Exposing the Military Coverup;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=solTs-GemzM

 

 

link to the website ufo tv website; http://www.ufotv.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BB

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/UFOTVstudios

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I am going to post a few times on this thread till we reach the next page as that autoplay video is beginning to annoy me

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picture of alien autopsy

 

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Chilling.

 

However, not as astonishing as this recent photo taken in Muswell Hill, London:

 

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WHEN WILL THE GOVERNMENT TELL US THE TRUTH?

 

 

 

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Chilling.

 

However, not as astonishing as this recent photo taken in Muswell Hill, London:

 

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WHEN WILL THE GOVERNMENT TELL US THE TRUTH?

 

 

Who knows

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Thought i would add this material here to give some perspective on what some scientific academics perceptions are on this subject;This was also covered by the UK news paper "The guardian".ML;

 

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"World governments should prepare a co-ordinated action plan in case Earth is contacted by aliens, according to scientists.

 

Scientists argue that a branch of the UN must be given responsibility for "supra-Earth affairs" and formulate a plan for how to deal with extraterrestrials, should they appear.

 

"The comments are part of an extraterrestrial-themed edition of the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A published today. In it, scientists examine all aspects of the search for extraterrestrial life, from astronomy and biology to the political and religious fallout that would result from alien contact".

 

link; http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/10/earth-close-encounter-aliens-extraterrestrials

 

 

 

Now for a wee snippet from these scientific academics from the Royal Society;ML;

 

 

Our ignorance is most famously quantified by the Drake equation [30?32]; http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/369/1936/499.full#ref-30

 

 

 

Now for a wee snippet from these scientific academics from the Royal Society;ML;

 

The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society;

 

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"Advanced efforts are now on the drawing board or already under way for the further exploration of the Solar System and the search for biomarkers in the atmospheres of extra-solar planets, while searches for signals of extra-terrestrial intelligence are entering a new era with the deployment of the next generation of radio telescopes".

 

"The study and understanding of life in the Universe encompasses many, if not all, of the fundamental questions in biology, physics and chemistry, but also in philosophy, psychology, religion and the way in which humans interact with their environment and each other. While we cannot be prepared for the unpredictable, the careful development of a societal agenda alongside a scientific agenda for the search for life elsewhere becomes mandatory". :thumbsup:

 

 

Cannot agree more on a serious need for a societal agenda alongside a scientific agenda for the search for extraterrestrial life.After reading this articule i was remined by what Carl Sagan once said, never a truer word spoken on this subject;ML; :geek:

 

quote from Sagan;

?Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light".? :thumbsup:

http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/369/1936/499.full#ref-54

 

Here is a link to the full Discussion Meeting Issue 'The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society' organized and edited by Martin Dominik and John C. Zarnecki; http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/current/

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This looks like you have just copy and pasted something from another board onto this board.

 

Very interesting.

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Space shuttles for sale; :plane:

 

The New Scientist reports from an article from theThe New York Times link here; http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/science/space/17nasa.html?src=sch&pagewanted=all

that NASA is selling a Space shuttle ,fully loaded, air conditioning, one careful owner.Price= $28.8 million cut from $42 million.ML; :rolleyes:

 

NASA tried also to sell their Space Shuttle Engines for up to $800,000 but a lack of bidders has force them to giving them away for FREE;Wonder what the posting and packaging costs.ML. :ermm:

 

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link; http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2010/01/space-shuttles-for-sale.html

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This looks like you have just copy and pasted something from another board onto this board.

 

Very interesting.

 

 

Yes hughesie27 i did copy and paste it mate, it was from my article of the same theme i posted on that board, so i posted it here as well.I take it by "Very interesting" you mean the contents of the article its self.ML;

 

here is the link to my article on that other board; http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131941&page=11

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Giant Spaceships Heading Towards Earth ? whistling.gif

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Recent light has been shed on the reason that the SETI (Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence) project has been cancelled by the government. It seems that something was starting to happen. According to my sources the government black project boys have taken over some of the antennas and are now processing signals for the exclusive use of the United States Navy. The government seems to be highly upset that more than one very large object is fast approaching Earth...

net ref : http://beforeitsnews.com/story/175/068/Giant_Spaceships_Heading_Towards_Earth.html

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Btw ML - it makes total sense for governments to keep very sensitive information like the existence of aliens private or for large engineering firms like Lockheed or Boeing to keep special projects or technologies away from the public,

 

We're all stupid and insufferable. You only have to walk about your local town centre to figure this out, or even just read Kickback.

Whoever needs to know about some secret missile/stealth craft/alien ship/new technology will know about it because they're intelligent and rational enough to deal with it all properly. The rest of us just aren't. These things should be "top secret" until we're ready to know.

 

I also doubt anyone who knows about what really happens is an evil person, hell bent on keeping everyone in the dark while they and they alone benefit. If a new weapon is created it's usually for defence of the country and I'd rather no one knew about it so that if we ever had to use it, it's a strategic advantage. You can come up for similar arguments about why other things have been kept quiet for a while.

 

I'm happy to trust the people in power unless I've good reason to believe otherwise.

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Exoplanet hunt turns up 54 potentially habitable world;

 

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"Astronomers have identified some 54 new planets where conditions may be suitable for life.

Five of the candidates are Earth-sized.

The announcement from the Kepler space telescope team brings the total number of exoplanet candidates they have identified to more than 1,200.

The data release also confirmed a unique sextet of planets around a single star and 170 further solar systems that include more than one planet circling far-flung stars".

 

source; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12354390

 

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There is more here from on the Characteristics of planetary candidates observed by Kepler, II: Analysis of the first four months of data;

 

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link; http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0541

 

 

 

NASAs Kepler"s space telescope is beginning to bear fruit and this recent discovery opens up more possibilities of Extraterrestrial life , be that in advanced intelligences or cell like existence; 170 further solar systems , now that is some discovery added to the unique sextet of planets around a single star and also more than one planet circling far-flung stars.Our sun is classed as a start and while there is still a long way to go in confirming official source proof,(NASA),of Extraterrestrial life that would satisfy hardened debunkers and pseudo-sceptics and ridiculer's it does make this even more probable with this new data.Time will tell as usual but little by little its coming;ML; B)

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Saw this earlier on an ITN clip.

 

From the first angle, it hovers a lot longer than it does in the second clip.

 

Good script; poor direction.

 

Not saying it's real but the ITN clip is edited to make it shorter. They're both the same time in both original clips.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHmzx3TyBGE

 

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"Stunning observations are being made in the skies over Mexico and the world. In Mexico a new group of UFO observers called "The Vigilantes" are equipped with high-tech video equipment and are now combing the skies for evidence with fantastic results".

 

 

Not a bad video if one has the odd hour to spare;

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'I believe in UFOs... and I've seen them': Former Canadian defence minister accuses American government of cover-up; :D

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER;

 

"He says he'd get fired for his views if in office today

Claims U.S. military had weapons to use against UFOs and that aliens can help us learn about climate change"

 

"He is on an advisory body to the Queen, works as an environmental campaigner and is credited with integrating Canada's armed forces".

 

"But aside from all this, the ex-Canadian defence minister says UFOs are real, aliens have visited Earth and the U.S. government is covering up information about them.

Paul Hellyer says he would probably get fired for his views if he was still Canada's Minister of National Defense today, but is adamant he has seen UFOs himself".

 

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Paul Hellyer: The ex-Canadian Minister of National Defense says he is convinced that UFOs are real and alleges the U.S. has covered up information on them;

 

 

source link; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360737/I-believe-UFOs--Ive-seen-says-ex-defence-minister-Paul-Hellyer.html#ixzz1F0qtxjg9

 

Seems that he is adamant that something real and strange is happening in the sky's around the world, this is not the first time ex-Canadian Minister of National Defense Paul Hellyer has gone public with his belief.Indeed he has in the past come forward with public statements such as the one contained in the above article;The below videos are of him publicly going on record.;ML; B)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-0Ebn3qrBE

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYjzilMNiTE

 

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Some info on him;

quote;

"Paul Theodore Hellyer, PC (born 6 August 1923) is a Canadian engineer, politician, writer and commentator who has had a long and varied career. He is the longest serving current member of the Privy Council, just ahead of Prince Philip".

 

"Upon completion of high school he studied aeronautical engineering at the Curtiss-Wright Technical Institute of Aeronautics in Glendale, California, graduating in 1941".

 

"Hellyer became Minister of National Defence in the cabinet of Lester B. Pearson. This was the most notable period in Hellyer's political career. As Minister of Defence, he oversaw the drastic and controversial integration and unification of the Royal Canadian Navy, Canadian Army, and the Royal Canadian Air Force into a single organization, the Canadian Forces. This lead to the demise of the Canadian military as it had been known".

link source; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer

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This list of the released "freedom of information act" or F.O.I.A. UFO documents from governmental departments is worth a butchers and does give a bigger insightful and better perspective on what was considered genuine unknowns that contained levels of high strangeness cases of UFO reports by the USAF ect;ML; B)

 

 

 

All UFO Documents From...

 

This section contains batches of documents that have been received from multiple agencies. The FOIA request was for all documents relating to UFOs... the following is what was received. Simply click on the agency of your choice.

 

Army - 355 Pages - 22 megs;http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/army/ArmyUFOs.pdf

Central Intelligence Agency [2,763 Pages]http://community.theblackvault.com/articles.php?action=viewarticle&articleID=113

 

Defense Intelligence Agency UFO Files Through 1979 [204 Pages]http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/DIAUFOTO79.pdf

 

Defense Intelligence Agency UFO Files from 1979-1989 [12 Pages]

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/dia/dia2ufo.pdf

 

Defense Intelligence Agency UFO Files From 1990 to date [30 Pages];

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/dia/dia3ufo.pdf

 

Department of Defense [270 Pages];

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/dod/readingroom/10/174.pdf

 

Federal Bureau of Investigation UFO Documents [1,600 Pages] - [ Part 01http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo1.pdf

 

| Part 02 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo2.pdf

Part 03 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo3.pdf

Part 04 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo4.pdf

Part 05 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo5.pdf

Part 06 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo6.pdf

Part 07 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo7.pdf

Part 08 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo8.pdf

Part 09 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo9.pdf

Part 10 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo10.pdf

Part 11 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo11.pdf

Part 12 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo12.pdf

Part 13 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo13.pdf

Part 14 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo14.pdf

Part 15 |

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo15.pdf

Part 16 ]

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/fbi/ufo16.pdf

 

John F. Kennedy Library [127 Pages];

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/jfkufos.pdf

 

NASA Headquarters [131 Pages]

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/nasa/ufodocsnasa.pdf

 

National Reconnaisance Office UFO Documents (No Records)

http://www.theblackvault.com/article8255.html

 

National Security Agency's UFO Files [159 Pages]

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/nsa/nsa1ufo.pdf

 

National Security Agency's Once Exempt From Release :ermm: [254 Pages]

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/nsa/nsa2ufo0.htm

 

Navy (No Records) :down:

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/0001.jpg

 

Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense [132 Pages]

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/oasd/oasd.pdf

 

Space Command [7 Pages];

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/spacecommand/spacecommand.pdf

 

Wright Patterson Air Force Base [910 Pages] - All documents relating to Project Sign and Grudge[ January through August, 1948 http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/wpafb_janaug.pdf

 

September through December, 1948 | 1949 ];

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/wpafbsepdec.pdf

1949 ];

http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/wpafb1949.pdf

 

LINK; http://www.theblackvault.com/m/articles/view/All-UFO-Documents-From

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Conspiracy song

 

 

Nice :thumbsup: there are a few other songs of this nature out there too;

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UFO UK, New Evidence;

 

This documentary was originally shown on Monday 14 March at 8pm on the National Geographic Channel;Its a not bad documentary and it takes this subject a wee bit more seriously like the UK governments past and present do; There is a viewing guide at the end of this post for those that are interested on what kind of attitudes our Governments have on some the objects that have not been identified or are difficult to identify that have entered British air space;ML; B)

 

DESCRIPTION;

quote;

"A dossier of files released by the Ministry of Defence last year proves just how seriously some of these close encounters are taken by the government. <_<

 

"Since August 2010, these previously classified 'UFO files' have been in the public domain - and they reveal some startling goings-on in the skies above Britain. There's Winston Churchill's wartime cover-up, the alleged UFO crash in a remote part of Wales and the East Anglian sighting that left police, coastguard and radar operators scratching their heads. Among the many other reports brought to light are the hushed-up camera recording of a UFO over Scotland and the bizarre experience of a Boeing 737 jet pilot flying above Manchester".

 

"The files also provide a fascinating insight into how attitudes towards alien visitors have changed over the years, with everything from war to The X Files playing their part in the timeline. But this is more than just a case for Mulder and Scully."

SOURCE; http://natgeotv.com/uk/ufo-uk-new-evidence/videos/et-in-the-uk

 

 

EPISODE GUIDE;

UFO UK: New Evidence: Episode 1;

 

 

ET in the UK; :D

"They've been seen in our skies for decades, but eye witness accounts have been locked away. This programme probes into the unexplained....

From Winston Churchill's wartime cover-up :thumbsup: to an alleged UFO crash in Wales, a new Ministry of Defence dossier lifts the lid on Britain's X Files".

 

Next Showing:Wednesday 16 March at 10:00PM - National Geographic Channel;

 

Repeats:Friday 18 March at 8:00PM - National Geographic Channel;

 

Saturday 19 March at 12:00AM - National Geographic Channel;

 

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ET in the UK; :D

"They've been seen in our skies for decades, but eye witness accounts have been locked away. This programme probes into the unexplained....

 

 

LINK FOR DOCUMENTARY;

http://natgeotv.com/uk/ufo-uk-new-evidence/videos/et-in-the-uk

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Right, not saying that this supposed FBI memo is legit or proves that what crashed in Roswell was ET in origins as this memo needs more probing and all sources it pertains from but interesting none the less;The steady flow of various country's declassified UFO documents is an interesting and ongoing one, now we have,(IF LEGIT),a document and possibly more from a agency such as the FBI;ML; B)

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The memo that 'proves aliens landed at Roswell'... released online by the FBI

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Last updated at 7:10 PM on 9th April 2011;

 

QUOTE;

"A memo that appears to prove that aliens in flying saucers did land in New Mexico prior to 1950 has been published by the FBI.

The bureau has made thousands of files available in a new online resource called The Vault.

Among them is a memo to the director from Guy Hottel, the special agent in charge of the Washington field office in 1950".

 

 

DOCUMENT;

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375203/The-memo-proves-aliens-landed-Roswell--released-online-FBI.html#ixzz1J3S7NMas

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Interesting video containing a talk by Dr Michio Kaku the American physicist who speaks about the world of physics and what is to come;

For those not familiar with him here is a wee bit about him the rest can be read on the link i provided;ML; B)

 

 

Dr Michio Kaku the American physicist;

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quote;

"Kaku currently holds the Henry Semat Chair and Professorship in theoretical physics and a joint appointment at the City College of New York,[2] and the Graduate Center of the City University of New York,[3] where he has lectured for more than 30 years.[4] Presently, he is engaged in defining the "Theory of Everything", which seeks to unify the four fundamental forces of the universe:the strong nuclear force,the weak nuclear force,gravity and electromagnetism".

LINK; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lP9eTSVWlM

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OMG run for the hills!

 

 

Its fake,the article below has exposed it;

 

 

Siberian ?Dead alien? fake;

QUOTE;

"A video of what was claimed to be a mutilated alien corpse, which scored hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube, has turned out to be fake".

 

"The tiny ?dead alien? is just skin from chicken filled with bread, :lol: reports the website 7d.org.ua. Police questioned the men who claimed to have found the ?body? and they allegedly confessed to creating it themselves".

link; http://rt.com/news/dead-alien-siberia-body/

 

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Pretty cool talk, ML. I think he's pretty spot on.

 

Like I always say though, take everything Michio says with an extraordinarily large pinch of salt.

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JFK demanded UFO files from CIA 10 days before assassination?????

 

 

The FBI have recently released some of their UFO documents under the freedom of information acts, this particular one below is interesting, the Author William Lester said the CIA released the documents to him under the Freedom of Information Act after he made a request while researching his new book 'A Celebration of Freedom: JFK and the New Frontier.'Not many people realize that JFK was very interested in the UFO subject and was in the process of digging deeper into this subject but was killed 10 days after demanding UFO files from CIA;Not saying that this was the primary reason for his assassination, just merely pointing out that he was very interested in this subject; B)

 

 

 

source link; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378284/Secret-memo-shows-JFK-demanded-UFO-files-10-days-assassination.html

 

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Transcript of above FBI released document below;

 

 

MEMORANDUM FOR:

The Director (blacked out classified), CIA;

 

SUBJECT: Classification of all UFO intelligence files affecting National Security.

 

"As I had discussed with you previously, I have initiated (blacked out classified) and have instructed James Webb to develop a program with the Soviet Union in joint space and lunar exploration. It would be very helpful if you would have the high threat cases reviewed with the purpose of identification of bona fide as opposed to classified CIA and USAF sources. It is important that we make a clear distinction (unintelligible word here) the knowns and unknowns in the event the Soviets try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for intelligence gathering of their defense and space programs".

 

"When this data has been sorted out, I would like you to arrange a program of data sharing with NASA where Unknowns are a factor. This will help NASA mission directors in their defensive responsibilities".

 

"I would like an interim report on the data review no later than FEB 1, 1964".

Signed : John F. Kennedy

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Here is a second memo that was Unclassified by the FBI BELOW;ML; B)

 

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A second memo written by JFK on November 12 1963, 10 days before his assassination, which has been released by the CIA

 

 

 

Here is a video of JFKS speech he gave April 27, 1961 recorded at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, will it contains no UFO related material it appears he was addressing some concerns he had of elite organisations;ML; B)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj3AECSKmhU

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Fascinating articles on the conclusions of three NASA scientists/astrobiologist who claim that life did exist on Mars and one who claims that life is much more abundant in the universe than they had imagined or perceived it to be after their scientific investigations on meteorites from Mars; The below articles and links are in three places;ML; :geek:

 

 

1;

NASA Scientist Claims Evidence of Alien Life on Meteorite;

quote;

"We are not alone in the universe -- and alien life forms may have a lot more in common with life on Earth than we had previously thought.

 

That's the stunning conclusion one NASA scientist has come to, releasing his groundbreaking revelations in a new study in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.

Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with NASA?s Marshall Space Flight Center, has traveled to remote areas in Antarctica, Siberia, and Alaska, amongst others, for over ten years now, collecting and studying meteorites. He gave FoxNews.com early access to the out-of-this-world research, published late Friday evening in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.

 

In it, Hoover describes the latest findings in his study of an extremely rare class of meteorites, called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites -- only nine such meteorites are known to exist on Earth.

 

Though it may be hard to swallow, Hoover is convinced that his findings reveal fossil evidence of bacterial life within such meteorites, the remains of living organisms from their parent bodies -- comets, moons and other astral bodies. By extension, the findings suggest we are not alone in the universe, he said".

 

link; http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/05/exclusive-nasa-scientists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteorite/

 

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QUOTER;

"On August 6, 1996[6] ALH 84001 became newsworthy when it was announced that the meteorite may contain evidence for traces of life from Mars, as published in an article in Science by David McKay of NASA."[7]

LINK; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001#Possible_biogenic_features'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001#Possible_biogenic_features'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001#Possible_biogenic_features

 

The electron microscope revealed chain structures in meteorite fragment ALH84001;

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"Under the scanning electron microscope structures were revealed that may be the remains?in the form of fossils?of bacteria-like lifeforms. The structures found on ALH 84001 are 20-100 nanometres in diameter, similar in size to the theoretical nanobacteria, but smaller than any known cellular life at the time of their discovery. If the structures are in fact fossilized lifeforms, as proposed by the so-called biogenic hypothesis of their formation, they would be the first solid evidence of the existence of extraterrestrial life, aside from the chance of their origin being terrestrial contamination".

LINK; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001#Possible_biogenic_features

 

"Other initial skepticism towards the biogenic hypothesis focused on the idea that the nanometer-sized filaments were too small to contain RNA, but evidence continues to grow that nanobacteria do exist in nature.[14] Furthermore, microbiologists have successfully cultured nanobacteria in the lab, with sizes within the range of at least some of the purported microfossils in ALH 84001."[15]

LINK; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Hills_84001#Possible_biogenic_features

 

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3;

J.E. Brandenburg Orbital Technologies Corporation Madison Wisconsin;

 

 

The Journal of Cosmology;

Journal of Cosmology, 2011, Vol 13.

JournalofCosmology.com, 2011;

The CI Carbonaceous Chondrites as the Missing;

Old Meteorites of Mars and Implications for Early Mars Biology

 

Quote from the credible pdf format scientific Journal of Cosmology;

 

 

"The absence of hypervelocity impact material, together with the inclusion of solar flare tracked grains,

argues that the CI formed as a regolith in a velocity buffered

environment that also supported abundant liquid water, conditions

most easily achieved under a planetary atmosphere.

 

The fact that CI are 2% organic matter and are isotopicaly and chemically Martian

has profound implications for early Mars biology and supports

arguments for life signs found in ALH84001."

 

link for pdf/Journal of Cosmology; http://journalofcosmology.com/BrandenburgMeteor.pdf

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These FBI UFO documents appeared on April 11th,for public viewing under the freedom of information act and requests;

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I waited hours for these documents to download -- literally. 27 different items appeared when I used the search function to look for "flying saucers" and I still haven't had time to go through most of them:These are provided below in their respective links; Invaluable to the serious researcher i feel;Some are hard to deceiver due to their age but the ones i have been able to read are very interesting and do show that the FBI took UFO reports seriously behind the scenes; B)

 

UFO Part 12 of 16; http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 13 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2013%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 2 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%202%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 14 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2014%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 16 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2016%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 1 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%201%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 15 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2015%20of%2016/view

 

Project Blue Book (UFO) part 1 of 1

http://vault.fbi.gov/Project%20Blue%20Book%20%28UFO%29%20/Project%20Blue%20Book%20%28UFO%29%20part%201%20of%201/view

 

National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) Part 1 of 3

http://vault.fbi.gov/National%20Investigations%20Committee%20on%20Aerial%20Phenomena%20%28NICAP%29/National%20Investigations%20Committee%20on%20Aerial%20Phenomena%20%28NICAP%29%20Part%201%20of%203/view

 

UFO Part 11 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2011%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 8 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%208%20of%2016/view

 

Guy Hottel;

http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/

 

Guy Hottel was a Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Washington Field Office. The information concerning Mr. Hottel is in regard to a March 22, 1950, memo;

 

UFO Part 6 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%206%20of%2016/view

 

National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) Part 2 of 3

http://vault.fbi.gov/National%20Investigations%20Committee%20on%20Aerial%20Phenomena%20%28NICAP%29/National%20Investigations%20Committee%20on%20Aerial%20Phenomena%20%28NICAP%29%20Part%202%20of%203/view

 

UFO Part 3 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%203%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 9 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%209%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 5 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%205%20of%2016/view

 

UFO Part 7 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%207%20of%2016/view

 

Criminal Profiling Part 6 of 7;

http://vault.fbi.gov/Criminal%20Profiling/Criminal%20Profiling%20Part%206%20of%207/view

 

UFO Part 4 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%204%20of%2016/view

 

Sen. Joseph (Joe) McCarthy Part 19 of 56;

http://vault.fbi.gov/Sen.%20Joseph%20%28Joe%29%20McCarthy/Sen.%20Joseph%20%28Joe%29%20McCarthy%20Part%2019%20of%2056/view

 

UFO Part 10 of 16;

http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2010%20of%2016/view

 

Walter Winchell Part 26 of 58;

http://vault.fbi.gov/Walter%20Winchell%20/Walter%20Winchell%20Part%2026%20of%2058/view

 

Malcolm Little (Malcolm X) HQ File 04 of 27;

http://vault.fbi.gov/malcolm-little-malcolm-x/malcolm-little-malcolm-x-hq-file-04-of-27/view

 

Frank Sinatra Part 05 of 29;

http://vault.fbi.gov/Frank%20Sinatra/Frank%20Sinatra%20Part%205%20of%2029/view

 

Malcolm X Part 5 of 38;

http://vault.fbi.gov/Malcolm%20X/Malcolm%20X%20Part%205%20of%2038/view

 

link source; FBI public viewing UFO files;

http://vault.fbi.gov/search?SearchableText=flying+saucers

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Rather impressive footage of a comet "sun -diving" captured from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory LASCO 2 and 3;ML B)

 

 

SUN-DIVING COMET:

quote;

"A comet just discovered by amateur astronomer Sergey Shurpakov is diving past the sun today, and it will probably not survive. Click here; http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2011/11may11/sundiver.gif'>http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2011/11may11/sundiver.gif to view a movie of the death plunge recorded by the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory--and check back for updates in the hours ahead;"

link; http://www.spaceweather.com/

 

 

 

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What does that mean?

 

 

Sorry,should have added that there is nothing to panic about, :D its quite common for meteorites, comets ect to be pulled in to the sun by its massive gravitational pull, just thought it looked a wee bit cool; B)

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