The Maroonlegions UFO All-in-One Mammoth Thread

[scott_jambo]

Seen this myself and i really enjoyed it, i really like Michio Kaku, the area of Quantum Mechanics and dare my i add Quantum Physics are the areas of physics to watch.

 

 

Michio Kaku is a cool guy.

[maroonlegions]

The Late Great Bill Hicks UFO - Video.

 

I am posting this video not only to lighten the mood and make a few of you laugh but because it puts in to serious context just how some of us humans act and operate with most things that appear strange and contain high levels of strangeness and from the sources that are reporting them. .This video contains strong language.

 

QUOTE from Hicks;

"Today, a young man on *Banned word* realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration ? that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death; life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... Here's Tom with the weather!"

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1MuT_KSOo4

 

 

 

His humor challenged mainstream beliefs, aiming to "enlighten people to think for themselves."[1] Hicks used a ribald approach to express his material.

 

 

For those of you that have not heard of this man please take a look here Bill Hicks link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks

[maroonlegions]

Michio Kaku is a cool guy.

 

 

Correct Scott, imagine having a few beers and a chin wag with him eh, mind blowing but fun.

[maroonlegions]

Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO Admitted In His Deathbed Confession;

 

 

Ben Rich, the ?Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber? and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works below;

 

Quote from source;

"According to article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal [Link];http://www.amazon.com/Mufon-UFO-Journal/dp/B00006KOOT?ie=UTF8&tag=ufbl-20&link_code=btl&camp=213689&creative=392969 - Ben Rich, the ?Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber? and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works,had once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real And U.S. Military Travel To Stars."

 

"What he said might be new to many people today, but he revealed the information before his death in January 1995. His statements helped to give credence to reports that the U.S. military has been flying vehicles that mimic alien craft".

 

"The article was written by Tom Keller, an aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems analyst for NASA?s Jet Propulsion Laboratory".

 

link source; http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/08/ufo-are-real-ben-rich-lockheed-skunk.html

 

 

Right, just in case anyone feels the need to get their knickers in a twist i am taking this article with a pinch of salt just now until i can find more information on it.I see that Tom Keller, an aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems analyst for NASA?s Jet Propulsion Laboratory wrote this article and is one credible source but i feel more collaborating and credible sources are needed here.ML.

[Guest John Meurig Thomas]

Kaku's a roaster, btw. There are plenty of physicists who can paint a great picture of the Universe without resorting to unproven, spurious shite.

[maroonlegions]

VLT May Have Proven That Our Laws Of Physics Are Wrong - The Universe Is Not Equal!

 

 

 

quotes from source;

"the VLT (Very Large Telescope) in Chile has found that may prove our science based knowledge of laws and physics in the universe is completely and utterly incorrect and the so called experts in these matters may have to issue apologies for trying to ridicule the people who disagreed with them".

 

"Defying Einstein's equivalence principle, which states that the laws of physics are the same everywhere, researchers have found new evidence that supports the idea that we live in an area of the universe that is "just right" for our existence".

 

Taking data from the Very Large Telescope (VLT) in Chile Webb has observed that alpha varies in space rather than time.

 

The VLT data suggests that, elsewhere in the universe, the value of alpha is very slightly bigger than on Earth;

 

Laws of physics are not the same everywhere;

source link; http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancellery/mediacentre/media-centre/news/2010/09/physics-laws-vary-throughout-the-universe'>http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancellery/mediacentre/media-centre/news/2010/09/physics-laws-vary-throughout-the-universe

 

The study will be published in Physical Review Letters. (ANI)

link;

http://sify.com/news/laws-of-physics-are-not-the-same-everywhere-news-international-kjjquecfcbi.html'>http://sify.com/news/laws-of-physics-are-not-the-same-everywhere-news-international-kjjquecfcbi.html

 

various links that relate to this main article;

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant

http://www.eso.org/public/

http://sify.com/news/laws-of-physics-are-not-the-same-everywhere-news-international-kjjquecfcbi.html

 

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3720/scientists-propose-a-variable-law-physics

 

http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancellery/mediacentre/media-centre/news/2010/09/physics-laws-vary-throughout-the-universe

 

 

Very interesting discovery that could add some more creditability to the possibility that possible advanced intelligences are working with or have advanced understandings of their Laws Of Physics; Could this be indicating the possibility that space travel over vast distances by other intelligences could exist.Time will tell as usual but the more that is being discovered just now is very intriguing.ML.

[maroonlegions]

source quote;

?The implications for our current understanding of science are profound. If the laws of physics turn out to be merely 'local by-laws', it might be that whilst our observable part of the universe favours the existence of life and human beings, other far more distant regions may exist where different laws preclude the formation of life, at least as we know it.?

 

?If our results are correct, clearly we shall need new physical theories to satisfactorily describe them.?

link; http://www.swinburne.edu.au/chancellery/mediacentre/media-centre/news/2010/09/physics-laws-vary-throughout-the-universe

 

This discovery and corresponding preliminary paper is under "peer review" just now; peer review link here;

http://arxiv.org/abs/1008.3907

 

The above quotes are pretty profound, that is to say "IF" this discovery is accepted by the peer reviewers and is giving the scientific stamp of acceptance.Holding ones breath just now, so its a case of wait and see as usual.ML.

[Greedy_Jambo]

I think we can safely rule out the possibility of aliens living in the dulce base and at various other bases such as area 51 when scientists go straight for space and don't even bother looking close to home.

[Bigsmak]

Does anyone on this thread know anything about the SPACE POPE?

 

[maroonlegions]

Does anyone want their name sent to Mars on NASAs next Mars Science Laboratory rover named "Curiosity", i have.If you do then submit it on the link i have provided below from NASAs web site;

 

 

Here is my reply below i got when i was successful at submitting my name for the next Mars trip.

 

"You are part of history"!

Your name will be carried to Mars on a microchip

carried by NASA's Mars Science Laboratory rover.

 

Certificate number:**************** Date: September 16, 2010;

 

 

 

http://marsparticipate.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/participate/sendyourname/

 

source quote from submission form;

 

SEND YOUR NAME TO MARS;

This is your chance to go to Mars!

Fill in your information below and your name will be included with others on a microchip on the Mars Science Laboratory rover heading to Mars in 2011!

 

The rover for NASA's Mars Science Laboratory mission, Curiosity, exercised its mobility system by driving over raised ramps in recent testing at JPL;

[maroonlegions]

Does anyone on this thread know anything about the SPACE POPE?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is the information below any good or helpful on this SPACE POPE? Sure i seen this very chap on the news today sliding about particular parts of the capital, has to be thousands of witnesses too and caught on film too and camera.

 

?The implications for our current understanding of science are profound. If the laws of physics turn out to be merely 'local by-laws', it might be that whilst our observable part of the universe favours the existence of life and human beings, other far more distant regions may exist where different laws preclude the formation of life, at least as we know it.?

[maroonlegions]

This is how ET could get to us - Video;

 

This is how Stephen Hawkings imagines a incredibly advanced ET race with reach us, by harnessing the power of an entire sun and using it to open up a wormhole.

That's a very interesting idea. Trust Hawking to think of it. He's one of the few people alive who could potentially communicate with highly advanced Extraterrestrials somewhere near their level of intelligence.Steven Hawking makes a good point.A point i think about deception and government.

 

his quote;

"If Governments are involved at a UFO coverup they seem to be doing a better job at it than anything else"

 

Who here knows where a trillion dollars went in the last decade? ya, me neither.

 

 

 

Part 1 (Of the good stuff);

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLNF_htGNs&feature=related

 

 

 

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuelAmV5nC8&feature=related

[maroonlegions]

Big Problems for UFO Sightings in the future.

Here is a new type of RC craft which will possibly be mistaking or perceived as genuine unknown objects in videos and sightings in the future.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLuqqSW0zX8

 

 

As these toys become cheaper, more efficient (can carry heavier loads like LED lights), and easier to use.....I predict a lot of people will be fooled into thinking they are witnessing UFOs when in face it is simply another RC user.

 

In a way, this could possibly bring more attention to the subject from people who are not already exposed to it...but in the end I can see it leading to a sort of complacency where people do not care about objects floating around in the sky because so many of them are RC toys.

[maroonlegions]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3147808273125357593

 

 

Interesting video, 48 mins long, Horizon documentary, entitled."we are the aliens", or we might all have extraterrestrial DNA,or that life as we know it on this planet MIGHT have came from space.

[maroonlegions]

Pope's astronomer says he would baptise an alien if it asked him;

 

An alien ? 'no matter how many tentacles it has' ? could have a soul, says pope's astronomer;

 

"Consolmagno curates the pope's meteorite collection and is a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican's observatory. He dismissed the ideas of intelligent design ? a pseudoscientific version of creationism".

 

 

Guy Consolmagno, one of the pope's astronomers, said he would be 'delighted' if intelligent life was found among the stars.

 

 

Well, what can one say,i could imagine a highly advanced intelligence "body swerving" that offer.

 

link; http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/17/pope-astronomer-baptise-aliens%20

[happyp]

 

Big Problems for UFO Sightings in the future.

Here is a new type of RC craft which will possibly be mistaking or perceived as genuine unknown objects in videos and sightings in the future.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLuqqSW0zX8

 

 

As these toys become cheaper, more efficient (can carry heavier loads like LED lights), and easier to use.....I predict a lot of people will be fooled into thinking they are witnessing UFOs when in face it is simply another RC user.

 

In a way, this could possibly bring more attention to the subject from people who are not already exposed to it...but in the end I can see it leading to a sort of complacency where people do not care about objects floating around in the sky because so many of them are RC toys.

 

You should really quote the original articles:

 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread612742/pg1

 

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1059258087

[hughesie27]

Why is it assumed that if there are aliens out there, that they are more intelligent than us?

[maroonlegions]

NASA: Dust Models Paint Alien's View of Solar System;

 

QUOTES;

"New supercomputer simulations tracking the interactions of thousands of dust grains show what the solar system might look like to alien astronomers searching for planets. The models also provide a glimpse of how this view might have changed as our planetary system matured".

 

"The planets may be too dim to detect directly, but aliens studying the solar system could easily determine the presence of Neptune -- its gravity carves a little gap in the dust," said Marc Kuchner, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. who led the study. "We're hoping our models will help us spot Neptune-sized worlds around other stars."

 

 

SOURCE; http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/dust-model.html

 

Interesting article and video on what NASA"S perceptions are on what possible Alien intelligences could see or detect if they where searching for planets in say our solar system.ML.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op1mSSfLbiY

[maroonlegions]

UN 'to appoint space ambassador to greet alien visitors';

 

source quote;

 

"A space ambassador could be appointed by the United Nations to act as the first point of contact for aliens trying to communicate with Earth."

Mazlan Othman, a Malaysian astrophysicist, is set to be tasked with co-ordinating humanity?s response if and when extraterrestrials make contact.

Aliens who landed on earth and asked: ?Take me to your leader? would be directed to Mrs Othman".

 

 

Mrs Othman is currently head of the UN?s little known Office for Outer Space Affairs (Unoosa) .

 

 

source link; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8025832/UN-to-appoint-space-ambassador-to-greet-alien-visitors.html

 

 

VIDEO;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8027037/UN-to-appoint-space-ambassador.html

 

 

Well as it says "space ambassador", Will Smith,(MIB),will be peshed off

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyaeKj83LTM&feature=related

 

 

 

Seriously though a "Malaysian astrophysicist" is a credible source to even entertain such a position.ML.

[maroonlegions]

UFO Uprising concert in Denver coincides with extraterrestrial Ballot Initiative??

 

 

Snippet from Article: dated Sept 18, 2010

 

"On October 2, the popular British Rock group Muse travels to Denver for a concert that is part of their North American Resistance Tour. Muse is best known for its number one hit Uprising and other songs featuring themes of revolutionary change, ending UFO secrecy, and government mind control. In their recent two night concert stint in Wembley, England before a combined audience of 150,000, a giant UFO appeared as a prop while singing Exo-gensis from their 2009 Resistance album".Muse?s Resistance Tour arrives in Denver during a truly revolutionary event. The proposed creation of an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission through a ballot initiative officially titled Initiative 300. The brainchild of Denver City resident Jeff Peckman, Initiative 300 aims to educate the citizens of Denver about issues concerning extraterrestrial life. Debate about Peckman?s Extraterrestrial Commission heats up around the same time as Muse?s Resistance Tour hits town to inspire a North American uprising against UFO secrecy".

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y3GGGgLpPI]

 

 

source; http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-honolulu/ufo-uprising-concert-denver-coincides-with-extraterrestrial-ballot-initiative

 

And it's just like Muse that their gig would coincide with something "Extraterrstial".

Knowing Matt Bellamy, the singer from Muse i bet he done this on purpose.A band of Muses stature and the huge fan base they have got plus the numbers that go to see them live and buy their albums is a very big audience to be exposed to this kind of material.ML.

[maroonlegions]

UFO Press Conference (Full Video) - September 27th, 2010;

 

Full video here;

 

http://a53.video2.blip.tv/7530006646160/Exopolitik-NPCPressConferenceUFOsAndNukesSept272010636.mp4?bri=18.7&brs=333

 

Interesting video, some credible sources/ witnesses and testimony's coming out, this presentation was covered live by the American news channel CNN.

[Jam Tarts 1874]

UN 'to appoint space ambassador to greet alien visitors';

 

source quote;

 

"A space ambassador could be appointed by the United Nations to act as the first point of contact for aliens trying to communicate with Earth."

Mazlan Othman, a Malaysian astrophysicist, is set to be tasked with co-ordinating humanity?s response if and when extraterrestrials make contact.

Aliens who landed on earth and asked: ?Take me to your leader? would be directed to Mrs Othman".

 

 

Mrs Othman is currently head of the UN?s little known Office for Outer Space Affairs (Unoosa) .

 

 

source link; http://www.telegraph...n-visitors.html

 

 

VIDEO;

http://www.telegraph...ambassador.html

 

 

Well as it says "space ambassador", Will Smith,(MIB),will be peshed off

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyaeKj83LTM&feature=related

 

 

 

Seriously though a "Malaysian astrophysicist" is a credible source to even entertain such a position.ML.

 

 

 

 

Well as long as she avoids the "Mars Attacks" approach we'll be fine.

 

 

 

[Denny Crane]

Why is it assumed that if there are aliens out there, that they are more intelligent than us?

 

As Bill Hicks once said about alien sightings in Alabama, his greatest fear that we're going to be invaded by Martian rednecks.

[maroonlegions]

UFO over Australia -- 17-09-2010;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cyl3ouVC40

 

witness source quote;

 

"This was captured on my phone over Nowra (Australia) on the 17th of September 2010. This is unedited, has has no sound and is slightly blurry. I couldn't figure out how to fix it so I apologize. I didn't hear any sound from the object (probably too far away). In by saying that it's a UFO I'm not claiming it's an alien, just trying to get opinions. It creates a cool halo on the clouds. I uploaded this directly to youtube in 3pg format",

 

witness source quote;

 

"I was using a 2.0 mega-pixel phone camera.

The phone was a LG KP500

Video quality set to highest (lol)

As I explained above there was no sound, I'm apologize"!

 

 

This video is still under investigation for authenticity and for any signs of CGI.

 

Just by the way it traveled (in a semi-circle) we can automatically rule out plane. Now, whether it was a helicopter is another story. I can't think of anything that would illuminate the clouds as much as that.

 

Either the clouds were extremely low or the object was much bigger and further away than it appears to be in the vid. Also A few things jumped out at me about it. The apparent brightness of the object was very high. It was as bright as the nearby streetlights at a much greater distance. The rapid directional change. It wasn't gravity defying but for a conventional fixed-win or rotary craft it was rather abrupt. ...especially in a population center. Thirdly the fade out at the end.Very interesting indeed IF legit.

[maroonlegions]

Well as long as she avoids the "Mars Attacks" approach we'll be fine.

 

 

 

Mazlan Binti Othman is a Malaysian astrophysicist who has served in several roles within her country, and as Director of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs in Vienna:

 

Honors;

 

In the 1997 Agong's honours list, Tuanku Ja'afar, tenth Yang di-Pertuan Agong of Malaysia, conferred the federal decoration and order Panglima Jasa Negara (for meritorious service) on Othman, granting her the honorific "Datuk."[12]

Also in 1997, Othman's alma mater, the University of Otago, awarded her the degree of Honorary Doctor of Science.[13]

 

In 2009, for "her work in developing astronomy education in Malaysia and her leading national and international role in space science," the Institute of Physics awarded Othman its President's Medal.[14

 

link source; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazlan_Othman

 

 

Well does that look like someone who is not credible enough or is it just because she is Malaysian and never mind her credentials.

[maroonlegions]

Why is it assumed that if there are aliens out there, that they are more intelligent than us?

 

 

I suppose assuming is a human trend but of course i am not saying that ALL possible intelligences out there are smarter than us, there could be many varying degrees of intelligence who knows. But IF SOME of the UFOs that have been recorded over the years are POSSIBLE ET in origins then surely those that posses the technological know how to get here are more than likely very advanced and much more intelligent by the technology they posses.

[maroonlegions]

You should really quote the original articles:

 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread612742/pg1

 

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1059258087

 

 

Sorry to have confused you but IAM the poster that started that thread on the David Icke forum link you provided ,i am the poster JAMESC. Also on that post i did quote the source link for the U-Tube video and the quotes from http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread612742/pg1.Sorry to have NOT provided the source quotes for http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread612742/pg1.ON HERE.

[maroonlegions]

Just found this on the NASA site.

Seems it's official. http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/gliese_581_feature.html

 

 

 

SOURCE QUOTE;

"Steven Vogt, professor of astronomy and astrophysics at UC Santa Cruz, and Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution lead the Lick-Carnegie Exoplanet Survey. The team's new findings are reported in a paper published in the Astrophysical Journal and posted online at:

http://arxiv.org/

 

"Our findings offer a very compelling case for a potentially habitable planet," said Vogt. "The fact that we were able to detect this planet so quickly and so nearby tells us that planets like this must be really common."

 

 

source quote below from different source but is important;

 

"This star is only 20 light years away, really in our backyard, on the scale of the Galaxy, which is 100,000 light years across. The article brings out the fact that a POSSIBLE,(MY ADD ON). habitable planet, found so near Earth, and so early in the process of searching for Earth-like planets, suggests that *at least* 15-20% of all stars are likely to have habitable planets. That would mean several of these within the same 20 light years. *Plenty* of places for life".

 

link source; http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread615402/pg1

 

 

 

We are really living in very exciting times i feel just now.Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, is really excited but as usual time will tell but still very interesting.Also there was a strange signal detected coming from star Gliese 581, also known as HO Librae and Wolf 562 recently by an astrophysicist.ML.

 

 

related videos;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhkfIrJ_Ic

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2n09-jVkH4

 

 

Story here as well; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39427032

[maroonlegions]

Follow ON FROM LAST POST;

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems that this astrophysicist Ragbir Bhathal from the University of Western Sydney discovered a "suspicious" laser-like signal coming from the coordinates of Gliese 581 e during a SETI sweep last year. Interesting times we live in indeed.Like what astrophysicist Ragbir Bhathal was quoted as saying;

"It?s confirmed, there is a signal there. But the problem is, what is that signal, you see? And that is the problem we have now. We need to search some more space"

 

RAGBIR BHATHAL: AUSSIE ALIEN HUNTER;

 

 

 

SOURCE QUOTE;

 

"Unlike most of the tin-foil hat wearing whackadoos in his field, Dr. Bhathal is a hard scientist working with university money to find extraterrestrials. In fact, he teaches the only Search for ExtraTerrestrial Life class offered in all of Australia. His hard-nosed approach perhaps explains why you?ve yet to hear this big news: Before he can broadcast his findings to the world, Bhathal must put them through rigorous examination. First, he needs to make sure it wasn?t caused by a glitch or some random, weird space phenomenon. After that, he?ll will need his findings peer-reviewed. Both steps require finding the signal again, which has taken nearly a year already;

 

link source and for full interview from astrophysicist Ragbir Bhathal below;

http://www.vbs.tv/en-gb/blog/ragbir-bhathal-aussie-alien-hunter

 

 

See the rest at VBS.TV: RAGBIR BHATHAL: AUSSIE ALIEN HUNTER - ROYCE AKERS & ALEX DUNBAR | VBS.TV Blog

 

"Astrophysicist Ragbir Bhathal at the University of Western Sydney discovered a "suspicious" laser-like signal coming from the coordinates of Gliese 581 e during a SETI sweep. Bhathal is still investigating the signal and scanning the coordinates for a repeat detection".

source;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_e'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_e

 

Here's a bit about optical SETI on the link below;

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/resources/seti/3304566.html?page=3&c=y

 

 

Gliese 581 e (pronounced /??li?z?/) or Gl 581 e is the fourth extrasolar planet found around Gliese 581, an M3V red dwarf star approximately 20.5 light-years away from Earth in the constellation of Libra.

 

LINK; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_e

[The People's Chimp]

Can all alien spotters please invest in new phones as the 2 mp videos on youtube just aren't cutting it.

[maroonlegions]

Very interesting information on the present "Extremophiles" forms recently discovered here on earth that can survive in very extreme conditions.So life can survive and thrive anywhere,from extreme conditions or environments, so not necessarily life has to be what we humans require to survive.What is the chances of this kind of life form existing on other exoplanets. So in hindsight it was thought and perceived that once upon a time,the Earth was flat and in the center of the Universe..

 

As of today, September 2010, astronomers have announced confirmed detections of 490 such planets, 490 planets in our vicinity 490.

 

It does seem and backed up by credible sources, that ALL or any planetary systems that might exist where rare but its looking increasing likely, judging by more discoverers that have taken place that planetary systems are in fact more common place than were previously dreamed or perceived of.

 

 

quote;

"When water freezes, the life can go into suspension and remain that way almost indefinitely until temperatures increase to a level where activity can resume - ie liquid water."

 

"In 1998, Richard Hoover of NASA's Marshall Space Sciences Laboratory and Dr S S Abyzov of the Russian Academy of Sciences found ice cores from Lake Vostock contained microbes like one (above) which is yet to be identified. Other life forms recovered from the lake ice at depths as much as 3.5 km (about 2 miles) down have been more recognizable and include cyanobacteria, bacteria, fungi, spores, pollen grains, and diatoms. These organisms are thought to have become trapped in the ice about 400,000 years ago."

source; http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast12mar98_1.htm

 

 

1. Acidophile - An organism that requires a highly acid environment (PH 3 or below) to thrive.

 

2.Alkaliphile - As above, but requires a highly alkaline environment (PH 9 or more)

 

3.Halophile - Organism that require a highly saline (salty) environment above 0.2M (0.2M minimum)

 

4.Hyperthermophile - Thrives in temperatures between 80-122 degrees centigrade, such as hydrothermal vents.

 

5.Lithoautotroph - Usually a bacterium that basically eats CO2 and rocks to survive.

 

6.Metallotolerant - An organism that can tolerate extremely high levels of toxic metals, arsenic, zinc, copper...

 

7.Piezophile - Can survive and thrive in environments of extremely high pressures, far beneath the surface.

 

8.Polyextremophile - can survive a number of the above environments, as opposed to a single one. (tough critters)

 

9.Psychrophile/Cryophile - Survives and thrives at 15 degrees centigrade or lower, polar ice, permafrost etc.

 

10.Radioresistant - Can survive and thrive in highly radioactive environments, nuclear reactor, ionizing radiation.

 

11.Thermophile - Thrives in temperatures between 60-80 degrees centigrade.

 

12.Xerophile - Survives and thrives in extremely arid, H2O absent environments.

 

This page from the Guardians website provides more detailed information about different types of extremophiles.

link; http://www.theguardians.com/Microbiology/gm_mbm04.htm

 

 

Here you can find a long list of links to articles about all possible kinds of extremophiles;

http://www.astrobiology.com/extreme.html

 

And apparently there are more, and are not only limited to the microbes and bacteria forms, will be looking into that;

[The People's Chimp]

Very interesting information on the present "Extremophiles" forms recently discovered here on earth that can survive in very extreme conditions.So life can survive and thrive anywhere,from extreme conditions or environments, so not necessarily life has to be what we humans require to survive.What is the chances of this kind of life form existing on other exoplanets. So in hindsight it was thought and perceived that once upon a time,the Earth was flat and in the center of the Universe..

 

As of today, September 2010, astronomers have announced confirmed detections of 490 such planets, 490 planets in our vicinity 490.

 

It does seem and backed up by credible sources, that ALL or any planetary systems that might exist where rare but its looking increasing likely, judging by more discoverers that have taken place that planetary systems are in fact more common place than were previously dreamed or perceived of.

 

 

quote;

"When water freezes, the life can go into suspension and remain that way almost indefinitely until temperatures increase to a level where activity can resume - ie liquid water."

 

"In 1998, Richard Hoover of NASA's Marshall Space Sciences Laboratory and Dr S S Abyzov of the Russian Academy of Sciences found ice cores from Lake Vostock contained microbes like one (above) which is yet to be identified. Other life forms recovered from the lake ice at depths as much as 3.5 km (about 2 miles) down have been more recognizable and include cyanobacteria, bacteria, fungi, spores, pollen grains, and diatoms. These organisms are thought to have become trapped in the ice about 400,000 years ago."

source; http://science.msfc....st12mar98_1.htm

 

 

1. Acidophile - An organism that requires a highly acid environment (PH 3 or below) to thrive.

 

2.Alkaliphile - As above, but requires a highly alkaline environment (PH 9 or more)

 

3.Halophile - Organism that require a highly saline (salty) environment above 0.2M (0.2M minimum)

 

4.Hyperthermophile - Thrives in temperatures between 80-122 degrees centigrade, such as hydrothermal vents.

 

5.Lithoautotroph - Usually a bacterium that basically eats CO2 and rocks to survive.

 

6.Metallotolerant - An organism that can tolerate extremely high levels of toxic metals, arsenic, zinc, copper...

 

7.Piezophile - Can survive and thrive in environments of extremely high pressures, far beneath the surface.

 

8.Polyextremophile - can survive a number of the above environments, as opposed to a single one. (tough critters)

 

9.Psychrophile/Cryophile - Survives and thrives at 15 degrees centigrade or lower, polar ice, permafrost etc.

 

10.Radioresistant - Can survive and thrive in highly radioactive environments, nuclear reactor, ionizing radiation.

 

11.Thermophile - Thrives in temperatures between 60-80 degrees centigrade.

 

12.Xerophile - Survives and thrives in extremely arid, H2O absent environments.

 

This page from the Guardians website provides more detailed information about different types of extremophiles.

link; http://www.theguardi...gy/gm_mbm04.htm

 

 

Here you can find a long list of links to articles about all possible kinds of extremophiles;

http://www.astrobiol...om/extreme.html

 

And apparently there are more, and are not only limited to the microbes and bacteria forms, will be looking into that;

 

 

All this talk of philes surviving in extreme conditions will have gary glitter dancing a jig.

 

Sickening.

 

 

[maroonlegions]

Can all alien spotters please invest in new phones as the 2 mp videos on youtube just aren't cutting it.

 

 

Well "alien spotters" is a big "say".As has been digressed before the term given to any object ect that is not easily identifiable is "UFO"and is often attributed to mean,its unidentified, its flying and is some kind of object but COULD BE ANY MISIDENTIFIED object and "Alien" is a possibility i personally feel,like all other possible explanations NONE of the videos showing high levels of strangeness like, manoeuvres, sudden change in accelerations ect should be ruled out until fully investigated.Infra-red is the way forward on cameras ect equipped with night vision also is a way forward also.

 

Some of them NEED further study and investigation its only natural to percive or think, "lets be sure".There are people or organisations who i feel are qualified to carry out these investigation's or deserved to be listen to if they feel SOME sightings fall in to the category of "genuine unknowns" after further investigations.

 

While i admit u-tube is full of hoaxes and fakes it would be rather persumsious and naive to dismiss ALL footage as hoaxes and fakes but that is just my perception.

 

To that end, here?s some information; I'm sure that even a man of your calibre after visiting and even looking into the links provided and the information below that you will admit that this enigma goes WELL beyond the pesy easily to spot faked/hoaxed u-tube UFO videos.

 

 

Where can I make UFO reports?

 

National Investigations Committee On Aerial Phenomena (NICAP)

http://www.nicap.org/

 

If you are in Law Enforcement, or in the scientific communitee, you can contact

Citizens against UFO Secrecy (CUFOS)

http://www.cufos.org/sighting.html

 

If you are a pilot, you can contact the National Aviation Reporting Center for Anamolous

Phenomena (NARCAP)

http://www.narcap.org/

The following information would be helpful to know, even when reporting a sighting here on KB,(not necessary, but the more info the better)

 

Date of sighting?

Time of sighting (include time zone, am or pm)?

How long did the sighting last?

City, state of sighting (or nation, province, etc.)?

How many other witnesses?

Just lights, or shape discernable?

Colour of lights and/or object/s?

Number of lights and/or objects?

Apparent altitude?

Direction of travel?

Apparent brightness?

Path of travel (straight, curved, etc.)?

Any pictures or video?

Any sound?

Any aircraft around?

Can you illustrate what was seen (if no photos, video, etc.)? (even MS paint can be used to illustrate where things were during a sighting, etc.)

 

Adding this to show how to get Air Traffic Controller logs....

 

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread261795/pg1

[Guest John Meurig Thomas]

Just found this on the NASA site.

Seems it's official. http://www.nasa.gov/...81_feature.html

 

 

 

source quote below from different source but is important;

 

"This star is only 20 light years away, really in our backyard, on the scale of the Galaxy, which is 100,000 light years across. The article brings out the fact that a POSSIBLE,(MY ADD ON). habitable planet, found so near Earth, and so early in the process of searching for Earth-like planets, suggests that *at least* 15-20% of all stars are likely to have habitable planets. That would mean several of these within the same 20 light years. *Plenty* of places for life".

 

 

It's tidally locked to the sun, too. All-day benders on that planet must be immense.

[Jam Tarts 1874]

Very interesting information on the present "Extremophiles" forms recently discovered here on earth that can survive in very extreme conditions.So life can survive and thrive anywhere,from extreme conditions or environments, so not necessarily life has to be what we humans require to survive.What is the chances of this kind of life form existing on other exoplanets. So in hindsight it was thought and perceived that once upon a time,the Earth was flat and in the center of the Universe..

 

As of today, September 2010, astronomers have announced confirmed detections of 490 such planets, 490 planets in our vicinity 490.

 

It does seem and backed up by credible sources, that ALL or any planetary systems that might exist where rare but its looking increasing likely, judging by more discoverers that have taken place that planetary systems are in fact more common place than were previously dreamed or perceived of.

 

 

quote;

"When water freezes, the life can go into suspension and remain that way almost indefinitely until temperatures increase to a level where activity can resume - ie liquid water."

 

"In 1998, Richard Hoover of NASA's Marshall Space Sciences Laboratory and Dr S S Abyzov of the Russian Academy of Sciences found ice cores from Lake Vostock contained microbes like one (above) which is yet to be identified. Other life forms recovered from the lake ice at depths as much as 3.5 km (about 2 miles) down have been more recognizable and include cyanobacteria, bacteria, fungi, spores, pollen grains, and diatoms. These organisms are thought to have become trapped in the ice about 400,000 years ago."

source; http://science.msfc....st12mar98_1.htm

 

 

1. Acidophile - An organism that requires a highly acid environment (PH 3 or below) to thrive.

 

2.Alkaliphile - As above, but requires a highly alkaline environment (PH 9 or more)

 

3.Halophile - Organism that require a highly saline (salty) environment above 0.2M (0.2M minimum)

 

4.Hyperthermophile - Thrives in temperatures between 80-122 degrees centigrade, such as hydrothermal vents.

 

5.Lithoautotroph - Usually a bacterium that basically eats CO2 and rocks to survive.

 

6.Metallotolerant - An organism that can tolerate extremely high levels of toxic metals, arsenic, zinc, copper...

 

7.Piezophile - Can survive and thrive in environments of extremely high pressures, far beneath the surface.

 

8.Polyextremophile - can survive a number of the above environments, as opposed to a single one. (tough critters)

 

9.Psychrophile/Cryophile - Survives and thrives at 15 degrees centigrade or lower, polar ice, permafrost etc.

 

10.Radioresistant - Can survive and thrive in highly radioactive environments, nuclear reactor, ionizing radiation.

 

11.Thermophile - Thrives in temperatures between 60-80 degrees centigrade.

 

12.Xerophile - Survives and thrives in extremely arid, H2O absent environments.

 

This page from the Guardians website provides more detailed information about different types of extremophiles.

link; http://www.theguardi...gy/gm_mbm04.htm

 

 

Here you can find a long list of links to articles about all possible kinds of extremophiles;

http://www.astrobiol...om/extreme.html

 

And apparently there are more, and are not only limited to the microbes and bacteria forms, will be looking into that;

 

 

Liths eat CO2 - maybe the Liths aren't so useless after all.

[maroonlegions]

Liths eat CO2 - maybe the Liths aren't so useless after all.

 

As long as they stick the ball in the onion bag or help the team win then they could eat methane gasses from Mars for all i care.

[maroonlegions]

The Royal Academy to discuss ?extra-terrestrial life and the UN agenda.

 

 

 

Towards a scientific and societal agenda on extra-terrestrial life;

Starts: 9.00am on 04 October 2010

Finishes: 6.00pm on 05 October 2010

 

Venue: Kavli Royal Society International Centre;

Organised by Dr Martin Dominik and Professor John Zarnecki;

 

source quote;

"Should extra-terrestrial life exist, upcoming efforts will provide living generations with a realistic chance of its detection. Even more than the scientific agenda, a corresponding complementary societal agenda needs to be debated. With a mix of invited talks and panel debates, we particularly look into the detection of life, the communication with potential extra-terrestrial civilizations, the implications for the future of humanity, and the political processes that are required".

 

Four panel debates include;

 

1.Calling ET, or not even answering the phone?

 

2.Societal questions raised by the detection of extra-terrestrial life

 

3.What could studies of extra-terrestrial life tell us about the future of humanity?

 

4.Extra-terrestrial life and arising political issues for the UN agenda

 

Confirmed panellists;(credible sources in their fields of work);

 

Ivan Almar, Stephen Baxter, James Benford, David Brin, Milan Cirkovic, Richard Crowther, Kathryn Denning, Steven Dick, Stephane Dumas, Frans von der Dunk, John Elliott, Lisa Kaltenegger, Claudio Maccone, Michael Michaud, Mazlan Othman, Ted Peters, Margaret Race, Seth Shostak, John Smart, Nicholas Tosca, Doug Vakoch, Clement Vidal, Felisa Wolfe-Simon, Alexander Zaitsev

 

link source and Royal Academy"s web site;http://royalsociety.org/extra-terrestrial-life/

 

source quote from another out let covering this news;

"The UN?s Mazlan Othman says she?ll be attending the conference at The Royal Society of London for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge (aka ?The Royal Society?) next week.

Mazlan Othman, is the Malaysian astrophysicist who heads the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA)".

source link; http://www.datelinezero.com/?p=4274

 

 

Very interesting that this very well respected and well known organisation with very credible and respected scientific academics is yet AGAIN holding a very serious one day talk and discussion presentation on Extraterrestrials and the impacts on society if we ever where contacted or their presence confirmed.Adding to the latter the fact that the UN are percived by most of the worlds population as one of the most credible and respected organisations on this planet.Its quite astounding the amount of coverage this subject is receiving by the main steam media and various credible organisations and academics as of late.If one looks or searches it is apparent that this subject is receiving substantial coverage.ML;

 

Some important points to remember or take notice off i feel;

 

1) U.S. Nuclear Weapons Have Been Compromised by Unidentified Aerial Objects leading to an event at the Press Club in DC that was covered by the MSM , (CNN, American media newS station).

 

2) Vatican?s astronomer says he?d love to ?baptise an alien?, the Vatican has over the years made several reference's to the possibilities of Et contact or versification and its own astronomers have been vocal too.The Vatican has its own observatory with trained astronomers.

 

3) Discovery of the first earth like planet able to produce life or very good chance of possible life and conditions are right for life.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/29/5202633-alien-planet-looks-just-right-for-life

 

4) Mars, Here We Come!USA Congress Approves $19 Billion NASA Budget indicating that Mars is a very worthwhile conquest to the American administration or NASA. Methane,water in the form of ice caps being two of the recent discovers on Mars by NASA.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/30/mars-asteroid-congress-approves-nasa-budget/

 

5) Stephen Hawking, one of the most respected and revered scientific minds comes out and states his position on the topic.Again he is said to have said ,"its mathematically impossible" for there NOT to be Extraterrestrial life out there in what ever form that may take.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092705208.html

 

 

AND THIS NEW EXOPLANET;

 

[Lovecraft]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI

[maroonlegions]

In Depth With Michio Kaku;

 

 

source quote;

 

"Michio Kaku talked about his life, career, and his work. He responded to telephones calls and electronic communications. Michio Kaku is a theoretical physicist and co-founder of the string field theory, a branch of the string theory. He has taught at the City College of New York for 25 years and currently holds the school's Henry Semat Chair and Professorship in theoretical physics. He graduated summa cum laude from Harvard in 1968 with a B.S. in Physics and received his Ph.D. from the University of California, Berkeley in 1972".

 

"He is the host of two science radio shows and the Science Channel television series "Sci Fi Science." Michio Kaku is author of eight books, besides two text books: Beyond Einstein: The Cosmic Quest for the Theory of the Universe (1995); Hyperspace: A Scientific Odyssey Through Parallel Universes, Time Warps, and the Tenth Dimension (1995); Visions: How Science Will Revolutionize the 21st Century and Beyond (1999)";

 

source link for quote and video;http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/id/234213

 

Fantastic interview from this very open minded and highly respected Physicist.Love this man;

[maroonlegions]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtmpaM0PqyI

 

 

Nice one, cheers for posting this video, CNN covering this was quite big in the sense that certain media out lets are recognising that just,just maybe these guys are not talking non sense.

[maroonlegions]

Dr. Michio Kaku quote; "We will make contact with Alien Life...get use to it!

 

"OK he isn't saying that UFOs are real and ET is visiting Earth but he is willing to hypothesize on how they could reach us , thus giving weight to the theory that we are being visited despite the huge distances involved" .

 

"Dr Kaku also has an enthusiasm and way of explaining the complex that opens the subject up to the wider audience .

Dr. Michio Kaku's interview on the Science Channel TV Show called Brink -

December 2008".

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IqpjD3B5A

 

Michio Kaku On Aliens On Physics;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8dcb8iKSM

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXj4Po86gT0

[maroonlegions]

Peruvian Air Force pilot confess shooting at UFO;

 

 

The video below is that of Comandante Huerta?s full testimony taken from the video that Lovecraft posted the other day on the CNN coverage of these witnesses testimonies; I have included the original US department of defence declassified document on this incident to show that the "US defence chief of staff" at that time considered this incident very real and came to the conclusion that it was of an unknown origin.ML.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0Ws1WSuyI

 

 

 

source quote;

"More and more people in both high places and at the most secret functions are coming out, telling what they did and what they saw. This is a very honest testimony from a Peruvian Air Force Commander, who`s finally come forward at told his story. We thank him dearly for this.

Comandante Huerta?s full testimony follows":

 

 

Comandante Huerta?s quote from his testimony;

"I approached the object and strafed sixty-four 30 mm. shells at it. Some projectiles went towards the ground, and others hit the object fully, but they had no effect at all. The projectiles didn't bounce off; probably they were absorbed. The cone-shaped "wall of fire" that I sent out would normally obliterate anything in its path".

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1107/ufoconference5.html

 

A US Department of Defense document titled 'UFO Sighted in Peru' described the incident, stating that the vehicle's origin remains unknown.

 

link for US declassified document released under the freedom of information act;

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/foia_008.htm

[maroonlegions]

UFO Government Documentary Evidence ~ John Greenewald Junior.

 

Here is a man who has spent over nine years collecting highly credible and authentic US government documents.Below is just a taste of the masses of documents he has amassed over his nine year investigation's.ML.

 

 

quote;

"For nearly 9 years, John Greenewald, Jr. has been exploring the archives of the U.S. Government for undeniable proof of the UFO Phenomenon. In those nine years, he has created the largest online archive anywhere in the world. Join John as he sifts through the mounds of Government documents and see the most fascinating results;

 

 

XConference - John Greenewald Jr. - The Black Vault's Quest for Truth;

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7408692026357341951&ei=1NziSt-YKM3F-AbZ_qTABw&q=john+greenewald+junior+#

 

 

Some of the more interesting government UFO documents:

 

UFO visualy correllated by pilot and ground radar for 49 minutes;

 

49 MINUTES RADAR VISUAL UFO OBSERVATION, 1955:

The report is quite spectacular.

quote;

 

"It is a copy of a preliminary report of the Pepperell AFB, Newfoundland UFO sighting.

The authors are aware of the importance of the sighting: they acknowledge that there are radar/visual sightings "from time to time," but this one lasted 49 minutes.

Also, the pilot and the ground radar operator communicated in real time what the manoeuvers of the objects were and the concordance is established "exactly."

 

link; http://www.ufologie.net/htm/foia.htm

[maroonlegions]

[Mod Edit]

 

 

Please, take some time to read;

 

It seems that society as a whole is becoming more agressive in its approach to dealing with all kinds of subjects at the moment, and that makes the idea of civility and decorum even more important when dealing with this particular subject matter.

 

Sadly,I have noticed that recently in my posts of the this subject matter on UFOs you have on several occasions have posted with scorn, overt sarcasm, hostility and personal attacks;

 

Such methods are not in line with respect and decorum for members on here.

 

Sarcasm, scorn, hostility and personal attacks are the tools of the socially inept. They are not welcome mate. KICKBACK is not the comments section of Youtube and if you feel that you tube is the be all and end all to this mystery than that's your choice and really only goes to show how very little you know about this subject.

 

If you feel the need to belittle me or anyone for that matter who shows a interest then frankly you are better off not embarrassing yourself with blatant personal and immature posts that seek to derange this thread and attack my character. there is a law against it mate so do take note for any future personal attacks on me.

 

Not everything is a hoax - people do see genuinely unusual things in the sky that they cannot explain. Sometimes it may be a case of mistaken identity - if so then education on a subject matter will help. Sometimes what is seen is so baffling it defies explanation.

 

Yes, me and others and not doubt yourself are aware that there are hoaxers and charlatans out there who want to grab attention and maybe make a quick buck off the back of their claims. BUT - and its an important but - by making a hostile environment for people to post in the genuine and unusual cases may get lost, as people will most likely not post them for fear of derision, personal attacks ect.

 

Rational, civil discussion. Debate backed up with sources and information. If you suspect a hoax, prove its a hoax in a civil manner, with relevant information as to why you think it is.

 

Debate the post and not the poster would be a good reminder.

 

If you make a case for a hoax and can BACK it up then so be it.

 

I'm sure possibly some of the members of JKB would love to see the next big thing in UFOlogy break on the boards here So please,lets not ruin that chance.

 

Civility and Decorum are Required i feel, not childish slandering attacks that are out to score points in the "hey look at me boys i am funny eh"

[The Future's Maroon]

Well said ML, if people dont like what you post then they should take note of the thread and avoid it. There are plenty people who do read your thread.

[maroonlegions]

Well said ML, if people dont like what you post then they should take note of the thread and avoid it. There are plenty people who do read your thread.

 

 

Cheers for the above mate.Dont get me wrong i can take a bit of banter and like a joke also and i do expect the level of banter on this subject to be more vocal so to speak but i suppose everyone has their own levels of what is deemed respect for other people, i just felt it was enough.

[maroonlegions]

Early UFO cases:

THE CASE OF THE USAT DELAROF, 1945:

quote;

Case 54, CE2

Mar., 1945 Aleutian Islands. Aboard the US attack transport

"Delarof," 14 sailors saw a dark sphere rise out of the

ocean, follow a curved trajectory, and fly away after

circling their ship. (Evidence 30)

 

quote;

The above entry is from the Magonia Database, compiled by scientist Dr. Jacques Vall?e. One of my current acitivities is to cross check this database and get more details on its cases.

link; http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45.htm'>http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45.htm

 

SHORT SUMMARY:

 

A radioman named Robert S. Crawford reported years later to a NICAP consultant a UFO sighting he witnessed with 14 other crewmen aboard the US Attach Transport ship Delarof, in March 1945 or summer 1945, depending on the sources. The event took place while the ship was heading back to Seattle, and was in the open sea past Adak.

 

An object went out of the water at about 1 mile of the ship, flew almost straight up, then made a turn and circles the ship 2 or 3 times, and flew away and disapeared. The flashes of light were seen where it disappeared.

 

link source; http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45.htm

 

 

 

 

This case, two years before the press termed the expression "Flying saucer", seemed interesting and I have compiled some more information here.

 

 

Very strange case here i feel, two years BEFORE the press gave the term "Flying saucer" to the public is revealing.There are cases of underwater submerged unidentified objects or USO"S for short that are not really in the forefront as the UFO"s or sky objects are but are just as important i feel.The above is just one of many cases recorded and witnessed by various military"s across the world.There are hundreds of declassified documents containing statements from military witnesses to these submerged objects just as there is military witnesses to UFOs.ML.

 

some useful links;

"Passport to Magonia", by Jacques Vall?, page 190, 1969.http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45.htm#magonia

Short summary by the NICAP.http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45.htm#doc

Case summary by the NICAP.http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45nicap.htm#doc

Case in "Invisible Residents" by Yvan

References.http://ufologie.net/htm/delarof45.htm#ref

[Bigsmak]

Well said ML, if people dont like what you post then they should take note of the thread and avoid it. There are plenty people who do read your thread.

 

 

Well said.. I like MLs posts, even the more bonkers ones...

 

My View

 

I am 100% convinced that there is life out there

 

I am 95% convinced that at this moment in time there are advanced civilisations out there, There might have been in the past, and maybe in the future.. But space is big and time is long.. So maybe they have disappeared, you never know.

 

I am about 30-50% convinced that another civilisation has successfully colonised another planet - Which is the only way you can ensure the survival of a species (and I mean other planets out with your own solar system)

 

I am a great believer that our understanding of Physics and the laws that forbid FTL travel are wrong and that one day we will re-write them.

 

I am about 99% sure that no alien species has ever come to earth to visit us. maybe 99.999999%... but something only has to happen once for it to have happened.

 

I would love a UFO to land in St Andrews sq, just to pee of the USA.. yup, they came to Scotland first baby!

[maroonlegions]

Unidentified Submerged Objects or Underwater-UFOs or UFOs leaving water or entering water are an underreported phenomenon.

Following on from my last post here is further information on a yearly based case history of USO.Not a bad wee read if your bored on a Sunday evening.

 

link; http://waterufo.net/list.htm

This Page, ?List of Sightings,? Is Dedicated to the Memory of:

J. Allen Hynek

and his greatly appreciated offspring

THE J. ALLEN HYNEK CENTER FOR UFO STUDIES (CUFOS)

Whose inspiration spawned the continuing search for an answer to the UFO phenomenon. O

Mailing Address: The J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies

Post Office Box 31335

Chicago, IL 60631

http://www.cufos.org/

 

LIST OF WATER-RELATED SIGHTINGS ;

 

After selecting the date group you are interested in (e.g.?1067-1946? or ?Master List?), a list for that group will appear.

 

 

[ 1067-1946 ]http://www.waterufo.net/nodate.php?date=1067_1946

 

[ 1947-1959 ] http://www.waterufo.net/nodate.php?date=1947_1959

 

[ 1960-1965 ]http://www.waterufo.net/nodate.php?date=1960_1965

 

[ 1966-1972 ] http://www.waterufo.net/nodate.php?date=1966_1972

 

[ 1973-1979 ]http://www.waterufo.net/nodate.php?date=1973_1979

 

[ 1980-1999 ] http://www.waterufo.net/nodate.php?date=1980_1999

 

[ 2000- 2009 ] [ Undated ] http://www.waterufo.net/undated.php'>http://www.waterufo.net/undated.php

 

date=2000_2009 http://www.waterufo.net/undated.php

 

[ THE MASTER LIST http://www.waterufo.net/all.php

[Guest GhostHunter]

ML - I know Greenwald JR - PM me if you want info...

 

He takes it to the next levet in searching for the Truth.

 

PS - not sure if you posted it here or on another thread, but the "Fallen Angel" vid has been proved to be fake