duckandcover Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? Due to security issues within a call centre environment, it is not allowed. If you work for a bank, then report it to your superior, as I know we have a lot of Asian and Polish workers who, for security reasons, must speak English when in the building. Its to do with security and information held on customers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 i wouldnt necessarily say its ignorant if you're not part of the 'group', however i remember at uni we were doing group work, there was 6 of us in the group and 3 of them were asian, and all of a sudden they just started talking to each other in their own language. I'd say thats pretty rude and ignorant personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? I don't know if ignorance is the right word but depending on the situation it could be construed as rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 What are you doing on Kickback when you're working in a Call Centre ? :whistles: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams bird Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Thats why we get kept on the phone listening to rotton music.They are all on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? RBS or HBoS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmiyaRomanova Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 oh, the irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 oh, the irony... Indeed... Was wondering if the OP and the guy who started the "dilusional" thread on the Terrace were maybe another Irvine Jambo effort (especially with the mention of working in a bank call centre...) but at least IJ/CraigWoSH/Slimboyfat could spell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Whittaker's Tache Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? It's ignorance btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Is it ignorant speaking english when in spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJoker98 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Imagine speaking in their own language! PAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Is it ignorant speaking english when in spain? If you lived/worked there then I would say 100% ignorant. On a holiday, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Why? If your in a country speaking to others who speak your language then I dont see the problem It would be very different in a working environment with other non language speakers involved but as long as it wasnt whilst dealing with a work related issue I fail to see how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Is it ignorant speaking english when in spain? In a Spanish speaking work place, in front of non-english speakers, I think it would be rude. I wouldn't dream of speaking Spanish at work here in an english speaking work place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 In a Spanish speaking work place, in front of non-english speakers, I think it would be rude. I wouldn't dream of speaking Spanish at work here in an english speaking work place. Why not? If you were on a break with other spaniards why in hell wouldnt you speak your native language if you preferred? Or is it the OP's right to listen in? As for andy's comment I dont know which bank he works for but that policy is propostourous, are they trying to say speaking in their own language is dangerous they are basically saying foreigners are conmen:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Why not? If you were on a break with other spaniards why in hell wouldnt you speak your native language if you preferred? Or is it the OP's right to listen in? As for andy's comment I dont know which bank he works for but that policy is propostourous, are they trying to say speaking in their own language is dangerous they are basically saying foreigners are conmen:confused: I just think it's rude to speak in front of colleagues in a language that they cannot understand. It's a bit like whispering which is generally accepted as rude in such circumstances. I agree that if they were on a break I wouldn't have a problem with it - I don't think this is what the OP is describing though. as for the policy Andy mentioned - nothing to do with presuming foreigners are conmen - it's just that the use of confidential information cannot be monitored if the people doing the monitoring can't understand the language. seems sensible enough to me. It's a question of language not nationality so it says nothing about foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 If the OP is standing in a group with them and talking to them and then they all shifted to another language while he was still in the midst of conversation with them then certainly. Standing behind him talking to themselves? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Yeah... gotta hate igronance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I just think it's rude to speak in front of colleagues in a language that they cannot understand. It's a bit like whispering which is generally accepted as rude in such circumstances. I agree that if they were on a break I wouldn't have a problem with it - I don't think this is what the OP is describing though. as for the policy Andy mentioned - nothing to do with presuming foreigners are conmen - it's just that the use of confidential information cannot be monitored if the people doing the monitoring can't understand the language. seems sensible enough to me. It's a question of language not nationality so it says nothing about foreigners. Your bang on the money about the monitoring Kenny, however some people want to see an issue for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? Yes. How igronant of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Your bang on the money about the monitoring Kenny, however some people want to see an issue for the sake of it. Its all very fair having it on the phones, email, official communication etc but having such a policy for staff speaking to each other outwith their roles verges on racism imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jack D and coke Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? Absolutely freaks me out that. They do themselves no favours by doing that. Most people are suspicious of them anyway now and to do that just makes matters worse. I used to work for 2 guys who came from the hebrides and now and again they would start talking gaelic and it done my head in. IMO the only reason they're doin it is so you don't know what they're saying. I would report it if i were you mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckandcover Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 RBS or HBoS? Its no actuallly a bank call centre, its virgin media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I currently work in a call centre at South Gyle. There are a few Asian people who work beside, without being racist whatsoever there are four Asain men currently speaking behind me speaking in there own language. Am I talking out of turn or is this not the height of igronance? Were you speaking to them or part of the group and they changed to speak there 1st language and ignored you,if thats whats happened then yes i would say thats rude,but if your not part of there group then imo they can speak to each other in klingon if they wish. If you want to find out if they are disrespecting you start a conversation with one or all of them and then see if they then ignore you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscomcpie Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Its no actuallly a bank call centre, its virgin media. I was getting really fed up with foreign people who I could barely understand and could barely understand me when I called Virgin Media. One time I was losing my rag with this one person who I was having to repeat things to several times so I asked him "What part of India are you actually in mate?" His reply....................... "Bellshill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmiyaRomanova Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Something to consider for the OP... Have you ever spent long periods of time (months/years) speaking a language that's not your native tongue? Or living somewhere that's not the country of your birth/youth? With the best will in the world in terms of integration etc..., it can be a real relief to be able to occasionally relax and express yourself in your own language with people who come from the same or similar cultural backgrounds. Wherever that opportunity arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckandcover Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Absolutely freaks me out that. They do themselves no favours by doing that. Most people are suspicious of them anyway now and to do that just makes matters worse. I used to work for 2 guys who came from the hebrides and now and again they would start talking gaelic and it done my head in. IMO the only reason they're doin it is so you don't know what they're saying. I would report it if i were you mate. Yea cheers mate, they have the ability to speak the language of everyone else in the place, yet decide to speak a language that not everyone understands, (institutional racism ?) but it does certainly make one paranoid that they could be speaking about myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckandcover Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 I was getting really fed up with foreign people who I could barely understand and could barely understand me when I called Virgin Media. One time I was losing my rag with this one person who I was having to repeat things to several times so I asked him "What part of India are you actually in mate?" His reply....................... "Bellshill" Haha thats classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Absolutely freaks me out that. They do themselves no favours by doing that. Most people are suspicious of them anyway now and to do that just makes matters worse. I used to work for 2 guys who came from the hebrides and now and again they would start talking gaelic and it done my head in. IMO the only reason they're doin it is so you don't know what they're saying. I would report it if i were you mate. Those Wee Free fundamentalists scare the bejesus oot of me too. Bigger threat than Al-Qaeda if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yea cheers mate, they have the ability to speak the language of everyone else in the place, yet decide to speak a language that not everyone understands, (institutional racism ?) but it does certainly make one paranoid that they could be speaking about myself. Before you get an ounce of sympathy you're going to have to clarify whether they were actually excluding you from the conversation, or whether you were just annoyed you couldn't understand what you were over hearing. Actively cutting you out of the conversation = rude Chatting amongst themselves = get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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