Ryan Gosling Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sorry, last thread was a bit ambiguous. If it was a choice between McGhee and Frail, who would you rather have as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 McGhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mark Mcghee. Buffalo Bill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 McGhee Take it you're over your man flu This one's a no brainer really. I'd take anyone just now with some British experience to steady the ship. Frail has done ok, hats off to him, but he's not the long term solution IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Take it you're over your man flu This one's a no brainer really. I'd take anyone just now with some British experience to steady the ship. Frail has done ok, hats off to him, but he's not the long term solution IMO. You'd have thought so - but someone has managed to operate a computer, without brain, to vote Frail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi_1983 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I would take Mr Magoo ahead of Frail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Take it you're over your man flu This one's a no brainer really. I'd take anyone just now with some British experience to steady the ship. Frail has done ok, hats off to him, but he's not the long term solution IMO. Last day of man flu, Andy. Back to the grind tomorrow. Still, nice two day week. This could be the most one way poll ever on Kickback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I don't see any reason why we should restrict ourselves to choosing between McGhee and Frail. There are plenty managers out there to choose from. Appointing Frail would mean that the Jan 1st statement was just more lies. So, McGhee is the only viable option of the two. But I don't think we should restrict ourselves like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 McGhee simply for the fact that between the two, he is the one with the experience and required qualifications. I would however, like to see a role for Frail in any new set up, given the work he has put in behind the scenes for the club. I also agree with Jamborobbo that we should not be restricting ourselves to just that choice, Radomir Antic would certainly be one that would interest me as an appointment. It shouldn't be forgotten that McGhee was very much low on managerial stock when he took the Motherwell job, he was apparently on the verge of accepting the Bohemians job in the Irish Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Drago Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mghee - more chance of Malofeev coming back though if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Can't decide. Looking at McGhee's 17 years in management as opposed to his first 17 games in charge of Motherwell makes it too close to call to be honest. I think I want someone better than them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 1974 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I don't see any reason why we should restrict ourselves to choosing between McGhee and Frail. There are plenty managers out there to choose from. Appointing Frail would mean that the Jan 1st statement was just more lies. So, McGhee is the only viable option of the two. But I don't think we should restrict ourselves like that. I'm thinking it's just for the purpose of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I'm thinking it's just for the purpose of this thread. Fair enough, seems a bit pointless then. Unless we're trying to big up McGhee or slag off Frail. It's like saying who would you rather have in goals. Kurskis or a real goalkeeper. Who would we rather have at RB. Robbie Neilson or a 6ft Christmas Tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 This one is a no brainer - sadly (for him) Stevie Frail doesn't have the qualifications / experience or track record in the transfer market. For what it is worth, McGhee has more exposure to this and has proven to be a good motivator with nae cash to spend. I think Frail can one day make it and right now can be the continuity man that keeps things ticking over (like John McGlyn was) - if he's still here after the "next" manager leaves (or is binned), Frail may get his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest casper Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 St Johnstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Frail has stopped the rot and brought a bit of stability to the team line up, the team seems to have a bit more spirit and discipline has improved since he took charge. He deserves credit for what he has done but I don't think he is the long term answer. McGhee would be a better choice than Frail IMO but I wouldn't be too dissapointed if someone else got the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhjambo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Levein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Is it Mark or Debbie we are talking about ?? Either way I'll go with McGhee (McGee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Levein. Agreed. Jefferies over Frail, McGhee over Jefferies, Davies over McGhee, Levein over Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackaysCentreSpot Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Neither for me. Frail not good enough and McGhee has done good so far with Well but would have to show he can consistantly do it before I gave him the job. And since we do not have the time to wait about for him to prove this then its a no for him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Take it you're over your man flu This one's a no brainer really. I'd take anyone just now with some British experience to steady the ship. Frail has done ok, hats off to him, but he's not the long term solution IMO. Yeah agree with all of that except for the part in bold. I don't think it is a neccessity. If we were to attract a foreigner with experience and a good track record then I would be happy. Foreign managers have not tended to work in the SPL. But if a certain type of manager of a certain calibre was to crop up then I would go for him before McGhee or any other SPL manager. I think we need someone coming outwith the SPL. Someone with different ideas and a different way of thinking. EDIT: Although I think I could be being picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Yeah agree with all of that except for the part in bold. I don't think it is a neccessity. If we were to attract a foreigner with experience and a good track record then I would be happy. Foreign managers have not tended to work in the SPL. But if a certain type of manager of a certain calibre was to crop up then I would go for him before McGhee or any other SPL manager. I think we need someone coming outwith the SPL. Someone with different ideas and a different way of thinking. EDIT: Although I think I could be being picky. I see where you're coming from mate, but with our board, I think it is imperitive that we appoint a manager with British management experience. Needs to be someone strong who we give our full support to. Vlad wont get away with appointing another Burley, then sacking him when he wants. The fans wont stand for it a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebles jambo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 as i said on sunday, frails not got it, so it's mcgee for moi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I see where you're coming from mate, but with our board, I think it is imperitive that we appoint a manager with British management experience. Needs to be someone strong who we give our full support to. Vlad wont get away with appointing another Burley, then sacking him when he wants. The fans wont stand for it a second time. Sorry mate still disagree. I see where you are coming from. Someone that knows the British game and knows how it works. But I don't think it has to neccessarly be a British manager. I just think the person has to be a strong character, a bit of passion, a half decent track record and someone who will commmand respect from all. He may not know many players at the club or others which I think is a good thing but he has scouts and Shaggy who know of players. But he will have a greater knowledge of players from abroad who are probably availbe at a cheaper price (Wage wise) than those of the same quality in Britain. If he has done a job abroad at a good club then I can't see why he would not be able to do a same type of job with a Scottish club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sorry mate still disagree. I see where you are coming from. Someone that knows the British game and knows how it works. But I don't think it has to neccessarly be a British manager. I just think the person has to be a strong character, a bit of passion, a half decent track record and someone who will commmand respect from all. He may not know many players at the club or others which I think is a good thing but he has scouts and Shaggy who know of players. But he will have a greater knowledge of players from abroad who are probably availbe at a cheaper price (Wage wise) than those of the same quality in Britain. If he has done a job abroad at a good club then I can't see why he would not be able to do a same type of job with a Scottish club. Never said he had to be British mate, just that he's got experience of the British game. Would have that Gullit felly, he seems quite handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Never said he had to be British mate, just that he's got experience of the British game. Would have that Gullit felly, he seems quite handy. He is in a Greggs in Los Angeles I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Seeger Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Am I the only one who is reasonably happy with Frail in charge. The players respect him the side has started playing slightly better. I know we've been knocked out of the cups but things won't change overnight. For the first time in over a year i see progress and I'm happy to let it be untill the summer and see how we get on. I vote Frail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Seeger Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 as i said on sunday, frails not got it, so it's mcgee for moi What makes you think he doesn't have it? Thats not a dig would just like to know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I really don't think McGhee is as good as some on here make out. He has won a lower league division in England I think and that's about it. Fair enough he has Motherwell playing well but they were absolutely horrific under Malpas so the only way was up. Saying that, I want Frail nowhere near the managers office. None of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboLad Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 McGhee over frail anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I really don't think McGhee is as good as some on here make out. He has won a lower league division in England I think and that's about it. Fair enough he has Motherwell playing well but they were absolutely horrific under Malpas so the only way was up. Saying that, I want Frail nowhere near the managers office. None of them. If we get someone better than McGhee then I'll be delighted. Levein is the stand out for me but I think he's committed to Dundee Utd and wont leave whilst Eddie Thomson is still around. Dont fancy JJ and Davies is about on a par with McGhee. Havent seen anyone higher profile nthan those 4 linked with the job but would be delighted if there was a surprise appointment Of the realistic candidates I prefer Levein, would accept McGhee or Davies, wouldnt want JJ or Frail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 If we get someone better than McGhee then I'll be delighted. Levein is the stand out for me but I think he's committed to Dundee Utd and wont leave whilst Eddie Thomson is still around. Dont fancy JJ and Davies is about on a par with McGhee. Havent seen anyone higher profile nthan those 4 linked with the job but would be delighted if there was a surprise appointment Of the realistic candidates I prefer Levein, would accept McGhee or Davies, wouldnt want JJ or Frail. That's pretty much my opinion as well. Although I rate Davies a bit higher than McGhee. He really did work miracles with Derby and his name is respected down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That's pretty much my opinion as well. Although I rate Davies a bit higher than McGhee. He really did work miracles with Derby and his name is respected down south. There's not that much between them right enough. I just prefer the way McGhee carries himself. Another factor is that BOTH of them would bugger off along the M8 at the drop of a hat if one of those jobs came up and I really think we need to get someone in who will be around (and is capable of surviving the Hearts experience)for at least 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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