Hearts Heritage Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Just counting Scottish Cup, League and League Cup games that were played including the wartime versions of the of the competitions. Thursday will be Derby number 300. Figures are G W D L W% D% L% League 263 112 78 73 42.6% 29.7% 27.8% LC 7 5 0 2 71.0% 0.0% 28.0% SC 29 13 7 9 44.0% 24.0% 31.0% Overall 299 130 85 84 43.5% 28.4% 28.1% By Venue G W D L W% D% L% Neutral 5 3 1 1 60.0% 20.0% 20.0% Hearts 146 69 42 35 46.9% 28.6% 23.8% Hibs 148 58 42 48 39.2% 28.4% 32.4% Detailed breakdown here NB I've got a rogue 'Victory Cup' game included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Just counting Scottish Cup, League and League Cup games that were played including the wartime versions of the of the competitions. Thursday will be Derby number 300. Figures are G W D L W% D% L% League 263 112 78 73 42.6% 29.7% 27.8% LC 7 5 0 2 71.0% 0.0% 28.0% SC 29 13 7 9 44.0% 24.0% 31.0% Overall 299 130 85 84 43.5% 28.4% 28.1% By Venue G W D L W% D% L% Neutral 5 3 1 1 60.0% 20.0% 20.0% Hearts 146 69 42 35 46.9% 28.6% 23.8% Hibs 148 58 42 48 39.2% 28.4% 32.4% Detailed breakdown here NB I've got a rogue 'Victory Cup' game included. You should post that on welovemixu.net, that will finish them off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Forgetting the stats for a moment, let's also take into account that Hibs are the 'flair team' of the two; and are generally more 'cool' to support. Now carry on. Buffalo Bill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 John Robertson played in the most games (55) and is top scorer with 27. The 2 'Walkers' Bobby and Tommy scored 15 in second place along with Gordon Smith. By goal difference 5 3 4 14 3 17 2 34 1 62 0 85 -1 46 -2 24 -3 9 -4 4 -7 1 Hearts have won 34 games by a 3 goal or more margin Hibs have won 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I think you should count uncompetitive games in there too so we can get an 8 goal winning margin in there for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo66 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I think you should count uncompetitive games in there too so we can get an 8 goal winning margin in there for us Uncompetitive games have been included - like the Cup Semi for example:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 There have been very few games that were of true 'National significance' Hibs on the way to winning the Cup 1886-10-23 Hibs 5 Heart of Midlothian 1 Scottish Cup H 7000 Hearts Defeating the Cup Holders 1887-10-22 Hibs 1 Heart of Midlothian 3 Scottish Cup H 8500 Only Cup Final 1896-03-14 Heart of Midlothian 3 Hibs 1 Scottish Cup N 17034 The 'league decider'. Hibs lose and Hearts go onto take the title as both Hibs and Celtic 'blow up' in last few games. 1896-12-05 Heart of Midlothian 1 Hibs 0 Division 1 A 10500 Semi Final win on the way to lifting the Cup 1901-03-23 Hibs 1 Heart of Midlothian 2 Scottish Cup H 18000 17 year old Joe Baker denies Hearts a potential double with all 4. 1958-03-01 Heart of Midlothian 3 Hibs 4 Scottish Cup A 41666 Semi Final win on the way to lifting the Cup 2006-04-02 Heart of Midlothian 4 Hibs 0 Scottish Cup N 43180 Hibs go to Win the League Cup. 2006-11-08 Hibs 1 Heart of Midlothian 0 League Cup H 15825 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 300? Are we ready Spartans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I think the 2 Festival Cup wins should be included in these stats. It is the biggest club competition in Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Uncompetitive games have been included - like the Cup Semi for example:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabyarsebiscuit Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Are London Hearts watching the game anywhere special on Thursday night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Heritage Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Are London Hearts watching the game anywhere special on Thursday night? The 'Sir Alexander Fleming'. I'll be at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffJimmy1875 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered. That fecking Derby record cannot sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 More trophies cannot be countered More fans cannot be countered It's not that we are a big team - just bigger than hibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered. That fecking Derby record cannot sadly Go on then. Considering the fact that The Big Team have won more trophies, and have a bigger support, I'm really looking forward to your 'debate' and 'counter'. Bring it on. I hope for your sake that it won't be a case of dragging up scoreboards, first to wear the green, etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 But what about the floodlights? Wont somebody please think of the floodlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 300 eh? THIS. IS. CSABAAAA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered. That fecking Derby record cannot sadly C'mon then DuffJimmy... ever since you'd posted this, I really have been dying to hear your case, I'm sure it'll amuse a few on here. So, do the right thing and gie us all a laugh - the Arsenal game has died a death, and the telly's not so good tonight either! We could do with some entertainment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered. That fecking Derby record cannot sadly Yeah I agree it is a very poor derby record indeed, I have heard it being said that it is in fact one of the worse inter city derby records in world football, but I could not back that up with any data. However the main point that i did want to raise was: If this record is so bad and cant be debated, how come the Hibs fans (this game is maybe an exception) are so bolshy and confident that they will "beat the yams" prior to just about every derby? ** ** For the record I am never confident before any derby, and especially not when we are strong favourites, been bit on the arse too many times for that shect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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