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Just counting Scottish Cup, League and League Cup games that were played including the wartime versions of the of the competitions. Thursday will be Derby number 300.

 

Figures are

 

G W D L W% D% L%

 

League 263 112 78 73 42.6% 29.7% 27.8%

LC 7 5 0 2 71.0% 0.0% 28.0%

SC 29 13 7 9 44.0% 24.0% 31.0%

Overall 299 130 85 84 43.5% 28.4% 28.1%

 

By Venue

 

G W D L W% D% L%

Neutral 5 3 1 1 60.0% 20.0% 20.0%

Hearts 146 69 42 35 46.9% 28.6% 23.8%

Hibs 148 58 42 48 39.2% 28.4% 32.4%

Detailed breakdown here NB I've got a rogue 'Victory Cup' game included.

 

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Just counting Scottish Cup, League and League Cup games that were played including the wartime versions of the of the competitions. Thursday will be Derby number 300.

 

Figures are

 

G W D L W% D% L%

 

League 263 112 78 73 42.6% 29.7% 27.8%

LC 7 5 0 2 71.0% 0.0% 28.0%

SC 29 13 7 9 44.0% 24.0% 31.0%

Overall 299 130 85 84 43.5% 28.4% 28.1%

 

By Venue

 

G W D L W% D% L%

Neutral 5 3 1 1 60.0% 20.0% 20.0%

Hearts 146 69 42 35 46.9% 28.6% 23.8%

Hibs 148 58 42 48 39.2% 28.4% 32.4%

Detailed breakdown here NB I've got a rogue 'Victory Cup' game included.

 

 

You should post that on welovemixu.net, that will finish them off!

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Buffalo Bill

Forgetting the stats for a moment, let's also take into account that Hibs are the 'flair team' of the two; and are generally more 'cool' to support.

 

 

Now carry on.

 

 

 

Buffalo Bill

 

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Hearts Heritage

John Robertson played in the most games (55) and is top scorer with 27.

 

The 2 'Walkers' Bobby and Tommy scored 15 in second place along with Gordon Smith.

 

By goal difference

 

5 3

4 14

3 17

2 34

1 62

0 85

-1 46

-2 24

-3 9

-4 4

-7 1

 

Hearts have won 34 games by a 3 goal or more margin Hibs have won 14.

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The Old Tolbooth

I think you should count uncompetitive games in there too so we can get an 8 goal winning margin in there for us :D

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I think you should count uncompetitive games in there too so we can get an 8 goal winning margin in there for us :D

 

Uncompetitive games have been included - like the Cup Semi for example:D

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Hearts Heritage

There have been very few games that were of true 'National significance'

 

Hibs on the way to winning the Cup

1886-10-23 Hibs 5 Heart of Midlothian 1 Scottish Cup H 7000

 

Hearts Defeating the Cup Holders

1887-10-22 Hibs 1 Heart of Midlothian 3 Scottish Cup H 8500

 

Only Cup Final

1896-03-14 Heart of Midlothian 3 Hibs 1 Scottish Cup N 17034

 

The 'league decider'. Hibs lose and Hearts go onto take the title as both Hibs and Celtic 'blow up' in last few games.

1896-12-05 Heart of Midlothian 1 Hibs 0 Division 1 A 10500

 

Semi Final win on the way to lifting the Cup

1901-03-23 Hibs 1 Heart of Midlothian 2 Scottish Cup H 18000

 

17 year old Joe Baker denies Hearts a potential double with all 4.

1958-03-01 Heart of Midlothian 3 Hibs 4 Scottish Cup A 41666

 

Semi Final win on the way to lifting the Cup

2006-04-02 Heart of Midlothian 4 Hibs 0 Scottish Cup N 43180

 

Hibs go to Win the League Cup.

2006-11-08 Hibs 1 Heart of Midlothian 0 League Cup H 15825

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Ray Winstone

I think the 2 Festival Cup wins should be included in these stats.

 

It is the biggest club competition in Edinburgh.

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The Old Tolbooth
Uncompetitive games have been included - like the Cup Semi for example:D

 

:laugh:

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boabyarsebiscuit

Are London Hearts watching the game anywhere special on Thursday night?

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Hearts Heritage
Are London Hearts watching the game anywhere special on Thursday night?

 

The 'Sir Alexander Fleming'. I'll be at the game.

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DuffJimmy1875

Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered.

 

That fecking Derby record cannot sadly :sick2:

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kingantti1874

More trophies cannot be countered

More fans cannot be countered

 

 

It's not that we are a big team - just bigger than hibs

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this_is_my_story
Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered.

 

That fecking Derby record cannot sadly :sick2:

 

Go on then. Considering the fact that The Big Team have won more trophies, and have a bigger support, I'm really looking forward to your 'debate' and 'counter'.

 

Bring it on.

 

I hope for your sake that it won't be a case of dragging up scoreboards, first to wear the green, etc etc...

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Chad Sexington

But what about the floodlights?

 

Wont somebody please think of the floodlights?

 

helen_lovejoy_symp.jpg

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this_is_my_story
Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered.

 

That fecking Derby record cannot sadly :sick2:

 

C'mon then DuffJimmy... ever since you'd posted this, I really have been dying to hear your case, I'm sure it'll amuse a few on here.

 

So, do the right thing and gie us all a laugh - the Arsenal game has died a death, and the telly's not so good tonight either! We could do with some entertainment!

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Doesn't matter how you paint it, that's a fecking tragic derby record. All other "Big Team" claims can - IMO - be debated and countered.

That fecking Derby record cannot sadly :sick2:

 

Yeah I agree it is a very poor derby record indeed, I have heard it being said that it is in fact one of the worse inter city derby records in world football, but I could not back that up with any data. However the main point that i did want to raise was: If this record is so bad and cant be debated, how come the Hibs fans (this game is maybe an exception) are so bolshy and confident that they will "beat the yams" prior to just about every derby? **

 

 

 

 

** For the record I am never confident before any derby, and especially not when we are strong favourites, been bit on the arse too many times for that shect.

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