Maroon Mayhem Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Format is very simple. You have the power to clear the squad out. List in three categories and don't just go on ability, think of the money you'd be able to free up. Must Stays Kingston Berra Velicka Pinilla (He will come good - honest) Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Stewart Squad Players to Keep Banks Karapidis Ivaskevicius Zaliukas Cesnauskas Nade Must Go's Goncalves Tall Ivanevaskuis Neilson Beneuisis Kancelskis Kurskis Aguiar Elliot Basso Miko McCann Makela Korabochka Chervenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Nade Karapidas Squad Players to Keep (as backup/subs only - wouldn't shed any tears if they left) Banks Cesnauskas Velicka Stewart Neilson Aguiar McCann Frail Elliot Goncalves Must Go's Pinilla Zaliukas Ivaskevicius Tall Ksanivaskuis Beniuseless Kancelskis Kurskis Basso Miko Makela Korabochka Chervenko Koslovski Tino Lopez Mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Nade Karapidas Cesnauskas Velicka Pinilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 You know this makes sense.... Must Stays Kingston Berra Velicka Pinilla Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Karapidis Squad Players to Keep Banks Cesnauskas Nade Beneuisis (no, really, we may be onto something here, but squad 1st) Frail Must Go's Goncalves Tall Ivanevaskuis Neilson Kancelskis Kurskis Aguiar Elliot Basso Miko McCann Makela Ivaskevicius Zaliukas Stewart Korabochka Chervenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffundo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Velicka Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Cesnauskas Nade Goncalves Tall Squad Players to Keep Banks Karapidis Zaliukas Cesnauskas Nade Stewart Aguiar Must Go's Ivanevaskuis Neilson Beneuisis Kancelskis Kurskis Elliot Basso Miko McCann Makela Pinilla (He will come good - honest) No, he will not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Banks - Goalie Coach Berra Jonsson Ruben Kingston Driver Velicka Possible Stays Wallace Karapidis Chesney Stewart Nade Must Goes Basso Kurkis Neilson Goncalves Tall Zaliukas Kanchelskis Miko No.28 Aguiar Audry McCann Pinilla Makela Bennyuseless Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyanide_cid Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Tall Karapidis Velicka - (although if we can get ?4 million...snap their hands off!!!) Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Pinilla Squad Players to Keep Banks Stewart Cesnauskas Nade Aguiar Kancelskis Wallace Must Go's Elliot Goncalves - (?2 million in our dreams!!!) Ksanivaskuis Ivaskevicius Zaliukas Neilson Beniuisis Kurskis Basso Miko McCann Makela - going by the looks of it Mole Korobocha Chervenko Mann Frail - much like Tommy Burns during the Berti Vogts era, he has become part of the problem...I think he would be better starting afresh in a lower division club...just my opinion of course. It says a lot about how many of the current squad we would bin...but without a decent manager running the team, any changes would be pointless...and just keep us in the same cycle we have been going through for the past couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Velicka Berra Driver Jonsson Ruben Cesnauskus Squad Players to Keep Karipidas Pinilla Aguier Stewart Banks Miko Zalikus Nielson Nade Wallace Goncalves McCann (if only so he can start learning coaching) Must Go's Elliot Ivaskevicius Tall Ksanivaskuis Beniuseless Kancelskis Kurskis Basso Makela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 GET RID (ie hopeless) : Ivaskevicius Neilson Kurskis Beniusis Elliot Makela Mole Basso ON THE BRINK (ie not contributing enough) : Kasnavicius Mikoliunus Kanchelskis Nade Wallace Pinilla Goncalves Zaliukas Stewart Aguair KEEP (ie can build team / squad with) : Banks (goalkeeping coach from Summer) Berra Tall Karipidis Palazuelos Jonsson Kingston Velicka Driver Cesnauskis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must StaysKingston Berra Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Nade Karapidas Squad Players to Keep (as backup/subs only - wouldn't shed any tears if they left) Banks Cesnauskas Velicka Stewart Neilson Aguiar McCann Frail Elliot Goncalves Must Go's Pinilla Zaliukas Ivaskevicius Tall Ksanivaskuis Beniuseless Kancelskis Kurskis Basso Miko Makela Korabochka Chervenko Koslovski Tino Lopez Mann What JR says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunk-Section G Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Why is Tall listed as a "Must Go", the guy is a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Why is Tall listed as a "Must Go", the guy is a great player. I would assume that people think he is paid more than Hearts can afford. One could argue that McCann and Kingston would fall into the same category. A proper manager would soon see through the guys who need to go and find their own level. Frail is about halfway there on this I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Why is Tall listed as a "Must Go", the guy is a great player. IMO, he on a salary that is beyond what we can afford. We could do better for 1/2 his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Why is Tall listed as a "Must Go", the guy is a great player. for my part, cause he's on big money ( we could get just as good for less) and doesn't wanna stay. same with pinilla - big money and never plays. I also think it's important to get a core of players who are commited and have the qualities to take us forward, to build our team around.... I think that Kingston,Berra,Jonsson,Driver,Palazeulos,Nade, Karapidas would be a good core to build on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must stays Kingston Velicka Jonsson Ruben Driver Maybe stay as squad players Banks Chesney (when he can be bothered he's good) Karapidis Berra (with someone alongside him to bring him on) Nade (if he keeps pulling his finger out) Bin the rest! I wanted to add Tall to the squad players list but I feel that at 10K per week he is a luxury that we can afford to do without and possibly bring in 2 or 3 decent players for his wages alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThommoHMFC Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Velicka Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Tall Cesnauskis Squad Players to Keep Banks Ksnavicius Kancelskis Miko Karapidis Ivaskevicius Zaliukas Nade Beniusis Aguiar Must Go's Stewart Goncalves Neilson Kurskis Elliot Basso McCann Makela Pinilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Titor Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Tall Velicka Pinilla (He will come good - honest) Jonsson Driver(very frustrating at times) Palazeulos Stewart(see driver) Banks Cesnauskas Squad Players to Keep Karapidis Kancelskis Zaliukas Makela(more for the fact that when we do play him he is compltely out of position) Miko Berra Ksanavicius Must Go's Goncalves Neilson Beneuisis Nade Kurskis Aguiar Elliot Basso Ivaskevicius McCann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaJT Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays: Banks Berra Kingston Jonsson Ruben Velicka Karipidis Driver Stewart Tall Squad Chesney Nade Neilson Wallace Goncalves Aguiar We're lacking at left back. Jose constantly drifts away from the man he should be covering but Wallace has hardly covered himself in glory in the games he has played this season either. With a decent manager telling him what to do Jose could be a decent player, despite his one-footedness. At the start of the season Stewart was one of our best players. Again with a decent manager he could be great as he obviously has ability. Miko is a good sub player but with the decisions he's always going to get against him I think we'd be better rid of him. Ever since he slid into the linesman against Rangers when he awarded that penalty, refs have been against hearts. That was the turning point IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must stays Kingston Berra Neilson Banks (although see him as back up) karipidis Wallace (think he deserves a shot in midfield) Driver Chesnauskas Stewart (although think he shouldn't be an automatic pick) Ruben Johnson Velicka Nade (Needs more time, has certainly shown talent) Maybes Kancelskis Zaliuskus (although he's running out of time) Pinilla (although I think we all know if fit he's in the above list) Goncalves (If he could position himself better he'd be a player, need to see if he can start doing this) Tall (good enough but as stated depends on his wages) Aguiar Must go Miko (the most important) Audrey (too small, not enough pace) Beniuses Makela (don't think he's had a chance but think he's unlikely to) Elliott Mole Basso Kurskis Number 24 McCann Probably forgot a few though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts_crazy Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must StaysKingston Berra Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Nade Karapidas Squad Players to Keep (as backup/subs only - wouldn't shed any tears if they left) Banks Cesnauskas Velicka Stewart Neilson Aguiar McCann Frail Elliot Goncalves Must Go's Pinilla Zaliukas Ivaskevicius Tall Ksanivaskuis Beniuseless Kancelskis Kurskis Basso Miko Makela Korabochka Chervenko Koslovski Tino Lopez Mann Can I just point out that the fact that our results/performances have improved recently is due in no small measure to the form of Chesny, (who is one of the most gifted players EVER at Tynecastle IMO) and that Velicka is our top scorer - again. I think you have a serious problem with Lithuanian players in our squad given that you would not definately keep any of them and would only keep the aforementioned 2 players because it's better than poking your eyes out with a sharp stick and you'd bin the rest. I think you have issues mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurooba Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I really don't understand why anybody would have Pinilla as a must stay. Please tell me what you've seen in him over such a short period of time. I don't think he'll ever be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Velicka Pinilla Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Goncalves Wallace Nade Chesney Squad Players to Keep Banks Karapidis Stewart - we can do better. Punt if we get a proper attacking midfielder. Zaliukas Must Go's End of season- Ksnavicius Neilson Kancelskis McCann Aguiar - although I could be persuaded he can still do a turn if he returns to form Basso Immediately - Ivaskevicius Miko- sorry Miko you're a marked man and your career is in reverse Kurskis Elliot Miko Makela Korabochka Chervenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Can I just point out that the fact that our results/performances have improved recently is due in no small measure to the form of Chesny, (who is one of the most gifted players EVER at Tynecastle IMO) and that Velicka is our top scorer - again. I think you have a serious problem with Lithuanian players in our squad given that you would not definately keep any of them and would only keep the aforementioned 2 players because it's better than poking your eyes out with a sharp stick and you'd bin the rest. I think you have issues mate. As always, my opinion is based on how I rate them as football players. Chesney and Velicka are both half decent, so i'd keep them in the squad. I think we need better moving forward long term though, hence I'd build the team around the core of younger players I mentioned. I think it is those coming out with thinly veiled accusations of racism that have the issues. Always try to keep my cool on here, but you can **** right off with the racism accusations you muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts_crazy Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 As always, my opinion is based on how I rate them as football players. Chesney and Velicka are both half decent, so i'd keep them in the squad. I think we need better moving forward long term though, hence I'd build the team around the core of younger players I mentioned. I think it is those coming out with thinly veiled accusations of racism that have the issues. Always try to keep my cool on here, but you can **** right off with the racism accusations you muppet. I don't remember calling you racist, I just fail to see why you feel that a guy who has been our top scorer both seasons he has been here and the guy who has been a very able depute for Larry Kingston since he's come back into the team only merit a place as 'squad players' who you wouldn't give a flying feck if they sodded off that's all. I agree with most of your other choices though, except Tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sked21 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Ibrahim Tall Eggert Jonsson Ruben Palazeulos Laryea Kingston Devidas Cesnauskis/Andrew Driver - I would only have one of them as a must stay. Chesney is the better player but Driver is younger. Andrius Velicka Back-ups Christophe Berra Jose Goncalves Bruno Aguiar/Micahel Stewart Devidas Cesnauskis/Andrew Driver Christian Nade Mauricio Pinilla - Would be a must stay but well he hasn't played. If he does not get a proper pre-season then I would let him go. Bin Too big a list but I would start with Calum Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Keep Banks (goalkeeping coach) Neilson (rb) Karapidas (cb) Berra (cb) Wallace (lb) Cesnauskas (rw) Kingston (cm) Stewart (cm) Driver (lw) Velicka (cf) Nade (cf) Basso (gk/second choice once we sign a new keeper... he wasn't THAT bad!) Jonsson (dm/cover) Palazeulos (cm/cover) Aguiar (cm/cover) Tall (cb/rb utility player) Miko (lw/rw cover) Makela (cf cover... play him and see!) McCann (coaching role) Frail (coaching role) Sell/Loan Elliot (loan?) Goncalves (sell... never a 2 million pound player and wants to go) Pinilla (waste of space and money... sell now) Zaliukas (showed promise, but not quite enough) Ivaskevicius (showed promise, but not quite enough) Ksanivaskuis (showed promise, but not quite enough) Beniusis (showed a little promise against dons , but not quite enough) Kancelskis (sell) Kurskis (sell) Korabochka (useless) Angel (he has already gone!!!) IMO we have decent players and with 1 or 2 quality additions and a good manager the team will gel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBjambo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Also want to point out that although I have opted to keep Bruno, Ruben and Eggert on as squad players... it is generally because I am certain Larry will be gone by the end of the season. His loss will be filled immediately by Ruben with Jonsonn and Agiuar pushing him and Stewart for a starting berth. Stewart i'd like to see as captain as he is the best one for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must StaysKingston Velicka Berra Driver Jonsson Ruben Cesnauskus Squad Players to Keep Karipidas Pinilla Aguier Stewart Banks Miko Zalikus Nielson Nade Wallace Goncalves McCann (if only so he can start learning coaching) Must Go's Elliot Ivaskevicius Tall Ksanivaskuis Beniuseless Kancelskis Kurskis Basso Makela Switch Tall and terry over and youre onto something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I don't remember calling you racist Well feel free to explain what else you were meaning by I think you have a serious problem with Lithuanian players in our squad given that you would not definately keep any of them and would only keep the aforementioned 2 players because it's better than poking your eyes out with a sharp stick and you'd bin the rest. I think you have issues mate. If you weren't saying I was downgrading these players because of their nationality' date=' then I take it back. , I just fail to see why you feel that a guy who has been our top scorer both seasons he has been here and the guy who has been a very able depute for Larry Kingston since he's come back into the team only merit a place as 'squad players' who you wouldn't give a flying feck if they sodded off that's all. I agree with most of your other choices though, except Tall. You've almost answered your own question re Chesney. "A very able deputy" to Larry. i.e. a squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BervieJambo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 The only players to ditch are the ones who have contributed nothing at all due to not playing ie Makela, Pinilla, Pospisil (gone) & Pilibaitis (gone) and ones who are nearing the end of their contract who want to go ie Tall. I would accept a reasonable cash bid for any of the rest. We need a striker & right-sided defender, but apart from that we have a squad, that with the right coaching, IMHO, can achieve success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Benny must stay!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 You know this makes sense.... Must Stays Beneuisis (no, really, we may be onto something here, but squad 1st) :Hearts Man spotrun: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny11 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 MUST STAY Banks Berra Wallace Karapidis Kingston Jonsson Driver Ruben Cesnauskis Velicka Nade SQUAD PLAYERS Basso Neilson Kanchelskis Stewart Bruno Mole MUST GO Kurskis Zaliukas Goncalves Tall (get some money before his deal expires) Ksnavicius Ivaskevicius Mikoliunas McCann Beniusis Pinilla Elliot Makela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunny11 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Funny how my list is 29 players (may have missed a couple) but the tabloids and idiots like calderwood claim we have a choice of 60 players!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must stay Vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 On the basis that I believe we need a goalkeeper, two new full backs, two wide men and two strikers to add to the core I have split the players as follows - The core going forward Berra Tall Karipidis Kingston Jonsson Palazeulos Stewart Squad Players Banks Cesnauskis Nade Velicka Driver Wallace Aguiar Those who can leave Goncalves (think there is something there, but not irreplaceable) Ksanavicius Neilson Beniusis Kancelskis Kurskis Elliot Basso Mikoliunas McCann Makela Pinilla Ivaskevicius Zaliukas Mole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboy81 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must stay Banks Berra Jonsson Ruben Kingston Driver Velicka Probably keep Cesnauskis Goncalves That is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I hope you don't mind DK, but I have made it a two category thing. With the exception of the huge clubs (Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Man Utd) I honestly do not think there is one player that any club can say is a "must keep". If we got a good offer for ANY of our players, I would accept. I have not mourned the loss of a player for any reason other than him leaving for less than market value. So, I don't have a "must keep" list. All of the players on the "players to keep" list are players that I would not shed until we have purchased better options. ALL of them could be bettered within our budget IMO. If one of our younger talents were to go, it would have to be a seriously sizeable fee, similarly for our "bigger players" like Berra and Kingston. Players to keep Kingston Berra Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Nade Karipidis Cesnauskis Velicka Wallace Tall* Pinilla* Stewart Banks Goncalves This list is a personal choice about players that are far away from the level we want to challenge the Glasgow two. Thirteen players to leave clearing the palate for Lippi to bring in the new players. Must Go's Zaliukas Ivaskevicius Ksanavicius Beniusis Kancelskis Kurskis Basso Mikoliunas Makela Neilson Elliot McCann Aguiar Korobochka Chervenkov Koslovski Lopez Copied the bulk of this from JR, who is "Tino" JR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Copied the bulk of this from JR, who is "Tino" JR? the translator boy who stands in the dugout passing instructions from Vlad to Frail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 the translator boy who stands in the dugout passing instructions from Vlad to Frail. Ah, his full name is something like Konstantin Konstantintonov or something like that. He can go too. Just noticed, I forgot to explain Tall and Pinilla being asterisked. If they are not definitely away I would like to see them on the park for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ah, his full name is something like Konstantin Konstantintonov or something like that. He can go too. Just noticed, I forgot to explain Tall and Pinilla being asterisked. If they are not definitely away I would like to see them on the park for Hearts. Aye, I wouldnae really argue with that. But it's one or the other for me. If they ain't gonna play, no point continuing to pay them big wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Go: After 11/12 years it's time for Neilson to move on, time for new blood. All the rest can fight for their place under the manager / head coach and be kept, released or sold accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Jambo Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Must Stays Kingston Berra Velicka Jonsson Driver Palazeulos Stewart Cesnauskas Banks Squad Players to Keep Karapidis Aguiar Neilson Nade Pinilla Goncalves Must Go's Tall (Get in money vefore deal expires) Ivanevaskuis Beneuisis Kancelskis Kurskis Elliot Basso Miko McCann Makela Ivaskevicius Zaliukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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