Angus Gunn Scotland No 1?

[Robbo-Jambo]

12 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said:

People need to take the Hearts tinted specs off. Gordon is 43, barely played the last year and has had significant spells out with injury this season.

 

I'd love him to get the nod and I doubt he'd let us down, but it's hardly some conspiracy if a guy 13 years younger plays. The goalie situation is a mess whichever way you turn.

 

Plenty on here were writing Gordon off on a regular basis when he was actually playing for us in his last season as no.1.

Gordon is the best keeper out of the three by a considerable distance even at 43.

[Bob Loblaw]

23 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Gordon is the best keeper out of the three by a considerable distance even at 43.

He definitely was. And as I've said, I'd start him, but there were plenty on here who thought he was on the wane in his last full season, there's surely a decent risk he's not as sharp at this age with little football and a few more injuries.

 

There's risk attached to all of them. Kelly shouldn't even be there.

[Bob Loblaw]

1 hour ago, soonbe110 said:

Gunn has played virtually no first team foot ball for over a year.   Kelly doesn’t even have a club atm.   Gordon is the obvious choice to start. 

Neither had Gordon, he was backup or injured pretty much the whole season. Gunn had more competitive appearances than Gordon last season as he started the Scotland campaign.

 

I'm going to bow out of this now anyway, I've already said I'd pick Gordon, but if he doesn't start it's nowhere near the same cut and dry of it being out of order like the last two majors. The situation is different. 

[Robbo-Jambo]

5 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

He definitely was. And as I've said, I'd start him, but there were plenty on here who thought he was on the wane in his last full season, there's surely a decent risk he's not as sharp at this age with little football and a few more injuries.

 

There's risk attached to all of them. Kelly shouldn't even be there.

Yip, Kelly is only there because there is no one else 😅 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

43 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

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30 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

Only shows Hearts games on his profile because the site knows Hearts is my Team, bit bizarre if they have the data

But he played when We pumped them 3-0 on 25th April at Tynecastle

https://www.transfermarkt.us/steve-clarke/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/107084/saison/1985

 

Sheesh, TM Guilty of wrong data, we played the midden and beat them 3-0 on 25th of March

 

London Hearts informed that the midden were at tannadice the week before and arab archive confirms this: 👇

 

 

So, pr1ck steve knew, so did money

[JamboGraham]

He wore 21 on Saturday and played the majority of the game.

[waterboy11]

13 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said:

People need to take the Hearts tinted specs off. Gordon is 43, barely played the last year and has had significant spells out with injury this season.

 

I'd love him to get the nod and I doubt he'd let us down, but it's hardly some conspiracy if a guy 13 years younger plays. The goalie situation is a mess whichever way you turn.

 

Plenty on here were writing Gordon off on a regular basis when he was actually playing for us in his last season as no.1.

Age is irrelevant in this. He's played more games than Gunn this season and Kelly.

 

He is also, by far and away a much, much better keeper than them both, even if he is much older. 

[N Lincs Jambo]

1 hour ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

Sheesh, TM Guilty of wrong data, we played the midden and beat them 3-0 on 25th of March

 

London Hearts informed that the midden were at tannadice the week before and arab archive confirms this: 👇

 

 

So, pr1ck steve knew, so did money

 

Stories I heard at the time in those halcyon non internet days were that Alex Miller knew some of his players wouldn't be trying a leg and phoned Alex McDonald, his old Rangers team mate, to let him know in advance not to expect anything from St Mirren.

 

I had always heard that Campbell Money refused to play in a game where he knew that some of his team mates would not be trying. Steve Clarke as a Killie fan would probably have been more aligned with Money than with dug-eyes McGarvey. But again, all speculation and hearsay from the time. I doubt, unless we hear a deathbed confession, we'll ever get the full truth about it.

[Ribble]

2 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Gordon is the best keeper out of the three by a considerable distance even at 43.

 

Craig Gordon could have retired after leaving Sunderland and would still be a better option than Gunn or Kelly for this world cup.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

1 hour ago, N Lincs Jambo said:

Stories I heard at the time in those halcyon non internet days were that Alex Miller knew some of his players wouldn't be trying a leg and phoned Alex McDonald, his old Rangers team mate, to let him know in advance not to expect anything from St Mirren.

 

I had always heard that Campbell Money refused to play in a game where he knew that some of his team mates would not be trying. Steve Clarke as a Killie fan would probably have been more aligned with Money than with dug-eyes McGarvey. But again, all speculation and hearsay from the time. I doubt, unless we hear a deathbed confession, we'll ever get the full truth about it.

 

A confession would be box office

 

A confession at this precise juncture, like, Tomorrow, given recent events, would be very fitting

 

But aye, any time would be good

[PortyJambo]

3 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Yip, Kelly is only there because there is no one else 😅 

I remember talk that Clarke should be approaching the likes of Chris Brady of Chicago Fire (US born, but Scottish descent), or others like that, to see if they were interested in playing for Scotland. In other words, scour the world for a keeper, any keeper, that might improve the woeful depth we have at the position!

 

Of course, don't know if that happened, and he's now going to the World Cup as part of the USA squad.

 

Edit - from Googling it, seems he was approached but was committed to playing for USA

Edited June 3 by PortyJambo

[Mikey1874]

13 hours ago, Mirror said:

Let's not kid ourselves, look at what Clarke did at the last 2 tournaments.

 

Gunn will play all 3 matches probably with Soutar and Hanley in defence.

 

There will be no explanation needed when we finish bottom of the group

 

Craig in the centre though

 

 

[Diadora Van Basten]

11 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Craig in the centre though

 

 

A good sign also glad he isn’t wearing green.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

What a picture, FS, going to get leathered

 

Those seats are a sight for sore eyes

[tartofmidlothian]

Clarke is going to go with Gunn, isn't he? And how many weeks has it been since Gordon pulled off Scottish football's save of the decade?

[Babertonhearts]

21 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said:

Clarke is going to go with Gunn, isn't he? And how many weeks has it been since Gordon pulled off Scottish football's save of the decade?

Stop being a KB daftie, Gunn deserves to be No1.

[HMFC 86]

4 hours ago, Babertonhearts said:

Stop being a KB daftie, Gunn deserves to be No1.

“KB daftie” for suggesting Gordon should be playing? FS

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Hope so. I want the SFA XI to lose every game and Gunn is utter pony.

[TOJ 13]

2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Hope so. I want the SFA XI to lose every game and Gunn is utter pony.

Totally get where you're coming from. Those corrupt *******s SPFL/SFA have ruined the world cup for me. I have no inclination or enthusiasm to support this team based on what happened to us last season. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

9 minutes ago, TOJ 13 said:

Totally get where you're coming from. Those corrupt *******s SPFL/SFA have ruined the world cup for me. I have no inclination or enthusiasm to support this team based on what happened to us last season. 

Will you want Hearts to lose when they represent the SFA in the Champions League?

[bloomtime]

3rd choice forest keeper and clarkes fav. Wont be expecting much change from dinosaur same players same mistakes same crap although spamhead might start now hes a hun although id expect adams or dykes 1 up v morocco and brazil. How did bolivia beat brazil they were rank.

Edited Sunday at 06:56 by bloomtime

[Shaggy2]

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

Will you want Hearts to lose when they represent the SFA in the Champions League?

Poor argument, Fozzie. Have you ever given a flying funk or a single second’s thought about how our European performance affect the SFA? 
We beat Rosenborg my first thought was definitely not, “that’s put Scottish football on the map tonight, I’m so happy for Ian the lying cant Maxwell.”

 

I’m a massive Scotland fan but for this tournament and this tournament only, I’d be quite happy for the players and association to be utterly embarrassed in the next three games. No referees there is already an embarrassment but they seem unphased by that so next best thing is for them to look like absolute amateurs after giving Clarke a 4 year deal PRIOR to a tournament. 

Edited Sunday at 07:32 by Shaggy2

[Gundermann]

8 hours ago, Babertonhearts said:

Stop being a KB daftie, Gunn deserves to be No1.

 

Poppadom Wrists had a decent game last night though against the formidable firepower of Bolivia. 

[Peter up the Hill]

On 02/06/2026 at 20:16, Bob Loblaw said:

Gunn played 5 times for Scotland in the last season and once for Forest. 

 

So, no.

So Gordon played more games.  Get an adult to count them up for you. 3 is more than 1.

[Bob Loblaw]

50 minutes ago, Peter up the Hill said:

So Gordon played more games.  Get an adult to count them up for you. 3 is more than 1.

Silly me, I thought Scotland world cup qualifiers were competitive games. My mistake.

[HeartsandonlyHearts]

17 hours ago, Babertonhearts said:

Stop being a KB daftie, Gunn deserves to be No1.

Based on……?

His past history with Scotland?

His minutes played this season?

His overwhelming goal keeping skills?

Yeah he deserves to be #1.

 

[Spellczech]

22 hours ago, Babertonhearts said:

Stop being a KB daftie, Gunn deserves to be No1.

Care to back this statement up, with a justification, anything at all?

[Wee Hamish McDonald]

On 02/06/2026 at 20:13, CM Funk said:

Gunn too has played next to **** all all season though. And Gordon done more than enough in the qualifying campaign and when available for us did a job too. We could’ve looked back at a title winning season thanks to two points he saved against Dundee. But I get your point. My issue is you can lay a few blame for goals at Gunn’s feet at the last Euros so I’m not sure going with him is the best thing.

 

I'd agree with this.

 

Gordon is well preserved and rested and he now has coming in to do a big job at short notice nailed whether it was gor Scotland or Hearts. He's stayed sharp and he fancies the job.

 

Pat Jennings 40 in 1986 is like 46 now. 

[Gulf Jambo]

16 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said:

Silly me, I thought Scotland world cup qualifiers were competitive games. My mistake.

 

45 Minutes of club football this season

 

2 Qualifiers in October

2 Qualifiers in November 

 

Made the bench well less than half Club games for the season

 

In what world is he a better pick than Gordon.

Also far less overall experience.

 

Clarke is throwing Gordon under the bus again, same as he did with the Euro's squad selection 

[Babertonhearts]

14 hours ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said:

Based on……?

His past history with Scotland?

His minutes played this season?

His overwhelming goal keeping skills?

Yeah he deserves to be #1.

 

Based on Gordon being injured recently, probably back training about 4 weeks ago.

[Taffin]

I'd like CG to be the starting keeper and was furious at the Euros when Clark went with Marshall.

 

It's different this time though, there isn't a good/obvious choice so I don't blame Clark for whichever he chooses.

[Bob Loblaw]

1 hour ago, Taffin said:

I'd like CG to be the starting keeper and was furious at the Euros when Clark went with Marshall.

 

It's different this time though, there isn't a good/obvious choice so I don't blame Clark for whichever he chooses.

Yep, same. I've already said I'd pick him and he was harshly treated before. This isn't the same scenario though, this isn't Craig Gordon of 2020 and whoever he chooses has risks.

[Dennis Denuto]

Craig Gordon has been absolutely shafted by Steve Clarke at the last two Euros, if he is not picked for the 1st game he should knock him out then hop on a plane home.

[tartofmidlothian]

6 hours ago, Taffin said:

I'd like CG to be the starting keeper and was furious at the Euros when Clark went with Marshall.

 

It's different this time though, there isn't a good/obvious choice so I don't blame Clark for whichever he chooses.

 

It's a fair point, but even this season's limited evidence for CG edges it for me. He played two and a half games for us, possibly just 45 minutes less than he'll need to play for Clarke, and he pulled off one world class save, two (or one and a half) clean sheets, an unbeaten record and only two goals conceded against our most dangerous opponents by a mile.

 

That seals it for me, even before we start talking about his uncomplaining loyalty to Scotland over the years, bouncing back from not being played in 21 or taken in 24, his standing in the game and within the squad and all the rest.