Should the Heart Of Midlothian board take the corrupt cheating barstewards all the way?

[Yoda]

8 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Not only should they go all in, BUT they must also communicate with the fans better. The silence is telling. First we were told to wait until after the final game, now it will be wait until after the world cup, then it will be wait until the start of next season. This is bollox.

Agreed.  We need to get this kicked-off before the start the CL draws.

[Ex member of the SaS]

2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

At first I took the complete radio silence as a positive that something must be happening in the background. Now I am starting to doubt it. Usually there would be some sort of snippet leaked about pending action but there has been nothing. 

The absolute minimum the club should be doing is telling the GFA we will monitor ALL refereeing decisions next season and compiling a list of dodgy decisions. Any dodgy call against ANY team will be circulated among clubs and used to demand change. Get the cabal out of our game. We MUST demand a clear out and a new fairer system used to appoint officers and CEO.

[Ex member of the SaS]

3 minutes ago, Yoda said:

Agreed.  We need to get this kicked-off before the start the CL draws.

It really is worrying that we the OWNERS are not being allowed to know what is happening to OUR club.

[gordon simpson]

every run in  with those corrupt bassas  ends with us getting shat on even harder by those bigoted blazers  in the SFA

[gordon simpson]

1 hour ago, ...andFulton'sBaggio said:

Absolutely.

 

Gonna have to be ultra savvy in how we go about it, though.

This

[Mollo]

We should absolutely be presenting Collum's conflicting stance on the handball rules between the game earlier in the season (can't mind who it was involved..?) where he states it MUST be CATEGORIC - and the Celtic Motherwell game where he totally ignores 'clear and obvious' and claims a still photo with limited clarity is enough to guess.

 

That is CLEARLY a problem and no way should the head of refs be able to demonstrate that level of ineptitude (or corruption lets be honest). We have a clear platform to raise that if for nothing other than the ridiculously variable guidance on the regs from the man at the top.

 

If we aren't raising this, I'm disgusted to be frank.

[Pasquale for King]

17 minutes ago, Yoda said:

That might be an advantage, as I suspect he'll be wanting this to all go away quietly, so he can enjoy his trip to the WC with his SFA pals.

He’s already there so that’s not happening unless we aren’t going to do anything. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, Mollo said:

We should absolutely be presenting Collum's conflicting stance on the handball rules between the game earlier in the season (can't mind who it was involved..?) where he states it MUST be CATEGORIC - and the Celtic Motherwell game where he totally ignores 'clear and obvious' and claims a still photo with limited clarity is enough to guess.

 

That is CLEARLY a problem and no way should the head of refs be able to demonstrate that level of ineptitude (or corruption lets be honest). We have a clear platform to raise that if for nothing other than the ridiculously variable guidance on the regs from the man at the top.

 

If we aren't raising this, I'm disgusted to be frank.

It was Utd v Hibs at Tannadice, as clear a handball as you’re likely to see. 

[Nookie Bear]

13 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

It really is worrying that we the OWNERS are not being allowed to know what is happening to OUR club.

 

Correct. 

[Mollo]

1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

It was Utd v Hibs at Tannadice, as clear a handball as you’re likely to see. 

That's the one

 

It's a ready made case to ask for sensible answers on. Collum also claims SN did not do enough to get his arm out the way, but ignores the fact the Celtic player jumps up into his oxter AND SN tries to keep his arm close to his body - that's ALL he can do.

 

It's a case that both Rangers and Celtic would take to the beaks every day of the week - and they get places because they cause waves, I am no romantic for Vlad but if we can complain about whats wrong in the game in his reign, we damn well should be be making everything of this case at a time it's cost us the title.

[lost in space]

Is there not an investigation going on - by the SFA/League - taking in these games and the pitch invasions?

Is it possible that Hearts have given their views/evidence to the investigation and are waiting on the outcome of that before commenting.

The club SHOULD  be keeping us informed - even if it is just to say they have given evidence and are waiting on the outcome of that.

 

Meanwhile what are the Police and government doing about the pitch invasions.  Are they waiting for the SFA to change the rules/punishments?

 

It has all gone quiet.  Hearts - and I mean the Board - cant just let this go.

 

[JAYEL]

We just need to prove that the game at Parkhead was not played out to the end of the allotted time

 

I think this will be easiest one to prove

 

You can’t have the clock still ticking whilst you have Celtic staff and fans swarming the pitch

 

The match was abandoned

 

3-0 Hearts

 

🇱🇻🏆🇱🇻

[Taffin]

2 hours ago, selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Now we've got the audio from var/referee from fir park on that Saturday and Wednesday evenings , the pitch invasion which ended the last game at celtic park, players and staff having to get police escorted out the place with players still in kit, auld marty having nice cosy meeting with collum etc etc in my opinion as a fan owned club the fans opinion should be sought so this poll can see what the jkb thoughts are 

 

I feel like yes, but:

 

- all the way to where?

- to achieve what outcome?

- on what basis?

 

We've been shafted but I'm not quite clear on what people think the club are going after. I'm none the wiser after the statements.

 

If it's just to show we're annoyed because we've got nothing then I'm not sure it's really worth it tbh

[Cruyff]

We know they cheated to stop us winning it, however - there has to be sufficient evidence to say that it wasn't just gross incompetence. 

 

And the club will always stay within legal guidance and wouldn't put their neck on the line unless they had something concrete. 

 

I cannae see it I'm afraid. 

 

But look, this will only make us stronger & more determined to beat the system. 

[suds66]

1 hour ago, Hømme said:

Of course we should 

A hundred percent correct.

[Broon187409]

I want the club to pursue every avenue of course, I think the best we could hope for is to put pressure on the governing bodies constantly without "Bringing the game into disrepute" which is what they'll try and charge us with any chance they will get.

I have faith in our legal team that they'll do all they can.

 

As far as the championship is concerned, dropped points at Kilmarnock, Livi & of course Motherwell in the run in proved very costly, also, we weren't good enough in the 2nd half against the scumbags at parasites paradise to get a result on the day, yes the team was decimated, but took them till 87 mins to take the lead so it was there for the taking so to speak, know this might cause an upset to a few and not trying to offend, but is just how I have seen it, we needed to be out of site of both the arse cheeks by the end of the Rangers game but we couldn't manage that this season.

 

I'm very proud of the team for the season we had but we came up short and knew the dirty governing bodies would use any dirty trick they could to help the glesga 2 if needed.

 

We have loads to look forward to with our new set up so keep the faith, Hearts will  deliver what we all want soon enough!

 

As for the arse cheeks pals at Hampden, I have a feeling Starlizard's sporting integrity will keep them under severe scrutiny from now on to keep them on their toes.

[Broon187409]

21 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Correct. 

Fan owned, not fan run as was quoted by the board long time ago

[Broon187409]

14 minutes ago, JAYEL said:

We just need to prove that the game at Parkhead was not played out to the end of the allotted time

 

I think this will be easiest one to prove

 

You can’t have the clock still ticking whilst you have Celtic staff and fans swarming the pitch

 

The match was abandoned

 

3-0 Hearts

 

🇱🇻🏆🇱🇻

That's already been swept under the carpet mate, not gonna happen I'm afraid

[Ricardo Quaresma]

14 minutes ago, lost in space said:

Is there not an investigation going on - by the SFA/League - taking in these games and the pitch invasions?

Is it possible that Hearts have given their views/evidence to the investigation and are waiting on the outcome of that before commenting.

The club SHOULD  be keeping us informed - even if it is just to say they have given evidence and are waiting on the outcome of that.

 

Meanwhile what are the Police and government doing about the pitch invasions.  Are they waiting for the SFA to change the rules/punishments?

 

It has all gone quiet.  Hearts - and I mean the Board - cant just let this go.

 

 

If they were covered in the wullie show, that's that bit done, what else is there?

[Turkishcap]

Watch/listen to SATF ep408.

If that dont get you riled up nothing will.

 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

How can they is what I would like to know, I don't think they can, going to have to be the long game. Next season, we need to question everything and take to writing letters

[JAYEL]

1 minute ago, Broon187409 said:

That's already been swept under the carpet mate, not gonna happen I'm afraid

Not by us 😎

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

13 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

We know they cheated to stop us winning it, however - there has to be sufficient evidence to say that it wasn't just gross incompetence. 

 

And the club will always stay within legal guidance and wouldn't put their neck on the line unless they had something concrete. 

 

I cannae see it I'm afraid. 

 

But look, this will only make us stronger & more determined to beat the system. 

This is the key part for me, I guess they can ask why McLean was given the Scottish Cup afterwards, that doesn't look very clever, and if people are incompetent, they should be removed, that includes the person that rewarded the incompetence.

[Penrices left boot]

The new threads on this is just getting a bit silly as posters fight to get the most attention and be the most dramatic.

 

The answer is yes, and there is still no news of celtics punishment.

 

Their fans invaded the pitch and a game had to be called early because of it.

Despite the celtic PR machine going full out, this still happened.

 

Pitch invasions after FT are more common, but these do not impact the game, any pitch invasion, at any time that gets a game called early is a huge matter and if often comes with severe consequences- see the Czech league outcome.

 

The time left of the match  can be a factor on the severity of the punishment, but there is always still a punishment.

 

Let's not forget that despite different context, celtic benefited from a decision on a technicality years ago, when a unregistered player who was a late sub was brought on,  despite the sub being brought on late and having  no influence on a game, a 4-0 iirc correctly was reversed to a 3-0 defeat. Warsaw were subsequently kicked out of the tournament.

 

Again, if we'd been 1-0 up and invaded the pitch before FT and the game cut short, what would have happened?

 

A pitch invasion resulting in a game being  called early is a huge issue.

 

The VAR discussion is separate, and it seems like a distraction to kill time in the hope everyone forgets about the pitch invasion and a game effectively being abandoned.

 

The more I think about it, Hearts  should get a 3-0 win as the game was abandoned due to celtic fans invading the pitch.

 

If there is no severe punishment, it's just an open invitation to invade a pitch in the dieing minute's to get a game stopped with the result in you favour.

 

Time is irrelevant, 1st, minute, 69th minute, 89th min, 92, 95th minute- you can't set a time that it's ok to invade a pitch and get the game called early.

 

The mitigation of " Hearts agree to end the match as they want their players of the pitch for safety" is no mitigation at all.

We only wanted off the pitch as the pitch was invaded and Deek doesn't have the power to end the game, if he did we'd have ended it at HT or on the 86th minute.

 

Maybe we should have invaded the pitch around 85 minute, is that  an ok time to do it?

 

The board should be hammering this point and ofc going down the legal route.

 

Celtic will get a level of punishment, the severity is being mitigated due to the time, that will be the only debate.

 

They'll argue with 1-2 mins left we shouldn't get the default win as we'd never score 2 goals, we'll argue time is irrelevant, we might have scored 2 goals and clubs that have fans that invade the pitch need a severe punishment to discourage future events.

 

Czech league taken a day to hand out the verdict.

 

 

Edited June 1 by Penrices left boot

[Ricardo Quaresma]

3 minutes ago, Broon187409 said:

That's already been swept under the carpet mate, not gonna happen I'm afraid

 

I really, really, don't think it has but I know who wants it to be

 

They made an absolute pig's ear out of it

 

ain't no purse gettin' made wit' dat 5h1t

[Alex MacDonald]

The club has to raise all the issues mentioned above, as well as the fact that it’s been 96 games, and over 11 years, since a referee that wasn’t from Glasgow/Strathclyde, took charge of a Hearts v Celtic/Rangers game. In what way is that remotely acceptable/impartial. Along with everything else, it’s designed to give 2 clubs in Glasgow a distinct advantage.

[feej]

19 minutes ago, JAYEL said:

We just need to prove that the game at Parkhead was not played out to the end of the allotted time

 

I think this will be easiest one to prove

 

You can’t have the clock still ticking whilst you have Celtic staff and fans swarming the pitch

 

The match was abandoned

 

3-0 Hearts

 

🇱🇻🏆🇱🇻

Was watching the STV news the other night and the presenter clearly said that Celtic fans were on the pitch before the final whistle - to me again that affirms that the game was abandoned.

 

 

[Nookie Bear]

3 minutes ago, Penrices left boot said:

The new threads on this is just getting a bit silly as posters fight to get the most attention and be the most dramatic.

 

The answer is yes, and there is still no news of celtics punishment.

 

Their fans invaded the pitch and a game had to be called early because of it.

Despite the celtic PR machine going full out, this still happened.

 

Pitch invasions after FT are more common, but these do not impact the game, any pitch invasion, at any time that gets a game called early is a huge matter and if often cones with severe consequences- see the Czech league outcome.

 

The time left of the match  can be a factor on the severity the punishment, but there is always still a punishment.

 

Let's not forget that despite different context, celtic benefited from a decision on a technicality years ago, when a unregistered player who was a late sub was brought on,  despite the sub being brought on late and having  no influence on a game, a 4-0 iirc correctly was reversed to a 3-0 defeat. Warsaw were subsequently kicked out of the tournament.

 

Again, if we'd been 1-0 up and invaded the pitch before FT and the game cut short, what would have happened?

 

A pitch invasion resulting in a game being  called early is a huge issue.

 

The VAR discussion is separate, and it seems like a distraction to kill time in the hope everyone forgets about the pitch invasion and a game effectively being abandoned.

 

The more I think about it, Hearts  should get a 3-0 win as the game was abandoned due to celtic fans invading the pitch.

 

If there is no severe punishment, it's just an open invitation to invade a pitch in the dieing minute's to get a game stopped with the result in you favour.

 

Time is irrelevant, 1st, minute, 69th minute, 89th min, 92, 95th minute- you can't set a time that it's ok to invade a pitch and get the game called early.

 

The mitigation of " Hearts agree to end the match as they want their players of the pitch for safety" is no mitigation at all.

We only wanted off the pitch as the pitch waa invaded and Deek doesn't have the power to end the game, if he did we'd have ended it at HT or on the 86th minute.

 

Maybe we should have invaded the pitch around 85 minute, is that  an ok time to do it?

 

The board should be hammering this point and ofc going down the legal route.

 

Celtic will get a level of punishment, the severity is being mitigated due to the time, that will be the only debate.

 

They'll argue with 1-2 mins left we shouldn't get the default win as we'd never score 2 goals, we'll argue time is irrelevant, we might have scored 2 goals and clubs that have fans that invade the pitch need a severe punishment to discourage future events.

 

Czech league taken a day to hand out the verdict.

 

 

 

Surely the club can release a statement to either advise the fans the situation is still being dealt with by the SPFL or we are concerned that no investigation is happening or is close to resolution. 

 

For the VAR stuff i would like us to put pressure on the SPFL for transparency surrounding the content of MON's call to Collum and the way the Motherwell penalty/non-penalty were dealt with. But i feel that unless we can prove brown envelopes were being passed to Dallas etc the nwe will be shouting into the wind. 

 

Realistically i think we will end the summer with no punishmengt for celtic and the same referees in place next season. How our fans react to that is anyone's guess...

[JAYEL]

9 minutes ago, feej said:

Was watching the STV news the other night and the presenter clearly said that Celtic fans were on the pitch before the final whistle - to me again that affirms that the game was abandoned.

 

 

There is plenty video evidence of Celtic back room staff and subs invading the pitch as they score the 3rd goal quickly followed by invading fans

 

The referee corruption maybe difficult to prove but proving this game was abandoned looks like the easiest course of action to take

[Ricardo Quaresma]

17 minutes ago, Alex MacDonald said:

The club has to raise all the issues mentioned above, as well as the fact that it’s been 96 games, and over 11 years, since a referee that wasn’t from Glasgow/Strathclyde, took charge of a Hearts v Celtic/Rangers game. In what way is that remotely acceptable/impartial. Along with everything else, it’s designed to give 2 clubs in Glasgow a distinct advantage.

 

We could do with lists of referees and where they came from in the last 50 years to compare and plot the difference over time, showing the westward migration

 

An animated Map of Scotland would be the finished, damning, Article

Edited June 1 by Ricardo Quaresma

[kevin_sectionE]

1 hour ago, Richard Dawkins said:

The league title awarded to us due to the abandonment of the last game. Further, to expose and publicise the filthy governing body that cheats us. 

Dream on. They are not changing anything regarding the title award. 

 

[Bill Sikes]

There's no precident for this in Scottish Football and that's roundly because the SFA dither about, aren't pro-active and haven’t evolved naturally like all other associations not in the 3rd World. 

I'd imagine there's actually nothing we can do apart from dust ourselves down and go again next season.

 

The SFA have roughly covered just about all the important incidents like they always do with vague whataboutery, there's no way onfield decisions that have just been blatant cheating in my mind can be rectified. Its extremely easy from a Celtic point of view to argue none of these decisions were our fault and regarding the pitch invasion, we acknowledge it was unacceptable and we've been charged by the FA and we await their findings. 

 

Unfortunately in my mind the only way this get stopped is a full roots and branches independent inquiry ordered by ALL the clubs into the conduct of the SFA referees, it's own guidelines and a complete vote of no confidence in Doncaster and the entire SPFL fixture manipulation dept. 

 

Without knowing what avenues the club are going down makes this poll just a ridiculous rage bait anyway. 

 

At least wait until the statement that we've looked into everything and been advised by counsel that nothing good will come of any action towards the SFA/SPFL, we’ve made our feeling and the feelings of our fans known and that's the end of the matter, see you all next season etc  etc etc . . . Before screaming for sackings and full on Internet rage. 

 

 

 

Edited June 1 by Bill Sikes

[Pasquale for King]

42 minutes ago, Mollo said:

That's the one

 

It's a ready made case to ask for sensible answers on. Collum also claims SN did not do enough to get his arm out the way, but ignores the fact the Celtic player jumps up into his oxter AND SN tries to keep his arm close to his body - that's ALL he can do.

 

It's a case that both Rangers and Celtic would take to the beaks every day of the week - and they get places because they cause waves, I am no romantic for Vlad but if we can complain about whats wrong in the game in his reign, we damn well should be be making everything of this case at a time it's cost us the title.

Absolutely, Celtic fans seem to be incapable of seeing Trusty force Sam’s hand upwards but simultaneously see his elbow hit him 🤔🙄🤪?!?!

Vlad was absolutely spot on about the corruption in Scottish football.

[gnasher75]

Hearts have just put out a post on X talking about our potential opponents in CL QR2. So looks like we have accepted 2nd place.

[Pasquale for King]

18 minutes ago, feej said:

Was watching the STV news the other night and the presenter clearly said that Celtic fans were on the pitch before the final whistle - to me again that affirms that the game was abandoned.

 

 

It definitely was and in every other country in the world it would be awarded to us, as in Prague and somewhere else just last month. 

[feej]

8 minutes ago, JAYEL said:

There is plenty video evidence of Celtic back room staff and subs invading the pitch as they score the 3rd goal quickly followed by invading fans

 

The referee corruption maybe difficult to prove but proving this game was abandoned looks like the easiest course of action to take

Agreed.

[Pasquale for King]

2 minutes ago, gnasher75 said:

Hearts have just put out a post on X talking about our potential opponents in CL QR2. So looks like we have accepted 2nd place.

No real surprise, was hoping a backbone would be grown with Blooms man on the board but it’s still the same nodding heads on there outvoting him. 

[Pasquale for King]

33 minutes ago, Broon187409 said:

Fan owned, not fan run as was quoted by the board long time ago

A board kept in place by the majority shareholders, this can change and may well need to happen. 

[feej]

6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

It definitely was and in every other country in the world it would be awarded to us, as in Prague and somewhere else just last month. 

There is a precedent set now so same should be applied - won't hold my breath though - Scottish football is engineered around 2 teams for the purposes of TV and sponsorship deals, noone else matters.

I would think though that our challenge has actually increased the overall viewing figures and others who haven't given 2 hoots about our league became interested.

Edited June 1 by feej

[Alex MacDonald]

We have to fight for this ourselves. The MSM are all part of the coalition, they want to maintain the status quo. As far as football is concerned, whatever Glasgow wants, Glasgow gets.

[Nerja Jambo]

Take it as far as we can and take as long as it needs. We can afford this far more the SFA can as they live basically hand to mouth financially. If we win our case we demand the sacking of Doncaster and Collum and retire Beaton and Mclean. I find it shocking that some want to give up as that is exactly what the SFA want. Fight it every inch of the way.  

[maroonsgotop]

They've now completed the circling of the wagons with all their public statements being finalised with Collum's VAR lies last week and the CFA making their statement the same day saying it was "disgusting" the way refs were being treated. (they also punished Falkirk for minor pyro stuff but have done nothing against Celtic or Sevco so they're paving the way for minimal action there as well) 

 

Most of us knew what they would say to cover up their cheating to ensure the Title was handed to Celtic so Hearts can now proceed with any planned actions or simply throw in the towel. 

 

Sporting integrity is something you will not hear in Scottish Football.

[HeartsCobra]

30 minutes ago, Penrices left boot said:

The new threads on this is just getting a bit silly as posters fight to get the most attention and be the most dramatic.

 

The answer is yes, and there is still no news of celtics punishment.

 

Their fans invaded the pitch and a game had to be called early because of it.

Despite the celtic PR machine going full out, this still happened.

 

Pitch invasions after FT are more common, but these do not impact the game, any pitch invasion, at any time that gets a game called early is a huge matter and if often comes with severe consequences- see the Czech league outcome.

 

The time left of the match  can be a factor on the severity of the punishment, but there is always still a punishment.

 

Let's not forget that despite different context, celtic benefited from a decision on a technicality years ago, when a unregistered player who was a late sub was brought on,  despite the sub being brought on late and having  no influence on a game, a 4-0 iirc correctly was reversed to a 3-0 defeat. Warsaw were subsequently kicked out of the tournament.

 

Again, if we'd been 1-0 up and invaded the pitch before FT and the game cut short, what would have happened?

 

A pitch invasion resulting in a game being  called early is a huge issue.

 

The VAR discussion is separate, and it seems like a distraction to kill time in the hope everyone forgets about the pitch invasion and a game effectively being abandoned.

 

The more I think about it, Hearts  should get a 3-0 win as the game was abandoned due to celtic fans invading the pitch.

 

If there is no severe punishment, it's just an open invitation to invade a pitch in the dieing minute's to get a game stopped with the result in you favour.

 

Time is irrelevant, 1st, minute, 69th minute, 89th min, 92, 95th minute- you can't set a time that it's ok to invade a pitch and get the game called early.

 

The mitigation of " Hearts agree to end the match as they want their players of the pitch for safety" is no mitigation at all.

We only wanted off the pitch as the pitch was invaded and Deek doesn't have the power to end the game, if he did we'd have ended it at HT or on the 86th minute.

 

Maybe we should have invaded the pitch around 85 minute, is that  an ok time to do it?

 

The board should be hammering this point and ofc going down the legal route.

 

Celtic will get a level of punishment, the severity is being mitigated due to the time, that will be the only debate.

 

They'll argue with 1-2 mins left we shouldn't get the default win as we'd never score 2 goals, we'll argue time is irrelevant, we might have scored 2 goals and clubs that have fans that invade the pitch need a severe punishment to discourage future events.

 

Czech league taken a day to hand out the verdict.

 

 

 

Exactly, it’s not about the score, its a question of what is the punishment for a club’s supporters invading the pitch and forcing the match to finish? 

 

Quite why the SFA and the SPFL are bending out of shape to defend the outcome of a celti title win begs some deep questions in itself.

[Broon187409]

7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

A board kept in place by the majority shareholders, this can change and may well need to happen. 

I wouldn't be against that tbh

[Nerja Jambo]

51 minutes ago, JAYEL said:

We just need to prove that the game at Parkhead was not played out to the end of the allotted time

 

I think this will be easiest one to prove

 

You can’t have the clock still ticking whilst you have Celtic staff and fans swarming the pitch

 

The match was abandoned

 

3-0 Hearts

 

🇱🇻🏆🇱🇻

The match was abandoned on the instructions of the match commander who was the one who told the players and staff to get right on the bus and go. It matters not a jot how long was left to play, at least a minute, probably a bit more. Would we have scored 2 in that time, highly unlikely, but plenty clubs have done so, including us and Celtic. It is not up to the referee to decide we couldn't. He has to play out the full minutes. The fact the commander advised him to finish the game means it was abandoned. 

[Pasquale for King]

11 minutes ago, feej said:

There is a precedent set now so same should be applied - won't hold my breath though - Scottish football is engineered around 2 teams for the purposes of TV and sponsorship deals, noone else matters.

I would think though that our challenge has actually increased the overall viewing figures and others who haven't given 2 hoots about our league became interested.

Definitely, seeing Celtic getting decisions against Rangers shows they are definitely the establishment club now though.

[Pasquale for King]

2 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

The match was abandoned on the instructions of the match commander who was the one who told the players and staff to get right on the bus and go. It matters not a jot how long was left to play, at least a minute, probably a bit more. Would we have scored 2 in that time, highly unlikely, but plenty clubs have done so, including us and Celtic. It is not up to the referee to decide we couldn't. He has to play out the full minutes. The fact the commander advised him to finish the game means it was abandoned. 

Exactly 👍🏾 

[Pasquale for King]

8 minutes ago, Broon187409 said:

I wouldn't be against that tbh

Me neither 👍🏾

[Taffin]

I'm really at a loss as to what people think the board can or will do?

 

The Hearts statements have alluded to them doing something but haven't explicitly said what their issue is or what they want. I appreciate they maybe feel they can't but eventually they do need to share that with the fan base imo to bring people on the journey or people will move one. Hinting at it is evidently just torturing some of the more pie in the sky fans.

Edited June 1 by Taffin

[HeartsCobra]

4 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

The match was abandoned on the instructions of the match commander who was the one who told the players and staff to get right on the bus and go. It matters not a jot how long was left to play, at least a minute, probably a bit more. Would we have scored 2 in that time, highly unlikely, but plenty clubs have done so, including us and Celtic. It is not up to the referee to decide we couldn't. He has to play out the full minutes. The fact the commander advised him to finish the game means it was abandoned. 

 

The question I have – and I may be being daft and maybe it’s been covered in the thousands of posts here for the past two weeks – is can UEFA, FIFA or CAS overrule the SFA/SPFL in a case like this?