tiger Rudi Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Hope he stays but let's not give him until the last minute to decide eh If he's going, we need to know early, so we can plan ahead and bring in replacements. We don't want another Shanks turning up at training camp later than everybody else and only because other interested clubs have not come through for him. Love Cammy but let's start putting the club first and giving the guys who want to be here our full attention. Anybody needing their arm twisted can do one. If there's a good deal on the table for him, I'd set some kind of time limit on signing it.
soonbe110 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 10 minutes ago, ramrod said: Got a feeling we will be looking back in a few years saying remember that Summer when the majority were gutted when we lost Shanks and Cammy with a smirk on our faces. Possibly next summer.
Morgan Posted May 27 Posted May 27 36 minutes ago, busby10 said: You're probably right morgan ,I'm still raging mate
ford donald Posted May 27 Posted May 27 4 hours ago, Philfigo said: I have a the fear that Rangers will come in for him! There comment from there CEO about buying players who know the Scottish game have given me a complex, especially after Shankland debacle. Still think he will go to the USA.
tiger Rudi Posted May 27 Posted May 27 25 minutes ago, Shanks said: He will be waiting to see what offers he has after world cup. Usually get players that have an amazing world cup and get a move or contract way above their general ability. If there a no better offers than ours then he may grace us with his presence again. That worked well for Shanks at the Euros. Will Cammy even get much game time? I'd much prefer he made a decision before it all kicks off. We have a season to plan for and players to sign. I'm all for players having a bit of power and looking at their alternatives but **** me we need to start thinking about the club first and foremost and not one individual.
TOJ 13 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 10 hours ago, The Black Prince said: Reading that he's a chance of staying but being courted by numerous clubs in the MLS and also the English Championship. What's the word in Embra? Love him to sign a new contract. It's "Edinburgh" mate
Cochrane123 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Wonder if Shankland going will allow more flexibility in our contract offers to Cammy. Arguably lost our biggest earner and McIness has said new signings are on Hearts wages. I wouldn't be too aggrieved if Cammy took that top earner mantel tbh.
tiger Rudi Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Cochrane123 said: Wonder if Shankland going will allow more flexibility in our contract offers to Cammy. Arguably lost our biggest earner and McIness has said new signings are on Hearts wages. I wouldn't be too aggrieved if Cammy took that top earner mantel tbh. Hmm if Cammy is our top earner we really aren't progressing are we? General consensus was that our midfield weren't performing. Or at least not providing a positive forward threat. I'd like him to stay for some stability now that Beni and Leonard are away, but do hope we have plans to really try and level up in that area. We need battlers and destroyers like Cammy for some games, less so if we are going to be this dominant attacking force and make sure we don't trip up against the Livi's and Killie's again. Edited May 27 by tiger Rudi Edit
ScandinavianJambo Posted May 27 Posted May 27 7 minutes ago, Cochrane123 said: Wonder if Shankland going will allow more flexibility in our contract offers to Cammy. Arguably lost our biggest earner and McIness has said new signings are on Hearts wages. I wouldn't be too aggrieved if Cammy took that top earner mantel tbh. He is captain material and should be offered a good wage, as we need a neclues of older players with all the new talent coming in. We will see what happens next. I can deal with him going, but not to Rangers. That would turn my stomach.
Shanks Posted May 27 Posted May 27 16 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: That worked well for Shanks at the Euros. Will Cammy even get much game time? I'd much prefer he made a decision before it all kicks off. We have a season to plan for and players to sign. I'm all for players having a bit of power and looking at their alternatives but **** me we need to start thinking about the club first and foremost and not one individual. Can you blame him? Cammys agent has seen how much of a soft touch we were with shankland, knows we will just wait about like wee lap dogs and give them whatever deal they want if they want one.
bloomtime Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) If hes humming and hawing give him deadline of few days dont drag it out. We've been good for his career and if he wants to join one of the great unwashed like spamhead then cheerio. If he does go to usa as rumoured then thanks for memories. Time we grew a pair after last fiasco. Sick of club being soft touch. Edited May 27 by bloomtime
OTT Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Cochrane123 said: Wonder if Shankland going will allow more flexibility in our contract offers to Cammy. Arguably lost our biggest earner and McIness has said new signings are on Hearts wages. I wouldn't be too aggrieved if Cammy took that top earner mantel tbh. Me too. By the looks of things we're going to be bringing in a lot of young and foreign players. We do not want to start next season slowly, and IMO we do that by ensuring that we have a clear leader who can help bring these players up to speed as quickly as possible. Devlin for me embodies so much of what Hearts fans expect from their team by virtue of his sheer work rate. You can tell he cares about the club and has that bond with fans. For me, that is something special, and I'm not sure JTA takes that sort of intangible into consideration. Absolutely we can get better value for money, we can find someone with a higher ceiling, but I think without the environment that last seasons JTA signings walked into - having established leaders like Halkett, Kent, Shankland, Devlin to help them with understanding the scottish game, the pace its played at, the expectations of the club.. I'm not sure they'd have been as successful. I noticed several times over the course of the season that Cammy was nipping at Braga and Kyzi when they weren't paying attention. I remember back when Levein was DOF and we had that huge influx of foreign players, many of us felt that the identity of the team was lost, and we didn't quite seem to grasp the passion or the fight needed to actually win games. Juanma was a great striker, but didn't have that right sort attitude. Someone like Devlin helps motivate those around him. For me, its an absolute no brainer. We do not want to create set backs for ourselves, and we do this by signing Devlin and making him our captain. Lets not forget that Halks is out long term, Kingsley cannot play volume of games we will need next season. Basically just leaves Milne & Findlay. That is a recipe for disaster IMO.
Radio-Braga Posted May 27 Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, bloomtime said: If hes humming and hawing give him deadline of few days dont drag it out. We've been good for his career and if he wants to join one of the great unwashed like spamhead then cheerio. Dont think that’s particularly fair when all his focus will be on Australia just now mate.
Oda be a JT Posted May 27 Posted May 27 35 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: If he didn’t want to leave would he not have signed the contract offered to him? If he is weak in some JTA attributes we all know which ones they would be. Depends on what McInnes is looking for. I agree, was just chat from someone claiming to know more than me - the failing a pass with JTA part puzzled me
Hømme Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Cammy would blow up the JTA computer if you punched in his attributes as the type of player you were after.
Martin Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Should do everything we can to keep him and make him captain. Need to have some sort of continuity going into next season. In all these years at the club, he has never had someone beside him who was excellent on the ball and could play a proper forward pass. Put someone with Devlin's qualities, next to a player like that and it will enhance Devlin's contribution to the team even more.
Watt-Zeefuik Posted May 27 Posted May 27 51 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: If he didn’t want to leave would he not have signed the contract offered to him? If he is weak in some JTA attributes we all know which ones they would be. Depends on what McInnes is looking for. If we've offered him X pw and his agent is saying he can get 1.8 * X pw in the US or some such, he's got a reason to hold out a bit. This will be the biggest contract he ever signs and his last chance to truly make bank. I don't blame him for being hard-nosed about it. I just hope we can come to terms.
Sarah O Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Give him whatever he wants, the armband and a lifetime contract. PHM personified.
Cisc0 K1d Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I'd like to keep him and I'm sure there is a fair offer on the table but if not he is pretty easily replaceable, we would probably not get as good a ball winner but we would likely find a more rounded player than him. If I was Cammy I'd be keeping my options open, probably his last decent contract and if I was from Australia I would be keen to try out another country and culture if that was an option. All in all good to keep things in perspective, it would be great if we keep him but we would be daft to over pay for him and it will not be the end of the world if he goes.
Watt-Zeefuik Posted May 27 Posted May 27 37 minutes ago, Cochrane123 said: Wonder if Shankland going will allow more flexibility in our contract offers to Cammy. Arguably lost our biggest earner and McIness has said new signings are on Hearts wages. I wouldn't be too aggrieved if Cammy took that top earner mantel tbh. I think Gordon was on a big wage too IIRC. We may very well re-sign him to the playing squad but there's no chance it will be for a big wage.
tiger Rudi Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Leonard was a stop gap signing for Devlin, his injury means any notion of signing him is dead for now. Renaud a likely replacement for Beni, but somebody who can spray the ball about a lot more and be more positive hopefully. If Cammy signs that basically leaves the same midfield as last season. Is that going to be enough of a levelling up? Is that enough of a change? Magnusson, Ageu, Altena (McInnes seems to see him as a midfielder) Spittal, McEntee. I hope we have plans to improve that area of the squad further. I want Cammy to sign but I wouldn't be getting held to ransom and throwing ridiculous money at him. With JTA we might just get a more attack minded player who helps raise the overall standard. All depends on what McInnes wants from that area. Ageu will hopefully be that creative spark we have been missing.
Shanks Posted May 27 Posted May 27 8 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Reports online he’s signing for Rangers. Seeing him and shankland smiling in hun strips holding one of their scarves above their heads would just sum this past couple weeks up.
Morgan Posted May 27 Posted May 27 14 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Reports online he’s signing for Rangers.
Badonde Posted May 27 Posted May 27 14 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Reports online he’s signing for Rangers. Stop lying
Jambosteve1902 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 15 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Reports online he’s signing for Rangers. fake photoshopped romano post has spiralled that, devlin is not going to Rangers.
GBJambo Posted May 27 Posted May 27 16 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Reports online he’s signing for Rangers. That’s pish . Fake twitter accounts
soonbe110 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 23 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: If we've offered him X pw and his agent is saying he can get 1.8 * X pw in the US or some such, he's got a reason to hold out a bit. This will be the biggest contract he ever signs and his last chance to truly make bank. I don't blame him for being hard-nosed about it. I just hope we can come to terms. If he truly has several MLS clubs after him plus interest from the Championship we won’t be near the top of the total package that could be offered to him. If Rangers do have an interest (which I doubt) they will be 2x us at least. Suspect his first choice is to stay at Hearts for personal reasons but that comes with a significant financial penalty. He isn’t worth breaking the bank for the in the way we supposedly were willing to do for Shankland last year.
Bongo 1874 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 hour ago, tiger Rudi said: Hmm if Cammy is our top earner we really aren't progressing are we? General consensus was that our midfield weren't performing. Or at least not providing a positive forward threat. I'd like him to stay for some stability now that Beni and Leonard are away, but do hope we have plans to really try and level up in that area. We need battlers and destroyers like Cammy for some games, less so if we are going to be this dominant attacking force and make sure we don't trip up against the Livi's and Killie's again. Cammy had the best ball winning stats in league and that's despite him being out for a lengthy period. Put him infront of the two centre backs and Hearts are laughing, 433 two better players beside him that are attacking job sorted trust me.
4marsbars Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 hour ago, The Tackle said: I love Cammy but I think we can do better, not sure I want to watch him passing the ball backwards or sideways for another 2-3 seasons What planet are you on?
RustyRightPeg Posted May 27 Posted May 27 39 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Reports online he’s signing for Rangers. Send the reports in
manaliveits105 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I like Devlin but If he signs he can fight for his place . If he doesn’t meh!
tiger Rudi Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Cammy had the best ball winning stats in league and that's despite him being out for a lengthy period. Put him infront of the two centre backs and Hearts are laughing, 433 two better players beside him that are attacking job sorted trust me. I'd like to agree Bongo but there's a reason managers played two defensive minded players in Devlin and Beni. Neither of them could control that area by themselves imho. The only time I saw Devlin doing it was a home euro tie. Can't remember who it was, but he was immense that night. But that team sat in and didn't really attack much. You could be right of course. I honestly think McInnes brought McEntee and Magnusson in as defensive mids and was taken aback at how good Devlin was. For me, both those players would be comfortable in there. I think Renaud might be the guy. We need somebody in that holding role who can get on the ball and spray the ball about if he's going to do the job by himself. As you say, two more attack minded players beside him. We shall see. Edited May 27 by tiger Rudi Edit
One five Posted May 27 Posted May 27 55 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: Leonard was a stop gap signing for Devlin, his injury means any notion of signing him is dead for now. Renaud a likely replacement for Beni, but somebody who can spray the ball about a lot more and be more positive hopefully. If Cammy signs that basically leaves the same midfield as last season. Is that going to be enough of a levelling up? Is that enough of a change? Magnusson, Ageu, Altena (McInnes seems to see him as a midfielder) Spittal, McEntee. I hope we have plans to improve that area of the squad further. I want Cammy to sign but I wouldn't be getting held to ransom and throwing ridiculous money at him. With JTA we might just get a more attack minded player who helps raise the overall standard. All depends on what McInnes wants from that area. Ageu will hopefully be that creative spark we have been missing. Hoping to see Ageu starting some light training soon would very much like to see him getting a full pre season. From what I seen ( yes not a lot) I really think he is a player, could be brilliant for us.
Penrices left boot Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Rangers progress last few years in attack/ centre midfield. Morelos- Dessers- cheminti- Shankland. Aribo- Kamari- raskin- Devlin... Their defence and wingers have followed the same pattern. Kent- 18 year old loanee, Goldson- Souttar etc, even McGregor-Butland. I know that some of the options are depth etc, but rangers progress in all areas since Gerrard won the league has been honking. If they start games with the likes of Souttar, Devlin and Shankland then they aren't going to be anything to worry about. Their levels are dropping season on season. If they are paying the likes of Shankland and Devlin silly money to progress in Europe, catch celtic and outsmart JTA then they are in for a surprise.
chrisyboy7 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 He will be replaced soon hopefully and we can all look forward not back
HopeDiouf Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Hopefully signs a new deal. Cracking player to have in the squad and the seethe from some of the haters who can't admit they were wrong would be glorious.
Pasquale for King Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Was it bit rumoured that he wanted £10k a week and JTA said they could find a better player for that money.
JamboRaider Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Would like nothing better for Cammy to sign a new deal, and if so, be rewarded with the team captaincy. He obviously understands what it really means to wear and represent that Maroon shirt. If he decides otherwise, then so be it. Will always respect his hard work and commitment to our club. If he does end up along with shankland, then Tynecastle has to be an absolute hot bed of hostility.
Deodato Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I'm hearing on good authority that he is staying with us for next season.
Saint Jambo Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Prior to his injury Devlin was being talked about as a potential SPFL player of the year. He was a key part of a team that defied all expectations to come within minutes of winning the league (and only lost out because of some terrible decisions). Yet lots of our fans talking about how he isn't very good and can be easily replaced. I just don't get it. Devlin is one of our top performers in a great season. He plays a key role in turning the ball over and disrupting attacks, before moving it on to more creative players. He clearly loves playing football and loves playing for Hearts. At a time when we are losing the spine of the team, I really hope the club pushes the boat out to keep Devlin.
tartofmidlothian Posted May 27 Posted May 27 14 minutes ago, Deodato said: I'm hearing on good authority that he is staying with us for next season. Only for next season?
gregzy2k7 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 I feel like he will move on, He has been great player for us and I wouldnt be against him staying but I just think at this stage and the stage he is at in his career, he probably needs a fresh challenge and we need to fully commit to JTA imo.
Jambotommy Posted May 28 Posted May 28 8 hours ago, Philfigo said: I have a the fear that Rangers will come in for him! There comment from there CEO about buying players who know the Scottish game have given me a complex, especially after Shankland debacle. Honestly, Rangers are obsessed with us... Jambos without the bus fare...
daavojaay Posted May 28 Posted May 28 We need some stability kept in the team. A whole new team isn't sounding good we need the nucleus of the team to still be there
maroonspecs Posted May 28 Posted May 28 6 hours ago, Deodato said: I'm hearing on good authority that he is staying with us for next season. With the option of a further two?
Marvin Posted May 28 Posted May 28 1 hour ago, maroonspecs said: With the option of a further two? Don't tempt fate 😆
tiger Rudi Posted May 28 Posted May 28 8 hours ago, Penrices left boot said: Rangers progress last few years in attack/ centre midfield. Morelos- Dessers- cheminti- Shankland. Aribo- Kamari- raskin- Devlin... Their defence and wingers have followed the same pattern. Kent- 18 year old loanee, Goldson- Souttar etc, even McGregor-Butland. I know that some of the options are depth etc, but rangers progress in all areas since Gerrard won the league has been honking. If they start games with the likes of Souttar, Devlin and Shankland then they aren't going to be anything to worry about. Their levels are dropping season on season. If they are paying the likes of Shankland and Devlin silly money to progress in Europe, catch celtic and outsmart JTA then they are in for a surprise. Yep. I think they are on a downward trajectory. Shankland could be a decent signing but it's very short term thinking. As you say, they are hardly looking like a force to be reckoned with in Europe. Not even sure Shankland will fit into their team at all tbh. Anybody that thought Antman at 3mill was a better prospect than Curtis requires assistance to cross a road.
bobby bombscare Posted May 28 Posted May 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: Yep. I think they are on a downward trajectory. Shankland could be a decent signing but it's very short term thinking. As you say, they are hardly looking like a force to be reckoned with in Europe. Not even sure Shankland will fit into their team at all tbh. Anybody that thought Antman at 3mill was a better prospect than Curtis requires assistance to cross a road. I think for anyone without maroon tinted specs on Shankland on a free is an excellent bit of business.. regardless of age, he is a 20+goal a season striker proved multiple times over. Scored goals in omestically, in Europe, and at international level. A great signing for any spl club. I agree on all other counts though and I don't think they believe this is good business.. I think they are skint! Edited May 28 by bobby bombscare
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