SPFL Disciplinary Investigations

[selkirkhmfc1874]

Sweep sweep sweep 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Ian Maxwell wanted Derek McInnes to accept the decisions.

 

"We need to look at the way clubs speak after matches, what managers say, what players say, what the media say in terms of fanning the flames and talking about bias and conspiracy."

He is a simpleton who is completely out of his depth.

[Rudi cant fail]

1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

He is a simpleton who is completely out of his depth.

No he is not, he’s doing exactly what he’s employed to do. His employers will be extremely pleased with the job he’s doing 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

4 minutes ago, Rudi cant fail said:

No he is not, he’s doing exactly what he’s employed to do. His employers will be extremely pleased with the job he’s doing 

He is doing a great job of looking like an idiot then 

[Rudi cant fail]

1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

He is doing a great job of looking like an idiot then 

Is that not the point? 

[Der Kaiser]

Pitch Invasion.

 

1st Time - Significant fine and warning.

2nd Time - Increased significant fine and game forfeited to opponent. 

Repeat part 2 as required.

 

How is this not difficult to implement?

 

[XB52]

2 hours ago, Pivo said:

Whatever the outcome it is within the clubs control to punish Celtic for the pitch invasion which endangered our players. 
 

We own the club and perhaps a fan led petition should be put in place to put pressure on and vocalise that we want a 1 season ban on Celtic fans. 
 

They may retaliate but we have to do something. 

Whatever happens there should be zero tims at Tynecastle next season

Edited May 28 by XB52

[Seymour M Hersh]

10 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

He is doing a great job of looking like an idiot then 

 

He really does look and sound like a half-wit.

[ArcticJambo]

They're building to reluctantly accept rule changes for next season, with maybe a token fine for Celtic but will fight tooth n nail including that club lawyering up to prevent any current form of sanction.

 

Utter pricks! 

Edited May 28 by ArcticJambo

[JJ1984]

8 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said:

Pitch Invasion.

 

1st Time - Significant fine and warning.

2nd Time - Increased significant fine and game forfeited to opponent. 

Repeat part 2 as required.

 

How is this not difficult to implement?

 

There’s no strict liability to clubs in this country. That’s the problem and why the old firm have got away with sectarian shite for so long. It’s also why they get hammered off UEFA but not domestically. 

[jackal]

As I said before all they needed to do was make Celtic forfeit that game and mass pitch invasions would dissappear overnight. 

 

Too scared to upset Celtic and their fans though. 

[JJ1984]

1 minute ago, ArcticJambo said:

They're building to reluctantly accept rule changes for next season, with maybe a friend be for Celtic but will fight tooth n nail including that club lawyering up to prevent any current s ason sanction.

 

Utter pricks! 

The rule change will be to make it a criminal offence to go onto the pitch. They have that down south but not up here. 

[Jambo61]

2 hours ago, Nerja Jambo said:

I sent her an e-mail over the weekend, but no doubt she is like the Local Gov., Environment and Transport Ministers, they claim they do not get involved and just pass the buck to a quango which then states its not in their remit. 

Lessons will be learned.......stock response from any Government department!

[Jambo61]

2 minutes ago, JJ1984 said:

There’s no strict liability to clubs in this country. That’s the problem and why the old firm have got away with sectarian shite for so long. It’s also why they get hammered off UEFA but not domestically. 

That argument can only apply outside their premises!

[Mikey1874]

2 minutes ago, JJ1984 said:

The rule change will be to make it a criminal offence to go onto the pitch. They have that down south but not up here. 

 

The SFA can't change the law and seems to not want to.

[Dirty Deeds]

Shocking lack of urgency from the SFA today. I really hope that we've something left in our armoury and aren't accepting this pish.

[The Treasurer]

3 hours ago, Nerja Jambo said:

I sent her an e-mail over the weekend, but no doubt she is like the Local Gov., Environment and Transport Ministers, they claim they do not get involved and just pass the buck to a quango which then states its not in their remit. 

Sounds like a familiar response 

[JJ1984]

3 minutes ago, Jambo61 said:

That argument can only apply outside their premises!

If that was the case they would have been done for displays and singing etc in their stadiums. It applies inside all football grounds in the country. 

[JJ1984]

3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

The SFA can't change the law and seems to not want to.

I think now that police Scotland have reported there’s been no assaults on players they will push for it to be a criminal offence to enter the pitch so they stop.

[Hector Riva]

Stv news.

Game stopped before the final whistle . 

 

[ollie2004]

2 minutes ago, JJ1984 said:

I think now that police Scotland have reported there’s been no assaults on players they will push for it to be a criminal offence to enter the pitch so they stop.

I read elsewhere that assault does not need to be physical but can also be abusive behaviour. I also understand that invading the pitch is a public order offence including breach of the peace! Did Police Scotland not call out Septic for inadequate security prior to that incident?

[gjcc]

Maxwells trotting out the decisions that are “perceived to be wrong” line. And

 

Also stating that VAR errors are just as common in England’s VAR system when in actual fact we had double the errors (according to our KMI panel) despite the EPL having 40% more matches. 

[gjcc]

5 minutes ago, ollie2004 said:

I read elsewhere that assault does not need to be physical but can also be abusive behaviour. I also understand that invading the pitch is a public order offence including breach of the peace! Did Police Scotland not call out Septic for inadequate security prior to that incident?

Aye the guy recording himself calling Devlin and “orange bas****” was probably just showing his over exuberance. 

[Peter up the Hill]

9 minutes ago, ollie2004 said:

I read elsewhere that assault does not need to be physical but can also be abusive behaviour. I also understand that invading the pitch is a public order offence including breach of the peace! Did Police Scotland not call out Septic for inadequate security prior to that incident?

So the police have ruled that Shankland being slapped in the face then punched in the stomach wasn't assault?

[WorldChampions1902]

2 minutes ago, gjcc said:

Aye the guy recording himself calling Devlin and “orange bas****” was probably just showing his over exuberance. 

A verbal assault then.

[ShortmanRossco]

2 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

I couldn’t believe my ears listening to this tit.

 

”VAR is doing exactly what it was supposed to do”

 

The same VAR that the KMI panel deemed made the wrong decision just two days ago?

 

Is he ****ing stupid?

[Peter up the Hill]

2 minutes ago, gjcc said:

Aye the guy recording himself calling Devlin and “orange bas****” was probably just showing his over exuberance. 

Remember when one of our own was charged and found guilty of a racially aggravated assault for calling hartson a dirty welsh barsteward?

[Quint]

Longer they wait less able to punish in actual season the events happened. If they has done investigation into cup invasion in 2 or 3 weeks they may have stopped what happened on final day. 
 

now they are adding other matches no chance we get resolution this year. Cannot remove title, which was always unlikely, cannot ban from Europe or remove points as new competition under way.  
 

Worst thing that will happen will be fine, stadiums closed or suspended points deduction. Headline will be Celtic given x points deduction for 25/27 of they invade pitch but time it so that the period ends just before crucial part of season. Makes it sound tough action but ultimately pathetic. 

[Bill Sikes]

3 minutes ago, Peter up the Hill said:

So the police have ruled that Shankland being slapped in the face then punched in the stomach wasn't assault?

 

No, it looks like Hearts haven't made a complaint so the Police are taking no action. 

[WorldChampions1902]

2 minutes ago, Peter up the Hill said:

Remember when one of our own was charged and found guilty of a racially aggravated assault for calling hartson a dirty welsh barsteward?

It was Craig Bellamy IIRC.

[ramrod]

33 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Whatever happens there should be zero tims at Tynecastle next season

This and we should site the SFA's failure to take action on last Seasons multiple infractions by them.

[gjcc]

2 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

A verbal assault then.

Yep, assault is assault. Police said no reports of assault.

It needs reported, why hasn’t it been when there is video evidence? Letting it go quiet has just fed the “Celtic Good Guys” narrative. 

[Cruickie's Moustache]

As said elsewhere many problems in the Scottish Game could be solved pretty much overnight if harsher penalties were deployed.

 

We all know the vast majority of games across the country pass off without any problems, it isn't hard to identify what and where the main problems are occuring.

 

Fines to begin with.

Stadium bans and increased fines for further offenses

Bans, fines and points reductions (or thrown out of a cup) if offense repeated.

 

The EFL show what can be done, regards Southampton, if you put your mind to it. 

 

No chance any EFL club will even think about spying in the future.

 

The first 3pts deduction, to any Scottish club, will see decent fans quickly turn on the idiots within all fan bases and self policing will resolve most issues.

 

[cjay99]

I don't understand why we claimed assault if we didn't have any hard evidence of it. Makes us look daft.

[joondalupjambo]

49 minutes ago, gjcc said:

Maxwells trotting out the decisions that are “perceived to be wrong” line. And

 

Also stating that VAR errors are just as common in England’s VAR system when in actual fact we had double the errors (according to our KMI panel) despite the EPL having 40% more matches. 

This is the sort of stat that the media needs to say.  Tom English might, Michael Stewart too and Off the Ball might say it in jest.   It needs more honest journalism instead of them all running scared and being frightened they get barred from the games.

[Spellczech]

Only problem for the SFA is that this season proved, what were only previously strong suspicions, about bias and conspiracy...

[kila]

Maxwell's only concern is his jolly at the World Cup. A useless status quo ****wit. Would love him to somehow lose his job before the World Cup starts.

[John Findlay]

SFA and SPFL are not fit for purpose.

They have zero interest in punishing the Blue half and Green half of Glasgow. Together they are cowards.

 

[Horatio Caine]

Any time pitch `incursions` are mentioned, there is one club which is the common factor in all of them.

 

What to do about it...eh?

[Jamhammer]

2 hours ago, Der Kaiser said:

Pitch Invasion.

 

1st Time - Significant fine and warning.

2nd Time - Increased significant fine and game forfeited to opponent. 

Repeat part 2 as required.

 

How is this not difficult to implement?

 

This in fn spades

[Philfigo]

1 hour ago, cjay99 said:

I don't understand why we claimed assault if we didn't have any hard evidence of it. Makes us look daft.

If this is true then there is a worrying trend of our board making us the supporters look like idiots. We are backing the club 100% on issues but the board seem to put out misleading statements, if we know upfront are not true the it would help greatly. Absolutely sick of sounding like an idiot when Hearts are involved. Next time the club have issues and statement of player contracts I for one will be taking it with a pinch of salt.

[HeartsCobra]

1 hour ago, ShortmanRossco said:

I couldn’t believe my ears listening to this tit.

 

”VAR is doing exactly what it was supposed to do”

 

The same VAR that the KMI panel deemed made the wrong decision just two days ago?

 

Is he ****ing stupid?

 

The next question is: Ian Maxwell, what do you believe VAR is supposed to be doing?

 

[tcjambo]

2 hours ago, XB52 said:

Whatever happens there should be zero tims at Tynecastle next season

We can't prevent the refs and officials attending.

[HeartsCobra]

2 hours ago, Hector Riva said:

Stv news.

Game stopped before the final whistle . 

 

 

“hundreds of Celtic fans streamed onto the pitch at Parkhead on the final day of the season while the game was still being played”

 

https://news.stv.tv/sport/sfa-chief-warns-of-stadium-closures-amid-rising-fan-disorder

 

 

[RENE]

6 minutes ago, HeartsCobra said:

 

“hundreds of Celtic fans streamed onto the pitch at Parkhead on the final day of the season while the game was still being played”

 

https://news.stv.tv/sport/sfa-chief-warns-of-stadium-closures-amid-rising-fan-disorder

 

 

To be fair STV have always said that in their news bulletins

[normando]

10 minutes ago, HeartsCobra said:

 

The next question is: Ian Maxwell, what do you believe VAR is supposed to be doing?

 

This clown is a Billy Bullshit talks like a second hand car salesman a squirt of a man.

Mulreaney Doncaster him etc no wonder the game is going downhill fast with people like them in charge.

Its like a gentlemens  club a couple of creeps ruining and corrupting the game,

[gnasher75]

14 minutes ago, HeartsCobra said:

 

“hundreds of Celtic fans streamed onto the pitch at Parkhead on the final day of the season while the game was still being played”

 

https://news.stv.tv/sport/sfa-chief-warns-of-stadium-closures-amid-rising-fan-disorder

 

 

 

Isn't it incredible that we are surprised and delighted when the media report the actual facts that everyone saw?!

 

The sweeping under the carpet has been so successful that it is quite a shock to see the truth in black and white.

 

The next question the journalists should be asking the SFA and SPFL is: What are you going to do to punish Celtic now with the powers you have for the rules they have broken? 

 

 

[HeartsCobra]

27 minutes ago, normando said:

This clown is a Billy Bullshit talks like a second hand car salesman a squirt of a man.

Mulreaney Doncaster him etc no wonder the game is going downhill fast with people like them in charge.

Its like a gentlemens  club a couple of creeps ruining and corrupting the game,

 

In a nutshell.

[HeartsCobra]

34 minutes ago, RENE said:

To be fair STV have always said that in their news bulletins

 

I don’t watch it. Last I heard their reporter was creaming his pants with Martin O’Neill.

[waterboy11]

Nothing will happen. They will sit on it, hope everyone will forget and just carry on.  THen in a months time they will say £2k fine to Celtic, and a promise they won't do it again.