John Findlay Posted May 22 Posted May 22 45 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Disciplinary action against the referees for Motherwell v Hearts and Motherwell v Celtic surely. The referees come under SFA jurisdiction, not the SPFL. Hence why it was the SFA who realeased a statement last Friday.
RENE Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Motherwell to be fined and censored and games behind closed doors for inadequate security.... oh wait sorry can't do that as they would have to do same to Celtic
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 The thing about this newly announced “investigation” into events at the Celtic V Hearts game is that the SPFL/SFA can drag this out, way past the CL draw date. Meaning, if there was any chance (however remote) in our planned course of action to have Celtic stripped of the title, it would have to be put on hold until the aforementioned ongoing “investigation” had concluded. Because you cannot escalate disputes to CAS et al until all appeals/complaints avenues have been exhausted through the complainants own governing bodies. Neat.
Saint Jambo Posted May 22 Posted May 22 42 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Dont see anything wrong with this, do we not want an investigation, got to behave like adults ourselves I think the fact that one of the games happened 3 weeks ago makes it looks like everything and the kitchen sink is being thrown into the mix to dilute the focus on the Celtic game. How often do they wait 3 weeks to start a disciplinary process?
N Lincs Jambo Posted May 22 Posted May 22 57 minutes ago, Erik said: Why isn’t Kilmarnock vs Celtic on the list? Total waste of time. Celtic will say they took reasonable measures and did all they could etc etc etc sweep sweep sweep etc etc etc It could be that Kilmarnock v Celtic was one of the matches in this part of the statement. The remaining five are covered by the bottom part: In season 2025/26 the SPFL concluded 11 disciplinary processes against eight clubs for such incidents. These statistics do not include the final match days of the season and the SPFL can confirm that the following matches are being investigated under SPFL Rules H36 and H37:
IanF86 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Wee slap on the wrist coming the way of CFC. Until you start implementing point deductions for mass pitch invasions, they will keep happening.
vegas-voss Posted May 22 Posted May 22 45 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Celtic will just say we had adequate policing and stewarding in place and nothing will be done. Aye they had enough it's just that they were all in front of the Hearts fans As for Motherwell they will take the rap for the pricks invading their pitch.
gjcc Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, IanF86 said: Wee slap on the wrist coming the way of CFC. Until you start implementing point deductions for mass pitch invasions, they will keep happening. A slap n the wrist that will kiss and end up a pat on the back.
Jambo61 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, HMFC01 said: Hmm, what about Kilmarnock v Celtic. I do believe their players entered an away stand. Caused a pitch invasion. Possibly another game at Dundee, can't remember, might be wrong. They caused another pitch invasion. No cards for that or top removal.....yet we get immediate cards!
RENE Posted May 22 Posted May 22 14 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: An expert POV And from a Celtic man also.
Zico Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Victorian said: Maybe I'm just off my chump but maybe the instance at Celtic Park could have been avoided if the instance at Fir Park had been adequately dealt with in prompt, reasonable and responsible time. Fir Park was 9 days ago. And nothing was said about it until now. Since then we've seen a far worse incident. Maybe if those arseholes didn't move at the pace of tectonic plates then shit might be avoided. Like Celtic being forced to use hundreds of security staff and police to protect their pitch? I’ve wondered all along if Hearts angle was duty of care by the SFPL/SFA given the pitch invasions at Fir Park and Ibrox, the lack of action after both games, combined with the lack of adequate security at Parkhead, all leading to assaults on our players.
PHSCAndy Posted May 22 Posted May 22 In a nutshell Appeasement/Smokescreen tactics for the benefit of UEFA.
Tommy Brown Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Erik said: Why isn’t Kilmarnock vs Celtic on the list? Total waste of time. Celtic will say they took reasonable measures and did all they could etc etc etc sweep sweep sweep etc etc etc It will be May only. At least M'well v Celtic is on there as it's conveniently overlooked as another abandoned match.
Scott980612 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 If there isn’t sufficient action taken , we’ll continue to see pitch invasions next season. A slap on the wrist is the probable outcome and an utter disgrace
Victorian Posted May 22 Posted May 22 10 minutes ago, Zico said: I’ve wondered all along if Hearts angle was duty of care by the SFPL/SFA given the pitch invasions at Fir Park and Ibrox, the lack of action after both games, combined with the lack of adequate security at Parkhead, all leading to assaults on our players. Hearts are fully obligated to pursue the duty of care strand. The players and staff are our employees. It's an odd situation. We have a legal duty to them. But have no control over safety arrangements playing away from home. For me the legal duty has to be taken on by the SPFL in some way. That's safer ground for us to pursue outside of football and CAS. The football authorities have no legal powers to prevent employment laws from taking a hand. The law sits above the private members' club.
Spellczech Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Judging by the OF Cup game they just announce these then do nothing, right?
Ron Burgundy Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, Spellczech said: Judging by the OF Cup game they just announce these then do nothing, right? Give them a chance mate, they will be working tirelessly behind the scenes, to cover everything up. Once that is done they will let us know.
Footballfirst Posted May 22 Posted May 22 The outcomes for SPFL disciplinary incidents that occurred around the the end of season 2024/25 were not announced until after the start of the following season. Don't hold your breath for any meaningful sanction given what the SPFL has imposed previously. As Roger Mitchell alludes to in his tweets above, he had enormous conflicts of interest when acting as prosecutor, judge and jury, all the while needing to keep the OF onside for commercial deals https://spfl.co.uk/news/disciplinary-outcomes-aberdeen-celtic-and-partic#:~:text=A suspended sanction of the,at Firhill in any SPFL
indianajones Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Three times including the cup game vs the Rangers. Points deduction. There is no other decent outcome.
lou Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, indianajones said: Three times including the cup game vs the Rangers. Points deduction. There is no other decent outcome. That was a cup games so not part of the investigation, however what about Rugby Park in September?
number-16 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 I can't quickly find when this investigation was announced But the pyro incidents last season announced sanctions in August - https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/15183558/celtic-stadium-closure-spfl-aberdeen-partick-thistle-pyro/
jamboozy Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Let’s all stand in a circle and point the blame on the guy on the left. ****ing tin pot doesn’t cover it.
John Findlay Posted May 22 Posted May 22 31 minutes ago, Victorian said: Hearts are fully obligated to pursue the duty of care strand. The players and staff are our employees. It's an odd situation. We have a legal duty to them. But have no control over safety arrangements playing away from home. For me the legal duty has to be taken on by the SPFL in some way. That's safer ground for us to pursue outside of football and CAS. The football authorities have no legal powers to prevent employment laws from taking a hand. The law sits above the private members' club. That's all good and well. We are dealing with Two organisations and a football club(I use the term loosely) who firmly believe they are above the laws of the land.
meekie Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: An expert POV Regardless of Derek McInnes suppposedly agreeing that he was happy to end the match it doesn't change the fact the pitch invasion by fans, celtic subs and coaching staff ended the match prematurely. This is a fact and captured for all to see even without audio. I can't see how that can be argued against in any court of law. I would have thought that Tony and Co would have lawyers all over this. I would love to see Celtic stripped of their VAR tainted title and the SFA brought under investigation by UEFA. The SFA are the real embrassment here and are at the heart of the corruption in Scotland. They must look like an absolute circus to most of their peers around World Football. Rip it up and start again.
bloomtime Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said: "and a level of international interest in Scottish football not seen before in the SPFL era. " They have killed that interest off quickly. Interest has become ridicule. They wont be back, they now know the outcome. You only fools neutrals once. Tinpot and insular as f**** Caused by one club only making it interesting ruined by another club and tinpot weegie mafia.
Victorian Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: That's all good and well. We are dealing with Two organisations and a football club(I use the term loosely) who firmly believe they are above the laws of the land. The SPFL and SFA might like to exist under the principles of being private clubs but the law can be employed to give them a rude awakening. How do we enforce looking after our obligations to our employees? Only via the law. I might even be tempted to concoct a bit of litigation within the club to force the situation (after establishing the club isn't liable). Let's see the rats scurrying when the legal papers start to arrive in the post.
meekie Posted May 22 Posted May 22 24 minutes ago, number-16 said: I can't quickly find when this investigation was announced But the pyro incidents last season announced sanctions in August - https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/15183558/celtic-stadium-closure-spfl-aberdeen-partick-thistle-pyro/ "As a result, the SPFL have hit the Hoops with a SUSPENDED reduction of 200 tickets in the area of the stadium where the display took place for one home match." In otherwords no appetite to punish at all. For me strict liability should be forced on all clubs by the government.
Maroonjam Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: I look forward to the outcome which will be Celtic handed a £2,000 fine which is suspended for 12 months. Almost feel like they have chucked the other matches in at the same time to investigate to try minimise the punishment (these games all had pitch invasions so all games will get the same punishment (ignoring the severeness of the one at Celtic Park.) And it misses the Motherwell celtic game, misses the old firm game from months ago. Embarrassing
Montgomery Brewster Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Nothing to see here. 2026 version of “over exuberance “. Move along now. absolute ***** !
HeartsCobra Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: Guaranteed they will try and fine Frankie for stamping on that gimps phone. If so. We should crowdfund the fine 100% And 100%
Graham Thomson Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Guaranteed we get a fine for failing to meet our media obligations after the Celtic game 🤦😞 I'm joking 😀 but you never know!!!
Jambof3tornado Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Higher attendance per capita but cant get a TV deal. WE created the interest and THEY fiddled to ensure one team benefited. **** your investigation. Always meaningless if celtic or rangers being looked at.
Dennis Law Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Absolute smoke screen. We are not going to get anything out of this. An investigation will take months to complete with a load of crap findings that will make recommendations for the future and ignore past events. In the meantime it will take people of the scent of the real issue Corrupt match officials. When are they going to announce an investigation into that?
Spellczech Posted May 22 Posted May 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Dont see anything wrong with this, do we not want an investigation, got to behave like adults ourselves We want an investigation into the refereeing and VAR decisions at the last 2 games of the season at Fir Park...I doubt the SPFL will consider that the officials and VAR gifting Celtic a non-penalty was the direct cause for the pitch invasion which followed its conversion... Edited May 22 by Spellczech
Ex member of the SaS Posted May 22 Posted May 22 They are at it. Including other clubs in the investigation is a smoke screen to cover all Celtic fans have done. Lets not forget the other clubs fans went onto the pitch AFTER the final whistle and did not interfere with procedings.
Forrest Posted May 22 Posted May 22 3 hours ago, Erik said: Why isn’t Kilmarnock vs Celtic on the list? Total waste of time. Celtic will say they took reasonable measures and did all they could etc etc etc sweep sweep sweep etc etc etc Celtic did indeed take all reasonable measures. Other than revoking the ban on the very section of supporters most likely to misbehave 🙄 They literally took action which made it more likely that our players' safety would be placed in jeopardy! 3 hours ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said: Here are the rules they refer to… H37.2 Supporters identified and banned. Check. ☑️ H37.3 Supporters readmitted to stadium. Err... 3 hours ago, Gorgiewave said: It's interesting that H30.4 prohibits expression of opposition to banned terrorist groups. Presumably as showing opposition might encourage other fans to show support? 3 hours ago, gt136 said: Meant 14 years 23 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: maybe 10 years? Yep. Happened on my sister's 30th birthday, and she turned 40 yesterday!
Ex member of the SaS Posted May 22 Posted May 22 3 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said: "and a level of international interest in Scottish football not seen before in the SPFL era. " They have killed that interest off quickly. Interest has become ridicule. They wont be back, they now know the outcome. You only fools neutrals once. Tinpot and insular as f**** Said this before many times. The whole world now knows the corruption the GFA said didn't exist in Scotland. The whole world watched with bated breath to see for themselves just how stupid and corrupt the GFA are. Another title means little to Celtic other than it takes them past the other butt cheek. Whereas had we won it ( which we did ) everyone of the neutrals around the world would be celebrating with us. It would also have shown the other teams that winning is there for the taking thus increasing competition and helping the bigot twins in European comps. They moan about being reffed fairly in Europe and can't compete, now they know why.
Percival King Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 hours ago, RENE said: Motherwell to be fined and censored and games behind closed doors for inadequate security.... oh wait sorry can't do that as they would have to do same to Celtic Motherwell should be fined for selling tickets for seats where you can't see one set of goals.
Ex member of the SaS Posted May 22 Posted May 22 30 minutes ago, Spellczech said: We want an investigation into the refereeing and VAR decisions at the last 2 games of the season at Fir Park...I doubt the SPFL will consider that the officials and VAR gifting Celtic a non-penalty was the direct cause for the pitch invasion which followed its conversion... This is what I have been on about. WE should have said something before the final game. Too late now as they will ignore it and back their officials. We should be making it clear we will not accept these officials next season. Sevco did this so why can't we?
vworpvworp Posted May 22 Posted May 22 This seems like one hell of a smokescreen. I've looked into the other matches listed - ICT v Accies did end up in a mass brawl right enough, so fair enough. Stenny had a small pitch invasion to celebrate promotion. The only source I found talking about this? A Celtic supporters page on Facebook. Can't see any evidence of a pitch invasion at all at Accies v Clyde. Found one photo of a flare being set off. Are they going to investigate every flare now? So as far as I can tell they are investigating 4 matches for pitch invasions and 1 for a flare being set off. Which conveniently allows them to accuse Accies of being involved in as many investigations as Celtic. COOL!
Baxfee Posted May 22 Posted May 22 They’ll probably fine hearts for leaving without doing media interviews!
RS86 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Pitch invasion on two seperate occasions. Point deduction and fine 👀. Lets see.
Quint Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Maybe being too paranoid but This is a sly political move against Hearts by SPFL to investigate a load of other clubs. Hearts quite rightly push for investigation into Celtic game. SPFL decide after initial review they cannot just look at one game given several pitch incursions. Many of them could probably be omitted as they were post final whistle or so small they could restart but grouped with a more serious event. Dilutes impact of investigation because , well, it’s a common occurrence to come on the pitch in Scottish football. All the time other clubs are pissed off at Hearts for pushing for enquiry into their minor pitch incursions which have been tolerated for years. In reality a pitch invasion which caused abandonment is a different level of event
pettigrewsstylist Posted May 22 Posted May 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Said this before many times. The whole world now knows the corruption the GFA said didn't exist in Scotland. The whole world watched with bated breath to see for themselves just how stupid and corrupt the GFA are. Another title means little to Celtic other than it takes them past the other butt cheek. Whereas had we won it ( which we did ) everyone of the neutrals around the world would be celebrating with us. It would also have shown the other teams that winning is there for the taking thus increasing competition and helping the bigot twins in European comps. They moan about being reffed fairly in Europe and can't compete, now they know why. Its about Uefa ££££. Thats wjy MoN phoned Collum and told him to wise up or else, and nothing was said. Greed and curruption. SPFL isnt worth tuppence to serious sponsors now. Bargepole, touch, wouldnt. Edited May 22 by pettigrewsstylist
pettigrewsstylist Posted May 22 Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, Quint said: Maybe being too paranoid but This is a sly political move against Hearts by SPFL to investigate a load of other clubs. Hearts quite rightly push for investigation into Celtic game. SPFL decide after initial review they cannot just look at one game given several pitch incursions. Many of them could probably be omitted as they were post final whistle or so small they could restart but grouped with a more serious event. Dilutes impact of investigation because , well, it’s a common occurrence to come on the pitch in Scottish football. All the time other clubs are pissed off at Hearts for pushing for enquiry into their minor pitch incursions which have been tolerated for years. In reality a pitch invasion which caused abandonment is a different level of event None of this will stop them being openly ridiculed across the globe.....
Angel eyes Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Investigate the pitch invasions involving the scum Celtic but let’s take in other games to make it look as though it’s a Scottish football issue , no it’s a Celtic problem it’s their mhank support nail them no Clyde or Ross county
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