Kyzi pen

[EH11 2NL]

It cannot go forgotten that the foul on Kyzi last weekend being given as a penalty, wins us the league. 

[MattyK82]

Will haunt me for years.

[Gambo]

We got an apology so everything is fine👍🤪

[Thranduill]

I hope Steven McLean has a very warm reception the next time we're unlucky enough to get him.

[Maple Leaf]

40 minutes ago, EH11 2NL said:

It cannot go forgotten that the foul on Kyzi last weekend being given as a penalty, wins us the league. 

All part of the plan.  History books will record yet another Celtic title, and all the dodgy bullshit of the last week will be forgotten.

 

Just like 1986, except this year the shenanigans didn't happen on the last day.

[SectionN]

6 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

All part of the plan.  History books will record yet another Celtic title, and all the dodgy bullshit of the last week will be forgotten.

 

Just like 1986, except this year the shenanigans didn't happen on the last day.

This. Cheated 

[Shankland31]

Do not let Celtic fans gaslight you into thinking we lost this league through a series of unfortunate events. It is the most scandalous robbery of all time in world football. Corruption in front of your eyes. We had it in both hands 

[Hans Eskilsson]

3 hours ago, Thranduill said:

I hope Steven McLean has a very warm reception the next time we're unlucky enough to get him.

I think for his own sake he won’t be at Tynecastle for a while. 
 

Him and Beaton should never referee again.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Just now, Hans Eskilsson said:

I think for his own sake he won’t be at Tynecastle for a while. 
 

Him and Beaton should never referee again.

And Gollum should be dismissed from his job. However, the deflection from SFA HQ will be coming fast and strong.

[HeartsCobra]

The title should have been won by Hearts on Wednesday 13 May 2026.

 

All the contentious decisions in fixtures 36 and 37 went in favour of celtic and that denied Hearts the league title.

 

It’s a cesspit.

 

 

Steven Maclean

John Beaton

Andrew Dallas

[Hans Eskilsson]

8 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

And Gollum should be dismissed from his job. However, the deflection from SFA HQ will be coming fast and strong.

I feel very bitter about the whole thing. Angry actually. 
 

They’ve taken what would have been special memories from us all. 
 

I’ve never forgotten Andy Davis and I’ll never forget these 3.

 

I’ll crack open a beer each time one of them eventually passes away in celebration. 
 

 

[pettigrewsstylist]

Despite being called over by VAR.

The other one that occurred whilst ref had something in his eye, and all VAR were at the toilet, was really unfortunate concidence.

[TheBigO]

6 hours ago, EH11 2NL said:

It cannot go forgotten that the foul on Kyzi last weekend being given as a penalty, wins us the league. 

Amongst all furore and fallout from yesterdays assualt,this actually needs to be the lead story from the media. But wont be.

 

Longelo handball

Kyzi penalty

Johnson red card

Nicholson handball

Scales red card elbow

 

Just one of those goes our way, its somewhere between very likely and definite we'd won the league on Wed or went into yesterday with +6gd.

 

Caveat is we get Longelo penalty, Johnson gets red, Scales gets red, none of them give a definite result of course with a lot of game left but the likelihood increases massively. The Kyzi one all but guarantees the result. Nicholson 100%)

 

And i use the language "went our way". Thats not correct actually. We dont want favours. We're talking about had they been CORRECT CALLS.

[HeartsCobra]

58 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

Amongst all furore and fallout from yesterdays assualt,this actually needs to be the lead story from the media. But wont be.

 

Longelo handball

Kyzi penalty

Johnson red card

Nicholson handball

Scales red card elbow

 

Just one of those goes our way, its somewhere between very likely and definite we'd won the league on Wed or went into yesterday with +6gd.

 

Caveat is we get Longelo penalty, Johnson gets red, Scales gets red, none of them give a definite result of course with a lot of game left but the likelihood increases massively. The Kyzi one all but guarantees the result. Nicholson 100%)

 

And i use the language "went our way". Thats not correct actually. We dont want favours. We're talking about had they been CORRECT CALLS.

 

Well said.

 

This list is where the focus should be. 

 

You could add the Celtic offside goal vs rangers.

 

“[If] just one of those went our way” – Simply swap to “If just one of those was refereed correctly”

 

 

Edited May 17 by HeartsCobra

[TheBigO]

16 minutes ago, HeartsCobra said:

 

Well said.

 

This list is where the focus should be. 

 

You could add the Celtic offside goal vs rangers.

 

“[If] just one of those went our way” – Simply swap to “If just one of those was refereed correctly”

 

 

I do disagree on that. Id want a goal for that.

 

But it does highlight a difference. That was subjective - we can agree/disagree. The rest are set in stone easy decisions somehow made incorrectly 

[Sarah O]

I hate to be sounding like a moon howler conspiracy theorist. 

 

But.

 

Those penalty decisions at Fir Park did indeed cost us the title. 

 

Absolutely infuriating. 

[Byyy The Light]

I’ve not watched it back and never will but I’m pretty sure Johnson should’ve had minimum 3 yellows yesterday and still remained on the pitch.

 

Genuinely think I might be done with this whole thing. Scunnered. 

[HeartsCobra]

9 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

I do disagree on that. Id want a goal for that.

 

But it does highlight a difference. That was subjective - we can agree/disagree. The rest are set in stone easy decisions somehow made incorrectly 

 

I think offside, like handball, comes down to the rules.

 

My interpretation is there were three Celtic players standing in offside positions, while one of them in particular was clearly standing in front of the goalkeeper, between him and the ball, impacting his view of play and the imminent shot. To me that’s interfering with play.

 

[Philfigo]

This would have changed the whole title race! We would have been 6 clear and that Old Firm game would have had massive massive pressure on Celtic. Instead that decision not to give us the pen gave Celtic all the momentum! This was the start of the blatant cheating to make sure they had there shot of the title on the last game at home. A game that we should not have been playing away from home. Last game should have been at Tynecastle not against Celtic but either Falkirk or Rangers. It’s been a complete stitch up from the time they announced the split fixtures. We have been stupid enough to think they would give us a fair crack at it!

[Another Robbo]

Agree with OP - yesterday was a league winning score for us were it not for wrong decisions in the previous two games. Feel absolutely cheated.

[Gambo]

19 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

I do disagree on that. Id want a goal for that.

 

But it does highlight a difference. That was subjective - we can agree/disagree. The rest are set in stone easy decisions somehow made incorrectly 

Easy decisions to make in real time, but to get them so wrong, with the aid of technology is criminal.

To have so many decisions in such a short space of time all going the way of one team would be investigated anywhere else. 
Media here are not interested though.

[1953]

I have no problem with the result yesterday. The penalty was a penalty and the second goal wasn't offside but decisions in the last two rounds of games have robbed us of the title and there is nothing that can shake that thought from my head. There were lots of contentious decisions in the last week but if either of the three penalties at Fir Park, 2 we didn't get and one that Celtic did, went in our favour we would now be league champions.

[TheBigO]

20 minutes ago, Gambo said:

Easy decisions to make in real time, but to get them so wrong, with the aid of technology is criminal.

To have so many decisions in such a short space of time all going the way of one team would be investigated anywhere else. 
Media here are not interested though.

Imagine this happened in the EPL. Itd be discussed in Westminster. It would be the only story across all back pages for weeks and make many front pages 

 

Our news has been more around the fallout than the decisions. Not really seen any piece in mainstream actually focusing on the 5 or so key decisions which swayed this. Thats the story. We can't let it fade 

[part_time_jambo]

4 hours ago, Hans Eskilsson said:

I think for his own sake he won’t be at Tynecastle for a while. 
 

Him and Beaton should never referee again.

When Beaton retires, and I hope it's soon, he will write a book and say that he knew it wasn't a penalty for Celtic against Motherwell, but was too afraid not to give it or something along those lines.

[John Findlay]

8 hours ago, EH11 2NL said:

It cannot go forgotten that the foul on Kyzi last weekend being given as a penalty, wins us the league. 

Only if we scored it.

[Gambo]

11 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said:

When Beaton retires, and I hope it's soon, he will write a book and say that he knew it wasn't a penalty for Celtic against Motherwell, but was too afraid not to give it or something along those lines.

Tbh, I can see a few referees jacking it in this summer.

[Fitzroy Pointon]

2 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Despite being called over by VAR.

The other one that occurred whilst ref had something in his eye, and all VAR were at the toilet, was really unfortunate concidence.

 

Hate to be that guy, but the Motherwell pic is doctored. Look at the Hearts shirt. That said, it was still a handball, it was just a bit further up. 

[Neptune]

13 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said:

When Beaton retires, and I hope it's soon, he will write a book and say that he knew it wasn't a penalty for Celtic against Motherwell, but was too afraid not to give it or something along those lines.

Beaton can never redeem himself but if he acted like a whistleblower it would be good.

[Cruyff]

John Beaton won Celtic the league

[busby10]

5 hours ago, Shankland31 said:

Do not let Celtic fans gaslight you into thinking we lost this league through a series of unfortunate events. It is the most scandalous robbery of all time in world football. Corruption in front of your eyes. We had it in both hands 

1986 haunted me,I’m absolutely haunted now ,cheated on both by the same scum.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Sarah O said:

I hate to be sounding like a moon howler conspiracy theorist. 

 

But.

 

Those penalty decisions at Fir Park did indeed cost us the title. 

 

Absolutely infuriating. 

A conspiracy is a secret, the corruption in Scottish football is now known to anyone who cares all over the world.

[Gordon Ramsay]

John Beaton and Steven McLean should never be allowed in the vicinity of Tynecastle again.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, HeartsCobra said:

 

I think offside, like handball, comes down to the rules.

 

My interpretation is there were three Celtic players standing in offside positions, while one of them in particular was clearly standing in front of the goalkeeper, between him and the ball, impacting his view of play and the imminent shot. To me that’s interfering with play.

 

Spot on, the guy is blocking the GKs view. 
When Rangers aren’t getting these decisions you know it was preordained that Celtic would win the league, to stop us.

[Pasquale for King]

42 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

Imagine this happened in the EPL. Itd be discussed in Westminster. It would be the only story across all back pages for weeks and make many front pages 

 

Our news has been more around the fallout than the decisions. Not really seen any piece in mainstream actually focusing on the 5 or so key decisions which swayed this. Thats the story. We can't let it fade 

Indeed, SSN just had some weegie Celtic ***** that works for the Sun on who tried his best to dampen any controversy surrounding the dodgy refereeing decisions. 

[Tynecastle Valhalla]

The longelo handball was worse 

[Coco]

Presumably Walsh for the cup final.  Beaton and MacLean 4th official and Var.  Then they get to slide out of football the same way as Andy Davies did

[RosscoC]

Not that it matters but I was sure the ball was rolling about when McGregor took the free-kick in the build up. Maybe imagined it. 

[Deevers]

1 hour ago, 1953 said:

I have no problem with the result yesterday. The penalty was a penalty and the second goal wasn't offside but decisions in the last two rounds of games have robbed us of the title and there is nothing that can shake that thought from my head. There were lots of contentious decisions in the last week but if either of the three penalties at Fir Park, 2 we didn't get and one that Celtic did, went in our favour we would now be league champions.

This 100%. 

[manaliveits105]

5 hours ago, HeartsCobra said:

The title should have been won by Hearts on Wednesday 13 May 2026.

 

All the contentious decisions in fixtures 36 and 37 went in favour of celtic and that denied Hearts the league title.

 

It’s a cesspit.

 

 

Steven Maclean

John Beaton

Andrew Dallas

Correct they should be removed they are either corrupt or just not up to the job 

[manaliveits105]

Let’s not forget Johnson should have been off in first half - Robertson and Clancy hard at it too 

[stirlo]

The Kyzi penalty is a penalty in terms of the rules as they are. But the handball rule needs to be changed as I'm pretty sure the vast majority of players, fans and managers would agree it's complete nonsense as it currently stands. It would be so much simpler if penalties were only given for clearly deliberate handballs and it would stop VAR getting involved all the time. 

[CM Funk]

It should be said from a devils advocate point of view there was no guarantee we score if a penalty is given of course. Also from a DA point of view we dropped 11 points to the bottom 3 teams and only one of those games (draw to St. Mirren away) did it seem like we were lucky to get what we got. Every other game against Killie, St. Mirren and Livi we should’ve won and it’s our own fault we didn’t. Could throw the loss to Aberdeen and draw with Dundee United in there too. Obviously no team is entitled to win but the squads and teams available on all of those match days should have had us winning.

 

BUT - that being said - the overturning of VAR for us against Motherwell and the ludicrous involvement of VAR for Celtic against Motherwell tells be there was at the very least unconscious bias at play. Not necessarily Celtic leaning or favouring officials, but the thoughts in the back of their minds for each of those decisions was about how Celtic and their fans would make a deal out of it. No one can convince me otherwise. McLean was brought to VAR and in the back of his mind he’s thinking of O’Neill, the Celtic board, the ‘outrage’ and accusations from Celtic fans if he gives it. So he sticks to his original call screwing us in the process. Likewise Beaton. I actually feel he was put in an impossible situation by his VAR assistant. It wasn’t a penalty but if he’s brought over and doesn’t give it you’ll have the 55 times champions, multiple 9 in a row on a current roll of 5 in a row with 14 of the last 15 titles fans claiming conspiracy again. The same fans that made him and his family have police protection a few years ago. In those circumstances what choice did he have really? But whoever was on VAR saw what they wanted to. Even if they saw it as a handball then they need to check the phase of play and all they needed to do was check the throw in and it was a foul throw. So Beaton was sent to VAR because his VAR assistant was looking for anything. I’m sure whoever that was won’t need to buy a pint in certain parts of Glasgow ever again.

Edited May 17 by CM Funk

[indianajones]

Yep. Cheating *******s. 

 

At least we got an apology though eh so all good. 

[LochcarronJambo]

5 hours ago, Shankland31 said:

Do not let Celtic fans gaslight you into thinking we lost this league through a series of unfortunate events. It is the most scandalous robbery of all time in world football. Corruption in front of your eyes. We had it in both hands 

Spot on, had the rules of the game, in particular the games in the last week, been adhered to, we would be champions

[pettigrewsstylist]

1 hour ago, Philfigo said:

This would have changed the whole title race! We would have been 6 clear and that Old Firm game would have had massive massive pressure on Celtic. Instead that decision not to give us the pen gave Celtic all the momentum! This was the start of the blatant cheating to make sure they had there shot of the title on the last game at home. A game that we should not have been playing away from home. Last game should have been at Tynecastle not against Celtic but either Falkirk or Rangers. It’s been a complete stitch up from the time they announced the split fixtures. We have been stupid enough to think they would give us a fair crack at it!

It was about setting the conditions for any Celtic win yesterday being enough, in case we didnt stumble en route.

Set up started weeks ago. 

How many concidences do people need 🤦‍♂️

[PortyJambo]

I mostly agree that the non award of a penalty for Kyzi cost us the league but, to play devil's advocate, there was still a lot of time left in that game from that incident or even from the handball incidents. There is no guarantee that the rest of the game would have played out as it did with Motherwell not scoring, even if we'd scored the penalty. A goal to take us 2-1 up, although I think we wouldn't have conceded again, change the complexion of the rest of the game.

 

The Celtic penalty against Motherwell with 20 seconds to go is clear cut though. If they'd done as they should have and not awarded it, the game was over. There was no time left for anything else to happen in the game after the penalty. That on it's own would have won us the league. 

[Hans Eskilsson]

1 hour ago, Gambo said:

Tbh, I can see a few referees jacking it in this summer.

Good, we need a clear out 

[Pingu]

Personally, I don't believe there is a literal conspiracy where the SFA and the league get together and decide to defraud Hearts of the title. But I think the reality is just as toxic.

When McLean went to the screen he knew he could stick with his decision if he wanted to. Whether he wanted to screw Hearts or just thought it wasn't a pen, we'll never know. But we know for certain that Beaton had absolutely no choice when he went to the screen. Imagine the fallout? He and his family would never be safe again.
 

So not only are Celtic not adequately punished for scenes like yesterday's, they are actually rewarded. And their club officials, managers and players all play a part in allowing it to happen.

[132goals1958]

50 minutes ago, PortyJambo said:

I mostly agree that the non award of a penalty for Kyzi cost us the league but, to play devil's advocate, there was still a lot of time left in that game from that incident or even from the handball incidents. There is no guarantee that the rest of the game would have played out as it did with Motherwell not scoring, even if we'd scored the penalty. A goal to take us 2-1 up, although I think we wouldn't have conceded again, change the complexion of the rest of the game.

 

The Celtic penalty against Motherwell with 20 seconds to go is clear cut though. If they'd done as they should have and not awarded it, the game was over. There was no time left for anything else to happen in the game after the penalty. That on it's own would have won us the league. 

You can never determine how the game will pan out or indeed if the penalties would be converted but there is no doubt it would have put us in a strong position, We are all emotionally invested in the club and I genuinely believe over the last round round of fixtures  we have been seriously short changed, I am still angry at what has been total incompetence or perhaps something more sinister in the games between us Celtic and Motherwell . The Longelo handball was totally dismissed out of hand ( excuse the pun ) ! So effectively the referee and three officials were unanimous! The ball hit his arm following a deliberate movement but not one of the four saw anything amiss! Contrast that with the penalty yesterday when the ball was fired against the hand. Whilst I don’t agree with the current interpretation it is a penalty and I would have been screaming for it at the other end. In comparable terms the two offences were not too dissimilar in terms of severity, Now the crumbs of comfort where the Kyzi penalty claim was a decision of 2 1 in our favour or an even interpretation if you take the match official decision in account. Anybody see a recurring theme here. Now the fictitious Sam Nicholson handball which every man and his dug outwith Celtic and the usual suspects have in some instances deemed the worst var call ever. Apparently Willie Collum is backing the referee, Now the only reason I can see he doesn’t want to throw John Beaton to the wolves which considering the West of Scotland malaise might be a possible reason. For the sake of transparency however is this panel ( even if the names are kept under wraps ) going to give there decision on whether it was a penalty. In the aftermath of yesterday we deserve an explanation as it irrefutably cost us the league and potentially millions of pounds. The penalty incident was the last action of the game so no procrastination. If there in no explanation Collum should resign. Just saying he backs his referee won’t cut it.

[Morgan]

Both the highly suspect penalty decisions made at Fir Park, were the defining points in our season.

 

Both were wrong, blatantly wrong and blatantly cheating to achieve the goal that the SFA so much sought.