BigStein Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: 2 different stories here. 1)Threats against his family are wrong. Leaking address was wrong. And someone has been arrested already I guess for that action. 2) If a man is a proven cheat and is corruptly acting to ensure a multi million pound business prospers to the detriment of a smaller competing business, then he will most likely find himself feeling stressed, insecure and threatened. That is entirely on his head for the way he has acted. The attempt to portray him as an innocent victim is shameless and wrong. At the moment, there is no evidence of threats, just a childish deflection statement from his corrupt and cheating employers. That may change on coming days of course but I'll hold fire till evidence is presented. Thanks for that I thought I was going mad. There doesn’t seem to be any claims that threats have been made towards John Beaton
kila Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) Surprised the statement didn't also blame FIFA for this as they chose not to select any Scottish refs for the World Cup. Edited May 15 by kila
79points Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, OTT said: Steve Conroy^ It is fact they are allowed to continue to make mistakes that come with massive consequences for the fans, clubs and players involved. Had we had an EPL referee at Motherwell for both of the last two games, Hearts would have won the league against Falkirk. It is that simple. The SFA releasing ridiculous punitive statements will not change the fact that the over whelming majority of people think something is wrong. You would think they would acknowledge that this is unhealthy and needs sorted out, but no, they choose to self serve and protect their agenda and status quo with an awful statement. DISGUSTING!
Captain Lithuania Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Rumour has it that police Scotland have been asked to monitor VAR tomorrow Got to be a wind up.
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Robertson just cannot give anything to Celtic tomorrow unless he is 100% sure.
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Rumour has it that police Scotland have been asked to monitor VAR tomorrow That can’t be right.
Francis Albert Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Gary Lineker and the many other neutrals who know a bit about the game are painted as akin to terrorists for what they said about some indefencable decisions.
7NationArmy Posted May 15 Posted May 15 9 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said: Really stupid point I picked up on in that statement. Claiming that players misses sitters or own goals are the same as refereeing errors is not the same thing. Players can't replay a chance they missed in a game but referees can have things replayed to them i.e. VAR, the thing that was supposed to help eradicate these errors. Not only that but if said player CONTINUES to miss 5 yards out week in/week out, or the keeper CONTINUES to make mistakes resulting in goals, they'll be dropped, not played, left to run out the contract and out a job. I hope FOH reach out to other supporters clubs and seek unity in this, for the Scottish game. There's 0 accountability in their actions, their statement and their complacency. Their inadequacies need challenged
boag1874 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Go **** yourselves you dirty cheating cowardly gaslighting shower of *****. I condemn people going after referees safety but to try and turn this round on those who are calling that farcical decision out for what it is is an utter disgrace.
El Prez Posted May 15 Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Rumour has it that police Scotland have been asked to monitor VAR tomorrow That's satire? Please.
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 15 Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, Morgan said: Robertson just cannot give anything to Celtic tomorrow unless he is 100% sure. That's a big statement. I'd say Robertson should not give anything to anyone tomorrow unless he is 100% sure. Trouble is, I'm not sure he will act honestly.
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: That's a big statement. I'd say Robertson should not give anything to anyone tomorrow unless he is 100% sure. Trouble is, I'm not sure he will act honestly. Yes, obviously my ‘100% sure’ statement goes for both teams, but I feel that everybody and their dog will be looking more closely at decisions awarded to the Tims.
Skacel_stole_the_show Posted May 15 Posted May 15 “We are also clear, sadly, that this is the inevitable consequence of the heightening criticism, intolerance and scapegoating demonstrated this season by media pundits, supporters, official supporters' groups, clubs, players, managers and former match officials”. So basically everyone connected to football is criticising them for their incompetence and ineptitude but we are all wrong. Gotcha.
SecN Posted May 15 Posted May 15 The SFA have lacked the ability to read the room for decades. Statement today is just the cherry on top.
Moderators JKBMod 3 Posted May 15 Moderators Posted May 15 Can I remind members of Rule 13. Thanks 13. Do not encourage, condone, or attempt to justify criminal activity and do not encourage, condone, or attempt to justify violence.
Quando, Quando, Quando Posted May 15 Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, Doc Rob said: Is it just me who thinks this is a rushed statement, issued by an organisation who are severely rattled, because the corruption endemic in Scottish football has suddenly come to the attention of all sorts of people outside Scotland, who wouldn’t normally take any interest in our game? An organisation who feel their position is secure doesn’t put out a statement like that. It’s full of bluster, avoids the issue, and blames everyone but themselves. It’s a frantic attempt to deflect responsibility because everyone is watching. The behaviour of the ref team tomorrow is going to be scrutinised more heavily than ever before, by all sorts of people over whom they have no control. I suspect they will be told to be on their best behaviour (as Walsh was on Wednesday) and that can only benefit us. Totally this, Doc. I spent a good part of my working life as a media officer for a major organisation that frequently came under fire for its actions: some real, other perceived. Less is more was my always view in making a response. That SFA statement should have ended after the second paragraph.
ollie2004 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: That's a big statement. I'd say Robertson should not give anything to anyone tomorrow unless he is 100% sure. Trouble is, I'm not sure he will act honestly. I think RN had his number regarding practising with 10 men before Ibrox. Remember the Glasgow blink?
Pans Jambo Posted May 15 Posted May 15 So theyre the centre of attention again then??? “Look at meeeeee”. They can GTF
FWJ Posted May 15 Posted May 15 40 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Just to be clear, they deserve all the grief in the world, but anything even approaching threats on here will be in the Daily Record tomorrow as proof that we're the bad guys, so tread carefully. How many threats were there after the game at Fir Park on Saturday that WE were involved in and denied two stonewall penalties?
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, FWJ said: How many threats were there after the game at Fir Park on Saturday that WE were involved in and denied two stonewall penalties? Big fat zero.
OTT Posted May 15 Posted May 15 16 minutes ago, Doc Rob said: Is it just me who thinks this is a rushed statement, issued by an organisation who are severely rattled, because the corruption endemic in Scottish football has suddenly come to the attention of all sorts of people outside Scotland, who wouldn’t normally take any interest in our game? An organisation who feel their position is secure doesn’t put out a statement like that. It’s full of bluster, avoids the issue, and blames everyone but themselves. It’s a frantic attempt to deflect responsibility because everyone is watching. The behaviour of the ref team tomorrow is going to be scrutinised more heavily than ever before, by all sorts of people over whom they have no control. I suspect they will be told to be on their best behaviour (as Walsh was on Wednesday) and that can only benefit us. Completely. They're shitting themselves. They've been rumbled and the world ****ing knows.
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted May 15 Posted May 15 This reminds me of the Andy Davis incident where they are trying to deflect from what happened by creating a different story. Miko barging into him in that case.
FWJ Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, Morgan said: Big fat zero. That’s what I thought. So if the Weegia are looking in for some easy, lazy copy they might want to highlight that
tcjambo Posted May 15 Posted May 15 41 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: Just announced a man has been arrested in connection with a data protection issue. Good, then that is the problem addressed and has damn all to do with McInnes or our fans who are now at risk because of this statement. I sincerely hope he isn't a Hearts fan. If he is he needs hung, drawn and quartered.
buzzbomb1958 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 That statement looks like Gollum wrote that while snivelling and munching on his packet of crayons
...andFulton'sBaggio Posted May 15 Posted May 15 What an absolute shitshow. The SFA never fail to be utterly unprofessional, embarrassing and downright childish, do they? Their lack of self-awareness is astonishing. It's everybody else's fault! We're utterly powerless to do anything about it! We hold no sway at all! Their ineptitude reaches new levels... And what does this unchecked lashing out at all and sundry demonstrate, more clearly than ever before? That whether it be threats of violence, brown envelopes, or merely the result of their own staggering levels of incompetence, they are wholly incapable of providing a level playing field for the competition over which they preside, never mind ensuring the safety and wellbeing of the staff they employ - the staff and employees to whom they have a duty of care. They are, in short, not fit for purpose. Or, to put it more succinctly... **** the SFA!
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 15 Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, FWJ said: How many threats were there after the game at Fir Park on Saturday that WE were involved in and denied two stonewall penalties? Not surprisingly there were none. There was no leaking of his address either. I'm sure the SFA just forgot to mention that. In fact, I'm pretty sure only 2 sets of supporters have been found to have threatened a referee in recent years. Both come from Glasgow. Care to guess who they are?
...andFulton'sBaggio Posted May 15 Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said: That statement looks like Gollum wrote that while snivelling and munching on his packet of crayons 🤣🤣🤣
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Not surprisingly there were none. There was no leaking of his address either. I'm sure the SFA just forgot to mention that. In fact, I'm pretty sure only 2 sets of supporters have been found to have threatened a referee in recent years. Both come from Glasgow. Care to guess who they are? Plastic Whistle and Clyde? 😳
Malinga the Swinga Posted May 15 Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Good, then that is the problem addressed and has damn all to do with McInnes or our fans who are now at risk because of this statement. I sincerely hope he isn't a Hearts fan. If he is he needs hung, drawn and quartered. He needs punished regardless of who he supports.
...andFulton'sBaggio Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Morgan said: That statement has only endorsed their culpability. Concise as ever, Morgs
Vlad Magic Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Officials should be free to go about their lives without repercussions obviously. However. If they are shit at their jobs and are called out for being shit so be it. They chose knowing full well the potential circumstances they would be working under. Dont like it? **** off and be a traffic warden. Im sick to the back teeth of dodgy refs, blatant cheating and when they get caught with their pants down the SFA who are complicit in the cheating circle the wagons and deflect deflect deflect. Fine. Give us non OF supporting referees. Problem solved. You can’t have it both ways ya bunch of weegie *****!!
maroonsgotop Posted May 15 Posted May 15 21 minutes ago, Neptune said: Something is rotten in the park of Hampden. That's where Collum's office is located
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, ...andFulton'sBaggio said: Concise as ever, Morgs
Chairman of the Bored Posted May 15 Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, Morgan said: That statement has only endorsed their culpability.
RustyRightPeg Posted May 15 Posted May 15 The funny thing is, all of this is with decisions going FOR Celtic. Imagine the shoe was on the other foot. The SFA are rattled folks. And it’s only the start. The walls are closing in.
maroonsgotop Posted May 15 Posted May 15 22 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Gary Lineker and the many other neutrals who know a bit about the game are painted as akin to terrorists for what they said about some indefencable decisions. It's the CFA way. 'Always the Victims' 'offended by everything - ashamed of nothing'
Jack Torrance Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Looking forward to hearing what Gary Lineker and others, think about the statement directed at them.
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted May 15 Posted May 15 24 minutes ago, kila said: Surprised the statement didn't also blame FIFA for this as they chose not to select any Scottish refs for the World Cup. The country’s who are represented by officials says even more about our 3rd rate association and their minions in black than Scotland just having no representation. Embarrassing that FIFA were like… 🤔🤔 Nah!!
Portable Badger Posted May 15 Posted May 15 The SFA’s statement demonstrates their incompetence and lack of understanding. Contrary to their statement VAR is wholly there to make OBJECTIVE decisions NOT SUBJECTIVE decisions as they claim !!!!!
Morgan Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Jack Torrance said: Looking forward to hearing what Gary Lineker and others, think about the statement directed at them.
OTT Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: The funny thing is, all of this is with decisions going FOR Celtic. Imagine the shoe was on the other foot. The SFA are rattled folks. And it’s only the start. The walls are closing in. Lets hope so. This is a scandal, plain and simple. Jobs need to be lost for this.
79points Posted May 15 Posted May 15 20 minutes ago, OTT said: It wouldn't surprise me if this has happened in the manner you're describing. Quickest way to flip the narrative. The statement instantly announced that a referee was ' under surveillance ' due to leak of information. In my opinion, the author used this to set the tone and justify a premature and inappropriate announcement of rule change to suit agenda. I received this statement as a declaration of unrest and reaction to discomfort, caused by unprecedented reactions and media attention because of refereeing decisions. No player, manager, supporter or club made the decisions. No league or football association can control freedom of speech or over rule the policies of social media platforms or media outlets when content and information is legal. I just find the statement incredibly anti sport and detrimental to football, the day before one of the biggest final games of the season in football history! It does come across as though they don't like being scrutinised and criticised so they are looking to scapegoat and hit back.
glynnlondon Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Let's see what they say next time Celtic demand a meeting with referees
FWJ Posted May 15 Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Morgan said: Plastic Whistle and Clyde? 😳 Nah, Queens Park. Inside job….
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