Can we see this thru.

[JimmyCant]

5 minutes ago, daavojaay said:

We could actually  lose at motherwell and even if celtic draw at rangers. We would still.win the league at Tyne if we beat falkirk 

That’s not correct 

[JamboGraham]

22 minutes ago, 79points said:

What if we beat Falkirk and Mothwerwell and have a gd of +10 over Celtic? Do you honestly think Celtic could beat us by 6 on final day?
They haven't scored more than 4 goals in a league game all season this season, and only 2 or 3 times. 

 

All ifs, buts and maybes. I would think very unlikely they would win by 6 in the circumstance you describe. However, it would require us to do something rare as well before then, our wins are generally narrow.

 

I can totally understand the mind gymnastics of going to Celtic park 5 or 6 goals clear. An early goal for them and the pressure would be off the scale.

[hughesie27]

1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

That’s not correct 

Only if Celtic dropped points v Motherwell.

[JamboGraham]

6 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

I was 23 in 1886

 

These guys can become immortal 

 

 

Sounds like you already are!!!!

[Always the Hearts]

10 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

I was 23 in 1886 and I just enjoyed the games home and away till the last week

 

Obviously I’m 63 this year and never thought we’d get this close

 

I can’t explain it but, as stressful as the games are there’s a calmness too that these players will get the job done. The gaffer exudes it, the players look like they’ve bought into it. The whole club feels united and strong. 
All I’m thinking about is Motherwell 

 

These guys can become immortal 

 

 

You've done well to keep going. 

[daavojaay]

11 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

That’s not correct 

How we lose and they draw at rangers were 2 points ahead then if we beat falkirk. Wait ur right shit

[79points]

18 minutes ago, JamboGraham said:

 

All ifs, buts and maybes. I would think very unlikely they would win by 6 in the circumstance you describe. However, it would require us to do something rare as well before then, our wins are generally narrow.

 

I can totally understand the mind gymnastics of going to Celtic park 5 or 6 goals clear. An early goal for them and the pressure would be off the scale.

We scored 6 against Falkirk and Motherwell this season. Falkirk haven't scored against us but Motherwell have scored 4.
Neither have beaten us.
Celtic have not beaten Rangers in the league, and have lost to them 3-1.

We have beaten Rangers three times and lost to them 4-2.
Celtic have beaten Motherwell 3-2, and 3-1 but also lost to them 2-0.
Form suggests we should come out of the next two fixures with better GD and points.
1986 was a traumatic year in our history, but this is a different situation.
We should be confident given how the team are playing.
Everyone is doing their best.
MON THE HEARTS!

Edited May 5 by 79points

[Jamhammer]

21 minutes ago, Always the Hearts said:

You've done well to keep going. 

Hahaha

ill edit 😆😆😆
nah it just feels like 140 years 😆

Edited May 5 by Jamhammer

[maltese jambo]

51 minutes ago, JamboJoker98 said:

After the elation of last night, it is back to business today. We have won nothing until it mathematically is achieved so we really need to just focus on 3 points on Satuday. Another huge ask on paper but with this team man, never write them off. 

Exactly this.

 

[JamboGraham]

7 minutes ago, 79points said:

We scored 6 against Falkirk and Motherwell this season. Falkirk haven't scored against us but Motherwell have scored 4.
Neither have beaten us.
Celtic have not beaten Rangers in the league, and have lost to them 3-1.

We have beaten Rangers three times and lost to them 4-2.
Celtic have beaten Motherwell 3-2, and 3-1 but also lost to them 2-0.
Form suggests we should come out of the next two fixures with better GD and points.
1986 was a traumatic year in our history, but this is a different situation.
We should be confident given how the team are playing.
Everyone is doing their best.
MON THE HEARTS!

 

I am not disagreeing in general. But there are so many ways of looking at all of this (and no answers until we have played the games). For example our 6 goals against Motherwell have all come at Tynecastle, not at Fir Park. Our most recent against Falkirk was only 1-0, etc.

 

I honestly don't think form is such a factor anymore given the pressure, uniqueness and one off occasion of each match from here to the end.

 

This entire thing could be near enough done with two results this weekend, or the whole thing could be flipped back on it's head!

 

This is absolutely jeopardy and I am loving it, but the variables on the board are insane even with just 3 to go.

[Jack Torrance]

1 hour ago, ferenc puskas said:

In 1986 we kept thinking Celtic will drop points, and they didnt. They became almost impregnable for the last few games.

Make no mistake, they will do the same again. They will beat Rangers and they will beat Motherwell. Its in their DNA or something.

We have to beat both Motherwell and Falkirk to win this league. If we go to Parkhead on the last day 3 points and five goals clear I will believe it is done when the final whistle blows.

This is not negativity, this is the reality we should all be engaged with. If you think anything otherwise you were not at Dens Park in 1986.

 

You'll be hard pressed to find any of us who were there that day, who disagree. 

[JamboRouge]

38 minutes ago, JamboGraham said:

 

Sounds like you already are!!!!

 

[Frank Tablet]

2 hours ago, JamboRouge said:

Anyone who lived through 85-86 and says they are confident needs to readjust for reality.

 

We have given ourselves a huge chance but I for one won't be confident until it's mathematically in the bag.

 

Having suffered  63/64 and 85/86 I  am  doubling  up on the blood pressure meds until the maths is undisputable.

[79points]

3 minutes ago, JamboGraham said:

 

I am not disagreeing in general. But there are so many ways of looking at all of this (and no answers until we have played the games). For example our 6 goals against Motherwell have all come at Tynecastle, not at Fir Park. Our most recent against Falkirk was only 1-0, etc.

 

I honestly don't think form is such a factor anymore given the pressure, uniqueness and one off occasion of each match from here to the end.

 

This entire thing could be near enough done with two results this weekend, or the whole thing could be flipped back on it's head!

 

This is absolutely jeopardy and I am loving it, but the variables on the board are insane even with just 3 to go.

Yeah you are right about form out the window, but we do seem to finally be playing how we can with the second half against Rangers coming at the perfect time. Our players mindsets will be strong now.
As for pressure, we have been dealing with that better than I have ever seen before in my lifetime, and I think the pressure is actually more on Motherwell at Fir Park.
Motherwell didn't score against us at theirs and 3 of the 4 goals against us were scored early on in the 3-3 draw at Tynie.
Last time we played, we bullied them a bit in the last 15, but I understand that was at Tynie.
I read a lot of worried comments about losing to Motherwell or scraping a draw, but I think we will start scoring a few goals now.

[JamboRouge]

Just now, Frank Tablet said:

 

Having suffered  63/64 and 85/86 I  am  doubling  up on the blood pressure meds until the maths is undisputable.

 

I can imagine. Very apt username, Frank. 😎

[Frank Tablet]

1 minute ago, JamboRouge said:

 

I can imagine. Very apt username, Frank. 😎

 

So many that I rattle when I walk.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Assuming we win the title, we already have 4 previous wins, so this one will put us up to 59 (going by Sevco mathematics).

 

Edited May 5 by Joey J J Jr Shabadoo

[Doc Rob]

I’m certainly not confident. I won’t count any chickens until it’s mathematically certain. But I will say this: the games where I was most worried we would come unstuck were away v Hibs and at home v Rangers*. Having won both, I’m at least daring to hope!

[dobmisterdobster]

I'm still nervous. I do not want to have to beat Celtic at Parkhead.

[Victorian]

Celtic's late season run in 1986 is well documented.   Perhaps less remembered is that we were also on arguably our best run of the season.   In the February we drew at Celtic Park and they also quickly had draws with Dundee United (one of the best title contenders) and the famous 4-4 with Rangers.   After our draw at Celtic Park we had 5 straight wins before the Aberdeen draw (still a top side).   

 

We have won our last 3.   So have Celtic.   But they had a couple of damaging defeats just prior.   Can they win their last 4?   Of course.   But we're not incapable ourselves.   

[tiger Rudi]

Get the Motherwell game out the way and come back to me 😁

 

I'm a bag of nerves thinking Askou is gonna try and scupper us, then try and worm his way into the Celtic affections by losing against that lot. I know it's silly but what if he's in the running for the manager gig there?

 

Massive game and a very difficult one on Saturday. Win that and I will truly start to believe. 

We've beaten them before, but they did miss quite a few easy chances. 

[InternationalJambo]

One. Game. At. A. Time. 

[ferenc puskas]

1 hour ago, 79points said:

What if we beat Falkirk and Mothwerwell and have a gd of +10 over Celtic? Do you honestly think Celtic could beat us by 6 on final day?
They haven't scored more than 4 goals in a league game all season this season, and only 2 or 3 times. 

If we beat both Motherwell and Falkirk and have a GD of +10 at Parkhead then of course it would be done.

If Celtic had to beat us by 6 on the final day then it would be very unlikely we would lose the league but I would not go into that game thinking the league was already won. Never count your chickens with Celtic. 

 

[79points]

Just now, ferenc puskas said:

If we beat both Motherwell and Falkirk and have a GD of +10 at Parkhead then of course it would be done.

If Celtic had to beat us by 6 on the final day then it would be very unlikely we would lose the league but I would not go into that game thinking the league was already won. Never count your chickens with Celtic. 

 

I think we win our last three anyway. Honestly do. 
A lot happened at half time and in the second half yesterday.
That team looked formidable at final whistle and that is without Milne, Devlin, McEntee, Ageu and a few others.......

[WorldChampions1902]

I’m nervous as a kitten. My sleep pattern the last two weeks has been massively disrupted. Last night, the adrenaline was pumping so much, I woke up three times in the early hours. And I know it’s going to get worse until the season ends.

 

I may be indulging in a bit of wishful thinking here, but I’m convinced the OF game will be a draw and Celtic will also draw away to Motherwell. I’m not going to say how our games versus Motherwell and Falkirk will end.

 

One thing we all know though, Hearts always know how to put its supporters through the mill.

[nick_3892]

1 hour ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said:

It's such a mind ****. Three games in a row against Motherwell, Hibs and Rangers we've come from a goal down to win all of them. That shows incredible character. We are mentally tougher than everyone else it seems - we actually have the most bottle weirdly. But it's still Celtic. I've been scarred by them so many times. Part of me thinks they would get any result they need against us on the final day, even four or five nil. But that maybe was the first time last night for me where it looked like the players really believe they will do this. Good sign for Motherwell game. But God I hope Rangers get something. My brain is pickled. It's too much. 

Celtic always win……. Until they don’t. That’s how I see it.

[ferenc puskas]

It is brilliant that we seem to have players returning to form. Kizy looked like he was enjoying it again out on the right. Kingsley is like the Kingsley of old all of a sudden. His old head is also very important. Spittal looks energised. It was a bit odd for me to start Chesnokov instead of him against Rangers. We assume Del will not make that mistake again. Steinwender has added consistency to his game now and looks like he belongs in the team. Leonard is leading in the middle which is amazing for a relatively young player who only joined in January. Shankland is in the form of his life.

We must avoid injuries, we cannot afford to lose any more midfielders and Lawrence must be wrapped in cotton wool between games.

Edited May 5 by ferenc puskas

[jr ewing]

Keep things simple. Don't overthink it and don't play Chesnokov in a position that confused everyone. 

[Victorian]

17 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said:

Get the Motherwell game out the way and come back to me 😁

 

I'm a bag of nerves thinking Askou is gonna try and scupper us, then try and worm his way into the Celtic affections by losing against that lot. I know it's silly but what if he's in the running for the manager gig there?

 

Massive game and a very difficult one on Saturday. Win that and I will truly start to believe. 

We've beaten them before, but they did miss quite a few easy chances. 

 

We had a bit of success recently in countering their counter-press tactic.   Hopefully McInnes tipples any tweaks they come up with and can meet the challenge.

[Philfigo]

1 hour ago, Radio-Braga said:

This is where I am at now, I have a real calmness about me now after those two wins.

 

 

It’s strange as a month or two ago I was a bag of nerves! Now just enjoying it all.

[LoanheidJambo]

I have only once had a slight doubt about Hearts winning the SPL and that was when Shanks pulled up against Falkirk, after that, and with his return. I have no doubts, even last night as I felt the Huns have a bad half in them as against Sellic earlier in the season. Anyway only 11 days to go until we paint the Toun maroon and white and give the hobos a day they'll never forget, for all the wrong reasons.

[Dido of Consequence]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Can't underestimate Falkirk. The only team to beat us at Tynecastle this season (even if it was via penalties).

True, but motherwell away is definitely the harder match

[TheBigO]

2 hours ago, bloomtime said:

Never count chickens not after 86 beat utd at tannadice in 86 came out thinking thats it, clydebank home then dundee and we all know how that turned out. Until the mhanky mob can't catch us I'll be bag of nerves.

100%.  I was only 6 in 86 but the lesson is right there.  Robbo mentioned 8 minutes from the title a number of times last night.

 

If we go into last game 3 points ahead and +6 goals on them, I'll be dreading a 3 goal defeat.  Not over til Shanks has that trophy above his huge napper.

 

If (if if if if if.... baws, aunties, uncles...) we beat Motherwell, we watch the glasgow derby from some position.  That's all we know right now.  The mind is racing, but that's all it boils down to.

[Victorian]

Some games always present as harder than others.   On paper or by probability.   But sometimes you can benefit by one lot having a mare.   Or lose out by some other lot having a worldy.   You can benefit greatly from a red card,  or two if it's the green chumps.  

 

This season screams that any of the last 3 will be by far the hardest of the 3.   Take nothing for granted and no need to be overly fearful.

[ferenc puskas]

49 minutes ago, 79points said:

I think we win our last three anyway. Honestly do. 
A lot happened at half time and in the second half yesterday.
That team looked formidable at final whistle and that is without Milne, Devlin, McEntee, Ageu and a few others.......

I hope you are right obviously, we need to continue against Motherwell where we left off against Rangers. We have a number of players now playing well.

For me the team picks itself with Spittal starting in place of Chesnokov. We need Blair to continue that form. He can blow a bit hot and then cold from game to game.

I think an in form Spittal is crucial for us now. He gives us so much more fluidity when he plays well.

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

yesterdays first half performance probably results in 3 losses in the remaining games - the second half performance probably results in 3 wins

 

second half performance yesterday was up there with the best we have played all season which is very encouraging

last seasons top 6 play-off game at fir park doesn’t seem like such a big deal now

 

 

 

 

[westbow]

3 hours ago, ferenc puskas said:

In 1986 we kept thinking Celtic will drop points, and they didnt. They became almost impregnable for the last few games.

Make no mistake, they will do the same again. They will beat Rangers and they will beat Motherwell. Its in their DNA or something.

We have to beat both Motherwell and Falkirk to win this league. If we go to Parkhead on the last day 3 points and five goals clear I will believe it is done when the final whistle blows.

This is not negativity, this is the reality we should all be engaged with. If you think anything otherwise you were not at Dens Park in 1986.

I’m not so sure. Both the OF have been dropping points all season. Got a feeling they will drop more. Celtics next two games are tougher than ours. Our away form does give me the fear but an OF derby - who knows. And I think Motherwell will take points off them and us. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

9 pts up for grabs. GD too tight to rely on.

Won nothing yet. Could still finish 3rd. 

Rejoice in the massive win, move on, rest,reset for Sat.

Its what champs do.

😰

[Bridge of Djoum]

Feeling confident. Still a wreck, though. Beat Motherwell, hope *Rangers take something from Sunday and we are just about there if we beat Falkirk. Christ, even if we just match Celtic's results we win. I'm giddy.

[Radio-Braga]

1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Feeling confident. Still a wreck, though. Beat Motherwell, hope *Rangers take something from Sunday and we are just about there if we beat Falkirk. Christ, even if we just match Celtic's results we win. I'm giddy.

If that scenario plays out we will only need 1pt vs Falkirk. 

[Bridge of Djoum]

Just now, Radio-Braga said:

If that scenario plays out we will only need 1pt vs Falkirk. 

If Celtic lose, yes. If It's a draw we still need to beat Falkirk. (I think)

[Radio-Braga]

Just now, Bridge of Djoum said:

If Celtic lose, yes. If It's a draw we still need to beat Falkirk. (I think)

I think if we win at Fir park and Celtic drop any points the day after, 1 singular point will be enough to win the league. 

[Bridge of Djoum]

1 minute ago, Radio-Braga said:

I think if we win at Fir park and Celtic drop any points the day after, 1 singular point will be enough to win the league. 

Ah ok. That does sound right enough. Apologies. 

[The Hogfather]

I really don't fancy Rangers to get anything on Sunday, they'll buckle under any kind of actual pressure.

 

Need a massive favour from Motherwell over the next week or so.

[Radio-Braga]

Just now, Bridge of Djoum said:

Ah ok. That does sound right enough. Apologies. 

 

No need to apologize, I am just more baffled that we are having these sort of conversations! 

 

[The Hogfather]

4 minutes ago, Radio-Braga said:

I think if we win at Fir park and Celtic drop any points the day after, 1 singular point will be enough to win the league. 

 

1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Ah ok. That does sound right enough. Apologies. 

 

Celtic would need to lose on Sunday for this to be the case. 

[Harry Potter]

5 hours ago, Boris5115 said:

This is where I am. Beat Motherwell then I feel it will happen. Very tough game tho.

aye, 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Thinking back to the 4 sent off at Ibrox. If we're 3 points and 10 goals better off than Celtic on the last day, doesn't 5 players getting sent off mean match abandoned and 3-0 win to Celtic, and we'd be champions? 

[hereford_hearts]

3 minutes ago, Radio-Braga said:

I think if we win at Fir park and Celtic drop any points the day after, 1 singular point will be enough to win the league. 

If we win at the well, and they draw against the hun, then they'd be 5 points behind. So if we draw against Falkirk and they beat the well, it would be back to 3, and not mathematically possible until the final weekend. 

[Radio-Braga]

1 minute ago, hereford_hearts said:

If we win at the well, and they draw against the hun, then they'd be 5 points behind. So if we draw against Falkirk and they beat the well, it would be back to 3, and not mathematically possible until the final weekend. 

 

6 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

Ah ok. That does sound right enough. Apologies. 

 

Got it lol

 

I was wrong! My bad!