spacerjoe Posted April 8 Posted April 8 17 hours ago, Cruyff said: Yeah but it doesn't change the fact the majority of them are shit. Not that I agree the majority are shit, but in any case, does that matter? Do we need every signing to be a standout for us to be a success? We can sell just 2 or 3 players and will have made a big profit on the 16 signed. We can play just 5 or 6 of them and be top of the league with 6 games to go.
Ribble Posted April 8 Posted April 8 18 hours ago, mr fox said: Pretty spot on grades you have Hard to disagree on this Altena and Kerjota would be higher if they played Findlay actually failed the analytics Incorrect, if he'd failed then we'd not have signed him. As I've already said on this thread, he'll have passed the threshold but what Dm refers to when saying he was 'allowed that one' is that while Findlay passed, JTA will have proposed higher rated players or players of a similar rating for less money.
Valois No1 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, Bernard Sumner said: Correct he is talking utter shite. You don’t top the league for 7 months with shite. Whilst I get your point I will challenge it. How many of our players (as of today) do you think could play for the old firm next season. In my opinion it’s only one. That’s not to say they are crap but they are probably Hearts level. They could improve but the majority haven’t shown too much yet.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, Ribble said: Incorrect, if he'd failed then we'd not have signed him. As I've already said on this thread, he'll have passed the threshold but what Dm refers to when saying he was 'allowed that one' is that while Findlay passed, JTA will have proposed higher rated players or players of a similar rating for less money. April 2026 and we’re still talking about players failing analytics. “Failing” analytics pretty much sums up the debate.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ribble said: Incorrect, if he'd failed then we'd not have signed him. As I've already said on this thread, he'll have passed the threshold but what Dm refers to when saying he was 'allowed that one' is that while Findlay passed, JTA will have proposed higher rated players or players of a similar rating for less money. Exactly, this is McInnes talking about the Findlay signing (from 46:00.) He says that Findlay rated well though was on the border of the rating they would normally recommend. McInnes said if JTA came back and said he was not the level they would recommend then he would accept that Findlay wont sign. Edited April 8 by jamboinglasgow
Bernard Sumner Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Valois No1 said: Whilst I get your point I will challenge it. How many of our players (as of today) do you think could play for the old firm next season. In my opinion it’s only one. That’s not to say they are crap but they are probably Hearts level. They could improve but the majority haven’t shown too much yet. I’ll challenge yours, how many Sevco or the sympathisers players would get into our team.
Rudi2012 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 07/04/2026 at 07:51, tiger Rudi said: Before JTA all we wanted was to be the 3rd best team in the league, increase the gap between us and the rest, whilst trying to close the gap with the top 2. We are 13 PTS ahead of a Motherwell team who have been lauded all season for their play. I'd say in our first season with JTA we have achieved both. Whatever happens in the last 6 games why can't everybody be positive and see the bigger picture here? We actually still have a chance of winning this and loads are just whining and greetin' about a supposedly shit manager, shit players, some even moaning about our own fans that won't stand at games or that they don't sing enough😭😱 Mental, just mental. Just too sensible a post. Will go over the heads of a fair few
Cruyff Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: Mine wasn’t an obtuse response. You’re just talking shite. To say most of the players brought in under Jamestown are pish is nonsense. Success - Schwolow, Milne, McEntee, Kyzi, Braga The rest ??????????? A mixture of meh and simply not good enough. Wind yer neck in lad.
Cruyff Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, spacerjoe said: Not that I agree the majority are shit, but in any case, does that matter? Do we need every signing to be a standout for us to be a success? We can sell just 2 or 3 players and will have made a big profit on the 16 signed. We can play just 5 or 6 of them and be top of the league with 6 games to go. That's literally what I said in my previous two replies. Jeez.
Taffin Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Success - Schwolow, Milne, McEntee, Kyzi, Braga The rest ??????????? A mixture of meh and simply not good enough. Wind yer neck in lad. I doubt they're pish TBF. A lot was made though about signing players who were below where they should be and that would suit our system or our league and that was part of the competitive edge. The somewhat 'poorer' ones evidently don't meet that criteria and it's now being used as a reason to defend them which 12 months ago the opposite argument was being used. A lot of them clearly aren't what DM wants or needs. It's early days though and I'd hope that fast forward a year and there will less Mato's (no slight on him) and more focus on getting what we need at that point in time. It could quite easily be that we don't want to miss out on players for the future and it doesn't impact our ability to get what we need now but it doesn't look good when we can't get a striker in January but we can sign a winger for 500k who we evidently don't need/want and were getting free in the summer anyway...it just seems like spending your small budget frivolously. Edited April 8 by Taffin
OTT Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: Exactly, this is McInnes talking about the Findlay signing (from 46:00.) He says that Findlay rated well though was on the border of the rating they would normally recommend. McInnes said if JTA came back and said he was not the level they would recommend then he would accept that Findlay wont sign. I think this will be the last time McInnes' makes the mistake of a light hearted comment about JTA "giving him 'that one'" The amount of folk that have misunderstood this to be mean Findlay isn't good enough or some variation of that is mind numbing The only thing folk need to take away from that is that Findlay was considered good enough to pass the JTA vetting.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, OTT said: I think this will be the last time McInnes' makes the mistake of a light hearted comment about JTA "giving him 'that one'" The amount of folk that have misunderstood this to be mean Findlay isn't good enough or some variation of that is mind numbing The only thing folk need to take away from that is that Findlay was considered good enough to pass the JTA vetting. exactly. and people wonder why at the q&a with McInnes recently those hosting it asked not to post about everything said...
GinRummy Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Cruyff said: Success - Schwolow, Milne, McEntee, Kyzi, Braga The rest ??????????? A mixture of meh and simply not good enough. Wind yer neck in lad. It’s incredible anyone is moaning about the players we’ve signed while we are top of the league. Some decent transfer money on the horizon as well. Have you forgotten the signings before Jamestown? This is summer 2024 In: Malachi Boateng, midfielder (Crystal Palace, undisclosed); Musa Drammeh, forward (Sevilla); Yan Dhanda, midfielder (Ross County); Blair Spittal, midfielder (Motherwell); James Penrice, defender (Livingston); Daniel Oyegoke, defender (Bradford City, undisclosed); Kenneth Vargas, forward (Herediano, loan to permanent); Ryan Fulton, goalkeeper (Hamilton Academical); Jamie MacDonald, goalkeeper (Greenock Morton). Loan in: Andres Salazar, defender (Atletico Nacional); Gerald Taylor, defender (Deportivo Saprissa).
Cisc0 K1d Posted April 8 Posted April 8 23 minutes ago, OTT said: I think this will be the last time McInnes' makes the mistake of a light hearted comment about JTA "giving him 'that one'" The amount of folk that have misunderstood this to be mean Findlay isn't good enough or some variation of that is mind numbing The only thing folk need to take away from that is that Findlay was considered good enough to pass the JTA vetting. I agree, but people seem to be giving JTA some sort of physical character that cannot be crossed, as if it is in charge of what players we sign, it's not that, it's pretty much just a mathematical algorithm using the best data available. In terms of Findlay passing, they would have just got some scores from JTA based on his playing data, I'm sure JTA would say themselves there data is not fool proof and they will have margins for error, it would then be up to McInnes and the board to decide if he was a goer, JTA would not give a toss whether we signed him or not. If Hearts ask for a Right Back from JTA, they will just give us a short list of players the algorithm identifies, it will be up to Hearts to do their homework and work out who fits us best through interviews, video and using other platforms like Wyscout. For JTA it would have just been another request for data, they will not know anything about the players on the list beyond the data and they will not give a toss which one we sign if any. JTA clearly works, just look at Brighton, Union St G, Como, Castellon, Ipswich, Melbourne, etc etc. How well it works for us is up to us based how well we set the requirements for the types of players we want, how we do the follow up human analysis and then how quickly we integrate the players into the team, trust them and give them a fair chance to succeed.
Cruyff Posted April 8 Posted April 8 37 minutes ago, GinRummy said: It’s incredible anyone is moaning about the players we’ve signed while we are top of the league. Some decent transfer money on the horizon as well. Have you forgotten the signings before Jamestown? This is summer 2024 In: Malachi Boateng, midfielder (Crystal Palace, undisclosed); Musa Drammeh, forward (Sevilla); Yan Dhanda, midfielder (Ross County); Blair Spittal, midfielder (Motherwell); James Penrice, defender (Livingston); Daniel Oyegoke, defender (Bradford City, undisclosed); Kenneth Vargas, forward (Herediano, loan to permanent); Ryan Fulton, goalkeeper (Hamilton Academical); Jamie MacDonald, goalkeeper (Greenock Morton). Loan in: Andres Salazar, defender (Atletico Nacional); Gerald Taylor, defender (Deportivo Saprissa). Jamestown I'd say thus far is pure scattergun at best. Yeah clearly the data flags up diamonds like Milne, Braga, Kyzi but they are but a few. McEntee is a good solid player big Magnússon is OK and he's jumped up a few levels. Steinwender is OK. But no setting the heather alight. Schwolow, German Bundesliga keeper, never going to go wrong with any of them coming to our level. But Chesny, Kabangu, Kerjota, Kabore, Borchgrevink, Ageu, Mato 🤷🏻 No really up too much. The outlay on them, £2.5million? Thereabouts. OK, we will make I'd say about £12.5million on Braga and Kyzi so we can cut our losses and it will allow us to bring in better but you can't say that JT windows have been great.
gar jambo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 The winter players were supposed to strengthen us I'm afraid they have weakened us
GinRummy Posted April 8 Posted April 8 8 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Jamestown I'd say thus far is pure scattergun at best. Yeah clearly the data flags up diamonds like Milne, Braga, Kyzi but they are but a few. McEntee is a good solid player big Magnússon is OK and he's jumped up a few levels. Steinwender is OK. But no setting the heather alight. Schwolow, German Bundesliga keeper, never going to go wrong with any of them coming to our level. But Chesny, Kabangu, Kerjota, Kabore, Borchgrevink, Ageu, Mato 🤷🏻 No really up too much. The outlay on them, £2.5million? Thereabouts. OK, we will make I'd say about £12.5million on Braga and Kyzi so we can cut our losses and it will allow us to bring in better but you can't say that JT windows have been great. As well as not every transfer working out some take time and all need opportunities. I think they have been great windows tbh. I’ve no doubt they’ll get better but even taking the players that came in this season you;ve mentioned, that’s 4 players minimum that have came in one season that have nailed down a place in the side and helped us to top of the league. That for me is great business.
Valois No1 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Bernard Sumner said: I’ll challenge yours, how many Sevco or the sympathisers players would get into our team. Way more than one
mr fox Posted April 8 Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Ribble said: Incorrect, if he'd failed then we'd not have signed him. As I've already said on this thread, he'll have passed the threshold but what Dm refers to when saying he was 'allowed that one' is that while Findlay passed, JTA will have proposed higher rated players or players of a similar rating for less money. He did not pass the threshold whatever that is Your response makes zero sense
OTT Posted April 8 Posted April 8 21 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Jamestown I'd say thus far is pure scattergun at best. Yeah clearly the data flags up diamonds like Milne, Braga, Kyzi but they are but a few. McEntee is a good solid player big Magnússon is OK and he's jumped up a few levels. Steinwender is OK. But no setting the heather alight. Schwolow, German Bundesliga keeper, never going to go wrong with any of them coming to our level. But Chesny, Kabangu, Kerjota, Kabore, Borchgrevink, Ageu, Mato 🤷🏻 No really up too much. The outlay on them, £2.5million? Thereabouts. OK, we will make I'd say about £12.5million on Braga and Kyzi so we can cut our losses and it will allow us to bring in better but you can't say that JT windows have been great. I think its maybe a consequence of where we are financially. The lower down the pyramid you go, the higher risk signings are. Financially, sure they're cheaper, but you're also dealing with maybe more erratic characters who maybe aren't as disciplined as players further up, types that maybe have the technical ability to go far, but not the concentration, or those with a great mindset but are technically pretty lacking. I'm thinking if we can maximise what we can in phase 1 of JTA, once we have a bit more money to play with, then we should see a bit of a higher standard of player coming in who can make an impact right away. USG didn't start with great players, so I think its reasonable to recognise we'll probably improve as time goes on. Perhaps JTA might improve as they get to know what works well in this league and what doesn't? - In Belgium, maybe technical ability is the driving factor behind player recruitment, whereas in Scotland it might be more physical attributes? Don't think we can expect JTA to be a master of all markets right out the gate, and we're maybe going to need to go through a wee bit of a learning spell as they develop their own understanding of the ideal sort of player for this league?
tiger Rudi Posted April 8 Posted April 8 27 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Jamestown I'd say thus far is pure scattergun at best. Yeah clearly the data flags up diamonds like Milne, Braga, Kyzi but they are but a few. McEntee is a good solid player big Magnússon is OK and he's jumped up a few levels. Steinwender is OK. But no setting the heather alight. Schwolow, German Bundesliga keeper, never going to go wrong with any of them coming to our level. But Chesny, Kabangu, Kerjota, Kabore, Borchgrevink, Ageu, Mato 🤷🏻 No really up too much. The outlay on them, £2.5million? Thereabouts. OK, we will make I'd say about £12.5million on Braga and Kyzi so we can cut our losses and it will allow us to bring in better but you can't say that JT windows have been great. I'd say Kabore and Kerjota we've still to see the best of yet. Next season hopefully. Kabangu he was ok but I suspect he's on a decent wage coming from USG and McInnes froze him out hoping he would find another club. Club were probably tied into a deal with the loan he had so a disappointing signing. Ageu, just bad luck with injury. Could still be a top player. Chesny, too early to tell. Not what we needed in January. Mato as above. Borch, has his own issues, club will hope he moves on. Could have been decent but for his problems. (Allegedly) On the whole JTA has done really well. We have bought players that will develop and increase in value. That's the whole point of JTA. Some clearly not ready yet. Challenging for the title has come earlier than expected and in January we were crying out for a few experienced buys. We didn't get them. A striker and RB could possibly have made all the difference. Unfortunately we have JTA but we don't have a large wad of dosh to compete with the OF and bring in ready made replacements just yet, and certainly not in a January window where those available generally make premium prices because their own clubs hold us to ransom. Give it time. I'm looking forward to another JTA rebuild this summer.
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 So… 8/11 players with the most minutes for us this season were signed during our partnership with JTA. We are top of the league with 6 games to go. (Findlay, Braga, Kyzi, Milne, Schwollow, McEntee, Steinwender, Magnusson). Clarke was dreadful before Schwollow arrived. Alex has 13 clean sheets in 26 games. Findlay has been a key component of the second meanest defence in the league. Scored 5 goals from cb. Kyzi has had a 1 in 3 goal contribution. Milne is a POTY candidate for ourselves and the league. McEntee has 5 goal contributions from midfield and fullback. Ageu we have no idea about if it is the scouts or the medics who dropped the ball. McInnes says medics. Kabore has been tough on the eye test at times but has a goal contribution every 165 minutes. Braga is every 154. Chesnakov, Altena, Kerjota, Mato have between 350 and 13 minutes each. Way too early to tell. Borchgrevink looks like an outright bust. I think he’s the only one. Signing rough diamonds is part of the process. If Kabore, Mato, Chesnakov, Ageu are struggling this time next year, then yeah, bad signings. JTA has signed a few that have come good after a quiet start at the other clubs. I genuinely think JTA have done well.
red Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Schwollow- 8 Borchgrevink - 0 Altena - 6 Findlay - 7 McCart - 7 Milne - 9 Steinwender - 7 Magnusson- 5 McEntee - 6 Chesnokov- 2 Kerjota - 4 Kyrzidis- 7 Mato - 0 Kabore - 3 Kabangu- 5 Braga - 9 Ageu - 1
spirt of 98 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 06/04/2026 at 22:36, Romulus said: I would take Findlay out as I don’t believe he was a JTA identified and signed player. Was DM own signing. I think I remember McInnes saying he picked him but he had to pass the JTA test to be allowed to sign him.
Gordons left glove Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, red said: Schwollow- 8 Borchgrevink - 0 Altena - 6 Findlay - 7 McCart - 7 Milne - 9 Steinwender - 7 Magnusson- 5 McEntee - 6 Chesnokov- 2 Kerjota - 4 Kyrzidis- 7 Mato - 0 Kabore - 3 Kabangu- 5 Braga - 9 Ageu - 1 altena more than magnusson?
Duggie 1874 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 One point ahead at top of league with 6 games to go , question “ Has JTA done well ? 🤔🤔
hearts00 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 07/04/2026 at 11:53, boag1874 said: The crazy thing with this sort of thread to me is this - If Celtic/Rangers were having their normal seasons where they steamroll everyone & finish on 90+ points (so they'd be about 10+ points ahead of us right now) but we were still on a similar number of points as we are now & sat miles clear in 3rd with a high chance of achieving a new points record I bet people who are being more critical would be more full of praise for the players & there'd be a good bit of positivity & excitement about what's still to come & reaching the "next level". Fair point. Apart from this is a normal season for Rangers, they are two points ahead of their points total from last season.
hearts00 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, CMc said: So… 8/11 players with the most minutes for us this season were signed during our partnership with JTA. We are top of the league with 6 games to go. (Findlay, Braga, Kyzi, Milne, Schwollow, McEntee, Steinwender, Magnusson). Clarke was dreadful before Schwollow arrived. Alex has 13 clean sheets in 26 games. Findlay has been a key component of the second meanest defence in the league. Scored 5 goals from cb. Kyzi has had a 1 in 3 goal contribution. Milne is a POTY candidate for ourselves and the league. McEntee has 5 goal contributions from midfield and fullback. Ageu we have no idea about if it is the scouts or the medics who dropped the ball. McInnes says medics. Kabore has been tough on the eye test at times but has a goal contribution every 165 minutes. Braga is every 154. Chesnakov, Altena, Kerjota, Mato have between 350 and 13 minutes each. Way too early to tell. Borchgrevink looks like an outright bust. I think he’s the only one. Signing rough diamonds is part of the process. If Kabore, Mato, Chesnakov, Ageu are struggling this time next year, then yeah, bad signings. JTA has signed a few that have come good after a quiet start at the other clubs. I genuinely think JTA have done well. Good post. Like everything in life it is all about expectations. I mean Rangers have singed that winger and the fee to keep him is £8m. He’s been rotten so far. None of the JTA signings have been expensive so far apart from Ageu. We can afford a few duds.
gregzy2k7 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 07/04/2026 at 07:31, NottsJambo said: Have started a thread on this before but abandoned it as I thought it'd cause too much grief, but I can't help thinking about the impact of players brought in using Jamestown (so far). Aside from Braga and Milne it's not been overwhelming, but then we're top so maybe i'm wrong? I've graded them based on impact, not ability. Schwollow- 7 Borchgrevink - 0 Altena - 4 Findlay - 7 McCart - 6 Milne - 9 Steinwender - 6 Magnusson- 7 McEntee - 6 Chesnokov- 2 Kerjota - 4 Kyrzidis- 7 Mato - 0 Kabore - 5 Kabangu- 4 Braga - 9 Ageu - 0 I think a fair few will come good next season but only 2 would be in my shortlist for best players this season. Thoughts? Yeah I would probably agree with most of that tbh, I think in general the summer signings seem to be of a superior standard to the winter signings if thats fair ? I feel like we hit the jackpot with Braga and Kyziridis being the main stand outs for us, if we can sign another 2 or 3 of the Braga and kyziridis standard in the summer coming up and then only sell one of them this summer, then that would mean we are building more quality on top of our squad and I think in maybe 3 to 4 summer windows down the line we could be looking at and entire team that is 7 or 8/10 every week, I think if you look at Brighton and Usg, they built their squads over several seasons. Its really exciting to think what level of team we will hopefully have 3 to 4 summer windows down the track.
Bernard Sumner Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Valois No1 said: Way more than one Who and how many
Valois No1 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 9 hours ago, Bernard Sumner said: Who and how many Given I said I think one Hearts player would get a game answers your question or can’t you work that out. BTW I asked you the question first and you didn’t answer. You merely responded with a question back. The question I asked was simple. What Hearts players would be in their starting 11. I will say it again I think one. Perhaps 2 with Milne.
boag1874 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 13 hours ago, Cruyff said: Jamestown I'd say thus far is pure scattergun at best. Yeah clearly the data flags up diamonds like Milne, Braga, Kyzi but they are but a few. McEntee is a good solid player big Magnússon is OK and he's jumped up a few levels. Steinwender is OK. But no setting the heather alight. Schwolow, German Bundesliga keeper, never going to go wrong with any of them coming to our level. But Chesny, Kabangu, Kerjota, Kabore, Borchgrevink, Ageu, Mato 🤷🏻 No really up too much. The outlay on them, £2.5million? Thereabouts. OK, we will make I'd say about £12.5million on Braga and Kyzi so we can cut our losses and it will allow us to bring in better but you can't say that JT windows have been great. The JT windows have helped us from rock bottom of the league to top. Even last January Kabangu, Steinwender & McCart helped stabilise us after an absolute nightmare of a start
Vlad Magic Posted April 9 Posted April 9 I would much prefer we went back to the good old days of David Obua, Juwon Oshinawa or Joel Pereira. Those days were awesome.
johnking123 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 14 hours ago, GinRummy said: It’s incredible anyone is moaning about the players we’ve signed while we are top of the league. Some decent transfer money on the horizon as well. Have you forgotten the signings before Jamestown? This is summer 2024 In: Malachi Boateng, midfielder (Crystal Palace, undisclosed); Musa Drammeh, forward (Sevilla); Yan Dhanda, midfielder (Ross County); Blair Spittal, midfielder (Motherwell); James Penrice, defender (Livingston); Daniel Oyegoke, defender (Bradford City, undisclosed); Kenneth Vargas, forward (Herediano, loan to permanent); Ryan Fulton, goalkeeper (Hamilton Academical); Jamie MacDonald, goalkeeper (Greenock Morton). Loan in: Andres Salazar, defender (Atletico Nacional); Gerald Taylor, defender (Deportivo Saprissa). Yip, the past two windows have been good. As good as McInnes has been for us. He is very frustrating at times and does not utilise the squad we have enough. He has 15 players he likes to pick from. When we do get injury to players. Square pegs in round holes rather than give new players game time. This is where he is failing Jamestown. Anyway, think it would be unwise to pick to many players from the spfl. Young players, yes. Hopefully have a good few bosmans with a bit quality about them.
Bernard Sumner Posted April 9 Posted April 9 12 hours ago, Duggie 1874 said: One point ahead at top of league with 6 games to go , question “ Has JTA done well ? 🤔🤔 Indeed, this thread is absolutely reeking
Rudy T Posted April 9 Posted April 9 (edited) 20 hours ago, Valois No1 said: Whilst I get your point I will challenge it. How many of our players (as of today) do you think could play for the old firm next season. In my opinion it’s only one. That’s not to say they are crap but they are probably Hearts level. They could improve but the majority haven’t shown too much yet. Without JTA how many of the players we would’ve signed would get into the old firm sides given our track record in the transfer market. With JTA we’re top of the league, we may not stay there but we’ll comfortably finish a clear 3rd at worse. It’s season one with them, we are creating a pipeline of talent, when a player is sold another is waiting to come in is the model that can’t be achieved in one season. Bloom himself said 10years. Edited April 9 by Rudy T
Valois No1 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Without JTA how many of the players we would’ve signed would get into the old firm sides given our track record in the transfer market. With JTA we’re top of the league, we may not stay there but we’ll comfortably finish a clear 3rd at worse. It’s season one with them, we are creating a pipeline of talent, when a player is sold another is waiting to come in is the model that can’t be achieved in one season. Bloom himself said 10years. So what you are saying is we haven’t moved on that much really. The vast majority of JTA signings just aren’t at OF levels. I’ll say it again that potentially 2 have demonstrated they can go onto a bigger club with more expectation. That’s out of quite a lot of signings. Folk saying we are top of the league proves it’s working are correct to a point as the players are working very well as a collective team. As individuals though the VAST majority won’t make that next step from what I’ve seen. I do think next season we will see better quality as we test and learn the system
NottsJambo Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 14 hours ago, Duggie 1874 said: One point ahead at top of league with 6 games to go , question “ Has JTA done well ? 🤔🤔 As the person who started this thread, I'd say 'absolutely, they've been brilliant', but that wasn't the original point.
Rudy T Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, Valois No1 said: So what you are saying is we haven’t moved on that much really. The vast majority of JTA signings just aren’t at OF levels. I’ll say it again that potentially 2 have demonstrated they can go onto a bigger club with more expectation. That’s out of quite a lot of signings. Folk saying we are top of the league proves it’s working are correct to a point as the players are working very well as a collective team. As individuals though the VAST majority won’t make that next step from what I’ve seen. I do think next season we will see better quality as we test and learn the system This season we’ve not moved on much no, but enough to take us up a level from where we were. However that’s not what JTA is about, one season is a poor sample size for what we’ve brought it in for, it’s a medium to long term approach to get a better quality of player and maximise finances. I suspect if you look at Brighton etc their early seasons with JTA were probably littered with players who didn’t make it or took time to cement a first team place. PreJTA it was scattergun with no real planning involved. I think the issue this season is the league position if we were comfortably third there would be less pressure on the new players and the management to play these guys and get them more time on the pitch to adjust. As it stands it feels like the second half of the season every game has been a must win and DM has been reluctant to play them.
Valois No1 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: This season we’ve not moved on much no, but enough to take us up a level from where we were. However that’s not what JTA is about, one season is a poor sample size for what we’ve brought it in for, it’s a medium to long term approach to get a better quality of player and maximise finances. I suspect if you look at Brighton etc their early seasons with JTA were probably littered with players who didn’t make it or took time to cement a first team place. PreJTA it was scattergun with no real planning involved. I think the issue this season is the league position if we were comfortably third there would be less pressure on the new players and the management to play these guys and get them more time on the pitch to adjust. As it stands it feels like the second half of the season every game has been a must win and DM has been reluctant to play them. Totally agree it’s a small sample size mate but we are discussing right now as in today. I do agree I think it will get better and do agree that DM has not helped players by playing them out of position or not playing them at all
Rudy T Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, Valois No1 said: Totally agree it’s a small sample size mate but we are discussing right now as in today. I do agree I think it will get better and do agree that DM has not helped players by playing them out of position or not playing them at all Apologies probably jumped in without reading far enough back. As it stands today there’s a lots of improvement required for many of these signings to make an impact. I suspect a few will leave without making many appearances. However if even 3 more step up and are first team regulars then that’ll be the sign that JTA is beginning to prove its value. There is another question hanging over the process though that no one really talks about is what happens when DM leaves, what kind of manager do we go for. Let’s say Del stays 4 seasons thats 4 seasons of DMs JTA picks, the next manager needs to be similar to DM or does the process almost start again?
tiger Rudi Posted April 9 Posted April 9 15 hours ago, CMc said: So… 8/11 players with the most minutes for us this season were signed during our partnership with JTA. We are top of the league with 6 games to go. (Findlay, Braga, Kyzi, Milne, Schwollow, McEntee, Steinwender, Magnusson). Clarke was dreadful before Schwollow arrived. Alex has 13 clean sheets in 26 games. Findlay has been a key component of the second meanest defence in the league. Scored 5 goals from cb. Kyzi has had a 1 in 3 goal contribution. Milne is a POTY candidate for ourselves and the league. McEntee has 5 goal contributions from midfield and fullback. Ageu we have no idea about if it is the scouts or the medics who dropped the ball. McInnes says medics. Kabore has been tough on the eye test at times but has a goal contribution every 165 minutes. Braga is every 154. Chesnakov, Altena, Kerjota, Mato have between 350 and 13 minutes each. Way too early to tell. Borchgrevink looks like an outright bust. I think he’s the only one. Signing rough diamonds is part of the process. If Kabore, Mato, Chesnakov, Ageu are struggling this time next year, then yeah, bad signings. JTA has signed a few that have come good after a quiet start at the other clubs. I genuinely think JTA have done well. Good post. Some fans are comparing them to the OF that generally cost millions, rather than compare them to signings we have made over recent seasons. JTA didn't come with millions to add to our coffers. It will hopefully eventually provide them though, through sales. It's not hard to understand really. Kerjota, Mato, Altena weren't signed to deliver the league title, they are part of the improvement process. A process that will take place over many seasons. Some folk have short memories of the type of player we've brought in before JTA arrived. The failure in January to bring in players who could make an immediate impact is another argument. Fans will look back and see it as a chance missed, but need to accept that we can't compete financially with the OF. It surprises me how many fans don't get that part of it.
tiger Rudi Posted April 9 Posted April 9 18 minutes ago, Rudy T said: This season we’ve not moved on much no, but enough to take us up a level from where we were. However that’s not what JTA is about, one season is a poor sample size for what we’ve brought it in for, it’s a medium to long term approach to get a better quality of player and maximise finances. I suspect if you look at Brighton etc their early seasons with JTA were probably littered with players who didn’t make it or took time to cement a first team place. PreJTA it was scattergun with no real planning involved. I think the issue this season is the league position if we were comfortably third there would be less pressure on the new players and the management to play these guys and get them more time on the pitch to adjust. As it stands it feels like the second half of the season every game has been a must win and DM has been reluctant to play them. Not moved on much? If we were comfortably 3rd? I know what you maybe mean't but I feel our unexpected title challenge has somehow blinded fans from seeing the real picture. The real improvements. We are 13pts clear of 4th after finishing bottom 6 last season. That's taking things up a level, and some. In general I'd say the league is a stronger one this season, excluding the OF who of course have been pretty rank for their normal standards, but not exactly shite. Rangers have only lost 2 games. I keep seeing statements on here that McInnes is reluctant to play them, or is not fully invested in JTA. We are only talking about 2 players here. Kerjota and Mato. From about 16 JTA in total. Altena to a lesser extent. Everybody else (that's fully fit) gets games and plenty of minutes apart from Kabangu.
Jambo61 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 On 07/04/2026 at 07:31, selkirkhmfc1874 said: Far too early to judge , after a pre season I think some of those players will show up well and also this summers recruitment is crucial where we need signings ready to hit the ground running and not players who take 3 or 4 months to get upto speed No matter what we should never go a full season with an obvious weakness in the team. Why has the right hand side been allowed to persist? We are awful down that side, a guide dug can see that! You might not get your preferred signing but you can't just ignore it!
boag1874 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 14 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: Not moved on much? If we were comfortably 3rd? I know what you maybe mean't but I feel our unexpected title challenge has somehow blinded fans from seeing the real picture. The real improvements. We are 13pts clear of 4th after finishing bottom 6 last season. That's taking things up a level, and some. In general I'd say the league is a stronger one this season, excluding the OF who of course have been pretty rank for their normal standards, but not exactly shite. Rangers have only lost 2 games. I keep seeing statements on here that McInnes is reluctant to play them, or is not fully invested in JTA. We are only talking about 2 players here. Kerjota and Mato. From about 16 JTA in total. Altena to a lesser extent. Everybody else (that's fully fit) gets games and plenty of minutes apart from Kabangu. Well said. We're also on 67 points, 55 scored, 27 conceded, 20 wins & only 5 defeats with 6 to play. Our best season in 20 years (23/24) was 68 points, 54 scored, 42 conceded, 20 wins & 10 defeats. One win in 6 & we move onto 70 points which we've only ever achieved once. We're currently sat on our highest top flight PPG (adjusted for 3pts a win) since (I believe) 64/65 and people still try to downplay how good we've been & downplay the manager, downplay the signings, downplay the JTA impact etc. Higher PPG than we finished with in 05/06, 97/98, 91/92 (2nd highest), 87/88 & 85/86. Now that might fall over the next 6 games (or increase) but it's not a normal occurrence to be hitting those numbers, these were the strongest Hearts teams since our golden era.
Ribble Posted April 9 Posted April 9 17 hours ago, mr fox said: He did not pass the threshold whatever that is Your response makes zero sense He did, if the threshold is that a player ranks in the top 30% for his position in the league and Findlay ranked bang on 30 then he passed, DM's comments about being allowed one were down to JTA having provided other options for LCB that were say top 25% or that rated similar to Findlay but were cheaper
Chong Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Chuck this JTA in the bin. We need more Sean Clare's, Uchi Ikpeazu's and Glen Whelan's too really kick on.....
fast_blood Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Reading this thread highlights that the issue with the signings is peoples expectations more than anything.
Rudy T Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 hours ago, tiger Rudi said: Not moved on much? If we were comfortably 3rd? I know what you maybe mean't but I feel our unexpected title challenge has somehow blinded fans from seeing the real picture. The real improvements. We are 13pts clear of 4th after finishing bottom 6 last season. That's taking things up a level, and some. In general I'd say the league is a stronger one this season, excluding the OF who of course have been pretty rank for their normal standards, but not exactly shite. Rangers have only lost 2 games. I keep seeing statements on here that McInnes is reluctant to play them, or is not fully invested in JTA. We are only talking about 2 players here. Kerjota and Mato. From about 16 JTA in total. Altena to a lesser extent. Everybody else (that's fully fit) gets games and plenty of minutes apart from Kabangu. In relation to what previous recruitment methods could bring us we’ve moved on a bit, up a level I’d say, by that I mean we’ve got to a point where we can maintain 3rd, as opposed to the yo-yo up and down the league. We’re definitely not the finished article and we’ll do well to replicate this season next year. Neilson and Naisy got us third but couldn’t really sustain it. I think now thanks to JTA we can, but another league challenge I’m not confident in that. I also said this year is not a large enough sample size to judge JTA. In terms of our league position, while I’m guessing no one would change it, it’s come at a price in terms of expectations and pressure on players and management that a “normal” season wouldn’t bring. Kerjota for example I feel would’ve got much more game time, Altena would probably be settling in at right back. But our must win mentality at the moment leaves DM playing guys he trusts in his system, which is get 3 points by managing the game, 1-0 will do it’s still 3 points. It’s been a perfect storm this season in terms of the old firms managerial merry go round, their poor summer recruitment and January in Celtics case, McInnes arriving and JTA building us a big squad. I suspect next season will be different with the Old Firm so if we achieve a comfortable 3rd and are close to the OF then that’s a success, I suspect I a lot of fans will see things differently but it’s a building process.
H2 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 On 06/04/2026 at 22:31, NottsJambo said: Have started a thread on this before but abandoned it as I thought it'd cause too much grief, but I can't help thinking about the impact of players brought in using Jamestown (so far). Aside from Braga and Milne it's not been overwhelming, but then we're top so maybe i'm wrong? I've graded them based on impact, not ability. Schwollow- 7 Borchgrevink - 0 Altena - 4 Findlay - 7 McCart - 6 Milne - 9 Steinwender - 6 Magnusson- 7 McEntee - 6 Chesnokov- 2 Kerjota - 4 Kyrzidis- 7 Mato - 0 Kabore - 5 Kabangu- 4 Braga - 9 Ageu - 0 I think a fair few will come good next season but only 2 would be in my shortlist for best players this season. Thoughts? What's the point?
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