AGoodLaugh Posted April 5 Posted April 5 I was saying I'd have given it as a red before they checked it. Could easily have been avoided by actually trying to threaten the opposition goal instead of whatever we were doing!
Ray Gin Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Not sure who it was on the half way line in the centre circle but surely he was getting back to cover? He had less ground to cover to get to the goals than the player who was fouled out wide on the touchline.
Nelly Terraces Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Utterly embarrassing we are reduced to having to rugby tackle a Hearts reject who's team are getting relegated. Today was just another in a long line of pathetic performances.
cazzyy Posted April 5 Posted April 5 13 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: Still subjective IMO. A lawyer would be all over it. For me a dogso is a player in the box, through on goal about to pull the trigger. halfway line? Far too many things that could happen before a player gets into the box Exactly, and the reason why it shouldn't have been a red imo. You could say it was a potential goalscoring opportunity even a probable one but not an obvious one imo.
Carter Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Scott Leitch said: Wasn't a red but it forces the manager to break up that pointless midfield 2. Every cloud. The inability to play a forward pass in the sequence that led to red card incident was the biggest crime for me. Absolutely ****ing pitiful. Leonard wasn't great today but his partner offered him nothing in support.
alicante jambo Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Had numerous chances to get the ball in the box. Shankland was going fecking berserk at 3 or 4 of them and quite right. Couple minutes to go and we are fecking about against bottom of the league.
Scott Leitch Posted April 5 Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, Carter said: The inability to play a forward pass in the sequence that led to red card incident was the biggest crime for me. Absolutely ****ing pitiful. Leonard wasn't great today but his partner offered him nothing in support. Agreed
Jamhammer Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Jim Panzee said: Just need to ask….. would an ugly sister player have been given a red card? Never in a million years
Carter Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said: Agreed Devlin is a subject where reasoned debate just cannot happen on here.
ollie2004 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said: McInnes will be gutted he can't play a totally ineffective non attacking & ultra defensive midfield now. Thought Devlin and Beni fall into that sort of midfield!
Pasquale for King Posted April 5 Posted April 5 24 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Not sure who it was on the half way line in the centre circle but surely he was getting back to cover? He had less ground to cover to get to the goals than the player who was fouled out wide on the touchline. Doubt it, the defence is extremely slow.
Pasquale for King Posted April 5 Posted April 5 It’s a red, they made a back for themselves with the Trusty deserved red and have given a few similar ones since. We simply can’t give them the opportunity to give us reds, and I’m sure Clancy will be reprimanded for not doing so initially.
Glamorgan Jambo Posted April 5 Posted April 5 If we win the league by a point we should get down on our hands and knees and thank Marc Leonard. He’d have been expecting a red for that as it’s the norm in England.
Ron Burgundy Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said: McInnes will be gutted he can't play a totally ineffective non attacking & ultra defensive midfield now. He’ll just put McEntee in there and Steinweinder to right back. It actually increases the height of the team. Job done.
feedthefox Posted April 5 Posted April 5 100% red. Hate these types of “fouls”. Absolutely cynical and when yellows are given it never seems enough.
Morgan Posted April 5 Posted April 5 22 minutes ago, ollie2004 said: Thought Devlin and Beni fall into that sort of midfield! Not as much as when Marc is in there.
King prawn Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Meh not sure - felt Altena would’ve got there but I’m glad it means Leonard won’t play. Been really disappointed in him the last few games.
south morocco Posted April 5 Posted April 5 18 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said: If we win the league by a point we should get down on our hands and knees and thank Marc Leonard. He’d have been expecting a red for that as it’s the norm in England. Yip. He took one for the team there. No complaints
John Findlay Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, cazzyy said: Does DOGSO include the word obvious or is it denial of goalscoring opportunity? Because to me it wasn't obvious. Denying OBVIOUS Goal Scoring Opportunity. You could argue that a goalie has a goal scoring opportunity from a kickout from his hands or to use an old phrase a byekick(goal kick for younger readers).
BigStein Posted April 5 Posted April 5 I’m interested to see how we play without Leonard tbh, we did incredibly well before he arrived
VALDOS' Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Instinctive reaction was it's a red, it was a silly foul to make
south morocco Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Just now, VALDOS' said: Instinctive reaction was it's a red, it was a silly foul to make He knew what he was doing imo
Bryson De Jambo Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 minute ago, BigStein said: I’m interested to see how we play without Leonard tbh, we did incredibly well before he arrived He's been decent for us but weirdly think it maybe a blessing. He has been a bit hit and miss and I don't think he work well with either Cammy or Beni, would rather see them back together tbh. It was red all day long for me.
south morocco Posted April 5 Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, BigStein said: I’m interested to see how we play without Leonard tbh, we did incredibly well before he arrived Guess we go back to that. Don’t think we will miss him much with Cammy and Beni fit
Diego10 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 37 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It’s a red, they made a back for themselves with the Trusty deserved red and have given a few similar ones since. We simply can’t give them the opportunity to give us reds, and I’m sure Clancy will be reprimanded for not doing so initially. It's absolutely never a red in any sane league. He's 60 odd yards from goal on the wing. Not a chance that's an obvious goalscoring opportunity Where i will agree is that the league have 100% moved the goalposts on these cause Celtic kicked up a fuss over the Trusty one. Some of the subsequent decisions have been an abject disgrace and this is up there as the worst
MrBones Posted April 5 Posted April 5 He was given a red for the tackle, which was a rugby tackle, wouldn't matter if there were 10 men back. Nothing to do with goal scoring opportunity imo, just a ridiculous red card worthy foul
Jim Panzee Posted April 5 Posted April 5 58 minutes ago, cazzyy said: Exactly, and the reason why it shouldn't have been a red imo. You could say it was a potential goalscoring opportunity even a probable one but not an obvious one imo. yup. I saw - nouble I think it was - running with the ball wide right at one point and stumbled over his own legs unchallenged and lost the ball. Still think leonard was a red - just not for dogso
Diego10 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 minute ago, MrBones said: He was given a red for the tackle, which was a rugby tackle, wouldn't matter if there were 10 men back. Nothing to do with goal scoring opportunity imo, just a ridiculous red card worthy foul In which case it'd be an even worse decision
Jim Panzee Posted April 5 Posted April 5 29 minutes ago, feedthefox said: 100% red. Hate these types of “fouls”. Absolutely cynical and when yellows are given it never seems enough. Agree. red card all day. Leonard spent seconds (oddly) watching the Livi player before hauling him to the ground. Not a dogso for me but just a straight red. why didn’t he try to match the Livi player physically and bundle him over at worse and make it a far more difficult decision for VAR.
Jim Panzee Posted April 5 Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, MrBones said: He was given a red for the tackle, which was a rugby tackle, wouldn't matter if there were 10 men back. Nothing to do with goal scoring opportunity imo, just a ridiculous red card worthy foul Agree - but it was given for dogso. straight red as you say for the rugby tackle. But if Clancy deemed it a yellow, VAR shouldn’t have intervened to over rule for dogso. as I say, no way would a bigot brother player get a red for dogso for that.
manaliveits105 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 hours ago, neilnunb said: Don Robertson on VAR? I think we know the answer. Absolutely it’s corruption it was in their half
HartleyLegend3 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Very confident that if it was any other team, id be saying.. No red for me. The boy still had half the pitch to make it to the goal line.
Gambo Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said: Utterly embarrassing we are reduced to having to rugby tackle a Hearts reject who's team are getting relegated. Today was just another in a long line of pathetic performances. Correct.
Jim Panzee Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 minute ago, The Treasurer said: A goal scoring opportunity inside your own half ???? I'm It’ll be overturned (if we appeal). Similar to the Haring one
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Never a red card in a million years. On the halfway line in front of the dugouts is not an obvious goalscoring opportunity. Refs and SFA have lost the run of themselves applying DOGSO. If Motherwell's away at Aberdeen in the Scottish Cup is anything to go by, should be a straightforward appeal.
mr fox Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 hours ago, Gambo said: Was it a red? Was it an obvious goal scoring opportunity from out wide on halfway line? Nope not a chance it was Ridiculous decision
cazzyy Posted April 5 Posted April 5 41 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Denying OBVIOUS Goal Scoring Opportunity. You could argue that a goalie has a goal scoring opportunity from a kickout from his hands or to use an old phrase a byekick(goal kick for younger readers). Aye, I checked it myself. 👍
Gambo Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 Just now, mr fox said: Nope not a chance it was Ridiculous decision Like the Motherwell player ban, they have set a precedent with this.
south morocco Posted April 5 Posted April 5 3 minutes ago, Gambo said: Like the Motherwell player ban, they have set a precedent with this. Was a red. Deliberately took the guy out.
Tommy Brown Posted April 5 Posted April 5 45 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Denying OBVIOUS Goal Scoring Opportunity. You could argue that a goalie has a goal scoring opportunity from a kickout from his hands or to use an old phrase a byekick(goal kick for younger readers). John, have yost your mind? What the hell are you gibbering about?
south morocco Posted April 5 Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, mr fox said: Nope not a chance it was Ridiculous decision Was a red. Deliberately took the guy out. No complaints
Gambo Posted April 5 Author Posted April 5 Just now, south morocco said: Was a red. Deliberately took the guy out. Is that what he was sent off for? As there were a few who deliberately took ‘guys out’ today. At stadium we were told they were checking an obvious goal scoring opportunity. From halfway line going out wide?
cazzyy Posted April 5 Posted April 5 3 minutes ago, south morocco said: Was a red. Deliberately took the guy out. A deliberate foul isn't automatically a red card.
BigStein Posted April 5 Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Gambo said: Is that what he was sent off for? As there were a few who deliberately took ‘guys out’ today. At stadium we were told they were checking an obvious goal scoring opportunity. From halfway line going out wide? Honestly Gambo we should take it tbh
John Findlay Posted April 5 Posted April 5 3 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: John, have yost your mind? What the hell are you gibbering about? Dogso does not stand for denying of goal scoring opportunity, but denying OBVIOUS goal scoring opportunity. It can be argued that anywhere on the pitch is a goal scoring opportunity. Goalkeepers have scored goals from their own box.
mr fox Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 25 minutes ago, south morocco said: Was a red. Deliberately took the guy out. No complaints You don’t get a red for that Happens constantly Has to be a goal scoring opportunity and It wasn’t You do NOT get a red card for a deliberate foul. Edited April 5 by mr fox
Madjambo21 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 3 hours ago, Dirty Deeds said: A cynical tackle that killed their attack, we'd have wanted a red for the same. Had we simply chipped the ball into the box, we might not have been caught short This in spades. 1 minute to go and we are passing it about side ways. Spittal should have taken one touch the put it in the mixer rather than what he did. Should have brought Kabore on and just lumped it in. Took a red for the team and kept us top
Ray Gin Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: We won't miss Leonard anyway. We certainly looked far more effective with Devlin and Beni paired in midfield at the start of the season.
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