Seven teenagers charged.......

[bertracoon]

17 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Yep . 👍 “ you live what you learn “ parenting is the key to it . Sorry good parenting . Unfortunately leftie type parties like The SNP want to take over this role from parents . Over authoritarian rules , laws and legislation . Leaves parents lacking any responsibility or ability to parent . Remember Sturgeon referred to herself as “ chief mammy “ . Aye bolt hen more like “ mommie dearest “ .

You're absolutely all over the place here. 

[The Internet]

15 minutes ago, bertracoon said:

You're absolutely all over the place here. 

 

Makes a change. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

13 hours ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

Only once everyone agrees with you will the Russian economy collapse. 

 

[Serge Pizzorno]

What time are we meeting on Friday? Has the government released a statement on this yet!

[Negan]

On 10/03/2026 at 03:14, Cade said:

when's the protest?

 

17 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Yep . 👍 “ you live what you learn “ parenting is the key to it . Sorry good parenting . Unfortunately leftie type parties like The SNP want to take over this role from parents . Over authoritarian rules , laws and legislation . Leaves parents lacking any responsibility or ability to parent . Remember Sturgeon referred to herself as “ chief mammy “ . Aye bolt hen more like “ mommie dearest “ .

She doesn't even have any kids. What does she know about parenting 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Anyway the point is you don’t have to be a parent to know what good parenting is .
 

You can witness shitty parenting everyday as well as good parenting , there’s a difference . You’ll know . Ive witnesses good parenting at first hand , my parents .

 

Also my siblings and their neices and nephews . As I always recall at uni too from a great tutor “ you’ll know bad parenting when you observe it”  He was right . 
 

 

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[bertracoon]

2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Anyway the point is you don’t have to be a parent to know what good parenting is .
 

You can witness shitty parenting everyday as well as good parenting , there’s a difference . You’ll know . Ive witnesses good parenting at first hand , my parents .

 

Also my siblings and their neices and nephews . As I always recall at uni too from a great tutor “ you’ll know bad parenting when you observe it , observe , observe , observe “ He was right . 
 

 

So bad parenting is the SNP's fault and good parenting is good parents fault? Got it

[Martin B]

On 10/03/2026 at 11:48, Seymour M Hersh said:

Young lassies have become more and more feral over the last 10-15 years. Throw the book at them and it might dissuade some or all in pursuing this sort of behaviour. A forlorn thought though I think.

I think that’s a bit of an unfair generalisation and harsh on teenage girls.
 

I suspect it’s more the case that more young people in general, regardless of sex, are involved in offending or risk-taking behaviours in the community these days. Or even that social media brings more awareness of it than ever before.

[XB52]

7 minutes ago, Martin B said:

I think that’s a bit of an unfair generalisation and harsh on teenage girls.
 

I suspect it’s more the case that more young people in general, regardless of sex, are involved in offending or risk-taking behaviours in the community these days. Or even that social media brings more awareness of it than ever before.

I think it's more your last sentence. Official figures show crime is lower than decades ago, we just read about it from numerous sources these days. The below is for the UK

 

In 2025, people aged 16 years and over experienced an estimated 1.1 million incidents of violence with or without injury. This was 34% lower than the previous decade (1.7 million incidents in 2015) and 75% lower than its peak in 1995 (4.5 million incidents).

Edited March 11 by XB52

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, Martin B said:

I think that’s a bit of an unfair generalisation and harsh on teenage girls.
 

I suspect it’s more the case that more young people in general, regardless of sex, are involved in offending or risk-taking behaviours in the community these days. Or even that social media brings more awareness of it than ever before.

 

I don't think it is Martin. Obviously though, I was not meaning every young girl falls into this category.

[moogsy]

1 hour ago, XB52 said:

I think it's more your last sentence. Official figures show crime is lower than decades ago, we just read about it from numerous sources these days. The below is for the UK

 

In 2025, people aged 16 years and over experienced an estimated 1.1 million incidents of violence with or without injury. This was 34% lower than the previous decade (1.7 million incidents in 2015) and 75% lower than its peak in 1995 (4.5 million incidents).

Interesting. I remember growing up in North Edinburgh in the 90s there were regularly scraps between the local youth gangs, almost always tooled up. 
 

The stats for Scotland regarding knife crime show a massive decrease since the 80s/90s in both homicides and assaults involving knives. People that moan about this generation of kids either have very short memories or enjoy taking the moral high ground.

 

Not saying this incident shouldn’t be condemned because it absolutely should, but let’s not pretend that feral wee shites are a new phenomenon or worse than they have been in previous generations.

Edited March 11 by moogsy

[Martin B]

1 hour ago, XB52 said:

I think it's more your last sentence. Official figures show crime is lower than decades ago, we just read about it from numerous sources these days. The below is for the UK

 

In 2025, people aged 16 years and over experienced an estimated 1.1 million incidents of violence with or without injury. This was 34% lower than the previous decade (1.7 million incidents in 2015) and 75% lower than its peak in 1995 (4.5 million incidents).

Quite possibly. A lot of things seem worse these days simply because coverage is more prevalent and spread instantaneously.

 

23 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

I don't think it is Martin. Obviously though, I was not meaning every young girl falls into this category.

 

No worries, I know that’s not what you were meaning. 👍🏻

[Martin B]

7 minutes ago, moogsy said:

Interesting. I remember growing up in North Edinburgh in the 90s there were regularly scraps between the local youth gangs, almost always tooled up. 
 

The stats for Scotland regarding knife crime show a massive decrease since the 80s/90s in both homicides and assaults involving knives. People that moan about this generation of kids either have very short memories or enjoy taking the moral high ground.

 

Not saying this incident shouldn’t be condemned because it absolutely should, but let’s not pretend that feral wee shites are a new phenomenon or worse than they have been in previous generations.

It’s the coverage that is the main difference I reckon. Almost every incident is caught on phones and so everyone gets to see it while in the past only those who were actually there witnessed it. Digital media and social media timelines allow every story and incident to be “front page” whereas in the old days coverage of incidents would be page 10 or 12 in a newspaper and missed by most people. (Obviously the specific story from the OP would be front page in both eras.)
 

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Edited March 11 by Martin B

[Cade]

Violent crime has been falling for years.

But the public think it's on the rise.

Reporting is just much better than it was. Every incident is on the internet almost immediately.

 

And, of course, the media love a good sensation.

Either simply for selling copies )or getting clicks these days) or for a more nefarious reason when they have a political axe to grind.

[Martin B]

43 minutes ago, Cade said:

Violent crime has been falling for years.

But the public think it's on the rise.

Reporting is just much better than it was. Every incident is on the internet almost immediately.

 

And, of course, the media love a good sensation.

Either simply for selling copies )or getting clicks these days) or for a more nefarious reason when they have a political axe to grind.

I wonder how much the constant use of mobile phones and quick access to film something, or even live stream it, has actually worked as a deterrent against these crimes, particularly in public spaces. 

[sadj]

5 minutes ago, Martin B said:

I wonder how much the constant use of mobile phones and quick access to film something, or even live stream it, has actually worked as a deterrent against these crimes, particularly in public spaces. 

I think that works both ways, plenty stream, video these things in order to get clicks views etc. the fact these engagements are monetized dont help. There will i think also be an element that as you question act as a deterrent

[Martin B]

3 minutes ago, sadj said:

I think that works both ways, plenty stream, video these things in order to get clicks views etc. the fact these engagements are monetized dont help.

 

Good point. Never considered that angle. 👍🏻

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I'm about to clean this mess up.

 

In the meantime, I hope posters can get back on topic.

[sadj]

20 minutes ago, Martin B said:

 

Good point. Never considered that angle. 👍🏻

on the other post you made you mentioned how the small world nature of social media also probably makes things look a lot worse where figures are the opposite when released. I agree with this.

[Martin B]

2 minutes ago, sadj said:

on the other post you made you mentioned how the small world nature of social media also probably makes things look a lot worse where figures are the opposite when released. I agree with this.

Never seems to be as much focus on the actual stats for some reason.

[Ulysses]

8 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

I'm about to clean this mess up.

 

In the meantime, I hope posters can get back on topic.

 

 

Several posts have been removed.  Once again, members are asked to post on topic.  Thanks.

[sadj]

Just now, Martin B said:

Never seems to be as much focus on the actual stats for some reason.

A lot easier to force a point of view with visuals and language than it is with just numbers. 
 

Weve seen that through brexit, the indy vote etc. scaremongering and playing on a percentage of people who maybe arent as adept at seeing the bigger picture or understanding a situation at depth is like printing money for people that are in power or want certain politics pushed. Farage at Brexit, Brown in the last days before the Indy vote two obvious ones. 

[sadj]

Is there any update on this situation or the arrests? 

[Martin B]

7 minutes ago, sadj said:

A lot easier to force a point of view with visuals and language than it is with just numbers. 
 

Weve seen that through brexit, the indy vote etc. scaremongering and playing on a percentage of people who maybe arent as adept at seeing the bigger picture or understanding a situation at depth is like printing money for people that are in power or want certain politics pushed. Farage at Brexit, Brown in the last days before the Indy vote two obvious ones. 

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