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Posted
2 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

As Souter showed last night he will fall to the ground for no reason and get the foul. We need to be taking more shots from outside the box rather than walking then in. Kabore does well enough but he is no natural striker, he trips over too many times and we should be signing better.


You see his first goal at Tannadice? Was a brilliant poachers goal. Excellent movement and good finish. Second goal there was a good strikers goal too.

 

Recently, we’ve been shelling balls up to him and expecting him to do what Shankland does.  That’s not his game. He looks uncomfortable. 
 

The teams reluctance to get to the byline and cross the ball in, is not helping the likes of Kabore. Look what happened when we finally decided to beat a man and cross the ball on Tuesday night. Goal. We need more of this, not just for the strikers but for the likes of Magnusson etc.

 

Incredible the way Kabore has been singled out from Tuesday. Beni was dreadful but no one is mentioning this. Kyzi had his worst match (offensively).

 

We simply cannot have any boo boys. 12 matches left. We need to trust the manager and the team.

 

I do accept Kabore needs longer studs mind 😂😭

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Posted
2 hours ago, sjh1874 said:

The Kabore hate is strong. I think he'd do ok against Souttar and likely Fernandes. He's rough around the edges but the Currant Bun CH's can't handle the physicality the same as for instance St.Mirren or Hibs.

 

Anyhow I'd be shocked if Kabore is dropped. We need him to keep working and get others closer to him. I'm yet to be convinced that Beni and Leonard play in the same side, both handy but still to buy into both at the same time.


:spoton:
 

Seems everyone and their dog gets a free pass because Shankland isn’t playing. Kabore is not only expect to play like Shankland but also benefit from a hug at Shankland brings despite him not playing. The service he has hand to content with has been shocking. Braga’s especially but also Kyzi’s form has dropped off a cliff since Shankland has been out the team also. Yes Kabore isn’t the finished article but he is a right handful to play against and we have no one better to do the role he is asked imo. 

Graham Thomson
Posted
3 hours ago, El Prez said:

I think Tam's going to miss the game because of his child. Just a hunch. Could get lucky, like Kyziridis did though.

 

If it's that close, I think he'll be given the weekend off. And rightly too.

Top of the league and you want to give a key player the weekend off if his Mrs has a baby 😯😯😯

Jeez it's a different world 🙈

Plenty of time to see his baby 🍼 

Facetime works 😁🫣

Exile fae Main Street
Posted
2 hours ago, franko1874 said:

4-2-3-1 for me 

 

Schwolow 

 

Milne 

Findlay 

Halkett 

Altena 

 

Beni or Leanord

Magnusson or McEntee 

 

Kyzaridis 

Ague 

Chesnokov 

 

Braga 

Like it👍

johnthomas
Posted
2 hours ago, El Prez said:

Family is more important. 

I was joking

North Berwick Jambo
Posted
2 hours ago, franko1874 said:

4-2-3-1 for me 

 

Schwolow 

 

Milne 

Findlay 

Halkett 

Altena 

 

Beni or Leanord

Magnusson or McEntee 

 

Kyzaridis 

Ague 

Chesnokov 

 

Braga 


This is the team for me, it’s also the same formation Motherwell used last night with the press to dominate possession in that game. If fully fit Ageu has to start, time for the boy to shine. 

A_A wehatethehibs
Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, MattyK82 said:


You see his first goal at Tannadice? Was a brilliant poachers goal. Excellent movement and good finish. Second goal there was a good strikers goal too.

 

Recently, we’ve been shelling balls up to him and expecting him to do what Shankland does.  That’s not his game. He looks uncomfortable. 
 

The teams reluctance to get to the byline and cross the ball in, is not helping the likes of Kabore. Look what happened when we finally decided to beat a man and cross the ball on Tuesday night. Goal. We need more of this, not just for the strikers but for the likes of Magnusson etc.

 

Incredible the way Kabore has been singled out from Tuesday. Beni was dreadful but no one is mentioning this. Kyzi had his worst match (offensively).

 

We simply cannot have any boo boys. 12 matches left. We need to trust the manager and the team.

 

I do accept Kabore needs longer studs mind 😂😭


Its not just from Tuesday, over his whole time in the team, you think Kabore has done enough to cement a guaranteed start roght now? I dont. I dont think he is being singled out, but now, some guys have got to make way for Ageu and/or Chesnokov. Now is the time.
 

We have lost key players recently to injury and suspension, we have fought, dug in and got a couple of results, Kabore has played his part in that.
 

But performances now need to go up a level. We have to find a better quality levels at Ibrox, we have to put a performance on. 

 

It is the business end. We need a result but we also need a performance to breed renewed confidence.
 

We have been hanging on a scrapping and winning ugly a lot. While we would all take 12x 1-0’s to the end of season, the reality is, without improving the quality levels in our performances, we are going to end up the wrong side of some of these tight games. As we did in Paisley.

 

So for that reason it is now imperative that we get minutes into Ageu and Chesnokov ASAP, Kabore has done ok but just not done enough to make himself indispensable. So he should make way immediately for Ageu IMO, with Kiziridis now coming under threat from Chesnokov too. There is competition for places here to think about. Performances need to improve. 
 

As for Beni, being a bit poor recently, that doesnt write off what we know he has done in a Hearts jersey over the past 5 years. At his best he is an absolute nightmare for opponents midfielders. Yes he has got growing competition for his jersey too, but from currently available personnel, he starts. 

Edited by A_A wehatethehibs
Absolute Scenes
Posted

I’m confused - why do people not want two wingers playing? Isn’t that the most balanced and appropriate way to approach the game?

davie1980
Posted
23 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

I’m confused - why do people not want two wingers playing? Isn’t that the most balanced and appropriate way to approach the game?

 

It has it's merits and also has some downsides.

 

I mean we have literally played with two outright wingers only once all year as far as I'm aware and that was far from the greatest performance.

So it's not like we've struggled to get results without them.

 

We've played strikers wide, midfielders wide, full backs as wide midfielders. None of that has held us back and we're top of the league, so there are clearly arguments either way.

Fozzyonthefence
Posted
6 hours ago, chrisyboy7 said:

The best teams play two wide players. 


Can’t think of any teams that play with two proper wingers these days. 

Fozzyonthefence
Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

I’m confused - why do people not want two wingers playing? Isn’t that the most balanced and appropriate way to approach the game?


Pretty simple - it leaves a weak midfield 2 to get overrun by a midfield 3.  There was no balance to our team whatsoever on Tuesday.

Edited by Fozzyonthefence
A_A wehatethehibs
Posted
39 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

I’m confused - why do people not want two wingers playing? Isn’t that the most balanced and appropriate way to approach the game?

 

My understanding is, in that type of setup, for example a 5-3-2 or a 3-4-3, or a narrow 4-3-3, your wing backs are your main threat from the wide areas, meanwhile you have your attackers operating more centrally.
 

So you may have a CAM and 2x CFs. Or maybe a CAM, CF and 1x Winger who goes across to either side periodically. Or a CF and 2x “wingers” who are more inside forwards. These days, forwards are multi-role. 
 

For us it could mean that Atlena and Milne are essentially the “wingers”; you only have 2 players that actually stay out toward the touch line. Rather than 4. So you therefore concentrate more of your forces in the center, both at CB, midfield, and forwards. You have 8 players to fight for control of the central column of the pitch, with only 2 players posted wide. 

 

If you do play with 2 outright wingers and 2 full backs, thats you got 4 guys posted to wide areas of the pitch. Leaving you with just 6 players aligned in the central column, competing for control of the center.
 

So if you come up against a team who has decided to concentrate forces in the center, it can leave you vulnerable to getting outnumbered and dominated in the middle of the pitch 8 vs 6. Which can quickly eliminate the relevance of your 4 guys out on the 2 touchlines. Wide players cant have much influence on the game if you cant get securely the ball to them. 

Posted

Two wingers vs not two wingers - I think people are talking at cross purposes. Some people are worried about 4-4-2 leaving us short in central midfield against teams that play three in there.

 

But you can play two wingers in a 4-2-3-1 or in a front three in a 4-3-3. So we can have our cake and eat it here. What you can't do is have two wingers and two central strikers and three midfielders. Pick two from those three!

Fozzyonthefence
Posted
5 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

 

 

again in that we’ve played it plenty of times, especially in the bigger fixtures. Celtic away / rangers at home 


We don’t play really play 3 up top though,  Kyzi plays LM in a 4.   And it certainly wasn’t a front 3 away to Celtic!  The only game I can think of where you might say we played 3 forwards was Dundee Utd at home where Shankland, Braga and Kabore all started. 

Posted

Del will go back to what has been successful against Rangers this Season so far, be a pretty safe lineup.

Something like

                 Schwolov

McEntee Halks Findlay Milne

          Leonard      Beni

Braga      Magnusson   Kyri

                    Kabore

Can't see him playing Altena, Ageu,Chesney or a Mato from the start at Ibrox.

Exile fae Main Street
Posted
1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:


Its not just from Tuesday, over his whole time in the team, you think Kabore has done enough to cement a guaranteed start roght now? I dont. I dont think he is being singled out, but now, some guys have got to make way for Ageu and/or Chesnokov. Now is the time.
 

We have lost key players recently to injury and suspension, we have fought, dug in and got a couple of results, Kabore has played his part in that.
 

But performances now need to go up a level. We have to find a better quality levels at Ibrox, we have to put a performance on. 

 

It is the business end. We need a result but we also need a performance to breed renewed confidence.
 

We have been hanging on a scrapping and winning ugly a lot. While we would all take 12x 1-0’s to the end of season, the reality is, without improving the quality levels in our performances, we are going to end up the wrong side of some of these tight games. As we did in Paisley.

 

So for that reason it is now imperative that we get minutes into Ageu and Chesnokov ASAP, Kabore has done ok but just not done enough to make himself indispensable. So he should make way immediately for Ageu IMO, with Kiziridis now coming under threat from Chesnokov too. There is competition for places here to think about. Performances need to improve. 
 

As for Beni, being a bit poor recently, that doesnt write off what we know he has done in a Hearts jersey over the past 5 years. At his best he is an absolute nightmare for opponents midfielders. Yes he has got growing competition for his jersey too, but from currently available personnel, he starts. 

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NextGenerationJambo
Posted
1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:


Its not just from Tuesday, over his whole time in the team, you think Kabore has done enough to cement a guaranteed start roght now? I dont. I dont think he is being singled out, but now, some guys have got to make way for Ageu and/or Chesnokov. Now is the time.
 

We have lost key players recently to injury and suspension, we have fought, dug in and got a couple of results, Kabore has played his part in that.
 

But performances now need to go up a level. We have to find a better quality levels at Ibrox, we have to put a performance on. 

 

It is the business end. We need a result but we also need a performance to breed renewed confidence.
 

We have been hanging on a scrapping and winning ugly a lot. While we would all take 12x 1-0’s to the end of season, the reality is, without improving the quality levels in our performances, we are going to end up the wrong side of some of these tight games. As we did in Paisley.

 

So for that reason it is now imperative that we get minutes into Ageu and Chesnokov ASAP, Kabore has done ok but just not done enough to make himself indispensable. So he should make way immediately for Ageu IMO, with Kiziridis now coming under threat from Chesnokov too. There is competition for places here to think about. Performances need to improve. 
 

As for Beni, being a bit poor recently, that doesnt write off what we know he has done in a Hearts jersey over the past 5 years. At his best he is an absolute nightmare for opponents midfielders. Yes he has got growing competition for his jersey too, but from currently available personnel, he starts. 

 

Kabore has played 745 minutes for us, just over 8 games in total. 92 of those minutes were 10 v 11 and he was essentially stuck up front on his own and asked to be a nuisance. If we discount those, which I think is only fair, he has played 653 minutes for us so just over 7 games total. In that time he has managed 4 goals and an assist as well as producing the moment that got trusty sent off, going some way to earning us a draw. He has also accrued the highest xG/min in the whole sqaud, higher than Braga and Shankland. A goal contribution every 131 minutes, whilst not playing consistently and data backing up that he gets in good positions to score shows me he is doing fairly well and definitely not worthy of some of the abuse he is getting. 

 

I appreciate your point about getting minutes into guys like Ageu and Chesnokov but Beni is far more worthy of being dropped if we are going off of recent contributions than Kabore is. The issues with our last few performances have not been upfront for me. Yes, we have lost a lot of composure and link up play with Shankland out, but we could easily mitigate that by controlling the midfield more and giving Braga and Kabore more than scraps to feed off. Kabore won more duels than any player in the hibs match and also won possession back more than any player also. People just overlook these stats because his style is unorthodox and his first touch needs a bit of work and they don't directly result in goals, but he is clearly a handful and useful. Get guys round about him and supporting him and feeding him in the box and he has shown he can have a more tangible influence. Continue lumping the ball up to him and hope he makes something out of nothing and people will continue to be disappointed.

Exile fae Main Street
Posted
3 minutes ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

 

Kabore has played 745 minutes for us, just over 8 games in total. 92 of those minutes were 10 v 11 and he was essentially stuck up front on his own and asked to be a nuisance. If we discount those, which I think is only fair, he has played 653 minutes for us so just over 7 games total. In that time he has managed 4 goals and an assist as well as producing the moment that got trusty sent off, going some way to earning us a draw. He has also accrued the highest xG/min in the whole sqaud, higher than Braga and Shankland. A goal contribution every 131 minutes, whilst not playing consistently and data backing up that he gets in good positions to score shows me he is doing fairly well and definitely not worthy of some of the abuse he is getting. 

 

I appreciate your point about getting minutes into guys like Ageu and Chesnokov but Beni is far more worthy of being dropped if we are going off of recent contributions than Kabore is. The issues with our last few performances have not been upfront for me. Yes, we have lost a lot of composure and link up play with Shankland out, but we could easily mitigate that by controlling the midfield more and giving Braga and Kabore more than scraps to feed off. Kabore won more duels than any player in the hibs match and also won possession back more than any player also. People just overlook these stats because his style is unorthodox and his first touch needs a bit of work and they don't directly result in goals, but he is clearly a handful and useful. Get guys round about him and supporting him and feeding him in the box and he has shown he can have a more tangible influence. Continue lumping the ball up to him and hope he makes something out of nothing and people will continue to be disappointed.

Think you're missing the point slightly, imo, Bud.

Kabore has made a great contribution to the team. However, we need to step up a gear at Ibrox, hit them with the unknown something like (I know DM will pick nowhere near it!) :   Schwolow 

 Altena Halks Findlay Milne

                   Beni

    McEntee Ageu Magnusson

    Chesnokov Braga Mato

Subs; Gordon; Steinwender; Kent; Kabore; Kabangu; Kryzeridis; Kerjota; Leonard.

         

Exile fae Main Street
Posted

Except I can't play 12 men! Doh!🙃

Exile fae Main Street
Posted
2 hours ago, North Berwick Jambo said:


This is the team for me, it’s also the same formation Motherwell used last night with the press to dominate possession in that game. If fully fit Ageu has to start, time for the boy to shine. 

This👍

Diehardjambo1
Posted
7 minutes ago, Exile fae Main Street said:

Think you're missing the point slightly, imo, Bud.

Kabore has made a great contribution to the team. However, we need to step up a gear at Ibrox, hit them with the unknown something like (I know DM will pick nowhere near it!) :   Schwolow 

 Altena Halks Findlay Milne

                   Beni

    McEntee Ageu Magnusson

    Chesnokov Braga Mato

Subs; Gordon; Steinwender; Kent; Kabore; Kabangu; Kryzeridis; Kerjota; Leonard.

         

Can’t play with 12 players 

Diehardjambo1
Posted
5 minutes ago, Exile fae Main Street said:

Except I can't play 12 men! Doh!🙃

😂 wish we could at times though. 👍

Posted

Incredibly long shot but still looking for spares for Sunday. Please give me a PM if any come up. Cheers👍

Absolute Scenes
Posted
2 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

 

My understanding is, in that type of setup, for example a 5-3-2 or a 3-4-3, or a narrow 4-3-3, your wing backs are your main threat from the wide areas, meanwhile you have your attackers operating more centrally.
 

So you may have a CAM and 2x CFs. Or maybe a CAM, CF and 1x Winger who goes across to either side periodically. Or a CF and 2x “wingers” who are more inside forwards. These days, forwards are multi-role. 
 

For us it could mean that Atlena and Milne are essentially the “wingers”; you only have 2 players that actually stay out toward the touch line. Rather than 4. So you therefore concentrate more of your forces in the center, both at CB, midfield, and forwards. You have 8 players to fight for control of the central column of the pitch, with only 2 players posted wide. 

 

If you do play with 2 outright wingers and 2 full backs, thats you got 4 guys posted to wide areas of the pitch. Leaving you with just 6 players aligned in the central column, competing for control of the center.
 

So if you come up against a team who has decided to concentrate forces in the center, it can leave you vulnerable to getting outnumbered and dominated in the middle of the pitch 8 vs 6. Which can quickly eliminate the relevance of your 4 guys out on the 2 touchlines. Wide players cant have much influence on the game if you cant get securely the ball to them. 

Thanks for taking the time to go through that mate. That makes sense now. Have we seen much of a wing back setup recently? I think Altena and Milne are ideal for that role 

vegas-voss
Posted

433/4231

 

Either Beni or Leonard beside Mags and Ageu

Danny Wilde
Posted
1 hour ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

 

Kabore has played 745 minutes for us, just over 8 games in total. 92 of those minutes were 10 v 11 and he was essentially stuck up front on his own and asked to be a nuisance. If we discount those, which I think is only fair, he has played 653 minutes for us so just over 7 games total. In that time he has managed 4 goals and an assist as well as producing the moment that got trusty sent off, going some way to earning us a draw. He has also accrued the highest xG/min in the whole sqaud, higher than Braga and Shankland. A goal contribution every 131 minutes, whilst not playing consistently and data backing up that he gets in good positions to score shows me he is doing fairly well and definitely not worthy of some of the abuse he is getting. 

 

I appreciate your point about getting minutes into guys like Ageu and Chesnokov but Beni is far more worthy of being dropped if we are going off of recent contributions than Kabore is. The issues with our last few performances have not been upfront for me. Yes, we have lost a lot of composure and link up play with Shankland out, but we could easily mitigate that by controlling the midfield more and giving Braga and Kabore more than scraps to feed off. Kabore won more duels than any player in the hibs match and also won possession back more than any player also. People just overlook these stats because his style is unorthodox and his first touch needs a bit of work and they don't directly result in goals, but he is clearly a handful and useful. Get guys round about him and supporting him and feeding him in the box and he has shown he can have a more tangible influence. Continue lumping the ball up to him and hope he makes something out of nothing and people will continue to be disappointed.

Great post. Kabore is getting some unjustified treatment on here. But at other times during this season McEntee and Magnuson were also getting abuse here, not good enough etc etc Yet both have been great contributors in recent games. Braga has taken heat at other times  and so has Kizi; although the latter did very little up front against Hibs, his major and significant contribution was to chase back and cut out the ball across the box that had Boyles name on it. I think they've all contributed big moments to the team, including Kabore. This place often throws in adverse judgements on players, only to reverse that a few games later when their contribution stands out. I actually don't think Kickback is any better or any worse than other fans forums in that regard, it's natural for fans to praise and berate players in equal measure, but objectively I find it hard to fault any player this season for lack of effort or significant moments, they've all played their part.

Gundermann
Posted
1 hour ago, Diehardjambo1 said:

Can’t play with 12 players 

 

Bollocks. Sevco did last night.

dannymack
Posted
2 hours ago, Exile fae Main Street said:

Except I can't play 12 men! Doh!🙃

 

2 hours ago, Diehardjambo1 said:

Can’t play with 12 players 

 

2 hours ago, Diehardjambo1 said:

😂 wish we could at times though. 👍

 

Did we not play with 12 on Tuesday night ? 

That Walsh laddie played okay...

 

According to the hibernious ones. 

NextGenerationJambo
Posted
2 hours ago, Exile fae Main Street said:

Think you're missing the point slightly, imo, Bud.

Kabore has made a great contribution to the team. However, we need to step up a gear at Ibrox, hit them with the unknown something like (I know DM will pick nowhere near it!) :   Schwolow 

 Altena Halks Findlay Milne

                   Beni

    McEntee Ageu Magnusson

    Chesnokov Braga Mato

Subs; Gordon; Steinwender; Kent; Kabore; Kabangu; Kryzeridis; Kerjota; Leonard.

         

 

I agree performances levels need to go up, last 2 games haven't been good enough. I just don't think Kabore is the reason for that. I think we struggled for control in the middle of the park and couldn't dictate the game, we were just going long, which I don't mind, but it requires people running off of the man who the ball is shelled to, and people sitting just off him to pick up the scraps.

 

Kabore is decent at getting flicks on but there is rarely anyone anticipating the second ball. Dundee utd is the most comfortable we have looked in months and I don't think it's a surprise we had a midfield three that didn't include Beni. I would actually be happy with your 11, assuming the midfield is Mags, McEntee and Ageu. But if Ageu isn't ready I'd have Leonard in there over Beni, he is far more capable of dictating a game. If Kabore drops out it has to be for Ageu. Beni is the most obvious ommission for me based on current form, but I will understand his inclusion if he is in there. Just making the case that Kabore isn't the source of our problems in the last few games, in my opinion, of course.

Maple Leaf
Posted

I just spent a few minutes browsing a Hun fans forum.  They are viewing Sunday's game as a must win.  Confidence about winning the league is about 50%, but they figure they need to get 9 points from their next three games to stand a chance.

There is some grudging respect for Hearts for the way we grind out results, and for the way we are having a good season with a very low-cost squad.

There's the feeling that if Rangers don't win the league, Celtic will.

feedthefox
Posted

I'm only commenting because thread had dropped to page 2, how's that? 

Ginger God
Posted
5 hours ago, Exile fae Main Street said:

Think you're missing the point slightly, imo, Bud.

Kabore has made a great contribution to the team. However, we need to step up a gear at Ibrox, hit them with the unknown something like (I know DM will pick nowhere near it!) :   Schwolow 

 Altena Halks Findlay Milne

                   Beni

    McEntee Ageu Magnusson

    Chesnokov Braga Mato

Subs; Gordon; Steinwender; Kent; Kabore; Kabangu; Kryzeridis; Kerjota; Leonard.

         

There is no danger whatsoever that Mato will start on Sunday. 

Ron Burgundy
Posted

I think our lack of attacking threat from midfield is showing.  
Time for Ageu to earn his corn. 

upgotheheads
Posted
3 hours ago, NextGenerationJambo said:

 

I agree performances levels need to go up, last 2 games haven't been good enough. I just don't think Kabore is the reason for that. I think we struggled for control in the middle of the park and couldn't dictate the game, we were just going long, which I don't mind, but it requires people running off of the man who the ball is shelled to, and people sitting just off him to pick up the scraps.

 

Kabore is decent at getting flicks on but there is rarely anyone anticipating the second ball. Dundee utd is the most comfortable we have looked in months and I don't think it's a surprise we had a midfield three that didn't include Beni. I would actually be happy with your 11, assuming the midfield is Mags, McEntee and Ageu. But if Ageu isn't ready I'd have Leonard in there over Beni, he is far more capable of dictating a game. If Kabore drops out it has to be for Ageu. Beni is the most obvious ommission for me based on current form, but I will understand his inclusion if he is in there. Just making the case that Kabore isn't the source of our problems in the last few games, in my opinion, of course.

 

The big miss is Cammy. Beni isn't as good without hiim, and Magnusson should be a first pick for his mobility imo. If Ageu plays too then we have the problem of finding places for Shanks when he comes back.

 

At the moment, we have about 16 forwards and midfielders if we include Spittal and Forrest, but for me Beni, Cammy, and Magnusson would be our first pick midfield three. That only leaves four more picks between midfielders and strikers. If Mato, Ageu, and Chesnokov turn out as hoped, it's going to be one hell of a bunfight for places in there. 

 

Posted
6 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

 

My understanding is, in that type of setup, for example a 5-3-2 or a 3-4-3, or a narrow 4-3-3, your wing backs are your main threat from the wide areas, meanwhile you have your attackers operating more centrally.
 

So you may have a CAM and 2x CFs. Or maybe a CAM, CF and 1x Winger who goes across to either side periodically. Or a CF and 2x “wingers” who are more inside forwards. These days, forwards are multi-role. 
 

For us it could mean that Atlena and Milne are essentially the “wingers”; you only have 2 players that actually stay out toward the touch line. Rather than 4. So you therefore concentrate more of your forces in the center, both at CB, midfield, and forwards. You have 8 players to fight for control of the central column of the pitch, with only 2 players posted wide. 

 

If you do play with 2 outright wingers and 2 full backs, thats you got 4 guys posted to wide areas of the pitch. Leaving you with just 6 players aligned in the central column, competing for control of the center.
 

So if you come up against a team who has decided to concentrate forces in the center, it can leave you vulnerable to getting outnumbered and dominated in the middle of the pitch 8 vs 6. Which can quickly eliminate the relevance of your 4 guys out on the 2 touchlines. Wide players cant have much influence on the game if you cant get securely the ball to them. 

That, is a fantastic post.  :clap:

 

The detail in your explanation is second to none, something I don’t think I’ve seen on here in 20 odd years. 
 

I have to say, and I don’t give compliments very often, that this is one of the finest posts I’ve ever read on Kickback.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Robbo-Jambo
Posted
6 hours ago, ramrod said:

Del will go back to what has been successful against Rangers this Season so far, be a pretty safe lineup.

Something like

                 Schwolov

McEntee Halks Findlay Milne

          Leonard      Beni

Braga      Magnusson   Kyri

                    Kabore

Can't see him playing Altena, Ageu,Chesney or a Mato from the start at Ibrox.

Very good chance that will be the starting 11. 

pettigrewsstylist
Posted

Kabore will play. 🙏 We play someone on CM to release him in a foot race against the CBs. Praying Halks is back aswell.

Posted

Is there any chance Stephen Kingsley is back for this? 

Graham Thomson
Posted
8 hours ago, johnthomas said:

Family is more important.

Lighten up 🤣 

feedthefox
Posted
6 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Kabore will play. 🙏 We play someone on CM to release him in a foot race against the CBs. Praying Halks is back aswell.

 

Hmmm lots of effort but I haven't seen anything to suggest Kabore is winning many foot races. 

johnthomas
Posted
2 minutes ago, Graham Thomson said:

Lighten up 🤣 

I didn't make that post 

Posted
9 hours ago, Dazo said:


:spoton:
 

Seems everyone and their dog gets a free pass because Shankland isn’t playing. Kabore is not only expect to play like Shankland but also benefit from a hug at Shankland brings despite him not playing. The service he has hand to content with has been shocking. Braga’s especially but also Kyzi’s form has dropped off a cliff since Shankland has been out the team also. Yes Kabore isn’t the finished article but he is a right handful to play against and we have no one better to do the role he is asked imo. 

Very little chances created and the game v Dundee United shows he can score. 
Milne is about the only player that drives and crosses in. 
 

Dick Dastardly
Posted
22 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Kabore will play. 🙏 We play someone on CM to release him in a foot race against the CBs. Praying Halks is back aswell.

Halks should stroll back into the team. I can't see a reason he won't. 

Posted
7 hours ago, ramrod said:

Del will go back to what has been successful against Rangers this Season so far, be a pretty safe lineup.

Something like

                 Schwolov

McEntee Halks Findlay Milne

          Leonard      Beni

Braga      Magnusson   Kyri

                    Kabore

Can't see him playing Altena, Ageu,Chesney or a Mato from the start at Ibrox.

I would play Altena and Milne wide in a midfield 4

Posted

I know there are a bunch of games left, I kinda feel the winner of this match will win the league. It's probably irrational thinking on my part, but that's where my brain is. Fookin loving this new type of stress that I'm experiencing.

Rudi5kaceldream1ng
Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, MattyK82 said:


You see his first goal at Tannadice? Was a brilliant poachers goal. Excellent movement and good finish. Second goal there was a good strikers goal too.

 

Recently, we’ve been shelling balls up to him and expecting him to do what Shankland does.  That’s not his game. He looks uncomfortable. 
 

The teams reluctance to get to the byline and cross the ball in, is not helping the likes of Kabore. Look what happened when we finally decided to beat a man and cross the ball on Tuesday night. Goal. We need more of this, not just for the strikers but for the likes of Magnusson etc.

 

Incredible the way Kabore has been singled out from Tuesday. Beni was dreadful but no one is mentioning this. Kyzi had his worst match (offensively).

 

We simply cannot have any boo boys. 12 matches left. We need to trust the manager and the team.

 

I do accept Kabore needs longer studs mind 😂😭

Kabore has all the balance and finesse of a baby giraffe. 

 

However he has done okay in spurts and patches against the two dundee teams and others. 

 

I'll remain balanced and fair here, he's a good squad player, great guy. 

 

I won't go hyperbolic and claim he's a great player or shite. 

 

He's neither. 

Edited by Rudi5kaceldream1ng
h-e-a-r-t-s
Posted

Team to win this match and we won’t look back after this weekend imo…

 

                     Schwolow

Mcntee    Halkett    Findlay     Milne

 

Altena   Leonard    Magnusson   Kyzi

 

                Braga        Kabore

Posted
9 hours ago, MattyK82 said:


You see his first goal at Tannadice? Was a brilliant poachers goal. Excellent movement and good finish. Second goal there was a good strikers goal too.

 

Recently, we’ve been shelling balls up to him and expecting him to do what Shankland does.  That’s not his game. He looks uncomfortable. 
 

The teams reluctance to get to the byline and cross the ball in, is not helping the likes of Kabore. Look what happened when we finally decided to beat a man and cross the ball on Tuesday night. Goal. We need more of this, not just for the strikers but for the likes of Magnusson etc.

 

Incredible the way Kabore has been singled out from Tuesday. Beni was dreadful but no one is mentioning this. Kyzi had his worst match (offensively).

 

We simply cannot have any boo boys. 12 matches left. We need to trust the manager and the team.

 

I do accept Kabore needs longer studs mind 😂😭

Stopped Boyle going through so think thats a bit harsh dont think he did much wrong.

Shankland31
Posted
7 hours ago, ramrod said:

Del will go back to what has been successful against Rangers this Season so far, be a pretty safe lineup.

Something like

                 Schwolov

McEntee Halks Findlay Milne

          Leonard      Beni

Braga      Magnusson   Kyri

                    Kabore

Can't see him playing Altena, Ageu,Chesney or a Mato from the start at Ibrox.

I think you’re right.

 

3 minutes ago, h-e-a-r-t-s said:

Team to win this match and we won’t look back after this weekend imo…

 

                     Schwolow

Mcntee    Halkett    Findlay     Milne

 

Altena   Leonard    Magnusson   Kyzi

 

                Braga        Kabore

This is the team I want to see, maybe Ageu instead of Kabore.

Posted
25 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:

Halks should stroll back into the team. I can't see a reason he won't. 

Because he's slow as xxxx. However for this game where Rangers are going to throw balls into the box it might suit him.

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