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Penrices left boot
Posted
9 minutes ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

 

I like that.

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Penrices left boot
Posted
10 hours ago, tartofmidlothian said:

Now here comes the big test...

 

Aye, for the ****ing hun *****.

 

If we beat them this time, do we keep them?

Scott980612
Posted
54 minutes ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

 This line up for me  

 
You’ll get more from Ageu in that role than going with kabore up top

selkirkhmfc1874
Posted

Nothing to fear on Sunday, win on Sunday and what a massive statement that would be in a season of statement wins 

Posted
2 hours ago, Dazo said:


They were on a great run last time we played them. We put an end to their form. 

Aye very true. I still think they're a better team now though. I'd love another win but we need tobbe more clinical than our recent performances. If Motherwell get anything tonight though not losing to Rangers will be a fantastic outcome. 

lost in space
Posted
1 hour ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

This is exactly what we should do.

Posted

Thought Altena was a standout when he came on last night, one of the few that could control the ball and play football.

 

A more attack minded Ageu or Magnusson in to replace Beni.

Ex member of the SaS
Posted

We really need better than Kabore up front. The number of times he trips over the ball or his own feet is poor for a striker.

Jambo Buckets
Posted
2 hours ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

Think it will be something like this, but I thought Ageu would have been given a bit more time last night, if he's going to start. Will need to weather the storm for the first hour or so but if we are still in the game after that you just never know. 

AC Mallin_51
Posted

Get into these zombies

Shankland31
Posted
13 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

We really need better than Kabore up front. The number of times he trips over the ball or his own feet is poor for a striker.

The time to address this was in January. We really should have forked out and got a striker given what is at stake. No point talking about it now have to be a positive as possible for the rest of the season.

Shankland31
Posted

I fear Rangers are more tooled up for this battle than we are. We need the players to find something within themselves to get the job done. We simply have to beat them for the third time this season if we want to achieve the impossible. I’m leaning towards 3 at the back but I trust Del to figure out the best approach while he watches Motherwell v Rangers tonight. 
 

I really can’t call what our team will be at all.

Shankland31
Posted
2 hours ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

This looks just about perfect to me, think Leonard more likely than Ageu though. I like the Idea of Altena on the right can make a back 5 defensively. Really hope we gamble and start Ageu. He could have the quality that we’ll need in this game. 
 

Keep Kabore to come off the bench when legs are tired.

Posted

1-1

 

Braga for us.

 

Penalty for Rangers.

Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine
Posted

Think maybe its time for 3 at the back - Kyzi out of form, Milne bang in form, so having him in a more advanced role on the left seems like a no brainer.

 

Altena playing on the right to give us our outlet on that side, looked so composed when he came on last night in a game that was seriously short in that department.

 

Would let us go with 3 across the middle as well. Some combo of Magnusson/McEntee (or even play McEntee as RCB, as I thought he looked good there last night), and then Ageu on the left of the 3, with Beni/Leonard sitting a bit (they can't both play again surely).

 

Then the front 2 would be Braga with one of Kabore/Chesny/Mato.

 

So something like:

 

Schwolow

McEntee Halkett Findlay

Altena Magnusson Beni Ageu Milne

Kabore Braga

 

Think that matches us up well with Rangers' 3 across the middle, and will suit what we need to try and do, which is be solid and be dangerous on the break with pace on both wings.

 

Obviously we will then have options on the bench to change the shape up if we need to chase the game a bit more.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine said:

Think maybe its time for 3 at the back - Kyzi out of form, Milne bang in form, so having him in a more advanced role on the left seems like a no brainer.

 

Altena playing on the right to give us our outlet on that side, looked so composed when he came on last night in a game that was seriously short in that department.

 

Would let us go with 3 across the middle as well. Some combo of Magnusson/McEntee (or even play McEntee as RCB, as I thought he looked good there last night), and then Ageu on the left of the 3, with Beni/Leonard sitting a bit (they can't both play again surely).

 

Then the front 2 would be Braga with one of Kabore/Chesny/Mato.

 

So something like:

 

Schwolow

McEntee Halkett Findlay

Altena Magnusson Beni Ageu Milne

Kabore Braga

 

Think that matches us up well with Rangers' 3 across the middle, and will suit what we need to try and do, which is be solid and be dangerous on the break with pace on both wings.

 

Obviously we will then have options on the bench to change the shape up if we need to chase the game a bit more.

Replace Beni with steinwender and put Mcentee into midfield and that’s it for me.

 

Physical with pace upfront and allows altena and Milne the space to create, bring on wingers when it opens up in the second half 

Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine
Posted
3 minutes ago, Farmer1 said:

Replace Beni with steinwender and put Mcentee into midfield and that’s it for me.

 

Physical with pace upfront and allows altena and Milne the space to create, bring on wingers when it opens up in the second half 

 

That's my thinking exactly.

 

Feel like there's no way Del won't play one of Beni or Leonard though.

Posted

Schwolow

 

Altena

Halks

Findlay

Milne

 

Macentee

Magnusson

 

Chesnokov

Ageu

Kyzi

 

Braga

Posted

Score draw, although I would be absolutely exhilarated if we came away with all three points. The Rangers will not be ‘allowed’ to lose this though.

N Lincs Jambo
Posted

Don’t know why but I have had the score line Rangers 1-4 Hearts in my head for weeks. Probably going back to before Shanks and Cammy got injured but if we can replicate the intensity of the first game at Ibrox and also our performance at Tannadice a couple of weeks ago then we win. Fingers crossed we do!

Rudi5kaceldream1ng
Posted
2 hours ago, Shankland31 said:

The time to address this was in January. We really should have forked out and got a striker given what is at stake. No point talking about it now have to be a positive as possible for the rest of the season.

Kabores just there for the vibes man he looks a top lad haha always jumping on folk

Posted

Must win for them

Must not lose for us

Victorian
Posted

It will be very difficult in a number of ways.   Nobody should be under any illusions about it.   But I'm looking ahead to the final 6 pre-split matches.   That run of matches will have a greater bearing on our chances than this one vs Rangers.   It's a bit curious but with 12 matches to go,  a match vs one of our direct challengers is actually almost a free hitter.   If we lose it is absolutely not over.   Not even remotely.   

 

 

Robbo-Jambo
Posted
3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

It will be very difficult in a number of ways.   Nobody should be under any illusions about it.   But I'm looking ahead to the final 6 pre-split matches.   That run of matches will have a greater bearing on our chances than this one vs Rangers.   It's a bit curious but with 12 matches to go,  a match vs one of our direct challengers is actually almost a free hitter.   If we lose it is absolutely not over.   Not even remotely.   

 

 

Spot on. 

 

The games after Sunday are distinctively winnable as well.

Victorian
Posted
Just now, Robbo-Jambo said:

Spot on. 

 

The games after Sunday are distinctively winnable as well.

 

Conversely people are right to say we 'need' something.   Because getting a result boosts our chances a lot.   It can be viewed as our great chance to enhance our challenge.   

 

If this fixture was right at the end of the pre-split schedule with a similar league table it would take on a different dynamic.   It's because it sits at 12 matches to go that it isn't quite shit or bust.

JudyJudyJudy
Posted
13 minutes ago, Victorian said:

It will be very difficult in a number of ways.   Nobody should be under any illusions about it.   But I'm looking ahead to the final 6 pre-split matches.   That run of matches will have a greater bearing on our chances than this one vs Rangers.   It's a bit curious but with 12 matches to go,  a match vs one of our direct challengers is actually almost a free hitter.   If we lose it is absolutely not over.   Not even remotely.   

 

 

Agreed 

leipzig76
Posted
2 hours ago, Morgan said:

1-1

 

Braga for us.

 

Penalty for Rangers.

Take that ! (expect the pen. thing)

Posted

Schwolow 

McEntee halkett Findlay McCart 

Altena Beni  magnusson Milne 

                  Ageu

                  Braga

 

No chance of this but I would like to see it 

 

Altena has to play for me 

Posted
1 hour ago, Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine said:

Think maybe its time for 3 at the back - Kyzi out of form, Milne bang in form, so having him in a more advanced role on the left seems like a no brainer.

 

Altena playing on the right to give us our outlet on that side, looked so composed when he came on last night in a game that was seriously short in that department.

 

Would let us go with 3 across the middle as well. Some combo of Magnusson/McEntee (or even play McEntee as RCB, as I thought he looked good there last night), and then Ageu on the left of the 3, with Beni/Leonard sitting a bit (they can't both play again surely).

 

Then the front 2 would be Braga with one of Kabore/Chesny/Mato.

 

So something like:

 

Schwolow

McEntee Halkett Findlay

Altena Magnusson Beni Ageu Milne

Kabore Braga

 

Think that matches us up well with Rangers' 3 across the middle, and will suit what we need to try and do, which is be solid and be dangerous on the break with pace on both wings.

 

Obviously we will then have options on the bench to change the shape up if we need to chase the game a bit more.

Decent but not keen on a 3 at back but worth a shot 

Posted
4 hours ago, Scott980612 said:

 This line up for me  

 
You’ll get more from Ageu in that role than going with kabore up top

It’s time to release him 

Italian Lambretta
Posted
5 hours ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

That looks like a good team but sadly our lineup will be nothing like that.

Steinwender will probably start at right back, Leonard will defo play and big kabore who can't control a cement bag will be asked to lead the line and hold the ball up.

Posted

Alex

McEntee Halkett Findlay Milne

Altena Beni Leonard Kyzi

Magnusson 

Braga

I think a kind of 451/4411 would work well. 

 

Altena and Magnusson starting is crucial IMO. Creating a midfield 3 with Magnusson with the running, workrate and physicality he brings is really important, Could argue there is merit in maybe dropping Leonard or Beni for a midfield 2 to get Kabore in, but I think we need to focus on getting the midfield sorted. 

 

We can bring on the likes of Kabore, Ageu, Chesny and adjust shape as needed, but we need a robust midfield that can win back the ball, and also move it on effectively. Magnusson can support in that massively. 

Ex member of the SaS
Posted (edited)

If DM sets us up for a draw then we will not win the league. Now is not the time to park the bus. Sevco are not great ( yes they have improved  ) as recent games have shown. Get stuck in and stop them playing.

 

Ps: please don't wait to make subs when it's clear they are needed. Don't wait on their manager to make a change before reacting.

Edited by Ex member of the SaS
tartofmidlothian
Posted
1 hour ago, Masonic said:

Schwolow

 

Altena

Halks

Findlay

Milne

 

Macentee

Magnusson

 

Chesnokov

Ageu

Kyzi

 

Braga

 

That's the team for me but I can't see McInnes benching Beni or going without a big guy like McEntee or Steinwender at RB.

 

On recent evidence Altena's probably our best option on the right wing but Chesnokov won't get better unless he plays more. He certainly hasn't let us down.

 

It will probably be something more like

 

Schwolow

MacEntee Halks Findlay Milne

Beni Magnusson

Chesnokov Ageu Kyzi

Braga

 

With Leonard, Altena, Kabore and Steinwender all coming off the bench.

Posted
42 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said:

That looks like a good team but sadly our lineup will be nothing like that.

Steinwender will probably start at right back, Leonard will defo play and big kabore who can't control a cement bag will be asked to lead the line and hold the ball up.

And yet we’ll probably win again anyway 

Hearts007
Posted

Be a very tough game this one

Posted
15 minutes ago, Hearts007 said:

Be a very tough game this one

Massive test for our title credentials. 

Hearts007
Posted
17 minutes ago, hmfc1984 said:

Massive test for our title credentials. 

Sure is

Posted

Alright, having thought about this some more, I like one of these two options. I'll be one of the few suggesting we stick with Beni and Leonard, but I think we'll want their calm heads in this one. I get the clamour for Mags to start but I'd prefer him off the bench and his missus is going into labour any day now so he might not be available anyway. I don't think we'll play Altena in a back four at Ibrox. Time to unleash Ageu either way.

 

Option 1 (Ageu dropping into a flatter 4-3-3 when we don't have the ball):

 

Schwolow

McEntee   Halkett   Findlay   Milne

Leonard   Beni

Ageu

Braga   Kabore   Kyziridis

 

Option 2 (Kyzi switching wings frequently, Braga staying central):

 

Schwolow

Halkett   Findlay   McCart

Altena    Leonard    Beni   Milne

Ageu

Braga     Kyziridis

 

Lord Beni of Gorgie
Posted

Never should we see 4 forwards ever again, has nearly cost us on the few occasions its been tried. We are good at winning games by good old fashioned graft, running power and physical presence, trying to win favour with the lunatics that want every flair player, will lose us the thing.

 

Industrial until we are at the next step is working just fine.

Posted

I'd go 3 at the back for this one:

 

Schwolow

McEntee Halkett Findlay

Altena                                                 Milne

Magnusson Leonard Chesny

Ageu Braga

 

Give Kyzi a well-earned rest

 

Ex member of the SaS
Posted

When attacking we need players in the box, A lone striker struggles to score when out numbered by defenders. Those that do get forward, also need to be aware they need to track back quickly too. If we tackle their defenders high up the pitch they can't spray passes around and that will hurt them. Just don't park the bus and expect a result, even a draw is very hard to get when going all defensive. 

Posted

I'm feeling spicy on this one

 

Braga  Kabore

Milne  Leonard  Beni  Magnus  Chesny

Findlay  Halkett  Stein

Scwolow

 

If McInnes trusted Chesnokov against Cadden, I think he would trust him as the wide winger in a 3-5-2 with Steinwender behind him.

Watt-Zeefuik
Posted
7 hours ago, Takeshi kovac said:

                         Schwolow 

Mcintee     Halks      Findlay       Milne

Altena         Mags      Beni         Kyzi

                             Ageu

                             Braga

 

Great that Halks is back for this, Leonard has been poor 2 games in a row so big Mags deserves to come back in. Braga up front with Ageu in the 10 .

No way should Kyzi be dropped

 

                

 

I don't think Ageu is a 10. I think he's an 8 who can make runs. I wouldn't have him and Mags in the same team.

 

Beyond that, I'm genuinely ready to drop Kyzi for a bit, at least from the start. Opponents have sussed his game and he isn't adapting. He drifted in last night looking for that shot and Hibs were after him like kids after an ice cream truck. He and Milne kept getting in each others way until he went off.

Bridge of Djoum
Posted

I think It's time to rest Kabore. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said:

I think It's time to rest Kabore. 

I'd prefer Kabangu but I've finally accepted that won't happen.

 

Haven't seen enough of Mato yet.

Takeshi kovac
Posted
8 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 

I don't think Ageu is a 10. I think he's an 8 who can make runs. I wouldn't have him and Mags in the same team.

 

Beyond that, I'm genuinely ready to drop Kyzi for a bit, at least from the start. Opponents have sussed his game and he isn't adapting. He drifted in last night looking for that shot and Hibs were after him like kids after an ice cream truck. He and Milne kept getting in each others way until he went off.

You've got to remember Tynecastle is a small tight pitch, Ibrox is far bigger so he will have far more room on the wing there. He has been our most creative player this season and that's not the game to drop him. We win that and he can be rested for one of the following games at home.

I don't see any reason Mags and Ageu can't play in the same team and think they can both play 8 and 10

Bridge of Djoum
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Takeshi kovac said:

You've got to remember Tynecastle is a small tight pitch, Ibrox is far bigger so he will have far more room on the wing there. He has been our most creative player this season and that's not the game to drop him. We win that and he can be rested for one of the following games at home.

I don't see any reason Mags and Ageu can't play in the same team and think they can both play 8 and 10

Be nice to have Kyzi cutting in from the left with Milne overlapping. Tavernier is a shocking defender, and pinning him back might be a good idea, however, we might need to go 3 at the back for that and I just don't think we will. 

Edited by Bridge of Djoum
Posted

A win would be utterly fantastic but would happily take a draw. Mind you, i said that at the 85th minute last night

Robbo-Jambo
Posted
1 hour ago, tartofmidlothian said:

 

That's the team for me but I can't see McInnes benching Beni or going without a big guy like McEntee or Steinwender at RB.

 

On recent evidence Altena's probably our best option on the right wing but Chesnokov won't get better unless he plays more. He certainly hasn't let us down.

 

It will probably be something more like

 

Schwolow

MacEntee Halks Findlay Milne

Beni Magnusson

Chesnokov Ageu Kyzi

Braga

 

With Leonard, Altena, Kabore and Steinwender all coming off the bench.

That's a tasty looking team BTW. 

 

Only issue is right back but reckon McEntee will get the nod. 

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