Loyalty Points Thresholds

[durhamhearts]

122 LPs for Ibrox I think that’s the highest threshold Hearts have set for any game that I can remember

[Locky]

Last years European games plus I don't think there was a cull in the summer?

[FerryJambo81]

There was a cull in summer...

[michaeljambo22]

How do you get so many points? Think I've got around 74 I'm a season ticket holder and been to every game at tynecastle for years plus about 10 away games over the past 2 years and I'm no where near that points total 🥲 credit to all the Jambos that are able to go week in week out though 🇱🇻💪

[bigdav]

16 minutes ago, michaeljambo22 said:

How do you get so many points? Think I've got around 74 I'm a season ticket holder and been to every game at tynecastle for years plus about 10 away games over the past 2 years and I'm no where near that points total 🥲 credit to all the Jambos that are able to go week in week out though 🇱🇻💪

It's over 2 seasons so if you're a season ticket holder and shareholder youre on 60 before you start. Aberdeen away is 5 points. Motherwell St Mirren and kilmarnock 3. You go to all them and you're up high 80s/low 90s easy then start adding in friendlies,cup and European games.

[swindonjambo1]

It's difficult to reach the thresholds now . Im a season ticket holder and travel up for matches home and away from London . I rely on getting tickets from people who have the required points for Rangers , Celtic and Falkirk . Unfortunately this adds to their total and does not increase mine . I currently sit on 111 loyalty points 

 

[Swanny17]

3 minutes ago, bigdav said:

It's over 2 seasons so if you're a season ticket holder and shareholder youre on 60 before you start. Aberdeen away is 5 points. Motherwell St Mirren and kilmarnock 3. You go to all them and you're up high 80s/low 90s easy then start adding in friendlies,cup and European games.

I’m a shareholder but don’t get LP’s for that? 

[Gorgieshed]

2 minutes ago, Swanny17 said:

I’m a shareholder but don’t get LP’s for that? 

You will need to go into the ticket office with your details and get them to add it. I had to do it about a year ago.

[Swanny17]

6 minutes ago, Gorgieshed said:

You will need to go into the ticket office with your details and get them to add it. I had to do it about a year ago.

👍

[bigdav]

14 minutes ago, Swanny17 said:

I’m a shareholder but don’t get LP’s for that? 

Take your certificate in and you get 20 points.

[combo74]

The accruing of LPs has become a bit of a closed shop now, which makes it very difficult for people below the thresholds to accrue enough to secure tickets, particularly with more clubs selling tickets directly - I've been to Dens, Tannadice and Perth multiple times over the last few seasons and not benefitted from any loyalty points; likewise the Stirling cup game earlier this season. Probably at least 15-20 LPs worth in those games, over the last 2 seasons, but you don't benefit from them. 

[scottg71]

19 minutes ago, Gorgieshed said:

You will need to go into the ticket office with your details and get them to add it. I had to do it about a year ago.

Are your shares from the 80s/90s or from Romanov’s share issue just before admin?

[scw98heartsfc]

6 minutes ago, combo74 said:

The accruing of LPs has become a bit of a closed shop now, which makes it very difficult for people below the thresholds to accrue enough to secure tickets, particularly with more clubs selling tickets directly - I've been to Dens, Tannadice and Perth multiple times over the last few seasons and not benefitted from any loyalty points; likewise the Stirling cup game earlier this season. Probably at least 15-20 LPs worth in those games, over the last 2 seasons, but you don't benefit from them. 

Yes, but over the last 2 season you have had the chance to go Motherwell, St Mirren, Aberdeen, Ross county celtic, rangers and Kilmarnock.. then you have European games, friendlies, league cup games and scottish cup games.. people with 122 or more are the folk who go to all these games. They deserve the tickets after watching all the rubbish on offer last season. Just my opinion off course. 

[Jack Torrance]

32 minutes ago, Swanny17 said:

I’m a shareholder but don’t get LP’s for that? 

 

I did it via email. Drop them a line and a photo of your share certificate and they'll add them on.

[bigdav]

1 hour ago, combo74 said:

The accruing of LPs has become a bit of a closed shop now, which makes it very difficult for people below the thresholds to accrue enough to secure tickets, particularly with more clubs selling tickets directly - I've been to Dens, Tannadice and Perth multiple times over the last few seasons and not benefitted from any loyalty points; likewise the Stirling cup game earlier this season. Probably at least 15-20 LPs worth in those games, over the last 2 seasons, but you don't benefit from them. 

Stirling you should have got 3 points,are you thinking of the Hamilton game? No points for that.

[scottg71]

53 minutes ago, Jack Torrance said:

 

I did it via email. Drop them a line and a photo of your share certificate and they'll add them on.

Cheers for that. Just done it and points added. Up to 141 now. 
Can’t believe I never did that before. Missed out on Parkhead and Falkirk by a couple of points. 

[Jack Torrance]

45 minutes ago, scottg71 said:

Cheers for that. Just done it and points added. Up to 141 now. 
Can’t believe I never did that before. Missed out on Parkhead and Falkirk by a couple of points. 

 

Nice one. It means means the threshold will go up now though so I should've kept quiet 

[Serge Pizzorno]

Fairest way to do it by a country mile. The last couple of seasons were fairly easy to get tickets for bigger games, most away games went to a general sale before selling out - those who followed the team during testing times are rewarded first. The amount of tickets we give out as comps is another argument in itself.

[davemclaren]

5 minutes ago, Serge Pizzorno said:

Fairest way to do it by a country mile. The last couple of seasons were fairly easy to get tickets for bigger games, most away games went to a general sale before selling out - those who followed the team during testing times are rewarded first. The amount of tickets we give out as comps is another argument in itself.

How many do we give out as comps?

[whyskey]

3 hours ago, Swanny17 said:

I’m a shareholder but don’t get LP’s for that? 

same here.

[Ex member of the SaS]

Speaking to my son about this the other day. Season ticket but can't get away game tickets to boost points, there has to be a system where loyalty brings benefits, but there should be a way for some to get tickets for the odd games as not everyone can go to every away game due to work or other commitments.

[shauncl]

Could I just ask a question,not trying to be cheeky or rude, but how do folk manage to afford to be a season ticket holder and go to so many away games to be able to accrue so many loyalty points?, I've worked full-time for years and had a season ticket back in the late 90's but never went away as I refused to give my hard earned to opposition team's, had to cut back work hours after health issues last year but even then would still have struggled to afford to spend so much, just interested how folk can afford so much 

[soonbe110]

3 hours ago, combo74 said:

The accruing of LPs has become a bit of a closed shop now, which makes it very difficult for people below the thresholds to accrue enough to secure tickets, particularly with more clubs selling tickets directly - I've been to Dens, Tannadice and Perth multiple times over the last few seasons and not benefitted from any loyalty points; likewise the Stirling cup game earlier this season. Probably at least 15-20 LPs worth in those games, over the last 2 seasons, but you don't benefit from them. 

Yep, but the folk like me who go to virtually every away game would also have hot points for Dens, Tannadice etc so the threshold would have been higher. Same folk would qualify for tickets. 

[PTBCAL]

5 minutes ago, shauncl said:

Could I just ask a question,not trying to be cheeky or rude, but how do folk manage to afford to be a season ticket holder and go to so many away games to be able to accrue so many loyalty points?, I've worked full-time for years and had a season ticket back in the late 90's but never went away as I refused to give my hard earned to opposition team's, had to cut back work hours after health issues last year but even then would still have struggled to afford to spend so much, just interested how folk can afford so much 

Until about a year ago I was buying 3 tickets for all seats games. Now down to 2. Average away game cost about £90- £100 in tickets. Then you have travel.

I have had to cut back on other things - mainly socialising or a bibut fortunately at this stage of my ki

 

[PTBCAL]

Just now, PTBCAL said:

Until about a year ago I was buying 3 tickets for all seats games. Now down to 2. Average away game cost about £90- £100 in tickets. Then you have travel.

I have had to cut back on other things - mainly socialising or a but fortunately at this stage of my life I can mange it. 

 

 

[Gorgieshed]

3 hours ago, scottg71 said:

Are your shares from the 80s/90s or from Romanov’s share issue just before admin?

90s

[cliffdanum]

Think the big problem is the amount of tickets available. We get fewer away tickets now than in previous years, we have cut allocations down to others too, other than hobbits, so fewer people on lower thresholds can gain points. Unless more tickets available and initial thresholds drop, thresholds will remain high and tickets scarce.

[SecN]

1 hour ago, davemclaren said:

How many do we give out as comps?

I’ve seen that often the tickets are not given out complimentary but have been reserved at the ticket office on your  behalf, payment still required.  Whether this is friends and family, sponsors, others affiliated to the club I do not know. 

[Bungalow Bill]

I think the club have lost control over the LPs for shareholders. Pre-Romanov shareholders got 10pts per season when the loyalty point system was introduced, I think was because back in the day first priority for tickets were shareholders and season ticket holders - one of the older guys can correct me here. 
 

When we all chipped in and bought shares to save the club, I’m sure one of the perks was you got LPs for 3 years. 
 

It now seems that every shareholder is entitled to LPs, which is fair enough but the club need to do something re. communication because folk are missing out here which isn’t fair. 
 

For info, I bought my shares the day Romanov arrived on the scene as I had a feeling he’d be buying them all up. 

[Jambof3tornado]

4 hours ago, swindonjambo1 said:

It's difficult to reach the thresholds now . Im a season ticket holder and travel up for matches home and away from London . I rely on getting tickets from people who have the required points for Rangers , Celtic and Falkirk . Unfortunately this adds to their total and does not increase mine . I currently sit on 111 loyalty points 

 

And therein lies the problem. People farming points without attending.

[JMuir94]

Only people who will get tickets for this game is people who have bought shares decades ago and still being rewarded. Ridiculous. 2 ST with 107 and 117 and still missing out 

[hughesie27]

Say it everytime it comes up. The shareholders LPs need binned.

[Bungalow Bill]

1 hour ago, shauncl said:

Could I just ask a question,not trying to be cheeky or rude, but how do folk manage to afford to be a season ticket holder and go to so many away games to be able to accrue so many loyalty points?, I've worked full-time for years and had a season ticket back in the late 90's but never went away as I refused to give my hard earned to opposition team's, had to cut back work hours after health issues last year but even then would still have struggled to afford to spend so much, just interested how folk can afford so much 

Will depend on each persons income and outgoings I guess. 

[Hearts of Vladland]

Something weird is going on with the LPs, I had enough points for Ibrox in September, the only two games I haven’t been able to get a ticket through my account on were Celtic and Falkirk, I managed to get a ticket through someone for Celtic. The Celtic and Falkirk allocations are smaller than the Ibrox allocation, unless something has changed? So how have I been bumped out been able to getting a ticket? No one below me should have been able to gain any points on me, giving I haven’t missed any games I was eligible for.

[Bungalow Bill]

1 minute ago, hughesie27 said:

Say it everytime it comes up. The shareholders LPs need binned.

I think it’s at that stage now, and I’ve benefited from it. 

[hughesie27]

2 minutes ago, Bungalow Bill said:

I think the club have lost control over the LPs for shareholders. Pre-Romanov shareholders got 10pts per season when the loyalty point system was introduced, I think was because back in the day first priority for tickets were shareholders and season ticket holders - one of the older guys can correct me here. 
 

When we all chipped in and bought shares to save the club, I’m sure one of the perks was you got LPs for 3 years. 
 

It now seems that every shareholder is entitled to LPs, which is fair enough but the club need to do something re. communication because folk are missing out here which isn’t fair. 
 

For info, I bought my shares the day Romanov arrived on the scene as I had a feeling he’d be buying them all up. 

I think it is still limited to anyone who had original 90s shares that never sold to Romanov. 

[Jambof3tornado]

1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Speaking to my son about this the other day. Season ticket but can't get away game tickets to boost points, there has to be a system where loyalty brings benefits, but there should be a way for some to get tickets for the odd games as not everyone can go to every away game due to work or other commitments.

Ballot systems used at other clubs......get tickets for say ibrox you don't get to be in the ballot for the next away ticketed match.

[Bungalow Bill]

Just now, hughesie27 said:

I think it is still limited to anyone who had original 90s shares that never sold to Romanov. 

It’s not. I know people with later shares who got the LPs added to their account. As I said, I think the club have lost control here and need to review the rules. 

[Dougie Masterton]

5 minutes ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

Something weird is going on with the LPs, I had enough points for Ibrox in September, the only two games I haven’t been able to get a ticket through my account on were Celtic and Falkirk, I managed to get a ticket through someone for Celtic. The Celtic and Falkirk allocations are smaller than the Ibrox allocation, unless something has changed? So how have I been bumped out been able to getting a ticket? No one below me should have been able to gain any points on me, giving I haven’t missed any games I was eligible for.

I think Rangers have cut our allocation to somewhere are 750. 

Edited February 5 by Dougie Masterton

[hughesie27]

I think the LP system is very fair but because demand is so high now it has resulted in people, understandably might I add, buying tickets they know they have no intention of attending and knowing theyll have a mate or even a random on Facebook who will buy it from them. It keeps them in the loop for the games they want to attend and prevents those on the periphery of point thresholds from moving up the chain. 

 

It's inevitable but I think everyone would agree it's breaking the system. Needs something a bit more advanced.

[The Treasurer]

4 hours ago, combo74 said:

The accruing of LPs has become a bit of a closed shop now, which makes it very difficult for people below the thresholds to accrue enough to secure tickets, particularly with more clubs selling tickets directly - I've been to Dens, Tannadice and Perth multiple times over the last few seasons and not benefitted from any loyalty points; likewise the Stirling cup game earlier this season. Probably at least 15-20 LPs worth in those games, over the last 2 seasons, but you don't benefit from them. 

No one gets LPs for these games, so no one loses out and no one benefits 

[Hearts of Vladland]

4 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Say it everytime it comes up. The shareholders LPs need binned.

100%, only folk 40+ have ever really had the option of being able to be a shareholder. I’ve put thousands into Foundation of Hearts yet don’t get rewarded.

[Hearts of Vladland]

4 minutes ago, Dougie Masterton said:

I think Rangers have cut our allocation to somewhere are 750. 

Fair enough, makes sense if it was less than September.

[whyskey]

12 minutes ago, Bungalow Bill said:

I think the club have lost control over the LPs for shareholders. Pre-Romanov shareholders got 10pts per season when the loyalty point system was introduced, I think was because back in the day first priority for tickets were shareholders and season ticket holders - one of the older guys can correct me here. 
 

When we all chipped in and bought shares to save the club, I’m sure one of the perks was you got LPs for 3 years. 
 

It now seems that every shareholder is entitled to LPs, which is fair enough but the club need to do something re. communication because folk are missing out here which isn’t fair. 
 

For info, I bought my shares the day Romanov arrived on the scene as I had a feeling he’d be buying them all up. 

my shares were pre romanove and when I asked at the ticket office after the last time that this was brought up, I was told that points would not be giving anymore toshareholders.

[hughesie27]

2 minutes ago, whyskey said:

my shares were pre romanove and when I asked at the ticket office after the last time that this was brought up, I was told that points would not be giving anymore toshareholders.

No idea when you last asked but I know people who were able to get Hibs tickets at Xmas because they had their share points added.

[Hertz21]

Let’s be real the only reason the system is becoming an issue is because people never went to away games when we were bang average and now they want to go.

Edited February 5 by Hertz21

[hughesie27]

2 minutes ago, Hertz21 said:

Let’s be real the only reason the system is becoming an issue is because people never went to away games when we were bang average and now they want to go.

...and as a result people resort to gaming thr system. Yes, you are spot on.

 

 

[Hertz21]

4 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

...and as a result people resort to gaming thr system. Yes, you are spot on.

 

 

The old firm do ballets if I’m correct but I don’t think there is enough demand for this for us to utilize.

[Hertz21]

5 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

...and as a result people resort to gaming thr system. Yes, you are spot on.

 

 

Yeah I won’t lie if I’m not going and someone I know wants to they can use my account. It’s a tricky one because if I don’t do it someone else will unfortunately 

[joondalupjambo]

13 minutes ago, Hertz21 said:

Let’s be real the only reason the system is becoming an issue is because people never went to away games when we were bang average and now they want to go.

True to an extent but back in the day as away fans we got given a lot more space and/or seats in a ground so there was plenty room. Now, yes we are doing ok but away ground space is much more limited so far less tickets.