RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 9 minutes ago, boag1874 said: I get your point & maybe misread you a bit with the quote. You are right that it'll be incremental improvements but their increase in spending came from their increase in income & they started with a lower budget than what we currently have so we're potentially further along than they were in year 2. If we do sell Braga plus a couple of others for substantial fees then we'll have a significantly higher budget to play with. I'm not expecting 10x the money we spent this season & matching the spend of the OF or anything but you can see USG regularly more than doubled their transfer spending from the previous season in the first few years once they started to make the money from sales. I don't think that means we'll see overhauls across the whole team because tbh it isn't urgently required - it just needs additional quality for now. Shanks, Halks, Schwolow, Findlay, Milne will all likely continue to make up the core of the team (and Magnusson might be in that group too) & that's a very good core as it is. I think the RB, CM & RW positions will have money spent on them though as well as striker depth & that'll bring massive upgrades if spent wisely. We need the sales to make it happen though. I think we will, tbh. There’s a whole load of players McInnes doesn’t want at the club, (Hoff, Borch etc.) and the “squad players” will be completely overhauled. The likes of McPake and potentially Tait(s) coming in and back from Livi for a start. I expect our squad fillers to be largely home grown, as that’s what McInnes likes, and he knows he can trust them. We’ll probably see a few enigmas and unknowns competing for starting places. We’re gonna lose Gordon, Clark, Neilson, Forrest, Kent, Leonard, Beni and Devlin. Without going too ”Farage” that’s a lot of home grown and British assets to lose. That’ll have an impact on the culture. They’ll need replaced. When you factor in sales, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Schwolow go back to Germany with a full season under his belt to a high end Bundesliga 2 team, Braga will have interest, as will a few others. We aren’t too far away from the realms of a 25/30 player turnover here. Edited April 8 by RustyRightPeg
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Easier said than done to find home grown players from our academy, don’t think we will have any this summer meaning four guys miss out. That’s going to be an issue I feel. If Wilson doesn’t come back and Gordon retires who do we have? Forrester and Tait? Means we’re going to be restricted in how many non Scottish trained players we’ll have and may have to have places taken by inexperienced laddies while senior players miss out. Pretty sure it happens a couple of seasons ago where Naismith left out Musa despite him talking about Europe being a big reason he signed. 57 minutes ago, CMc said: You don’t think 6-8 minimum in and out counts as an overhaul? thats got to be 30% of the main squad. Two cbs, one of each fullback, two or three midfielders, two strikers, a winger on top of McPake is what I think we’ll see. Two expensive goalies going, three expensive midfielders yet to renew, two cbs likely out, two forwards likely out, one winger likely away. Plus Borg, McCart, Spittal, Dhanda who will go if we can sell them. Thats up to 14 players leaving before any shock ones. I don’t think 6-8 in a summer is a major overhaul no. That’s pretty bog standard for most teams I’d say. Especially in Scotland as we deal a lot more in loans up here I feel. (Not us but other teams) I don’t think we will be overhauling Schwolow in goal, the two CB’s, Milne at LB, Ageu or McEntee in midfield or Shankland up top. We might sell Braga and need to overhaul him but I have my doubts over Kyzi leaving this window. So what we’re overhauling is fringe or outcast players. Question is do we replace them with not just better than who’s leaving (I think we will), will we replace them with players that will keep the likes of Schwolow, Halkett, Findlay, McEntee, Milne, Shankland and Kyzi out of the team? I don’t think we will. 46 minutes ago, boag1874 said: I get your point & maybe misread you a bit with the quote. You are right that it'll be incremental improvements but their increase in spending came from their increase in income & they started with a lower budget than what we currently have so we're potentially further along than they were in year 2. If we do sell Braga plus a couple of others for substantial fees then we'll have a significantly higher budget to play with. I'm not expecting 10x the money we spent this season & matching the spend of the OF or anything but you can see USG regularly more than doubled their transfer spending from the previous season in the first few years once they started to make the money from sales. I don't think that means we'll see overhauls across the whole team because tbh it isn't urgently required - it just needs additional quality for now. Shanks, Halks, Schwolow, Findlay, Milne will all likely continue to make up the core of the team (and Magnusson might be in that group too) & that's a very good core as it is. I think the RB, CM & RW positions will have money spent on them though as well as striker depth & that'll bring massive upgrades if spent wisely. We need the sales to make it happen though. Pretty much all I agree with. And yes that’s what I’m meaning. I think the core of the team will still be the same and we might see some players on the fringes on high wages leave for younger (hate to say project) players with potential replace them on much lower wages. I don’t expect significant improvement in overall first XI though. And I also don’t think Braga if he does go will go for the sorts of numbers people are speculating either unfortunately.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 8 Posted April 8 35 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I think we will, tbh. There’s a whole load of players McInnes doesn’t want at the club, (Hoff, Borch etc.) and the “squad players” will be completely overhauled. The likes of McPake and potentially Tait(s) coming in and back from Livi for a start. I expect our squad fillers to be largely home grown, as that’s what McInnes likes, and he knows he can trust them. We’ll probably see a few enigmas and unknowns competing for starting places. We’re gonna lose Gordon, Clark, Neilson, Forrest, Kent, Leonard, Beni and Devlin. Without going too ”Farage” that’s a lot of home grown and British assets to lose. That’ll have an impact on the culture. They’ll need replaced. When you factor in sales, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Schwolow go back to Germany with a full season under his belt to a high end Bundesliga 2 team, Braga will have interest, as will a few others. We aren’t too far away from the realms of a 25/30 player turnover here. There is certainly a great deal of overhaul this summer. Will be fascinating to see who all goes. I also think we will see a big number of youngsters moved on this summer as the club is no longer going to have a B team, and fringe youngsters moved (Dom Plank for example is already being look at by Scottish Championship and league one sides as his contract is up in the summer.) We expected a huge movement of players out last summer but only 3 first team players eft permanently (not counting players leaving at the end of their contracts.) It was clear from then on that we are just running down the clock on players contracts. It wouldn't surprise me if on top of McPake there are not 2 or 3 players already signed on pre-contracts or very close to signing at the moment.
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 57 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I have a feeling Pollock is gonna play a part for us. McInnes likes him but yeah, there’s a shit load of deadwood/out of contract/sellable players that’ll go. It’s long overdue for some, and exciting. Are Kartum and Vargas still technically on the books? 22 out?
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, CMc said: Are Kartum and Vargas still technically on the books? 22 out? Them too. Vargas until 2029 I think.
spacerjoe Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, CM Funk said: Scottish Premiership currently. Beyond Forrest or McPake but as yet we don’t know how he’ll compete in Europe or a higher level. But do we honestly think this summer we’re signing a whole bunch of Braga’s? So level 5 compared to Forrest as a level 2? And what level did you think Braga was when you heard we'd signed him?
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 minute ago, spacerjoe said: So level 5 compared to Forrest as a level 2? And what level did you think Braga was when you heard we'd signed him? Didn’t have any opinion of him as I hadn’t heard of him. Had an opinion on Findlay as I’d heard of him like with McPake and potentially Tait though. But our last two windows have had one Braga. They’ve not been full of Braga’s. So it’s a pretty safe bet to say we’ll be lucky if we get one or two in the summer that have Braga’s impact. But I think you’re getting away from the original point. I have no idea who we will sign and likelihood is when their names crop up I’ll never have heard of them which is good because I like to live in hope than be dampened by existing expectations. All I’m saying is I don’t see our first XI getting a significant increase in quality over the summer window. I see an increase, just not a significant one. I’m not here to piss on anyone’s chips. I’ve not said anything controversial in fact it’s a conservative opinion. But that’s all it is, an opinion. I’m not saying the window WILL be like that. I’m saying that’s how I think it will play out based on what little info I have to draw on. I want for a window where we blow the doors off expectations and rack our levels up just as the next fan. Doesn’t mean I think that’s what will actually happen though. And it’s okay to not expect much and it’s not insulting to the club to think so either, in case it’s coming across that way for some reason.
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 13 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Them too. Vargas until 2029 I think. Gordon and Clarke will be on very good money. One would assume Kent is on good money. Devlin and Beni will be out upper end one would think. Others might be on less, but if we assume £2k per week per player, we could be looking at £35-40k off the wage bill. If we take £2m off the wage bill for the year and take in £8-10m in transfer money, plus prize money, I think we could be doing a lot of business. Other JTA teams seem happy to spend 1/3 to 1/2 the transfer money in on new signings. We were a higher ratio than that last season (about even IIRC). Five £2m players on £8k could be cost neutral. That would have a massive impact.
spacerjoe Posted April 8 Posted April 8 7 minutes ago, CM Funk said: Didn’t have any opinion of him as I hadn’t heard of him. Had an opinion on Findlay as I’d heard of him like with McPake and potentially Tait though. But our last two windows have had one Braga. They’ve not been full of Braga’s. So it’s a pretty safe bet to say we’ll be lucky if we get one or two in the summer that have Braga’s impact. But I think you’re getting away from the original point. I have no idea who we will sign and likelihood is when their names crop up I’ll never have heard of them which is good because I like to live in hope than be dampened by existing expectations. All I’m saying is I don’t see our first XI getting a significant increase in quality over the summer window. I see an increase, just not a significant one. I’m not here to piss on anyone’s chips. I’ve not said anything controversial in fact it’s a conservative opinion. But that’s all it is, an opinion. I’m not saying the window WILL be like that. I’m saying that’s how I think it will play out based on what little info I have to draw on. I want for a window where we blow the doors off expectations and rack our levels up just as the next fan. Doesn’t mean I think that’s what will actually happen though. And it’s okay to not expect much and it’s not insulting to the club to think so either, in case it’s coming across that way for some reason. It will never happen like that as you will never have heard of anyone that we sign, a couple of James McPakes aside. And it doesn't take that much to significantly increase the quality of first 11. Braga, Milne and Kyz added to a team that were in a relegation battle for half of last season have taken us top with 6 games to go. Other signings have played a part, but really it's just these 3. And the expectation is not that we'll sell all for a massive profit: we just need a couple each year to work out so that we can take that profit and reinvest in another group a level up. We can afford to speculate more wildly as we're finding talent for so much cheaper with JTA. I'd say we've already done that with Altena. And of course, we were massively unlucky with Ageu, who by all accounts (on paper at least) should have been our best signing.
MR INCREDIBLE Posted April 8 Posted April 8 I hope the JTA super computer can find midfielders that can beat a man, shoot, header and move in a forward direction! At the moment we have midfielders that can tackle but absolutely nothing else.
Taffin Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 hours ago, Famous 1874 said: I'd be offering Braga a new contract. Would really hate to lose him. Weaknesses persist at centre back, right back and centre mid especially. Agreed. He's been an absolute gem. The idea of seeing more of Kabore or similar dross they find is depressing
wcjambo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Anyone know what Dundee want for Luke Graham, think he's superb and if we can get him i'd be going for it
Pingu Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 minutes ago, wcjambo said: Anyone know what Dundee want for Luke Graham, think he's superb and if we can get him i'd be going for it He's very good, but supposedly both the uglies sniffing around so doubt we'd get him. Rangers favourites.
wcjambo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 minutes ago, Pingu said: He's very good, but supposedly both the uglies sniffing around so doubt we'd get him. Rangers favourites. Worth a look in, if we win the league/get second we can offer him europe. takes one look at just about any scottish players going to celtic or rangers, very rarely works out and surely players are savvy to that.
Hertz21 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, wcjambo said: Anyone know what Dundee want for Luke Graham, think he's superb and if we can get him i'd be going for it I think your talking 7 figures
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 15 minutes ago, Taffin said: Agreed. He's been an absolute gem. The idea of seeing more of Kabore or similar dross they find is depressing The same system that literally found Braga, being described as finding dross.
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wcjambo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, Hertz21 said: I think your talking 7 figures Easily, but I think he's worth it. I've said before that Graham and Barney Stewart are my top targets for the summer right now. Both young, Scottish guys who understand the club. Luke Graham I'd honestly be comfortable breaking our record for.
Hertz21 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 9 minutes ago, wcjambo said: Easily, but I think he's worth it. I've said before that Graham and Barney Stewart are my top targets for the summer right now. Both young, Scottish guys who understand the club. Luke Graham I'd honestly be comfortable breaking our record for. Yeah I would be very happy with Graham, not 23 until next February next year too so there is so much room to have him for a year or 2 and make a killing on him.
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 38 minutes ago, spacerjoe said: It will never happen like that as you will never have heard of anyone that we sign, a couple of James McPakes aside. And it doesn't take that much to significantly increase the quality of first 11. Braga, Milne and Kyz added to a team that were in a relegation battle for half of last season have taken us top with 6 games to go. Other signings have played a part, but really it's just these 3. And the expectation is not that we'll sell all for a massive profit: we just need a couple each year to work out so that we can take that profit and reinvest in another group a level up. We can afford to speculate more wildly as we're finding talent for so much cheaper with JTA. I'd say we've already done that with Altena. And of course, we were massively unlucky with Ageu, who by all accounts (on paper at least) should have been our best signing. But your point does show that money doesn’t necessarily equate success. Braga’s outlay does. But Kyzi was free. Then our two most expensive players - not just this season but of all time - have for whatever reason not had the chance to be a success yet. So although in theory the higher turnover in profit and then spending should be an improvement, who’s to say it will work out that way. But we’re all hoping every window for significant improvement and to get better. And we all hope every signing is a success. I guess I’m just a tad more tentative in believing big things will happen this summer. We’ll know one way or another come January I suppose.
Taffin Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 43 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: The same system that literally found Braga, being described as finding dross. Yeh I know. Levein found some good stuff too. Vlad also. Throw the dart enough and ones bound to be a bullseye eventually. JA reduces the dart throwing. I get it. I'm also okay with recognising that there will be dross in amongst it, same as with their other teams too. It's okay, they won't be upset I'm sure. Edited April 8 by Taffin
Jamboross Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Yeh I know. Levein found some good stuff too. Vlad also. Throw the dart enough and ones bound to be a bullseye eventually. JA reduces the dart throwing. I get it. I'm also okay with recognising that there will be dross in amongst it, same as with their other teams too. It's okay, they won't be upset I'm sure. There will be some signings that don't work, for sure, we've seen it already but they should be in the minority. I wouldn't even say Kabore is dross, he's just being utilised incorrectly. To flip your original post on its head, the idea of seeing gems similar to Braga is quite exciting!
Taffin Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Jamboross said: There will be some signings that don't work, for sure, we've seen it already but they should be in the minority. I wouldn't even say Kabore is dross, he's just being utilised incorrectly. To flip your original post on its head, the idea of seeing gems similar to Braga is quite exciting! Absolutely is exciting. As would be gems similar to Shankland and Devlin or of times gone by like Skacel (took that too far. There won't be another Skacel).
Pasquale for King Posted April 8 Posted April 8 5 hours ago, CM Funk said: That’s going to be an issue I feel. If Wilson doesn’t come back and Gordon retires who do we have? Forrester and Tait? Means we’re going to be restricted in how many non Scottish trained players we’ll have and may have to have places taken by inexperienced laddies while senior players miss out. Pretty sure it happens a couple of seasons ago where Naismith left out Musa despite him talking about Europe being a big reason he signed. I don’t think 6-8 in a summer is a major overhaul no. That’s pretty bog standard for most teams I’d say. Especially in Scotland as we deal a lot more in loans up here I feel. (Not us but other teams) I don’t think we will be overhauling Schwolow in goal, the two CB’s, Milne at LB, Ageu or McEntee in midfield or Shankland up top. We might sell Braga and need to overhaul him but I have my doubts over Kyzi leaving this window. So what we’re overhauling is fringe or outcast players. Question is do we replace them with not just better than who’s leaving (I think we will), will we replace them with players that will keep the likes of Schwolow, Halkett, Findlay, McEntee, Milne, Shankland and Kyzi out of the team? I don’t think we will. Pretty much all I agree with. And yes that’s what I’m meaning. I think the core of the team will still be the same and we might see some players on the fringes on high wages leave for younger (hate to say project) players with potential replace them on much lower wages. I don’t expect significant improvement in overall first XI though. And I also don’t think Braga if he does go will go for the sorts of numbers people are speculating either unfortunately. Definitely an issue for us moving forward.
Pingu Posted April 8 Posted April 8 7 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Easier said than done to find home grown players from our academy, don’t think we will have any this summer meaning four guys miss out. Yeah, we'll struggle for four club trained players. Best case some subset of: Third choice keeper for Europe (Gordon, Stone or McFarlane) Pollock Tait Forrester ...but I don't think they'll all be at the club. It doesn't help us fill the club trained places if under 21s emerge, because youngsters don't count towards the quota, as long as they meet the List B criteria: UEFA List B allows clubs to register an unlimited number of young, homegrown players to the squad. Players must be 16-21 years old with at least two years uninterrupted at the club to qualify. I don't think Tait is List B eligible due to the two year rule, but I'm not sure. Whereas I think James Wilson would possibly qualify for List B if he came back? Not much we can do about it, other than sign Andy Irving!
Jamboross Posted April 8 Posted April 8 30 minutes ago, Pingu said: Yeah, we'll struggle for four club trained players. Best case some subset of: Third choice keeper for Europe (Gordon, Stone or McFarlane) Pollock Tait Forrester ...but I don't think they'll all be at the club. It doesn't help us fill the club trained places if under 21s emerge, because youngsters don't count towards the quota, as long as they meet the List B criteria: UEFA List B allows clubs to register an unlimited number of young, homegrown players to the squad. Players must be 16-21 years old with at least two years uninterrupted at the club to qualify. I don't think Tait is List B eligible due to the two year rule, but I'm not sure. Whereas I think James Wilson would possibly qualify for List B if he came back? Not much we can do about it, other than sign Andy Irving! It shouldn't really be a massive issue for us. Even if we can effectively only name a 21 man squad that still covers everybody who's played more than 10 games for us this season with the exception of Wilson who as you say may still qualify for the B list if he's here. The only players missing out would be those highly unlikely to feature anyway.
Hertz21 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Said it before but I could see Ryan Oné getting flagged by JTA.
tiger Rudi Posted April 8 Posted April 8 5 hours ago, OTT said: This really reads like a wink and a nudge for us to make a bid IMO I'd love us to go out and get him. JTA will surely be all over a guy like him. I've a funny feeling his name is going to come up a lot in the run in. Everything i've read lately appears to suggest he's going to bust a gut for his old man 😄 Just hope he gets a 24hr bug before they play us.
Horatio Caine Posted April 8 Posted April 8 6 hours ago, Hertz21 said: Yeah I would be very happy with Graham, not 23 until next February next year too so there is so much room to have him for a year or 2 and make a killing on him. Graham is apparently very keen on a move to Rangers. When will these guys learn that it may not be their best move to go to the OF.
Pasquale for King Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Pingu said: Yeah, we'll struggle for four club trained players. Best case some subset of: Third choice keeper for Europe (Gordon, Stone or McFarlane) Pollock Tait Forrester ...but I don't think they'll all be at the club. It doesn't help us fill the club trained places if under 21s emerge, because youngsters don't count towards the quota, as long as they meet the List B criteria: UEFA List B allows clubs to register an unlimited number of young, homegrown players to the squad. Players must be 16-21 years old with at least two years uninterrupted at the club to qualify. I don't think Tait is List B eligible due to the two year rule, but I'm not sure. Whereas I think James Wilson would possibly qualify for List B if he came back? Not much we can do about it, other than sign Andy Irving! Absolutely, Hickey or Doig on loan 😜, there’s a few out there but not many on our radar I wouldn’t think.
OTT Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Horatio Caine said: Graham is apparently very keen on a move to Rangers. When will these guys learn that it may not be their best move to go to the OF. Was going to say, given the role he plays (CB) he's not going to play at Rangers. He's too young, and it will absolutely stall his development. Look at Leon King who is one they brought through, very talented and hasn't had a lick of game time, now being given loan moves well below the level he should be playing at. Whereas if he was at a Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen, very good chance he'd be a key player being developed like Souttar was. They cannot afford a young CB learning as he goes. But by the looks of things, his agency is tiny and he's the biggest client on their books. I don't think they'll have the experience to manage him properly, and I'd question if this is their biggest pay day, will they put their clients career ahead of that, or just look for the immediate cash in the bank that Rangers will almost certainly provide?
OTT Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, tiger Rudi said: I'd love us to go out and get him. JTA will surely be all over a guy like him. I've a funny feeling his name is going to come up a lot in the run in. Everything i've read lately appears to suggest he's going to bust a gut for his old man 😄 Just hope he gets a 24hr bug before they play us. Yeah, he's getting a bucket loan of press though which won't be a good thing from the POV of getting value for money. Would be interesting to see what would happen if we made a bid and the laddie wanted it to happen.
soonbe110 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Jamboross said: It shouldn't really be a massive issue for us. Even if we can effectively only name a 21 man squad that still covers everybody who's played more than 10 games for us this season with the exception of Wilson who as you say may still qualify for the B list if he's here. The only players missing out would be those highly unlikely to feature anyway. Exactly, it’s a non-issue.
I P Knightley Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 07/04/2026 at 17:27, Clerry Jambo said: Falkirk fan at the work- Tait would be no great loss I think your Bairn fan is bluffing. He doesn't have his dinner on the pulse of the Bairns support. They're (by and large) desperate for Tait to sign a new contract. However, if he were to come to Tynecastle, he'd make a good replacement should Cammy move on. I've seen his name connected with QPR but absolutely nothing reliable to back that up. 8 hours ago, wcjambo said: Anyone know what Dundee want for Luke Graham, think he's superb and if we can get him i'd be going for it I saw chat that, in January, they were knocking back seven figure bids. Talk is that he'll head south, in which case we'd have to come up with a massive bid and a £10k pw wage to turn his head. Similar with Barney Stewart. If he leaves Falkirk, it will be over a million transfer fee and a five figure weekly wage. If we're to look for young Scottish talent, it may be worth having a look at Dunfermline or Thistle - especially if those clubs stay in the championship.
Jocam2325 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 8 hours ago, Horatio Caine said: Graham is apparently very keen on a move to Rangers. When will these guys learn that it may not be their best move to go to the OF. About the same time they stop getting paid 2 or 3 times the money anyone else in Scotland can give them.
Tommy Brown Posted April 9 Posted April 9 8 hours ago, I P Knightley said: I think your Bairn fan is bluffing. He doesn't have his dinner on the pulse of the Bairns support. They're (by and large) desperate for Tait to sign a new contract. However, if he were to come to Tynecastle, he'd make a good replacement should Cammy move on. I've seen his name connected with QPR but absolutely nothing reliable to back that up. I saw chat that, in January, they were knocking back seven figure bids. Talk is that he'll head south, in which case we'd have to come up with a massive bid and a £10k pw wage to turn his head. Similar with Barney Stewart. If he leaves Falkirk, it will be over a million transfer fee and a five figure weekly wage. If we're to look for young Scottish talent, it may be worth having a look at Dunfermline or Thistle - especially if those clubs stay in the championship. Tait is at Livi , not Falkirk.
johnking123 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 For trained players. Cooperation loan Agreements would allow us to call on youth players for Europe the send them back to club they are on loan to.
cosanostra Posted April 9 Posted April 9 34 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: Tait is at Livi , not Falkirk. He's talking about Dylan Tait i think. Another poster who claims he's ITK mentioned that we're interstate in signing him.
wcjambo Posted April 9 Posted April 9 9 hours ago, I P Knightley said: I think your Bairn fan is bluffing. He doesn't have his dinner on the pulse of the Bairns support. They're (by and large) desperate for Tait to sign a new contract. However, if he were to come to Tynecastle, he'd make a good replacement should Cammy move on. I've seen his name connected with QPR but absolutely nothing reliable to back that up. I saw chat that, in January, they were knocking back seven figure bids. Talk is that he'll head south, in which case we'd have to come up with a massive bid and a £10k pw wage to turn his head. Similar with Barney Stewart. If he leaves Falkirk, it will be over a million transfer fee and a five figure weekly wage. If we're to look for young Scottish talent, it may be worth having a look at Dunfermline or Thistle - especially if those clubs stay in the championship. Big fees and big wages, but that might be what we need to start getting up to those next levels. Luke graham for instance, easily will be able to sell on for more. young, left footed cb who helps with uefa for us and i think is better than findlay (from what i've seen). i've spoke abt barney before but because of his age, build, height and natural finishing ability i think he would be a great signing as you can mould him any way you want. and he's a good jambo
wcjambo Posted April 9 Posted April 9 9 hours ago, OTT said: Was going to say, given the role he plays (CB) he's not going to play at Rangers. He's too young, and it will absolutely stall his development. Look at Leon King who is one they brought through, very talented and hasn't had a lick of game time, now being given loan moves well below the level he should be playing at. Whereas if he was at a Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen, very good chance he'd be a key player being developed like Souttar was. They cannot afford a young CB learning as he goes. But by the looks of things, his agency is tiny and he's the biggest client on their books. I don't think they'll have the experience to manage him properly, and I'd question if this is their biggest pay day, will they put their clients career ahead of that, or just look for the immediate cash in the bank that Rangers will almost certainly provide? If we can't get him then it is what it is, but I would think with us challenging this season and us having an attractive project etc there would be more reason to join us now. Yes you may get less wages but you'll be playing far more, and you have arguably a better platform to showcase your talents as people will have their eyes specifically on us due to JTA. Beforehand there wasn't really another competitor for the league or UCL, and this season might be enough to just turn some of these young scottish guys heads.
I P Knightley Posted April 9 Posted April 9 7 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Tait is at Livi , not Falkirk. 6 hours ago, cosanostra said: He's talking about Dylan Tait i think. Another poster who claims he's ITK mentioned that we're interstate in signing him. Aye! I thought the conversation had been about Dylan Tait being practically in the door. Macaulay Tait's still one of ours, isn't he? Always difficult to tell in a set up like Livi this season whether any individual's showing much promise. I think I'm right in saying that Dylan Tait has started every Falkirk league game going and that the Bairns supporters are clamouring for him to sign a new contract.
OldCastleRock1874 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 18 hours ago, I P Knightley said: I think your Bairn fan is bluffing. He doesn't have his dinner on the pulse of the Bairns support. They're (by and large) desperate for Tait to sign a new contract. However, if he were to come to Tynecastle, he'd make a good replacement should Cammy move on. I've seen his name connected with QPR but absolutely nothing reliable to back that up. I saw chat that, in January, they were knocking back seven figure bids. Talk is that he'll head south, in which case we'd have to come up with a massive bid and a £10k pw wage to turn his head. Similar with Barney Stewart. If he leaves Falkirk, it will be over a million transfer fee and a five figure weekly wage. If we're to look for young Scottish talent, it may be worth having a look at Dunfermline or Thistle - especially if those clubs stay in the championship. The good news for us moving forward is that JTA will have them (young scottish talent)identified much earlier in their careers. That's dependant of course on how we use JTA. We should have a default set to scan the scottish leagues continually, without any particular 'filter'. Just flag the guys showing promise to make it at at the top of the tier and/or above
davie1980 Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 On 08/04/2026 at 14:01, wcjambo said: Anyone know what Dundee want for Luke Graham, think he's superb and if we can get him i'd be going for it Seen him linked with both sides of the OF Don't think we'll be looking at him
tiger Rudi Posted April 9 Posted April 9 11 minutes ago, OldCastleRock1874 said: The good news for us moving forward is that JTA will have them (young scottish talent)identified much earlier in their careers. That's dependant of course on how we use JTA. We should have a default set to scan the scottish leagues continually, without any particular 'filter'. Just flag the guys showing promise to make it at at the top of the tier and/or above You have a point there. Not sure Stewart, Graham or Tait will represent value with JTA. All 3 have already got clubs interested, all 3 will command a decent fee. I hope we are prepared to bring guys like them in though. I suspect, as it was with Mulligan last season, we might overlook them and unearth others that have not made the breakthrough yet. I guess we have to trust the system but it will be annoying if we lose out on those type of players.
Gundermann Posted April 9 Posted April 9 On 08/04/2026 at 14:46, OTT said: This really reads like a wink and a nudge for us to make a bid IMO
GinRummy Posted April 9 Posted April 9 50 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: You have a point there. Not sure Stewart, Graham or Tait will represent value with JTA. All 3 have already got clubs interested, all 3 will command a decent fee. I hope we are prepared to bring guys like them in though. I suspect, as it was with Mulligan last season, we might overlook them and unearth others that have not made the breakthrough yet. I guess we have to trust the system but it will be annoying if we lose out on those type of players. Are Milne and McPake not those types of players?
kingantti1874 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 57 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: You have a point there. Not sure Stewart, Graham or Tait will represent value with JTA. All 3 have already got clubs interested, all 3 will command a decent fee. I hope we are prepared to bring guys like them in though. I suspect, as it was with Mulligan last season, we might overlook them and unearth others that have not made the breakthrough yet. I guess we have to trust the system but it will be annoying if we lose out on those type of players. we overlooked Mulligan on account of his agent.
tiger Rudi Posted April 9 Posted April 9 11 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Are Milne and McPake not those types of players? McPake certainly is. Good point. I don't think many clubs were after Milne but I could be wrong. He wouldn't have been commanding the kind of fee it would take for Graham though.
tiger Rudi Posted April 9 Posted April 9 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: we overlooked Mulligan on account of his agent. True
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